Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Because some here seem to like him...

2014-11-09 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
I don't think the JR wants to deal with yoga or eastern mysticism. I 
know that in the magician community there is still some wonder about 
some unexplained tricks of some Indian magicians.  He may actually 
understand that some of these things are based on the manipulation of 
physics, the kind not yet understood.  OTOH, JR does have a bit of a 
narcissistic personality.


On 11/09/2014 12:24 AM, salyavin808 wrote:



Thanks for that. I didn't know that JR offered his million dollar 
challenge to the fraudster selling magical explosive detectors to Iraq 
in the hope of exposing the rather obvious fraud. I remember hearing 
that the government had given an export license for these things and 
thought the world must, finally, have gone completely and hopelessly mad.


I didn't know he actually invited people to try out for the chance to 
win the cash, he should challenge the TMO to prove that yagya's work 
so that people can stop wasting their money on them when the 
experiment draws a blank. Unless it doesn't! LOL.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Because some here seem to like him...

2014-11-09 Thread salyavin808

 

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 I don't think the JR wants to deal with yoga or eastern mysticism. I know that 
in the magician community there is still some wonder about some unexplained 
tricks of some Indian magicians.  He may actually understand that some of 
these things are based on the manipulation of physics, the kind not yet 
understood.  
 

 I'd say I'll believe it when I see it but making sure I don't is what magic is 
all about. I don't believe there are unknown laws of physics that can be 
manipulated when the ones we do know about can't.
 

 But I'd really love to see a trick based on things that don't use any 
currently known physical laws, it would sure beat levitation or the Indian rope 
trick or sawing people in half. 
 

 I know some guys who went to an Indian village and there was a magic fair and 
they reported amazing things - until some locals objected to westerners being 
present and chased them out of town. Was any of it beyond the ability of Randi 
or Derren Brown? I bet if even a few people thought it was they'd have 
incorporated it into their act already. Maybe they have, Derren is amazing.
 

 I saw Doug Henning make an elephant disappear. That was cool, he was sitting 
on it at the time. One swish of a rather large cloak later and he was on the 
stage on his own! I bet it wasn't up his sleeve...
 

 I saw Paul Daniels make a tiger appear inside an empty box on castors on a 
lighted stage, that wasn't up his sleeve either. Damn clever stuff but if 
someone is kidding you that what they do is beyond the laws of physics then 
that's probably part of the act. 
 

 I've seen shows that give bits of it away, and the best way to explain magic 
is that people are being fooled into thinking that something really difficult 
is going on. That's the trick. The harder they think it is the easier it is to 
exploit that - apparently! Watching the pretty but apparently gormless 
assistant(s) is the best way of working out the rest of it, most of the time 
they do all the work. Misdirection and exploiting people's willingness to 
believe. We've all got that, I love a good magic show.
 

 But I've been looking an Youtube and wiki for anything that might be an 
example of Indian magic that is unexplainable but have drawn a blank. And if I 
can't see it, a seasoned pro like JR won't have any trouble. But we all convert 
for evidence.
 

 

 

 

 

 OTOH, JR does have a bit of a narcissistic personality.
 
 On 11/09/2014 12:24 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
 
   

 Thanks for that. I didn't know that JR offered his million dollar challenge to 
the fraudster selling magical explosive detectors to Iraq in the hope of 
exposing the rather obvious fraud. I remember hearing that the government had 
given an export license for these things and thought the world must, finally, 
have gone completely and hopelessly mad.
 
 
 I didn't know he actually invited people to try out for the chance to win the 
cash, he should challenge the TMO to prove that yagya's work so that people can 
stop wasting their money on them when the experiment draws a blank. Unless it 
doesn't! LOL.
 
 
 
 
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