Re: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
Absolutely Awoelflebater has a point, Yep I am fine with marriage being reserved (licensed) for describing the raising of offspring by adults. ..for the purpose of.. Then, Civil unions for various combinations of everything else. Clearly in the cases of early Mormonist plural wives it was patriarchal sexual abuse flat out coming from the top guy down. I have been at recent conferences listening to these papers delivered by the scholars who have read through the early Mormon archival writings. It is eye-opening explosive stuff way more than just some smoking guns. This Smith guy was a narcissistic schizophrenic nut straight out. If you would like some insight as to context in to the mind of what was going on with the golden tablets, hieroglyphs, and conversations with angels then revisit the movie, A Beautiful Mind http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Beautiful_Mind_(film http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Beautiful_Mind_(film) A lot more is known now about states of Mental Health than was known then in the 19th Century. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck jr_esq@... wrote : Ann, You've got a point. That's probably why polygamy is not legal in the US. But the country's mores are changing quickly given the fact that gay marriage is now acceptable and legal. We'll just have to wait and see what else is next. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : It may be legal in the country where you live. But it's still technically illegal to practice polygamy in the USA. From what I understand, there are parts of Utah where the authorities do not enforce the law even though they know the people who are living in a polygamous household. These assholes who own multiple wives in these fundamentalist communities should be kicked in the nuts. I have no patience for these guys. They're all high and mighty religious and holier than thou and at the same time lording it over the barefoot and pregnant. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Why do you associate polygamy with multiple wives? The actual definition of the word is a marriage with multiple partners. Why not multiple husbands for one wife, or just multiple partners, period? As for challenging the prohibition, you're still stuck in American Puritan mode. Polyamorous marriage is practiced (and legal) in many countries currently. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives If this was possible during his time, will it become legal again to have plural wives now? With the acceptance of gay marriage, IMO it would soon be possible for people to challenge the prohibition of polygamy in the USA. What do you think? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/11/joseph-smith-40-wives_n_6138508.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/11/joseph-smith-40-wives_n_6138508.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592
Re: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
** All the Mormons I've met were very nice people. However, none of them was living in a polygamous household. From what I understand, a Mormon who is married in this life stays married to his or her spouse(s) in the afterlife, contrary to the common Christian idea that marriage is only good in this lifetime. There's also the idea that Mormon married people can populate their own planets in the cosmos with their children and descendants in the afterlife. Believe it or not. On 11/12/2014 12:35 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Certainly none of these ideas are any weirder or any less likely to be true than the idea that there is a God. Non sequitur. That's so ludicrous that having your own planet is not that big an additional leap. :-) Your bias is causing your common sense some dissonace. What is important in the U.S. is whether or not we can populate our own country. If the birth rate continues to drop we will have to increase immigration. It takes a lot of young labor to feed and care for our aging population. To this end, only polygamy has an upside as far as the birth rate - it increases the number of children born into the household to join the work force. It's not complicated.
Re: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Absolutely Awoelflebater has a point, Yep I am fine with marriage being reserved (licensed) for describing the raising of offspring by adults. ..for the purpose of.. Then, Civil unions for various combinations of everything else. Clearly in the cases of early Mormonist plural wives it was patriarchal sexual abuse flat out coming from the top guy down. I have been at recent conferences listening to these papers delivered by the scholars who have read through the early Mormon archival writings. It is eye-opening explosive stuff way more than just some smoking guns. This Smith guy was a narcissistic schizophrenic nut straight out. If you would like some insight as to context in to the mind of what was going on with the golden tablets, hieroglyphs, and conversations with angels then revisit the movie, A Beautiful Mind http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Beautiful_Mind_(film http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Beautiful_Mind_(film) A lot more is known now about states of Mental Health than was known then in the 19th Century. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck jr_esq@... wrote : Ann, You've got a point. That's probably why polygamy is not legal in the US. But the country's mores are changing quickly given the fact that gay marriage is now acceptable and legal. We'll just have to wait and see what else is next. There are only 16 States that currently allow for gay marriage. We are a long way from all 50 States accepting this. We are even longer from the legalization of multiple marriages. In fact, I would say that will never, ever happen nor do I think it should. If you want multiple partners, don't get married. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : It may be legal in the country where you live. But it's still technically illegal to practice polygamy in the USA. From what I understand, there are parts of Utah where the authorities do not enforce the law even though they know the people who are living in a polygamous household. These assholes who own multiple wives in these fundamentalist communities should be kicked in the nuts. I have no patience for these guys. They're all high and mighty religious and holier than thou and at the same time lording it over the barefoot and pregnant. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Why do you associate polygamy with multiple wives? The actual definition of the word is a marriage with multiple partners. Why not multiple husbands for one wife, or just multiple partners, period? As for challenging the prohibition, you're still stuck in American Puritan mode. Polyamorous marriage is practiced (and legal) in many countries currently. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives If this was possible during his time, will it become legal again to have plural wives now? With the acceptance of gay marriage, IMO it would soon be possible for people to challenge the prohibition of polygamy in the USA. What do you think? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/11/joseph-smith-40-wives_n_6138508.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/11/joseph-smith-40-wives_n_6138508.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592
Re: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
Om, These recent Joseph Smith and his 40 wives articles surfacing in the popular press were incredibly shoddy at referencing the actual scholarly work behind their journalism that their articles were written on and edited off of. Like, really bad professional journalism. Damned yellow as a matter of fact. The primary sources are way better than these Huffington articles themselve that some these hack journalists and their editors are going to gain credit for themselves at the surface of google subject searches. 'nother ethical example sort of like the Chicken Soup people propelling their own marketing. These Huffington writers and editors are meditators too? -Buck Absolutely Awoelflebater has a point, Yep I am fine with marriage being reserved (licensed) for describing the raising of offspring by adults. ..for the purpose of.. Then, Civil unions for various combinations of everything else. Clearly in the cases of early Mormonist plural wives it was patriarchal sexual abuse flat out coming from the top guy down. I have been at recent conferences listening to these papers delivered by the scholars who have read through the early Mormon archival writings. It is eye-opening explosive stuff way more than just some smoking guns. This Smith guy was a narcissistic schizophrenic nut straight out. If you would like some insight as to context in to the mind of what was going on with the golden tablets, hieroglyphs, and conversations with angels then revisit the movie, A Beautiful Mind http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Beautiful_Mind_(film http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Beautiful_Mind_(film) A lot more is known now about states of Mental Health than was known then in the 19th Century. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck jr_esq@... wrote : Ann, You've got a point. That's probably why polygamy is not legal in the US. But the country's mores are changing quickly given the fact that gay marriage is now acceptable and legal. We'll just have to wait and see what else is next. There are only 16 States that currently allow for gay marriage. We are a long way from all 50 States accepting this. We are even longer from the legalization of multiple marriages. In fact, I would say that will never, ever happen nor do I think it should. If you want multiple partners, don't get married. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : It may be legal in the country where you live. But it's still technically illegal to practice polygamy in the USA. From what I understand, there are parts of Utah where the authorities do not enforce the law even though they know the people who are living in a polygamous household. These assholes who own multiple wives in these fundamentalist communities should be kicked in the nuts. I have no patience for these guys. They're all high and mighty religious and holier than thou and at the same time lording it over the barefoot and pregnant. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Why do you associate polygamy with multiple wives? The actual definition of the word is a marriage with multiple partners. Why not multiple husbands for one wife, or just multiple partners, period? As for challenging the prohibition, you're still stuck in American Puritan mode. Polyamorous marriage is practiced (and legal) in many countries currently. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives If this was possible during his time, will it become legal again to have plural wives now? With the acceptance of gay marriage, IMO it would soon be possible for people to challenge the prohibition of polygamy in the USA. What do you think? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/11/joseph-smith-40-wives_n_6138508.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/11/joseph-smith-40-wives_n_6138508.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592
Re: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
You know damn good and well the Huff post people are TM'ers - they have set themselves up as the TM rag of the media. And the shoddy journalism evidenced in these Joe Smith articles are not any worse than the shoddy science behind TM or the equally crummy grasping at straws to make all things TM seem good. Not to mention the ridiculous article the Movement put out alleging that criminal Prime Minister Modi was an avid TM'er. Although from his criminal behavior, I would say he probably is. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives Om, These recent Joseph Smith and his 40 wives articles surfacing in the popular press were incredibly shoddy at referencing the actual scholarly work behind their journalism that their articles were written on and edited off of. Like, really bad professional journalism. Damned yellow as a matter of fact. The primary sources are way better than these Huffington articles themselve that some these hack journalists and their editors are going to gain credit for themselves at the surface of google subject searches. 'nother ethical example sort of like the Chicken Soup people propelling their own marketing. These Huffington writers and editors are meditators too? -Buck Absolutely Awoelflebater has a point, Yep I am fine with marriage being reserved (licensed) for describing the raising of offspring by adults. ..for the purpose of.. Then, Civil unions for various combinations of everything else. Clearly in the cases of early Mormonist plural wives it was patriarchal sexual abuse flat out coming from the top guy down. I have been at recent conferences listening to these papers delivered by the scholars who have read through the early Mormon archival writings. It is eye-opening explosive stuff way more than just some smoking guns.This Smith guy was a narcissistic schizophrenic nut straight out. If you would like some insight as to context in to the mind of what was going on with the golden tablets, hieroglyphs, and conversations with angels then revisit the movie, A Beautiful Mind http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Beautiful_Mind_(film) A lot more is known now about states of Mental Health than was known then in the 19th Century. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck jr_esq@... wrote : Ann, You've got a point. That's probably why polygamy is not legal in the US. But the country's mores are changing quickly given the fact that gay marriage is now acceptable and legal. We'll just have to wait and see what else is next. There are only 16 States that currently allow for gay marriage. We are a long way from all 50 States accepting this. We are even longer from the legalization of multiple marriages. In fact, I would say that will never, ever happen nor do I think it should. If you want multiple partners, don't get married. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : It may be legal in the country where you live. But it's still technically illegal to practice polygamy in the USA. From what I understand, there are parts of Utah where the authorities do not enforce the law even though they know the people who are living in a polygamous household. These assholes who own multiple wives in these fundamentalist communities should be kicked in the nuts. I have no patience for these guys. They're all high and mighty religious and holier than thou and at the same time lording it over the barefoot and pregnant. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Why do you associate polygamy with multiple wives? The actual definition of the word is a marriage with multiple partners. Why not multiple husbands for one wife, or just multiple partners, period? As for challenging the prohibition, you're still stuck in American Puritan mode. Polyamorous marriage is practiced (and legal) in many countries currently. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives If this was possible during his time, will it become legal again to have plural wives now? With the acceptance of gay marriage, IMO it would soon be possible for people to challenge the prohibition of polygamy in the USA. What do you think? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/11/joseph-smith-40-wives_n_6138508.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592
Re: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
On 11/12/2014 9:47 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: You know damn good and well the Huff post people are TM'ers - they have set themselves up as the TM rag of the media. And the shoddy journalism /Not too shoddy for the resident science writer-reporter to post articles from. Go figure./ evidenced in these Joe Smith articles are not any worse than the shoddy science behind TM or the equally crummy grasping at straws to make all things TM seem good. /Non sequitur./ Not to mention the ridiculous article the Movement put out alleging that criminal Prime Minister Modi was an avid TM'er. Although from his criminal behavior, I would say he probably is. /Non sequitur. / *From:* dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, November 12, 2014 10:30 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives Om, These recent Joseph Smith and his 40 wives articles surfacing in the popular press were incredibly shoddy at referencing the actual scholarly work behind their journalism that their articles were written on and edited off of. Like, really bad professional journalism. Damned yellow as a matter of fact. The primary sources are way better than these Huffington articles themselve that some these hack journalists and their editors are going to gain credit for themselves at the surface of google subject searches. 'nother ethical example sort of like the Chicken Soup people propelling their own marketing. These Huffington writers and editors are meditators too? -Buck Absolutely Awoelflebater has a point, Yep I am fine with /marriage/ being reserved (licensed) for describing the raising of offspring by adults. ..for the purpose of.. Then, /Civil unions/ for various combinations of everything else. Clearly in the cases of early Mormonist plural wives it was patriarchal sexual abuse flat out coming from the top guy down. I have been at recent conferences listening to these papers delivered by the scholars who have read through the early Mormon archival writings. It is eye-opening explosive stuff way more than just some smoking guns. This Smith guy was a narcissistic schizophrenic nut straight out. If you would like some insight as to context in to the mind of what was going on with the golden tablets, hieroglyphs, and conversations with angels then revisit the movie, /A Beautiful Mind/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Beautiful_Mind_(film http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Beautiful_Mind_%28film) A lot more is known now about states of Mental Health than was known then in the 19^th Century. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck jr_esq@... wrote : Ann, You've got a point. That's probably why polygamy is not legal in the US. But the country's mores are changing quickly given the fact that gay marriage is now acceptable and legal. We'll just have to wait and see what else is next. There are only 16 States that currently allow for gay marriage. We are a long way from all 50 States accepting this. We are even longer from the legalization of multiple marriages. In fact, I would say that will never, ever happen nor do I think it should. If you want multiple partners, don't get married. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : It may be legal in the country where you live. But it's still technically illegal to practice polygamy in the USA. From what I understand, there are parts of Utah where the authorities do not enforce the law even though they know the people who are living in a polygamous household. These assholes who own multiple wives in these fundamentalist communities should be kicked in the nuts. I have no patience for these guys. They're all high and mighty religious and holier than thou and at the same time lording it over the barefoot and pregnant. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Why do you associate polygamy with multiple wives? The actual definition of the word is a marriage with multiple partners. Why not multiple husbands for one wife, or just multiple partners, period? As for challenging the prohibition, you're still stuck in American Puritan mode. Polyamorous marriage is practiced (and legal) in many countries currently. *From:* jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:43 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives If this was possible during his time, will it become legal again to have plural wives now? With the acceptance of gay marriage, IMO it would soon be possible for people to challenge the prohibition of polygamy in the USA. What do you think? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/11
Re: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
John, I think it's fine...as long as polyandry is also allowed (-:
From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 1:43 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
If this was possible during his time, will it become legal again to have
plural wives now? With the acceptance of gay marriage, IMO it would soon be
possible for people to challenge the prohibition of polygamy in the USA. What
do you think?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/11/joseph-smith-40-wives_n_6138508.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592
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RE: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:15 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives John, I think it's fine...as long as polyandry is also allowed (-: Like the Pandavas. _ From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] mailto:jr_...@yahoo.com%20[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 1:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives If this was possible during his time, will it become legal again to have plural wives now? With the acceptance of gay marriage, IMO it would soon be possible for people to challenge the prohibition of polygamy in the USA. What do you think? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/11/joseph-smith-40-wives_n_6138508.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592
Re: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
Why do you associate polygamy with multiple wives? The actual definition of the word is a marriage with multiple partners. Why not multiple husbands for one wife, or just multiple partners, period? As for challenging the prohibition, you're still stuck in American Puritan mode. Polyamorous marriage is practiced (and legal) in many countries currently. From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives If this was possible during his time, will it become legal again to have plural wives now? With the acceptance of gay marriage, IMO it would soon be possible for people to challenge the prohibition of polygamy in the USA. What do you think? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/11/joseph-smith-40-wives_n_6138508.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592
Re: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
It may be legal in the country where you live. But it's still technically illegal to practice polygamy in the USA. From what I understand, there are parts of Utah where the authorities do not enforce the law even though they know the people who are living in a polygamous household. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Why do you associate polygamy with multiple wives? The actual definition of the word is a marriage with multiple partners. Why not multiple husbands for one wife, or just multiple partners, period? As for challenging the prohibition, you're still stuck in American Puritan mode. Polyamorous marriage is practiced (and legal) in many countries currently. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives If this was possible during his time, will it become legal again to have plural wives now? With the acceptance of gay marriage, IMO it would soon be possible for people to challenge the prohibition of polygamy in the USA. What do you think? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/11/joseph-smith-40-wives_n_6138508.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/11/joseph-smith-40-wives_n_6138508.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592
Re: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : It may be legal in the country where you live. But it's still technically illegal to practice polygamy in the USA. From what I understand, there are parts of Utah where the authorities do not enforce the law even though they know the people who are living in a polygamous household. These assholes who own multiple wives in these fundamentalist communities should be kicked in the nuts. I have no patience for these guys. They're all high and mighty religious and holier than thou and at the same time lording it over the barefoot and pregnant. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Why do you associate polygamy with multiple wives? The actual definition of the word is a marriage with multiple partners. Why not multiple husbands for one wife, or just multiple partners, period? As for challenging the prohibition, you're still stuck in American Puritan mode. Polyamorous marriage is practiced (and legal) in many countries currently. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives If this was possible during his time, will it become legal again to have plural wives now? With the acceptance of gay marriage, IMO it would soon be possible for people to challenge the prohibition of polygamy in the USA. What do you think? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/11/joseph-smith-40-wives_n_6138508.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/11/joseph-smith-40-wives_n_6138508.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592
Re: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
A co-worker friend of mine lived in Utah at one time. He said it was normal for
Mormon elders to approach a successful man and insist he take a second or third
wife, whatever he could afford. Supposedly it kept young ladies out of
*trouble* and off welfare. The women had children and a man to support them. As
for women having multiple husbands, up until recently, the question would
arise, who da baby daddy? Now we have Maury and DNA testing.
From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
It may be legal in the country where you live. But it's still technically
illegal to practice polygamy in the USA. From what I understand, there are
parts of Utah where the authorities do not enforce the law even though they
know the people who are living in a polygamous household.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
Why do you associate polygamy with multiple wives? The actual definition of
the word is a marriage with multiple partners. Why not multiple husbands for
one wife, or just multiple partners, period?
As for challenging the prohibition, you're still stuck inAmerican Puritan
mode. Polyamorous marriage is practiced (and legal) in many countries
currently.
From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:43 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
If this was possible during his time, will it become legal again to have
plural wives now? With the acceptance of gay marriage, IMO it would soon be
possible for people to challenge the prohibition of polygamy in the USA. What
do you think?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/11/joseph-smith-40-wives_n_6138508.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592
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Re: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
Ann, You've got a point. That's probably why polygamy is not legal in the US. But the country's mores are changing quickly given the fact that gay marriage is now acceptable and legal. We'll just have to wait and see what else is next. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : It may be legal in the country where you live. But it's still technically illegal to practice polygamy in the USA. From what I understand, there are parts of Utah where the authorities do not enforce the law even though they know the people who are living in a polygamous household. These assholes who own multiple wives in these fundamentalist communities should be kicked in the nuts. I have no patience for these guys. They're all high and mighty religious and holier than thou and at the same time lording it over the barefoot and pregnant. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Why do you associate polygamy with multiple wives? The actual definition of the word is a marriage with multiple partners. Why not multiple husbands for one wife, or just multiple partners, period? As for challenging the prohibition, you're still stuck in American Puritan mode. Polyamorous marriage is practiced (and legal) in many countries currently. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives If this was possible during his time, will it become legal again to have plural wives now? With the acceptance of gay marriage, IMO it would soon be possible for people to challenge the prohibition of polygamy in the USA. What do you think? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/11/joseph-smith-40-wives_n_6138508.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/11/joseph-smith-40-wives_n_6138508.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592
Re: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
Mike, All the Mormons I've met were very nice people. However, none of them was living in a polygamous household. From what I understand, a Mormon who is married in this life stays married to his or her spouse(s) in the afterlife, contrary to the common Christian idea that marriage is only good in this lifetime. There's also the idea that Mormon married people can populate their own planets in the cosmos with their children and descendants in the afterlife. Believe it or not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : A co-worker friend of mine lived in Utah at one time. He said it was normal for Mormon elders to approach a successful man and insist he take a second or third wife, whatever he could afford. Supposedly it kept young ladies out of *trouble* and off welfare. The women had children and a man to support them. As for women having multiple husbands, up until recently, the question would arise, who da baby daddy? Now we have Maury and DNA testing. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives It may be legal in the country where you live. But it's still technically illegal to practice polygamy in the USA. From what I understand, there are parts of Utah where the authorities do not enforce the law even though they know the people who are living in a polygamous household. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Why do you associate polygamy with multiple wives? The actual definition of the word is a marriage with multiple partners. Why not multiple husbands for one wife, or just multiple partners, period? As for challenging the prohibition, you're still stuck in American Puritan mode. Polyamorous marriage is practiced (and legal) in many countries currently. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives If this was possible during his time, will it become legal again to have plural wives now? With the acceptance of gay marriage, IMO it would soon be possible for people to challenge the prohibition of polygamy in the USA. What do you think? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/11/joseph-smith-40-wives_n_6138508.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/11/joseph-smith-40-wives_n_6138508.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592
Re: [FairfieldLife] LDS Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Mike, All the Mormons I've met were very nice people. However, none of them was living in a polygamous household. From what I understand, a Mormon who is married in this life stays married to his or her spouse(s) in the afterlife, contrary to the common Christian idea that marriage is only good in this lifetime. There's also the idea that Mormon married people can populate their own planets in the cosmos with their children and descendants in the afterlife. Believe it or not. Certainly none of these ideas are any weirder or any less likely to be true than the idea that there is a God. That's so ludicrous that having your own planet is not that big an additional leap. :-)
