Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Are You Sure You Exist?

2014-01-30 Thread Richard Williams
If we observe the realist closely, we will find that at some times he relies principally on his eyes and, at other times, on his ears. When different senses corroborate an error, we are still more baffled. The realist is unaware that he has no criterion of the reality or unreality of objects

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Are You Sure You Exist?

2014-01-30 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: If we observe the realist closely, we will find that at some times he relies principally on his eyes and, at other times, on his ears. When different senses corroborate an error, we are still more baffled. The realist is unaware

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Are You Sure You Exist?

2014-01-30 Thread Share Long
Ann and Richard, this reminds of the snake and string story. If someone mistakes a string for a snake in front of them and gets all scared, releasing damaging chemicals into their bloodstream, that's not ideal imo. Someone else comes along and tells them that it's only a string and picks it up

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Are You Sure You Exist?

2014-01-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 1/27/2014 8:01 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: This is elementary. I know I exist. That is only thing of which I am *absolutely* certain. Most people when asked this question, would reply using a naive realist position that because we are conscious and can perceive things and events with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are You Sure You Exist?

2014-01-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 1/27/2014 12:58 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: */My Descartesian answer: I post obvious trollbait, and some people are so stupid and so attached as to get their hot buttons pushed by it and feel that they have to reply. :-) :-) :-) /* You just had to reply with a Descartesian answer because you

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Are You Sure You Exist?

2014-01-29 Thread Share Long
Richard, I think the stick appearing bent in the water is a great example. We can know a lot about sticks and water and light refraction and still, we won't see the stick as straight! Even if we dip our hand into the water and touch the straight stick, we still won't see it straight! Can all

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Are You Sure You Exist?

2014-01-29 Thread salyavin808
But it's the senses that reveal that the stick isn't bent, you just have to know a bit more about what you are looking at. Please demonstrate that there is a transcendental field hidden from view. It sounds like a belief to me as no matter how hard we look it isn't like a bent stick is it?

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Are You Sure You Exist?

2014-01-29 Thread Share Long
Salyavin, I'm simply exploring this experience. Yes, our senses demonstrate the straightness of stick. We can touch it. We can lift it out of the water. We can understand how water and light work to create the optical illusion. But we still won't see the stick in the water as straight. For some

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Are You Sure You Exist?

2014-01-29 Thread salyavin808
Hi Share, that was directed at Willytex, I should have quoted from his post. This stupid system is no fun to use, no wonder Yahoo shares are dropping!

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Are You Sure You Exist?

2014-01-29 Thread Share Long
Salyavin, that's ok and I agree Neo is a mess. It's just wonderful to have you back posting again. On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 9:59 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:   Hi Share, that was directed at Willytex, I should have quoted from his post. This stupid system is no

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Are You Sure You Exist?

2014-01-29 Thread authfriend
Salyavin, a tip that Feste discovered: Type your message, and when you're through, before you send it, click on the three dots in the lower left-hand corner of the Reply window. Then what you're responding to will show up when you make your post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Are You Sure You Exist?

2014-01-27 Thread Bhairitu
What is the I? On 01/27/2014 09:38 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Question of the day: how do you know you exist? I typed this.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are You Sure You Exist?

2014-01-27 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 1/27/2014 12:58 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: */My Descartesian answer: I post obvious trollbait, and some people are so stupid and so attached as to get their hot buttons pushed by it and feel that they have to reply. :-) :-) :-) /* So, you just had to reply. LoL!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are You Sure You Exist?

2014-01-27 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 1/27/2014 1:58 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: */Now here is a man with a real direction in his life. Sit by the computer and decide how to post really important and thoughtful things on the internet. You're a real catch Bawyy./* You caught Barry again, good work Ann!