Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-11 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/10/2014 7:01 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Richard, neither you or Share take yourselves or what you post seriously; I think that is what you two find so attractive about each other. Two peas in a pod. However, if posting here maintains your mental and emotional health and helps

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-11 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/10/2014 8:43 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Richard, we do not take your posts seriously per your instructions. The term 'Internet Troll' is frequently abused to slander opponents in heated debates and is frequently misapplied by those who are ignorant of internet etiquette. Judy

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-11 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/10/2014 8:43 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: Richard,we do not take your posts seriously per your instructions. The term 'Internet Troll' is frequently abused to slander opponents in heated debates

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-11 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/11/2014 9:02 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: You're trolling here. The term 'Internet Troll' is frequently abused to slander opponents in heated debates and is frequently misapplied by those who are ignorant of Internet etiquette. But then we all know not to take you seriously,

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-11 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/9/2014 6:03 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: *Rakshasas* /raksasas/ (Sanskrit) According to the Dictionary of Hinduism, the term Raksasa is ...an epithet applied in the Rig Veda to Indian indigenes whose characteristics were likened to demons of popular folklore. Most of the native

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-10 Thread nablusoss1008
I also wondered why it was so difficult for some to follow the flow. Go figure :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/9/2014 7:49 AM, salyavin808 wrote: I'd say please press the show message history before posting so we can see what you are on about

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/10/2014 4:51 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: I also wondered why it was so difficult for some to follow the flow. Go figure :-) It has been suggested that the reason some of the FFL informants can't keep up with the conversation flow is because of ADD. But, it's much simpler than that - they

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-10 Thread anartaxius
I see. If you work, you cannot be serious here. What is it about FFL that makes it so importantly serious that a conversation, argument must proceed a certain way? Does this require a certain kind of obsession? Enlightenment is the ultimate joke. Why not just have fun? ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-10 Thread authfriend
I don't believe anybody said it was so difficult. It's just a nuisance. And the point is that you could eliminate that nuisance with a single mouse click, as Salyavin, Michael, and I have asked you to. There's no reason for you not to do it except to be deliberately discourteous. This may

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-10 Thread nablusoss1008
OK, did I get it right now ? Anyways, what makes you think I even read the post from MJ and Sal ? I do sometimes read your though but haven't even seen the see all messages thing, I'm not here often enough to have even noticed it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-10 Thread authfriend
Yes, thank you. OK, did I get it right now ? Anyways, what makes you think I even read the post from MJ and Sal ? I do sometimes read your though but haven't even seen the see all messages thing, I'm not here often enough to have even noticed it. I don't believe anybody said it

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-10 Thread anartaxius
Nabby, it actually is a link says 'show message history' in the reply window which you now seem to have found. I missed it for a while. But occasionally I will enter a thread not replying to a particular post, and then either delete the previous message(s) or do not show message history. But if

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-10 Thread nablusoss1008
Good points anartaxius. However my experience shows that the motivation for staying with TM can be anything. I know people who began meditating for simple reasons of health and have been doing TM regularily now for 54 years. Believe me, for some of these people enlightenment has never been a

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/10/2014 9:10 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: If you work, you cannot be serious here. It works for me - posting from a home office and chatting on the internet at the same time, all hours of the day and night, is fun and I take it very seriously. I've been posting since 1998 and will

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/10/2014 9:10 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: What is it about FFL that makes it so importantly serious that a conversation, argument must proceed a certain way? That's because we are old and we have already made up our minds about things and so we're not going to change much anymore. We

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/10/2014 9:11 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: This may come as a shock to you, but it's not necessarily the case that everyone is so utterly fascinated by your conversations that the flow will stick in their minds. You totally missed the point of posting to FFL. Who cares what other

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/10/2014 9:19 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: (Don't pay any attention to Richard, for pete's sake. He's just trolling, as usual.) You need to stop the lying, Judy. Calling someone a troll makes assumptions about a writer's motives that are impossible to determine unless you are a mind reader.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/10/2014 9:28 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't believe anybody said it was so difficult. It's just a nuisance. It's more than a nuisance - it's a pain, as is the rest of Neo. It's Yahoo's way to dumb things down for the newbies, I guess. You can't even see the threaded posts

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-10 Thread emilymaenot
Richard, neither you or Share take yourselves or what you post seriously; I think that is what you two find so attractive about each other. Two peas in a pod. However, if posting here maintains your mental and emotional health and helps you be kind to Rita, than more power to you. ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-10 Thread Share Long
Emily, thanks for saying I'm similar to Richard. I take that as a compliment. On Monday, March 10, 2014 7:01 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote:   Richard, neither you or Share take yourselves or what you post seriously; I think that is what you two find so attractive

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-10 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/10/2014 9:19 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: (Don't pay any attention to Richard, for pete's sake. He's just trolling, as usual.) You need to stop the lying, Judy. Calling someone a troll makes assumptions about a writer's

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-10 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Emily, thanks for saying I'm similar to Richard. I take that as a compliment. I figured you might. On Monday, March 10, 2014 7:01 PM, emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... wrote: Richard, neither you or Share take

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-10 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : Richard, neither you or Share take yourselves or what you post seriously; I think that is what you two find so attractive about each other. Two peas in a pod. However, if posting here maintains your mental and emotional health

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-09 Thread TurquoiseBee
wordlessly. IMO, of course. From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 4:46 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM   Thanks for the reply. I followed

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-09 Thread Share Long
Emily, methunks that there is no disconnect between enlightenment, which you asked about, and life, which was the context of my answer and includes BOTH kinds of smile (-: On Saturday, March 8, 2014 9:10 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote:   Methinks you may have

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-09 Thread doctordumbass
@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 4:46 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM Thanks for the reply. I followed your link and enjoyed the poems. Turquoise Bee was clearly someone who enjoyed the more earthy

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-09 Thread salyavin808
@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 4:46 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM Thanks for the reply. I followed your link and enjoyed the poems. Turquoise Bee was clearly someone who enjoyed the more

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-09 Thread TurquoiseBee
: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Buddhists seem to have a BIG PR

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-09 Thread Share Long
Salyavin, it was something about NATO being one of three rakshasas. On Sunday, March 9, 2014 7:49 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:   I'd say please press the show message history before posting so we can see what you are on about but then I saw the words Benjamin Creme

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-09 Thread emilymaenot
From the information Emptybill posted: Will I get everything I want when I'm enlightened? No. But once you know self, you won’t want anything else. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Emily, methunks that there is no disconnect between enlightenment, which you

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-09 Thread doctordumbass
My experience has been more like, 'be careful what you wish for' - due to thoughts being entertained at a more powerful place, desires happen - all of them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : From the information Emptybill posted: Will I get everything I want

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-09 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : From the information Emptybill posted: Will I get everything I want when I'm enlightened? No. But once you know self, you won’t want anything else. I'm glad you could make heads or tails from what Share wrote below because I

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-09 Thread emilymaenot
Well, it is amusing to watch Share's mind...I wonder if she was following mine. The word methinks is one used by Shakespeare. Shakespeare wrote of paradox and, if you will, wondrous paradox. And on this topic of paradox, from the book Shakespeare and the Paradox we find the following:

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-09 Thread Share Long
Methinks the lady doth protest too much. The one in Seattle that is! The thing is Emily, I replied to emptybill as I was moved to reply and in a way that made sense to me. One has to start there I think and see what happens next. On Sunday, March 9, 2014 12:12 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-09 Thread emilymaenot
But Share, something did happen next. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Methinks the lady doth protest too much. The one in Seattle that is! The thing is Emily, I replied to emptybill as I was moved to reply and in a way that made sense to me. One has to start

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-09 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/9/2014 3:01 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: I've seen at least one person levitate fer real and turn invisible and stuff like that and then turn around and act like a total dick. Maybe we don't care if you're a dick or not, or where you have been - we just want you to tell us the secret of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-09 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/9/2014 6:23 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: What are the other two rakshasas, besides NATO? It would probably be a good idea to look up what the work rakshasas means in Sanskrit. Maybe some people don't realize is this was the word used by the Caucasian Aryan invaders of India to

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-09 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/8/2014 9:46 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Does practising being a Buddhist leave you emotionally needy and insecure? If so what's the point? You need to realize that this is a pattern: what students learn from their teachers sometimes they become. So far as we can tell from his

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-09 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/9/2014 6:58 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Buddhism has the little DL dude, and Uma Thurman's dad, and the DL does nothing except smile, and no one has ever heard of Uma Thurman's dad Buddhism has the Buddha AND the DL dude, and there a millions of Buddhists that have heard of

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-09 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/9/2014 7:49 AM, salyavin808 wrote: I'd say please press the show message history before posting so we can see what you are on about There are only about six or seven us having an online conversation these days - I can remember what each one you has posted the day before. I don't need

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-09 Thread doctordumbass
I am SO tired of your Chimp at the keyboard routine... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/9/2014 6:58 AM, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: Buddhism has the little DL dude, and Uma Thurman's dad, and the DL does nothing except smile, and no one

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-09 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/9/2014 8:45 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: I am SO tired of your Chimp at the keyboard routine... You are not even making any sense. Anyone who meditates with the goal of attaining enlightenment is a Buddhist.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-08 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/8/2014 7:37 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: What is, a final renunciation??? Sounds like people getting confused, between a monk's life of solitude, and a worldly person's active life. This concept is a false one - no matter what a person's state of consciousness, there is no

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-08 Thread Share Long
Richard, you've said it before and I really like that phrase: you are only going to get as much enlightenment as you're going to get. It just sounds right and profound and funny too. Also like the bit about the tea stall wallah. All in all, a gem of a post (-: In Austin, is the Whole Foods in

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-08 Thread emptybill
Share, Sorry to have to say it again to you but none of us will get any enlightenment at all, not now or at any time - never, ever. Enlightenment is a silly scam to get you to want something that you already are by nature. It is more accurately called selling water by the river. There is

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-08 Thread Share Long
Emptybill, Sorry, I did not weep, I read and enjoyed, thank you. It's ok if enlightenment gets me instead of me getting it. Six of one, half dozen of another (-: So we could say, combining your words and punditsir's: enlightenment is only gonna get me as much as it gets me. That feels right.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-08 Thread emilymaenot
Share, how does your comment relate to the article and to what Emptybill's comment was? Can you elaborate? What is enlightenment to you. Sounds like you think it is a thing? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Emptybill, Sorry, I did not weep, I read and

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-08 Thread Share Long
Emily, emptybill and Doc are way better at describing it than I am. I just have glimpses and sense it all around in everything and everyone. It's a state of wondrous paradox. On Saturday, March 8, 2014 7:02 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote:   Share, how does your

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-08 Thread emilymaenot
Methinks you may have changed what I was asking to make an attempt to talk of the topic, life. I have now changed my own context to Share talking about life and I am amused (in a friendly way). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Emily, emptybill and Doc are way

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-07 Thread Share Long
Seraph, rather than being the final refusal to lose one's individuality or the final grasping at a gratifying experience? maybe it's simply a case of extreme devotion, wanting to adore the Beloved rather than become one with the Beloved. On Thursday, March 6, 2014 9:18 PM,

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-07 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Seraph, rather than being the final refusal to lose one's individuality or the final grasping at a gratifying experience? maybe it's simply a case of extreme devotion, wanting to adore the Beloved rather than become one with the

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-07 Thread Share Long
Ann, the flowing along of life IS the Beloved. As is another person. As is the piece of music. Even being preoccupied with this or that is the Beloved. In my experience, the Beloved is all inclusive. Which means including Bawwy. Go figure! On Friday, March 7, 2014 8:32 AM,

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-07 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 7, 2014 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM   Ann, the flowing along of life IS the Beloved. As is another

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-07 Thread Share Long
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM   Ann, the flowing along of life IS the Beloved. As is another person. As is the piece of music. Even being preoccupied with this or that is the Beloved. In my experience, the Beloved is all inclusive. Which

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-07 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, the flowing along of life IS the Beloved. As is another person. As is the piece of music. Even being preoccupied with this or that is the Beloved. In my experience, the Beloved is all inclusive. Which means including Bawwy.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-07 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Share Long sharelong60@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 7, 2014 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-07 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/7/2014 9:09 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: But more importantly: what is this new handle: TurquoiseBee? The Turquoise Bee: The Sixth Dalai Lama of Tibet who is reincarnated as the FFL TB - True Believer. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast!

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-07 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2014 4:09 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM   But more importantly: what is this new handle: TurquoiseBee? Is it someone making fun

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-06 Thread authfriend
@... awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 3:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re transcending is a non-event and definitely

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-06 Thread Share Long
Doc, my guess is that he was replying to this: That self-abnegation taught for centuries; the killing of desires, is inhuman, and inhumane. Why would we get to discover the ever increasing riches of the inner and outer worlds, to then deny them, in favor of some sattvic intoxication? The quote

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-05 Thread TurquoiseBee
. Fascinating how long cult indoctrination can last, isn't it?   :-) From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 3:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-04 Thread Share Long
Ann, it would be interesting to hook up to EEG apparatus some people who are blanking and compare their brain waves to people practicing TM. And just for fun, let's throw in some people practicing mindfulness! On Monday, March 3, 2014 11:46 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com

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2014-03-03 Thread Michael Jackson
, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 3, 2014, 4:37 PM

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-03 Thread Michael Jackson
. On Mon, 3/3/14, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 3, 2014, 4:43 PM

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2014-03-03 Thread doctordumbass
a similar effect On Mon, 3/3/14, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-03 Thread Michael Jackson
well it was his experience, didn't Marshy say never doubt your experiences? On Mon, 3/3/14, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

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2014-03-03 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/3/2014 10:53 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: I'd like to see a truly scientific comparison of TM versus breathing excersises with placebo. What exactly, would a TM placebo look like? Maybe you don't need to meditate or practice TM - everyone is already transcending even without a technique.

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2014-03-03 Thread Bhairitu
Placebos themselves, including medical ones, seem to work on the principle of samyama which of course medical researchers are unaware of. Shows that consciousness is very powerful and there is a strong mind over matter effect. On 03/03/2014 11:28 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 3/3/2014

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-03 Thread Bhairitu
in the short term. Some shots of whisky might have a similar effect On Mon, 3/3/14, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-03 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/3/2014 10:43 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: TM IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS IN THE LONG TERM DESPITE APPEARING TO BE RELAXING in the short term. Maybe it's time to review what we know about basic TM: Meditation means to think things over. So, TM meditation is based on thinking. Anyone who can

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-03 Thread Pundit Sir
If meditation means thinking then Transcendental Meditation suggests going beyond thinking. But meditation only means thinking in western contexts. Easterners use whatever word they use in their language for meditation in a sense closer to western ideas of contemplation. According to Charles

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-03 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/3/2014 1:50 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Love to see that tried with other mantra meditation techniques. There are no mantras or mental meditation techniques that can cause physiological change. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-03 Thread Bhairitu
Really? Most all mantras cause physiological change. Your statement happens to also throw out a lot of TM research. On 03/03/2014 04:24 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 3/3/2014 1:50 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Love to see that tried with other mantra meditation techniques. There are no mantras

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM

2014-03-03 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/3/2014 6:32 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Really? Most all mantras cause physiological change. Your statement happens to also throw out a lot of TM research. There are no double-blind scientific studies that prove the mind can alter a physical object at will. If that were possible, it would be