Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Yogi's Disciples Create Oz in Kansas'

2006-04-09 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 4/8/06 11:54:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But has 
  anything really changed in Great Britian since the TMOofficially 
  withdrew?JohnY

JohnY no, I doubt it. I'm not talking about results, just 
intentions. Maharishi believes he can pull the rug out from under a nation or a 
community by telling his TB's to either stop meditating or leave an area. He 
said on one course back in the 70's that he just might tell us one day to stop 
meditating all together and we could shake the world or some such thing to get 
the attention of governments or the people. This is what I'm referring to. Not 
actual results but intentions. I think the Great Britain thing is just a gentler 
way of doing this. He didn't actually tell anybody to stop meditating just not 
to increase it's numbers any more.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Yogi's Disciples Create Oz in Kansas'

2006-04-08 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 4/8/06 1:55:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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I smell 
  it.Within the next 6 months, MMY will announce that MUM will be moving 
  to this Kansas town.Anyone agree?

Hmmm he might like to do that, just to teach those townies a 
lesson.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Yogi's Disciples Create Oz in Kansas'

2006-04-08 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/8/06 1:54 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I smell it.
 
 Within the next 6 months, MMY will announce that MUM will be moving
 to this Kansas town.
 
 Anyone agree?

I doubt it. Very few people could afford to move. Unless he wants MUM there
without the meditating community. Even then, it would cost a fortune to
build a whole campus. Even now, MUM is investing heavily in new construction
here in Fairfield. A more interesting speculation is whether anything will
actually be built in Kansas, and if it is (unlikely), who will occupy it?




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Yogi's Disciples Create Oz in Kansas'

2006-04-08 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 4/8/06 2:26:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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I doubt 
  it. Very few people could afford to move. Unless he wants MUM therewithout 
  the meditating community. Even then, it would cost a fortune tobuild a 
  whole campus. Even now, MUM is investing heavily in new constructionhere 
  in Fairfield. A more interesting speculation is whether anything 
  willactually be built in Kansas, and if it is (unlikely), who will occupy 
  it?

I don't think these are reasons M would even consider if he 
wanted to do something like pick up and move and show the world what would 
happen if meditators left the area. I mean look what he did in England. Remember 
when he was interviewed by the press during the DC campaign and the Mississippi 
was flooding and he laughed and said it was because the sidhas had left and gone 
to DC?





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Yogi's Disciples Create Oz in Kansas'

2006-04-08 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Yogi's Disciples Create Oz in Kansas'





on 4/8/06 2:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 4/8/06 2:26:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I doubt it. Very few people could afford to move. Unless he wants MUM there
without the meditating community. Even then, it would cost a fortune to
build a whole campus. Even now, MUM is investing heavily in new construction
here in Fairfield. A more interesting speculation is whether anything will
actually be built in Kansas, and if it is (unlikely), who will occupy it?


I don't think these are reasons M would even consider if he wanted to do something like pick up and move and show the world what would happen if meditators left the area. I mean look what he did in England. Remember when he was interviewed by the press during the DC campaign and the Mississippi was flooding and he laughed and said it was because the sidhas had left and gone to DC?

Which wasnt true. It was raining like crazy for a long time before we went to the course.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Yogi's Disciples Create Oz in Kansas'

2006-04-08 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 4/8/06 3:16:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I 
don't think these are reasons M would even consider if he wanted to do 
something like pick up and move and show the world what would happen if 
meditators left the area. I mean look what he did in England. Remember when 
he was interviewed by the press during the DC campaign and the Mississippi 
was flooding and he laughed and said it was because the sidhas had left and 
gone to DC?Which wasn’t 
  true. It was raining like crazy for a long time before we went to the 
  course. 
  

The truth didn't matter to him.He still took credit for 
it.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Yogi's Disciples Create Oz in Kansas'

2006-04-08 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 4/8/06 6:44:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Hmmm he might like to do that, just to teach those townies a 
  lesson.And everyone calls the TBs 
loonies...

Well you shouldn't refer to him as a loonie since you do still 
try to get in at least one meditation a day. Just because he shut down the TMO 
in England you should feel grateful that he may only try it on a smaller and 
more localized level in the US, from one town to 
another.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Yogi's Disciples Create Oz in Kansas'

2006-04-08 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 4/8/06 6:55:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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So, if 
  Bob is right and the population of Fairfield never changed, how did the 
  TMO take over Fairfield politics? ANd how long did it 
take?

Did I say anything about 
Bob?





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Yogi's Disciples Create Oz in Kansas'

2006-04-08 Thread Sal Sunshine
No, Bob, it failed because it was a thoroughly dumb idea which would not have benefited anyone significantly, but which a number of rus who don't seem to have much of anything else to do were trying to use to, once again, stir up trouble and get the town council and anyone else they could to focus all their attention on themselves.  When that failed, they then tried to get back by not passing the SILO tax, which, happily, passed last year, despite a concerted campaign to try and make it fail.  The people running these silly campaigns sure know how to tear down what others have worked hard to create, but have pitifully few ideas on what to put in their place.

And incidentally, the one ru on the town council did nothing to my knowledge to actually try and research the subject, to find out what the actual costs vs benefits would have been.  That was left to another member, who went way out of his way to find out those things, and, AFAIK, never even got so much as a thank-you from anyone who had been pushing it.


Sal


On Apr 8, 2006, at 7:52 PM, bob_brigante wrote:

 It's called bloc voting: all the meditators backed their guy, while 
 the townies, who probably didn't much care one way or the other, since 
 turnout is low for Fairfield elections, split their votes among non-
 rus. And even with bloc voting, the mayor is really only just another 
 vote on the city council, on which rus are outnumbered (I don't recall 
 the exact numbers). The Jefferson County board of supervisors has zero 
 rus, so the political clout of rus is limited. For instance, although 
 the mayor and rus wanted the train whistle stopped, the city council 
 voted against this because it would cost too much money to do the 
 workaround with the train folks.