Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
You might consider telling us the truth about ethanol instead of sending us to Snopes for a mixed report. Ethanol is a government fraud an a rippoff. Go figure. On 12/12/2013 11:52 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: You might want to actually /read/ what Snopes has to say. Richard trolled:

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-13 Thread authfriend
Anyone who actually read the Snopes piece is now laughing their heads off at Richard and Share. A real class act, those two. ;-) Share burbled: It's good, Richard. I think it's a conspiracy to help us relinquish the need for certainty (-: On Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:13 PM,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-13 Thread authfriend
This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know. Richard trolled: It's a conspiracy by the federal government and political operatives like Al Gore to screw the public in order to prevent

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 12/13/2013 9:34 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Anyone who actually read the Snopes piece is now laughing their heads off at Richard and Share. A real class act, those two. ;-) Yeah, we're laughing our heads off, but at you not at Share. LoL! Nobody but you said that the Fox News report was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 12/13/2013 9:40 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know.* What would you know about ethanol use, if all you've done is an internet reading of Snopes?

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-13 Thread authfriend
This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know. Richard trolled: On 12/13/2013 9:34 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Anyone who actually read the Snopes piece is now

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 12/13/2013 10:33 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know. You can pretty much tell when Judy has been caught in a big mistake - that's when she whips

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-13 Thread authfriend
This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know. Richard trolled: On 12/13/2013 10:33 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 12/13/2013 1:29 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know. You can pretty much tell when Judy has been caught in a big mistake - that's when she whips

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-12 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Actually gas distributors stopped shipping 87-unleaded gasoline to Iowa recently. The only alchy free gas you can buy now is premium grade that costs about 50 cents per gallon more than the alchy blends. Buy premium for your small gasoline engines like chainsaws, snowblowers and generators and

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-12 Thread authfriend
You might want to actually read what Snopes has to say. Richard trolled: We can't even trust Snopes to tell us the truth anymore. Go figure. On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, yesterday I filled up the tank. I use 87

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-11 Thread authfriend
You've totally lost the plot here, Share. Neither the EPA nor the AAA is saying (as Fox News did in the video you posted) that E15 is safe for cars made after 2012. The issue is whether it's safe for cars made after 2001. You didn't read what Snopes.com had to say, did you? Or is it a

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-11 Thread Richard J. Williams
Well, it sure helps if you read your car owner's manual. LoL! On 12/11/2013 8:27 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Poor Ricky, of course he must surely realize that owning a motor vehicle or not has absolutely nothing to do with how much one knows about motor vehicles. The average owner can

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-11 Thread Richard J. Williams
Speak for yourself, but I've read probably a hundred owner's manuals - anyone who wants to understand their vehicle's operation can buy a Chilton's manual at Auto Zone or on Amazon. Reading an owner's manual is what intelligent people do when they buy a car. On 12/11/2013 8:46 AM,

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-11 Thread sharelong60
Hey, Richard, thanks for the link. I purchased my Honda Civic in Feb 2006 so I'll be avoiding E15, thank you very much! Also, Honda was one of the car makers listed as not honoring warranties if one uses E15! All glory to Snopes LOL.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-11 Thread authfriend
ROTFL. Obviously, Share hasn't read what Snopes has to say. http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/e15.asp http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/e15.asp It didn't occur to her to wonder where I got the information I put in my post about the warranties. Share shoots herself in the

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-11 Thread doctordumbass
You can buy a Chilton's manual to *understand* how your car works - but, unless Chilton's has improved -a lot- over the last ten years, to actually *fix* your car, you need the mfrs. service manuals.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-11 Thread Richard J. Williams
Share would probably believe her Honda Civic owner's manual before she would believe anything Snope's has to say about her vehicle. Certainly, she wouldn't believe anything you have to say about any vehicle, since you probably don't even have a driver's license or know how to drive a car,

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-11 Thread Richard J. Williams
It doesn't even take a Chilton's manual to find out if you can use ethanol in your car and what mixture. Just ask your service station guy or anyone at Pep Boys. On 12/11/2013 9:38 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: You can buy a Chilton's manual to *understand* how your car works -

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-11 Thread authfriend
Read the Snopes page too, while you're at it. Then maybe you can stop compulsively shooting yourself in the foot. Share smarmed: Richard, I really like Snopes but you're right. I'd trust my owner's manual more. Now if only I would sit down and read it!

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-11 Thread authfriend
Richard pooped: Share would probably believe her Honda Civic owner's manual before she would believe anything Snope's has to say about her vehicle. FAIL. Richard hasn't read the Snopes article either.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-10 Thread authfriend
Share snarled: Refuting Judy's sneaky lie: LOL. Share has now redefined question to mean lie if the answer isn't Yes. I'll remember that. Wish she had redefined it earlier so I could have applied it to her own questions to me. Maybe I'll go back and pick out a few... Won't that be fun,

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
Judy snarked: That you don't watch any news, however, explains even more than if you did watch Fox News. Judy is probably the TV news watcher around here - broadcast MSNBC I'd guess. Go figure. Judy is just getting hammered from all sides these days. Maybe if she shut her yap for a few

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-10 Thread authfriend
Snopes.com gives a fairly detailed presentation of the dispute, both the EPA's side and the AAA's side. It isn't clear where the 2012 date came from, but it's been in the viral scare emails that have been circulating (possibly a matter of confusion with the date the EPA approved E15, which

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-10 Thread Bhairitu
It's cars made before 2001 it might harm. Anyway the more recent article shows that the EPA is backing down. People can't afford to buy new cars like they used to and are trying to make what they have last. Or is this the corn farmers trying to solve the declining market in HFCS? I was

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-10 Thread authfriend
AAA claims it will damage cars made after 2001 as well. That's what the dispute is about; EPA says only cars made before 2001. A bunch of car makers have said using E15 will void warranties. Bhairitu wrote: It's cars made before 2001 it might harm. Anyway the more recent article shows

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-10 Thread Bhairitu
I looked in my 1998 Subaru manual and it warns of using any fuel with greater than 10% ethanol. The level for MTBE (which I believe has been discontinued) is 15%. Of course my warranty is long gone but Subarus are like the Eveready Bunny as long as you take care of them. On 12/10/2013 04:59