Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis”
I have several friends, people I thought would surely know better. It seems with MMY gone the “head guru” field is wide open. And I see once again people are granting themselves phony degrees and calling each other “dr.” Sal > On Mar 31, 2019, at 5:31 PM, feste37 wrote: > > > > I have seen someone get sucked into this "Master John" cult, and it is not > pretty. Supreme Grand Master? Oh, come on . . . > > > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : > > Book: > Supreme Grand Master John Douglas and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi: The Christ > Mission and Earth Ascension > By Dr. Susan Andersen, under guidance from the Divine Masters with a Foreword > by Dr. Christopher W. Hartnett and Dr. Linda Saint-Denis Hartnett > > Possibly more than a tax shelter church, true-believers shift to > true-believers of another. Anybody read this book? > > > From the book’s Preface: > > “By spreading his meditation to millions, he raised the collective > consciousness of earth. Only now is it becoming clear why Maharishi had this > task to prepare world consciousness for a leap in human evolution. He came to > prepare for the rise of a different civilization on earth. His was only the > first step in this world transformation. Another Master came after him with > more knowledge and healing that would lead to an ascension of earth to > another plane of existence, for this is the way a new human civilization can > arise. That Master is Supreme Grand Master John Douglas.” > > From the Foreword: > > “Maharishi Mahesh Yogi has given the world powerful techniques to transform > the individual to “know thyself”, to be orderly enough to begin to create and > exist in Heaven on Earth. Prior to his passing in February of 2008 , He > declared to His followers and disciples “My work is done.” This left many in > the temporary state of bewilderment and confusion. How could tHis work be > done and so many remain unenlightened, physically impaired and not Self of > Soul-Realized? The Vedic Knowledge He disseminated was complete and holistic > for the time. He blessed the world with the big picture, the goal, and a > vision of whom, what and where we should be, but knowledge continues, and the > demands and challenges of the new world also continue, requiring new > knowledge. > > ..Master John is here at this time to lead the “disruptive spiritual > revolution”, introduce the Angelic Reformation, discover the Truth in all > Matter, the Universal Truth beyond the humanly constructed world in which we > live. > > ..Our direct experience is that Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and the great saints of > our time have passed the baton to Master John. Maharishi created Heaven on > Earth, and the legions of Angels and Master Angels have come down and are now > amongst us.” > > From the last page.. > “..Maharishi prepared the way and told us the stories of Vedic Civilization. > Now it possible to actually manifest on earth. Supreme Grand Master John > Douglas is the reason it can be there. He comes with the Master Angels, and > he is one of them, known by his title and his cosmic role as God’s First > Angel, the Angel of Creation.” > > > https://www.amazon.de/Supreme-Master-Douglas-Maharishi-Mahesh-ebook/product-reviews/B07897FQ6K > > > The Church of John Douglas > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/434567 > > > .. > “Schismogenesis” > > > Quoting Atmore: “The idea of “schismogenesis” was first identified by Gregory > Bateson to describe the ways in which relationship between individual or > groups deteriorate. Schismogenesis occurs in several different ways: > factional schismogenesis , in which a group splinters into two or more > distinct group; apostatizing schismogenesis, in which an individual separates > from the group; symmetrical schismogenesis, in which individuals from the > group compete directly with each other, the severity of competition > increasing equally on each side; and complementary schismogenesis, in which a > rift forms between unequal partners playing the roles of dominant and > submissive. > > > Bateson treats the events involved in schismogenesis as openly recognized by > both parties. However, in my study of Fairfield, it became apparent that > schisms are not always overt and recognized by those involved in them. In > some cases, schism occur without the knowledge of one or more parties, which > I will refer to as a covert schism or overt schismogenesis. This can often > lead to overt schismogenesis (Batesons’ openly recognized schism) once the > schism has progressed to a certain point. However, this does not mean > schismogenesis is not occurring until it has become overt; there are still > social rifts forming during the covert phase. This necessitates a slight > redefinition of schismogenesis, in which the term encompasses all situations > in which rifts form between people, whether overt, covert,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis ”
Hey Sal, At last we can agree on something! How many years has that taken? We should celebrate or something. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I have several friends, people I thought would surely know better. It seems with MMY gone the “head guru” field is wide open. And I see once again people are granting themselves phony degrees and calling each other “dr.” Sal On Mar 31, 2019, at 5:31 PM, feste37 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: I have seen someone get sucked into this "Master John" cult, and it is not pretty. Supreme Grand Master? Oh, come on . . . ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Book: Supreme Grand Master John Douglas and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi: The Christ Mission and Earth Ascension By Dr. Susan Andersen, under guidance from the Divine Masters with a Foreword by Dr. Christopher W. Hartnett and Dr. Linda Saint-Denis Hartnett Possibly more than a tax shelter church, true-believers shift to true-believers of another. Anybody read this book? From the book’s Preface: “By spreading his meditation to millions, he raised the collective consciousness of earth. Only now is it becoming clear why Maharishi had this task to prepare world consciousness for a leap in human evolution. He came to prepare for the rise of a different civilization on earth. His was only the first step in this world transformation. Another Master came after him with more knowledge and healing that would lead to an ascension of earth to another plane of existence, for this is the way a new human civilization can arise. That Master is Supreme Grand Master John Douglas.” From the Foreword: “Maharishi Mahesh Yogi has given the world powerful techniques to transform the individual to “know thyself”, to be orderly enough to begin to create and exist in Heaven on Earth. Prior to his passing in February of 2008 , He declared to His followers and disciples “My work is done.” This left many in the temporary state of bewilderment and confusion. How could tHis work be done and so many remain unenlightened, physically impaired and not Self of Soul-Realized? The Vedic Knowledge He disseminated was complete and holistic for the time. He blessed the world with the big picture, the goal, and a vision of whom, what and where we should be, but knowledge continues, and the demands and challenges of the new world also continue, requiring new knowledge. ..Master John is here at this time to lead the “disruptive spiritual revolution”, introduce the Angelic Reformation, discover the Truth in all Matter, the Universal Truth beyond the humanly constructed world in which we live. ..Our direct experience is that Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and the great saints of our time have passed the baton to Master John. Maharishi created Heaven on Earth, and the legions of Angels and Master Angels have come down and are now amongst us.” From the last page.. “..Maharishi prepared the way and told us the stories of Vedic Civilization. Now it possible to actually manifest on earth. Supreme Grand Master John Douglas is the reason it can be there. He comes with the Master Angels, and he is one of them, known by his title and his cosmic role as God’s First Angel, the Angel of Creation.” https://www.amazon.de/Supreme-Master-Douglas-Maharishi-Mahesh-ebook/product-reviews/B07897FQ6K https://www.amazon.de/Supreme-Master-Douglas-Maharishi-Mahesh-ebook/product-reviews/B07897FQ6K The Church of John Douglas https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/434567 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/434567 .. “Schismogenesis” Quoting Atmore: “The idea of “schismogenesis” was first identified by Gregory Bateson to describe the ways in which relationship between individual or groups deteriorate. Schismogenesis occurs in several different ways: factional schismogenesis , in which a group splinters into two or more distinct group; apostatizing schismogenesis, in which an individual separates from the group; symmetrical schismogenesis, in which individuals from the group compete directly with each other, the severity of competition increasing equally on each side; and complementary schismogenesis, in which a rift forms between unequal partners playing the roles of dominant and submissive. Bateson treats the events involved in schismogenesis as openly recognized by both parties. However, in my study of Fairfield, it became apparent that schisms are not always overt and recognized by those involved in them. In some cases, schism occur without the knowledge of one or more parties, which I will refer to as a covert schism or overt schismogenesis. This can often lead to overt schismogenesis (Batesons’ openly recognized schism) once the schism has progressed to a certain point. However, this does not mean schismogenesis is not occurring until it has
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis ”
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I have several friends, people I thought would surely know better. It seems with MMY gone the “head guru” field is wide open. And I see once again people are granting themselves phony degrees and calling each other “dr.” Sal On Mar 31, 2019, at 5:31 PM, feste37 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: I have seen someone get sucked into this "Master John" cult, and it is not pretty. Supreme Grand Master? Oh, come on . . . ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Book: Supreme Grand Master John Douglas and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi: The Christ Mission and Earth Ascension By Dr. Susan Andersen, under guidance from the Divine Masters with a Foreword by Dr. Christopher W. Hartnett and Dr. Linda Saint-Denis Hartnett Possibly more than a tax shelter church, true-believers shift to true-believers of another. Anybody read this book? From the book’s Preface: “By spreading his meditation to millions, he raised the collective consciousness of earth. Only now is it becoming clear why Maharishi had this task to prepare world consciousness for a leap in human evolution. He came to prepare for the rise of a different civilization on earth. His was only the first step in this world transformation. Another Master came after him with more knowledge and healing that would lead to an ascension of earth to another plane of existence, for this is the way a new human civilization can arise. That Master is Supreme Grand Master John Douglas.” From the Foreword: “Maharishi Mahesh Yogi has given the world powerful techniques to transform the individual to “know thyself”, to be orderly enough to begin to create and exist in Heaven on Earth. Prior to his passing in February of 2008 , He declared to His followers and disciples “My work is done.” This left many in the temporary state of bewilderment and confusion. How could tHis work be done and so many remain unenlightened, physically impaired and not Self of Soul-Realized? The Vedic Knowledge He disseminated was complete and holistic for the time. He blessed the world with the big picture, the goal, and a vision of whom, what and where we should be, but knowledge continues, and the demands and challenges of the new world also continue, requiring new knowledge. ..Master John is here at this time to lead the “disruptive spiritual revolution”, introduce the Angelic Reformation, discover the Truth in all Matter, the Universal Truth beyond the humanly constructed world in which we live. ..Our direct experience is that Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and the great saints of our time have passed the baton to Master John. Maharishi created Heaven on Earth, and the legions of Angels and Master Angels have come down and are now amongst us.” From the last page.. “..Maharishi prepared the way and told us the stories of Vedic Civilization. Now it possible to actually manifest on earth. Supreme Grand Master John Douglas is the reason it can be there. He comes with the Master Angels, and he is one of them, known by his title and his cosmic role as God’s First Angel, the Angel of Creation.” https://www.amazon.de/Supreme-Master-Douglas-Maharishi-Mahesh-ebook/product-reviews/B07897FQ6K https://www.amazon.de/Supreme-Master-Douglas-Maharishi-Mahesh-ebook/product-reviews/B07897FQ6K The Church of John Douglas https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/434567 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/434567 .. “Schismogenesis” Quoting Atmore: “The idea of “schismogenesis” was first identified by Gregory Bateson to describe the ways in which relationship between individual or groups deteriorate. Schismogenesis occurs in several different ways: factional schismogenesis , in which a group splinters into two or more distinct group; apostatizing schismogenesis, in which an individual separates from the group; symmetrical schismogenesis, in which individuals from the group compete directly with each other, the severity of competition increasing equally on each side; and complementary schismogenesis, in which a rift forms between unequal partners playing the roles of dominant and submissive. Bateson treats the events involved in schismogenesis as openly recognized by both parties. However, in my study of Fairfield, it became apparent that schisms are not always overt and recognized by those involved in them. In some cases, schism occur without the knowledge of one or more parties, which I will refer to as a covert schism or overt schismogenesis. This can often lead to overt schismogenesis (Batesons’ openly recognized schism) once the schism has progressed to a certain point. However, this does not mean schismogenesis is not occurring until it has become overt; there are still social rifts forming during the covert phase. This necessitates a slight redef
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis ”
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I have several friends, people I thought would surely know better. It seems with MMY gone the “head guru” field is wide open. And I see once again people are granting themselves phony degrees and calling each other “dr.” Sal On Mar 31, 2019, at 5:31 PM, feste37 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: I have seen someone get sucked into this "Master John" cult, and it is not pretty. Supreme Grand Master? Oh, come on . . . ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Book: Supreme Grand Master John Douglas and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi: The Christ Mission and Earth Ascension By Dr. Susan Andersen, under guidance from the Divine Masters with a Foreword by Dr. Christopher W. Hartnett and Dr. Linda Saint-Denis Hartnett Possibly more than a tax shelter church, true-believers shift to true-believers of another. Anybody read this book? From the book’s Preface: “By spreading his meditation to millions, he raised the collective consciousness of earth. Only now is it becoming clear why Maharishi had this task to prepare world consciousness for a leap in human evolution. He came to prepare for the rise of a different civilization on earth. His was only the first step in this world transformation. Another Master came after him with more knowledge and healing that would lead to an ascension of earth to another plane of existence, for this is the way a new human civilization can arise. That Master is Supreme Grand Master John Douglas.” From the Foreword: “Maharishi Mahesh Yogi has given the world powerful techniques to transform the individual to “know thyself”, to be orderly enough to begin to create and exist in Heaven on Earth. Prior to his passing in February of 2008 , He declared to His followers and disciples “My work is done.” This left many in the temporary state of bewilderment and confusion. How could tHis work be done and so many remain unenlightened, physically impaired and not Self of Soul-Realized? The Vedic Knowledge He disseminated was complete and holistic for the time. He blessed the world with the big picture, the goal, and a vision of whom, what and where we should be, but knowledge continues, and the demands and challenges of the new world also continue, requiring new knowledge. ..Master John is here at this time to lead the “disruptive spiritual revolution”, introduce the Angelic Reformation, discover the Truth in all Matter, the Universal Truth beyond the humanly constructed world in which we live. ..Our direct experience is that Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and the great saints of our time have passed the baton to Master John. Maharishi created Heaven on Earth, and the legions of Angels and Master Angels have come down and are now amongst us.” From the last page.. “..Maharishi prepared the way and told us the stories of Vedic Civilization. Now it possible to actually manifest on earth. Supreme Grand Master John Douglas is the reason it can be there. He comes with the Master Angels, and he is one of them, known by his title and his cosmic role as God’s First Angel, the Angel of Creation.” https://www.amazon.de/Supreme-Master-Douglas-Maharishi-Mahesh-ebook/product-reviews/B07897FQ6K https://www.amazon.de/Supreme-Master-Douglas-Maharishi-Mahesh-ebook/product-reviews/B07897FQ6K The Church of John Douglas https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/434567 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/434567 .. “Schismogenesis” Quoting Atmore: “The idea of “schismogenesis” was first identified by Gregory Bateson to describe the ways in which relationship between individual or groups deteriorate. Schismogenesis occurs in several different ways: factional schismogenesis , in which a group splinters into two or more distinct group; apostatizing schismogenesis, in which an individual separates from the group; symmetrical schismogenesis, in which individuals from the group compete directly with each other, the severity of competition increasing equally on each side; and complementary schismogenesis, in which a rift forms between unequal partners playing the roles of dominant and submissive. Bateson treats the events involved in schismogenesis as openly recognized by both parties. However, in my study of Fairfield, it became apparent that schisms are not always overt and recognized by those involved in them. In some cases, schism occur without the knowledge of one or more parties, which I will refer to as a covert schism or overt schismogenesis. This can often lead to overt schismogenesis (Batesons’ openly recognized schism) once the schism has progressed to a certain point. However, this does not mean schismogenesis is not occurring until it has become overt; there are still social rifts forming during the covert phase. This necessitates a slight redef
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Take a look at this, it’ll look very familiar: https://masterangels.org/ As will the prices. You can buy a General Admission Ticket (lol) to one of his intro courses for the low, low price of $250 for the day. Or, if you want to meet with the Master himself, a “Golden Pass” is the way to go, (Is it just me or does that sound a little obscene) for a mere $3250 you can get 4 sessions, 2 in person and 2 “remote silent-faith” healings. A steal I’m sure. Can’t meet in person? No problem! Master John has you covered, you can buy a Spring 2019 Regular Dial-In Pass—yes, this is really what they call it—for a tiny little donation of $2000. And on and on, jhfc what a racket. Sal > On Mar 31, 2019, at 7:15 PM, feste37 wrote: > > > > Hey Sal, At last we can agree on something! How many years has that taken? We > should celebrate or something. > > > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : > > I have several friends, people I thought would surely know better. It seems > with MMY gone the “head guru” field is wide open. > > And I see once again people are granting themselves phony degrees and calling > each other “dr.” > > Sal > > >> On Mar 31, 2019, at 5:31 PM, feste37 wrote: >> >> I have seen someone get sucked into this "Master John" cult, and it is not >> pretty. Supreme Grand Master? Oh, come on . . . >> >> >> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : >> >> Book: >> Supreme Grand Master John Douglas and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi: The Christ >> Mission and Earth Ascension >> By Dr. Susan Andersen, under guidance from the Divine Masters with a >> Foreword by Dr. Christopher W. Hartnett and Dr. Linda Saint-Denis Hartnett >> >> Possibly more than a tax shelter church, true-believers shift to >> true-believers of another. Anybody read this book? >> >> >> From the book’s Preface: >> >> “By spreading his meditation to millions, he raised the collective >> consciousness of earth. Only now is it becoming clear why Maharishi had this >> task to prepare world consciousness for a leap in human evolution. He came >> to prepare for the rise of a different civilization on earth. His was only >> the first step in this world transformation. Another Master came after him >> with more knowledge and healing that would lead to an ascension of earth to >> another plane of existence, for this is the way a new human civilization can >> arise. That Master is Supreme Grand Master John Douglas.” >> >> From the Foreword: >> >> “Maharishi Mahesh Yogi has given the world powerful techniques to transform >> the individual to “know thyself”, to be orderly enough to begin to create >> and exist in Heaven on Earth. Prior to his passing in February of 2008 , He >> declared to His followers and disciples “My work is done.” This left many in >> the temporary state of bewilderment and confusion. How could tHis work be >> done and so many remain unenlightened, physically impaired and not Self of >> Soul-Realized? The Vedic Knowledge He disseminated was complete and >> holistic for the time. He blessed the world with the big picture, the goal, >> and a vision of whom, what and where we should be, but knowledge continues, >> and the demands and challenges of the new world also continue, requiring new >> knowledge. >> >> ..Master John is here at this time to lead the “disruptive spiritual >> revolution”, introduce the Angelic Reformation, discover the Truth in all >> Matter, the Universal Truth beyond the humanly constructed world in which we >> live. >> >> ..Our direct experience is that Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and the great saints >> of our time have passed the baton to Master John. Maharishi created Heaven >> on Earth, and the legions of Angels and Master Angels have come down and are >> now amongst us.” >> >> From the last page.. >> “..Maharishi prepared the way and told us the stories of Vedic Civilization. >> Now it possible to actually manifest on earth. Supreme Grand Master John >> Douglas is the reason it can be there. He comes with the Master Angels, and >> he is one of them, known by his title and his cosmic role as God’s First >> Angel, the Angel of Creation.” >> >> >> https://www.amazon.de/Supreme-Master-Douglas-Maharishi-Mahesh-ebook/product-reviews/B07897FQ6K >> >> >> The Church of John Douglas >> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/434567 >> >> >> .. >> “Schismogenesis” >> >> >> Quoting Atmore: “The idea of “schismogenesis” was first identified by >> Gregory Bateson to describe the ways in which relationship between >> individual or groups deteriorate. Schismogenesis occurs in several different >> ways: factional schismogenesis , in which a group splinters into two or more >> distinct group; apostatizing schismogenesis, in which an individual >> separates from the group; symmetrical schismogenesis, in which individuals >> from the group compete directly with each other, the severity of competi
