Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another take on life in glorious Austin, Texas, USA

2013-12-21 Thread Share Long
noozguru, last year you mentioned that your birthday was a few days after 
turq's so happy birthday whenever! Hope you're having fun with your visiting 
friends.





On Friday, December 20, 2013 4:11 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
  
There are plenty of degreed folks including ones with MAs and Phds who can't 
find work even in the well paying STEM fields.  Many of those jobs have been 
outsourced. And grads from college wind up in no paying intern jobs.

Agreed that minimum wage jobs weren't meant to be careers.  Those
  were for high school and college folks for some extra cash.  Much
  of this is the unintended consequences of the housing boom and
  bust.  It's thrown everything out of whack and should have NEVER
  occurred.

My tune about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaXgXf1bVXs


On 12/20/2013 01:50 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:

  
Let's see, she works about five hours a day and can't live on what she makes. 
Go to a community college, take some courses in something that will pay better 
and get a better job. Jobs like she has had for so long are usually considered 
entree level jobs and usually don't pay much. You get some work experience 
there, build a resume and go on to bigger and better things. Now, people want 
to be able to retire from McDonald's as a burger flipper after thirty years 
and have a 100% pension after putting all your kids through college and paying 
off the mortgage. I have to agree with Bhairtu for once, inflation if the 
culprit.



On Friday, December 20, 2013 1:13 PM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:

 In discussions about the minimum
  wage on liberal talk boards I find 
 myself in disagreement with my
  peers. I say the problem is not the 
 minimum wage but inflation. Like
  Richard sez: the rent is too damn 
 high. I don't think raising the
  minimum wage is going to solve the 
 problem. In San Francisco they
  are proposing raising the minimum wage 
 to $15 an hour. Don't pack your
  bags yet, because rent there is way
  off 
 the charts.
 
 Welcome to American Austerity.

I actually wrote, in my original version of this post, as a kind of teaser 
line before the URL, Welcome to your future, America. 

Then I deleted it, because I
figured FFLers and TMers (not to
mention Americans in general)
wouldn't be able to handle that.
Thanks for breaking the ice so I
didn't have to. 

 On 12/20/2013 12:21 PM,
  TurquoiseB wrote:
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another take on life in glorious Austin, Texas, USA

2013-12-21 Thread Bhairitu
Thanks.  Oh yeah, that birthday thang that keeps popping up ever so once 
in a while.  I left my friends to their own devices, quite literally.  
These are folks who though are techies themselves told me four years ago 
when I got an Android phone they didn't feel they had any need for one.  
They've gone through more models than I have and currently have Samsung 
Note phones along with who knows how many laptops.  They left yesterday 
to spend Christmas will relatives a little further north.  So their big 
RV is gone from in front of my house.


On 12/21/2013 07:56 AM, Share Long wrote:
noozguru, last year you mentioned that your birthday was a few days 
after turq's so happy birthday whenever! Hope you're having fun with 
your visiting friends.




On Friday, December 20, 2013 4:11 PM, Bhairitu 
noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
There are plenty of degreed folks including ones with MAs and Phds who 
can't find work even in the well paying STEM fields.  Many of those 
jobs have been outsourced. And grads from college wind up in no 
paying intern jobs.


Agreed that minimum wage jobs weren't meant to be careers. Those were 
for high school and college folks for some extra cash.  Much of this 
is the unintended consequences of the housing boom and bust.  It's 
thrown everything out of whack and should have NEVER occurred.


My tune about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaXgXf1bVXs


On 12/20/2013 01:50 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
Let's see, she works about five hours a day and can't live on what 
she makes. Go to a community college, take some courses in something 
that will pay better and get a better job. Jobs like she has had for 
so long are usually considered entree level jobs and usually don't 
pay much. You get some work experience there, build a resume and go 
on to bigger and better things. Now, people want to be able to retire 
from McDonald's as a burger flipper after thirty years and have a 
100% pension after putting all your kids through college and paying 
off the mortgage. I have to agree with Bhairtu for once, inflation if 
the culprit.



On Friday, December 20, 2013 1:13 PM, TurquoiseB 
turquoi...@yahoo.com mailto:turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:


 In discussions about the minimum wage on liberal talk boards I find
 myself in disagreement with my peers. I say the problem is not the
 minimum wage but inflation. Like Richard sez: the rent is too damn
 high. I don't think raising the minimum wage is going to solve the
 problem. In San Francisco they are proposing raising the minimum wage
 to $15 an hour. Don't pack your bags yet, because rent there is way 
off

 the charts.

 Welcome to American Austerity.

*/I actually wrote, in my original version of this post, as a kind of 
teaser line before the URL, Welcome to your future, America.


Then I deleted it, because I figured FFLers and TMers (not to mention 
Americans in general) wouldn't be able to handle that. Thanks for 
breaking the ice so I didn't have to. /*


 On 12/20/2013 12:21 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
  */
  
/**/http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/18/bernadette-feazell_n_4469116.html /* 


 
 
 
 
 












Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another take on life in glorious Austin, Texas, USA

2013-12-20 Thread Mike Dixon
Let's see, she works about five hours a day and can't live on what she makes. 
Go to a community college, take some courses in something that will pay better 
and get a better job. Jobs like she has had for so long are usually considered 
entree level jobs and usually don't pay much. You get some work experience 
there, build a resume and go on to bigger and better things. Now, people want 
to be able to retire from McDonald's as a burger flipper after thirty years and 
have a 100% pension after putting all your kids through college and paying off 
the mortgage. I have to agree with Bhairtu for once, inflation if the culprit.




On Friday, December 20, 2013 1:13 PM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote:
  
  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:

 In discussions about the minimum wage on liberal talk boards I find 
 myself in disagreement with my peers.  I say the problem is not the 
 minimum wage but inflation. Like Richard sez: the rent is too damn 
 high.  I don't think raising the minimum wage is going to solve the 
 problem.  In San Francisco they are proposing raising the minimum wage 
 to $15 an hour.  Don't pack your bags yet, because rent there is way off 
 the charts.
 
 Welcome to American Austerity.

I actually wrote, in my original version of this post, as a kind of teaser 
line before the URL, Welcome to your future, America. 

Then I deleted it, because I figured FFLers and TMers (not to mention Americans 
in general) wouldn't be able to handle that. Thanks for breaking the ice so I 
didn't have to. 

 On 12/20/2013 12:21 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
  */
  /**/http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/18/bernadette-feazell_n_4469116.html
   /* 
 
 
 
 
 

  
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another take on life in glorious Austin, Texas, USA

2013-12-20 Thread Bhairitu
There are plenty of degreed folks including ones with MAs and Phds who 
can't find work even in the well paying STEM fields.  Many of those jobs 
have been outsourced. And grads from college wind up in no paying 
intern jobs.


Agreed that minimum wage jobs weren't meant to be careers.  Those were 
for high school and college folks for some extra cash.  Much of this is 
the unintended consequences of the housing boom and bust.  It's thrown 
everything out of whack and should have NEVER occurred.


My tune about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaXgXf1bVXs


On 12/20/2013 01:50 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
Let's see, she works about five hours a day and can't live on what she 
makes. Go to a community college, take some courses in something that 
will pay better and get a better job. Jobs like she has had for so 
long are usually considered entree level jobs and usually don't pay 
much. You get some work experience there, build a resume and go on to 
bigger and better things. Now, people want to be able to retire from 
McDonald's as a burger flipper after thirty years and have a 100% 
pension after putting all your kids through college and paying off the 
mortgage. I have to agree with Bhairtu for once, inflation if the culprit.



On Friday, December 20, 2013 1:13 PM, TurquoiseB 
turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:

 In discussions about the minimum wage on liberal talk boards I find
 myself in disagreement with my peers. I say the problem is not the
 minimum wage but inflation. Like Richard sez: the rent is too damn
 high. I don't think raising the minimum wage is going to solve the
 problem. In San Francisco they are proposing raising the minimum wage
 to $15 an hour. Don't pack your bags yet, because rent there is way off
 the charts.

 Welcome to American Austerity.

*/I actually wrote, in my original version of this post, as a kind of 
teaser line before the URL, Welcome to your future, America.


Then I deleted it, because I figured FFLers and TMers (not to mention 
Americans in general) wouldn't be able to handle that. Thanks for 
breaking the ice so I didn't have to. /*


 On 12/20/2013 12:21 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
  */
  
/**/http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/18/bernadette-feazell_n_4469116.html /* 


 
 
 
 
 








Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another take on life in glorious Austin, Texas, USA

2013-12-20 Thread Mike Dixon
It also depends on what the degree is in. A PHD in underwater basket weaving 
probably won't have much value but an associates degree in a computer field or 
medical field could net a job quickly. Finding training in what is in demand 
would definitely be a wise move.




On Friday, December 20, 2013 2:11 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
  
  
There are plenty of degreed folks including ones with MAs and Phds who can't 
find work even in the well paying STEM fields.  Many of those jobs have been 
outsourced. And grads from college wind up in no paying intern jobs.

Agreed that minimum wage jobs weren't meant to be careers.  Those
  were for high school and college folks for some extra cash.  Much
  of this is the unintended consequences of the housing boom and
  bust.  It's thrown everything out of whack and should have NEVER
  occurred.

My tune about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaXgXf1bVXs


On 12/20/2013 01:50 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
 
  
Let's see, she works about five hours a day and can't live on what she makes. 
Go to a community college, take some courses in something that will pay better 
and get a better job. Jobs like she has had for so long are usually considered 
entree level jobs and usually don't pay much. You get some work experience 
there, build a resume and go on to bigger and better things. Now, people want 
to be able to retire from McDonald's as a burger flipper after thirty years 
and have a 100% pension after putting all your kids through college and paying 
off the mortgage. I have to agree with Bhairtu for once, inflation if the 
culprit. 



On Friday, December 20, 2013 1:13 PM, TurquoiseB mailto:turquoi...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
  
  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:

 In discussions about the minimum
  wage on liberal talk boards I find 
 myself in disagreement with my
  peers. I say the problem is not the 
 minimum wage but inflation. Like
  Richard sez: the rent is too damn 
 high. I don't think raising the
  minimum wage is going to solve the 
 problem. In San Francisco they
  are proposing raising the minimum wage 
 to $15 an hour. Don't pack your
  bags yet, because rent there is way
  off 
 the charts.
 
 Welcome to American Austerity.

I actually wrote, in my original version of this post, as a kind of teaser 
line before the URL, Welcome to your future, America. 

Then I deleted it, because I
figured FFLers and TMers (not to
mention Americans in general)
wouldn't be able to handle that.
Thanks for breaking the ice so I
didn't have to. 

 On 12/20/2013 12:21 PM,
  TurquoiseB wrote:
  */
  /**/http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/18/bernadette-feazell_n_4469116.html
   /* 
 
 
 
 
 

 


 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another take on life in glorious Austin, Texas, USA

2013-12-20 Thread Bhairitu
The real problem is there isn't that much work that needs to be done so 
there aren't enough jobs out there.  FYI, STEM = Scientific, Technology, 
Engineering and Mathematics fields.  So if they can't find work: 
Houston we have a problem.


Also if you aren't really interested in an in demand field you will be 
lousy at and unlikely to find work even with training. They filter 
rather intensely these days.


It's like they want a lot of the population to crawl away and die.  I 
say let's crawl away, group up and ATTACK!


On 12/20/2013 02:39 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
It also depends on what the degree is in. A PHD in underwater basket 
weaving probably won't have much value but an associates degree in a 
computer field or medical field could net a job quickly. Finding 
training in what is in demand would definitely be a wise move.



On Friday, December 20, 2013 2:11 PM, Bhairitu 
noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
There are plenty of degreed folks including ones with MAs and Phds who 
can't find work even in the well paying STEM fields.  Many of those 
jobs have been outsourced. And grads from college wind up in no 
paying intern jobs.


Agreed that minimum wage jobs weren't meant to be careers.  Those were 
for high school and college folks for some extra cash.  Much of this 
is the unintended consequences of the housing boom and bust.  It's 
thrown everything out of whack and should have NEVER occurred.


My tune about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaXgXf1bVXs


On 12/20/2013 01:50 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
Let's see, she works about five hours a day and can't live on what 
she makes. Go to a community college, take some courses in something 
that will pay better and get a better job. Jobs like she has had for 
so long are usually considered entree level jobs and usually don't 
pay much. You get some work experience there, build a resume and go 
on to bigger and better things. Now, people want to be able to retire 
from McDonald's as a burger flipper after thirty years and have a 
100% pension after putting all your kids through college and paying 
off the mortgage. I have to agree with Bhairtu for once, inflation if 
the culprit.



On Friday, December 20, 2013 1:13 PM, TurquoiseB 
mailto:turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:


 In discussions about the minimum wage on liberal talk boards I find
 myself in disagreement with my peers. I say the problem is not the
 minimum wage but inflation. Like Richard sez: the rent is too damn
 high. I don't think raising the minimum wage is going to solve the
 problem. In San Francisco they are proposing raising the minimum wage
 to $15 an hour. Don't pack your bags yet, because rent there is way 
off

 the charts.

 Welcome to American Austerity.

*/I actually wrote, in my original version of this post, as a kind of 
teaser line before the URL, Welcome to your future, America.


Then I deleted it, because I figured FFLers and TMers (not to mention 
Americans in general) wouldn't be able to handle that. Thanks for 
breaking the ice so I didn't have to. /*


 On 12/20/2013 12:21 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
  */
  
/**/http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/18/bernadette-feazell_n_4469116.html /* 


 
 
 
 
 












Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another take on life in glorious Austin, Texas, USA

2013-12-20 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 12/20/2013 4:57 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
 I say let's crawl away, group up and ATTACK!
Attack with what?