of his library.
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I agree. Just make sure that when it comes out it's stored in the Fiction
section of the library. :-)
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Enlightenment
A collection of Fleet's published FFL writings here about
A collection of Fleet's published FFL writings here about enlightenment would
make a really fine anthology on the subject. -Buck in the Dome
turquoiseb wrote :
Fine. If that's how low your standards are, then *you* can be envious of him.
Since I've met canines who were more enlightened
I agree. Just make sure that when it comes out it's stored in the Fiction
section of the library. :-)
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A collection of Fleet's published FFL writings here about enlightenment would
make a really fine anthology on the subject. -Buck in the Dome
turquoiseb wrote :
Fine. If that's how low your standards
?
**/
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*A collection of Fleet's published FFL writings here about enlightenment would
make
Sorry but there ain't no stinkun Litemint.
Them hindoos stole it from Buddhists and it's worth about that much.
Not before, during or after a human lifetime is there Litemint.
We are not born with it. Anything born will perish and therefore is just
another blow job.
Such a Litemint is just
On 11/21/2014 7:54 PM, emptybill wrote:
Sorry but there ain't no stinkun Litemint.
Them hindoos stole it from Buddhists and it's worth about that much.
Not before, during or after a human lifetime is there Litemint.
We are not born with it. Anything born will perish and therefore is
just
Fine. If that's how low your standards are, then *you* can be envious of him.
Since I've met canines who were more enlightened than Jim Flanegin, I'll pass,
thanks. :-) :-) :-)
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To:
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Fine. If that's how low your standards are, then *you
Dear Turq's secretary, please forward the following response (and his choice of
puppy chow), to our common acquaintance:
Buck is not envious of me, nor is anyone else on this forum, except YOU. :-)
:-) :-)
The question (for you) is, WHY?
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Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Enlightenment
Fine. If that's how low your standards are, then *you* can be envious of him.
Since I've met canines
On 11/20/2014 8:01 AM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote:
*
*I know he is enlightened because of his first person accounts.*
*
**
/Is there any way for anyone to prove their own subjective experiences?/
/Why do you suppose Barry feels so threatened by Jim's subjective
experiences? /
*
*I can relate to
On 11/20/2014 9:35 AM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote:
No one is just spouting empty words, except you, and the one in the
dog house. I made the point a few weeks ago, when responding to
Curtis, that Enlightenment means success in the world, with family,
friends, career, finances, and general
Hi, Just to tweak your story a bit, I wasn't born enlightened. I barely made it
out alive, and it was awhile before I could breathe by myself (a couple of
months, at least). I like life infinitely better, now.
Enlightenment is not a static state, either, as you seem to imply. Just as
there
On 11/20/2014 9:17 AM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote:
Dear Turq's secretary, please forward the following response (and his
choice of puppy chow), to our common acquaintance:
So, the bottom line is that being in an enlightened state is a
subjective state that defies any material proof.
On 11/20/2014 10:32 AM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote:
Hi, Just to tweak your story a bit, I wasn't born enlightened. I
barely made it out alive, and it was awhile before I could breathe by
myself (a couple of months, at least).
/The important thing is that you awakened from your slumber -
On 11/20/2014 8:57 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
So Buck as long as someone talks the talk, you just take him at his word?
/So, we are taking your word that you took a bus up to IA in the dead of
winter, to live in a small pod, and that you learned on the job how to
set tables in the campus
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Fine. If that's how low your standards are, then *you* can be envious of him.
Since I've met canines who were more enlightened than Jim Flanegin, I'll pass,
thanks. :-) :-) :-)
From
Like.
On 6/9/2014 12:32 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS
Thanks for posting this, Anartaxius. I have successfully downloaded the
attachment, and will try to read it later today or later this weekend, when I
have time to do so, and will comment if I feel I have comments to make.
For now, I will say
From: authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
I consider Xeno's views of both Barry and Robin to be so biased--one pro, the
other con--as to be twisted. It did take a bit of effort to read some of
Robin's posts, but they weren't obfuscatory or intended to entrap,
I really don't understand this ongoing interest with Robin, that you have. I
thought he had the ability, here on FFL, more than most, to put the active
turnings of his mind, on paper, with the movement intact. I was fascinated by
it, at first, and he is clearly a brilliant guy. I saw him as a
What's your problem, Barry? I'm simply stating my opinions (albeit not
necessarily those you impute to me).
(BTW, you need to look up the distinction between infer and imply. In this
post, you are the one doing the inferring. Check it out.)
Given the huge number of words Barry has written
On 6/8/2014 5:06 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Sounds to me as if Judy is a little resentful because Xeno and Share
don't hate someone she's *told* them repeatedly that they should hate.
How dare they? :-)
So, it's all about Judy. Go figure.
Thanks for posting this, Anartaxius. I have successfully downloaded the
attachment, and will try to read it later today or later this weekend, when I
have time to do so, and will comment if I feel I have comments to make.
For now, I will say that I agree with his list of myths about
.
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Thanks for posting
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Thanks for posting this, Anartaxius. I have successfully downloaded the
attachment, and will try to read it later today or later this weekend, when I
have time to do
intersected with that idea and became fucked up.
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Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS
Thanks
Barry appears to have the attention span of a gnat. I suspect that may be why
he developed such an obsessive hatred of Robin. Here were others reading
Robin's posts with interest and understanding, and Barry couldn't get past the
first few lines. Made him feel inadequate.
---In
I would say Barry disliked Robin. Obsessive hatred seems a little extreme.
Barry doesn't like long sprawling tracts of text, Robin's speciality, and he
seems to have a very short fuse with people who think of themselves excessively
or put on airs. I did not care for Robin's writing style
I consider Xeno's views of both Barry and Robin to be so biased--one pro, the
other con--as to be twisted. It did take a bit of effort to read some of
Robin's posts, but they weren't obfuscatory or intended to entrap, nor was
he putting on airs. (That's the twisted part.) I think Xeno had
Richard, just to set the record straight, I didn't write that sentence about
enlightenment. Judy did.
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 1:22 PM, Richard J. Williams
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2/11/2014 10:35 AM, Share Long wrote:
It imposes a delusionary experience of oneself, of the
Richard, again setting the record straight: I did not write that sentence about
enlightenment. Judy did.
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 1:13 PM, Richard J. Williams
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2/11/2014 10:35 AM, Share Long wrote:
Enlightenment reached by Eastern systems is,
On 2/12/2014 7:00 AM, Share Long wrote:
Richard, again setting the record straight: I did not write that
sentence about enlightenment. Judy did.
All that matters in discussing Robin's enlightenment is what Robin said
about his own experience:
And then I as if woke up. The spell was broken.
On 2/12/2014 6:58 AM, Share Long wrote:
Richard, just to set the record straight, I didn't write that sentence
about enlightenment. Judy did.
That's what I'm talking about.
Robin said: Something disappeared forever, and I later came to know
what that was. Something continued to form the
On 2/11/2014 9:32 AM, Share Long wrote:
To honor the possibility and actuality of a very, very high state of
human development.
The state of enlightenment is like a waking up to reality. You wake up
from a dream state or from a deluded state of consciousness. Robin's,
experience of
Richard, what do you think these 2 sentences of Judy mean:
Enlightenment reached by Eastern systems is, according to Robin, the real,
genuine state of enlightenment.
...It
imposes a delusionary experience of oneself, of the world, and of one's
relationship to God.
On Tuesday, February 11,
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:
Richard, what do you think these 2 sentences of Judy mean:
Enlightenment reached by Eastern systems is, according to Robin, the real,
genuine state of enlightenment.
...It imposes a delusionary experience of oneself, of the
Share, Richard doesn't know from shit what they mean. He'll just blab whatever
comes to mind. And I've already explained, umpty times now, what I mean by
them, as has Ann. Pretty silly to ask someone else.
Richard, what do you think these 2 sentences of Judy mean:
Enlightenment reached
Judy, I was asking him to explain in the context of what he had written. And I
found his dream analogy useful.
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 11:25 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com
authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Share, Richard doesn't know from shit what they mean. He'll just blab whatever
comes
On 2/11/2014 10:35 AM, Share Long wrote:
Enlightenment reached by Eastern systems is, according to Robin, the
real, genuine state of enlightenment.
All religious systems seem to come from the East, except Mormonism,
which seems to have sprung from the mind of Moroni.
But, the enlightenment
On 2/11/2014 10:35 AM, Share Long wrote:
It imposes a delusionary experience of oneself, of the world, and of
one's relationship to God.
In the Advaita Vedanta which Robin practiced it is the ego that is the
delusion, but this delusion was not caused by God, but by Maya through
prakriti and
light and dark the yonder shores of each other,
somewhere in the middle they meet,
lost and found in the beauty of the other
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Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 12:35 PM
Subject:
Carol me and many of my long term TM friends could care less if we're
enlightened. But I want to respond to your exchange with Emily about
backpacking, walking the dog, etc.
I remember the first time I meditated in March 1975 I thought, oh, I've had
this
before. It was very familiar to me.
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Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Enlightenment...in your own words
Carol me and many of my long term TM friends could care less if we're
enlightened. But I want to respond to your exchange with Emily about
PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Enlightenment...in your own words
Oh Share I love this! I wish I could see Bob Roth and his TMO buddies response
to the statement that TM transcending thru TM and smoking pot sometimes give
the same experience! Thanks for posting
On 01/27/2013 10:45 AM, Carol wrote:
I'm curious to hear/read different folks descriptions of what it is like to
have the Silence permeate other areas of your life.
And why is this state of grounded in the self and permanent silence called
Enlightenment?
Thanks!
PS: Jim (doctordumbass)
: [FairfieldLife] Enlightenment...in your own words
On 01/27/2013 10:45 AM, Carol wrote:
I'm curious to hear/read different folks descriptions of what it is like to
have the Silence permeate other areas of your life.
And why is this state of grounded in the self and permanent silence called
: [FairfieldLife] Enlightenment...in your own words
On 01/27/2013 10:45 AM, Carol wrote:
I'm curious to hear/read different folks descriptions of what it is like to
have the Silence permeate other areas of your life.
And why is this state of grounded in the self and permanent silence called
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On 01/27/2013 10:45 AM, Carol wrote:
I'm curious to hear/read different folks descriptions of what it is like to
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On 01/27/2013 10:45 AM, Carol wrote:
I'm curious to hear/read different folks descriptions of what it is like to
have the Silence permeate other areas of your life
I love it!
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A saw a healer, who I didn't realize was Hindu-based
A saw a healer, who I didn't realize was Hindu-based at the time and told me
that if I didn't do my spiritual work, I'd reincarnate as a lower life form. I
asked her for an example - she said cat. I said, I'm O.K. with that.
From: Michael Jackson
On Apr 11, 2012, at 12:32 PM, sparaig wrote:
MMY used to claim that someone who was enlightened would be unable
to make a mistake, or similar words. What did he mean?
He was talking about the difference between deluded perception and
direct perception.
On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:22 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
For example, it's gotten me thinkin' about what my definition of an
enlightened being might be, were I to run into one. I have been
able to
come up with only a couple of things I would look for. The first is
sense of humor, and an accompanying
On Feb 14, 2009, at 1:06 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
I'm trying to pin down what the thinking is that
leads people to do this -- announce their enlight-
enment and then act as if the Big E gives them a
Karmic Get Out Of Jail Free card, and that they no
longer have any responsibility for their
Vaj wrote:
On Feb 14, 2009, at 1:06 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
I'm trying to pin down what the thinking is that
leads people to do this -- announce their enlight-
enment and then act as if the Big E gives them a
Karmic Get Out Of Jail Free card, and that they no
longer have any
It is a fascinating video that everyone should try to see. I've
shared it with over half a dozen people and the response has been
that it's very inspiring and uplifting and actually seems to give a
great sense of hope to those who watch it. This same topic, of
lateral shifts in brain
On Apr 16, 2008, at 1:38 PM, ispiritkin wrote:
I do take issue with his use of the word slavery. Commitment to the
divine feels like the opposite of slavery to me, because slavery is
unwilling bondage. My bond with the divine is a willing surrender
and a partnership. Surrender also is
I follow the discussions for all over the states world appreciate as
well more than just a one sentence reply with no reasoning etc. thus agree
with the post of emptyBill RE: Peter Stuphens comment or remark. I also do not
like to expletives other foul words used by t many others
Yes, I have been taking lessons from Turq and I do
like your post and sorry I'm such an inadequate human
beingI'll do more yogic sit-ups in the future.
When have you heard SSRS talk about this? This is
actually a great insight into many peoples' experience
of the confusion and fear that arises
With all due respect, Peter, your reply is meaningless - simply another
interjection of opinion (doxa) without any context (or content for that
matter). Have you taken secret offline lessons from TurkB in expressing your
dis-approvals? At least your style is more terse.
I've heard SSRS
I've heard him discuss this two or three times, although I'm a little fuzzy
about where/when. At least once was at the Montreal ashram and the others may
have been at Lake Tahoe. Usually the context was someone's question about the
purpose and results of practicing hollow and empty.
Sorry
On Aug 3, 2007, at 9:10 PM, billy jim wrote:
I've heard him discuss this two or three times, although I'm a
little fuzzy about where/when. At least once was at the Montreal
ashram and the others may have been at Lake Tahoe. Usually the
context was someone's question about the purpose and
This is absolute nonsense. With all due respect, you
don't know what the f*ck you're talking about. ;-)
--- BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
MMY seems to be suggesting Enlightenment occurs at
the 6th chakra,
enlightenment or 'Self-Realization', and Cosmic
Consciousness
(realization of all
claudiouk wrote:
Feeling rather disillusioned right now about enlightenment. Firstly
on a personal level - a dead loss. Secondly as regards MMY even if he
is enlightened there are just too many things that appear wrong
about it to me - his mismanagement of followers and Movement
resources
On Mar 6, 2007, at 6:32 PM, claudiouk wrote:
Feeling rather disillusioned right now about enlightenment. Firstly
on a personal level - a dead loss. Secondly as regards MMY even if he
is enlightened there are just too many things that appear wrong
about it to me - his mismanagement of followers
Your post reads like Rama's Lament in the Yoga
Vaishista. You're finishing up with the relative and
recognizing that nothing in time and space can
complete or fulfill you. It's all crap. Even the crap
is crap. Even your lament about the crap is crap. Its
all a bullshit fraud. You've been cheated
Interesting article. He had a very
hard pointing out experience. How lucky one is if they don't have to go through
all that. Watching Katrina was very much like this for us. Especially for
my wife - a native of NOLA.
I would very much say that this
person is making a statement beyond
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Enlightenment University
on 1/12/06 8:28 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The mission of Diamond Mountain is to provide all of the conditions, inside and outside of us, that we need to actually reach enlightenment, ourselves, before the day we die.
Our mission
On Jan 12, 2006, at 10:55 AM, Rick Archer wrote:on 1/12/06 8:28 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:"The mission of Diamond Mountain is to provide all of the conditions, inside and outside of us, that we need to actually reach enlightenment, ourselves, before the day we die."Our mission at
Comment below:
--- rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you close your eyes for a second, even if you're
a nonmeditator, you have a salient glimpse of
yourself as empty, whether your mind is trained to
think so or not. If the mind can just let go and
surrender everything to the moment and
. They might think
you're crazy but your really sivasakti. The master of the temple has no specific
instruction.
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