RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-08 Thread Richard Hughes



From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh 
Yogi
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 23:15:43 -

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard Hughes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  From: markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Well your friend is clearly just unstressing and should stop
spreading
  these negative rumors.
  
  Besides the scriptures state that one man attaining Brahman
spreads
  enlighenment throughout his family, so clearly Maharishi's
nephews are
  also enjoying a high degree of enlightenment which means their
actions
  are spontaneously in tune with All the Laws of Nature, the Will of
  God, which means there's nothing wrong with their so-called wild
  parties.  Are you enlightened Rick??  Who are you to judge them??
  
  They clearly need fancy mansions and cars in order to entertain
Indian
  Gov't Dignitaries who are key to establishing large pundit groups
who
  will bring on Sat Yuga for all mankind, so who cares about their
  apparent lavish lifestyles considering their larger purpose??
  
  Besides, you should stay focused on King Nadar Ram and the Rajas,
not
  the nephews who have the real power, otherwise the CIA will get
after
  them and ruin humanity's only hope for a problem free life.
 
 
  Is this irony or the usual true believer kidology? I can't
  tell anymore

I noticed that, too.


Perhaps I'm too subtle




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-08 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/8/06 1:46 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 In the name of demystification, the nephews?
 
 Who are they? 
 
 A list of names, ages and links to photos would be a good start.

One of them is Girish Shrivastava. His photo is here:
http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/browse/328a?c=




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-08 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/8/06 4:18 PM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 One of them is Girish Shrivastava. His photo is here:
 http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/browse/328a?c=
 
 
 Interesting. Nice touch with the photo of himself where his head is
 positioned slightly above MMY's.
 
 Any spiritual credentials?

Maharishi's nephew?
 
 WHo are the two white yes-men on his sides?
 
 Just another two clueless TM-Governors?

A couple of Russian Governors who were visiting and wanted a photo op.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-08 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/8/06 5:31 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 One of them is Girish Shrivastava. His photo is here:
 
 http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/browse/328a?c=
 
 
 Interesting. Nice touch with the photo of himself where his head is
 positioned slightly above MMY's.
 
 
 
 I find it very unusual that he would deem to put a photo of himself -
 - same size -- right beside MMY's.

That is odd. AFAIK, that's his office. Funny to have a big photo of oneself
in one's office, Maharishi or no Maharishi.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/6/06 11:51 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [...]
 No organization  connected with TM has ever done anything geared
 toward improving the financial well being of anyone other than
 themselves. What makes you think this would be any different. It's
 always been business for profit. Any financial gain to anyone else has
 always been incidential to organiztional profit as far a I have ever
 seen.
 
 
 This may be the case, but they've always been upfront about it.

You mean about the $millions$ that have been skimmed by Maharishi's nephews
running the Indian TMO, to build their fancy mansions, buy their fancy cars,
and finance their wild all-night parties?




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/7/06 9:54 AM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 on 4/6/06 11:51 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@
 [...]
 No organization  connected with TM has ever done anything geared
 toward improving the financial well being of anyone other than
 themselves. What makes you think this would be any different. It's
 always been business for profit. Any financial gain to anyone
 else has
 always been incidential to organiztional profit as far a I have ever
 seen.
 
 
 This may be the case, but they've always been upfront about it.
 
 You mean about the $millions$ that have been skimmed by Maharishi's
 nephews
 running the Indian TMO, to build their fancy mansions, buy their
 fancy cars,
 and finance their wild all-night parties?
 
 Obviously you're referring to Shivaratri in which devout hindus stay
 up all night participating in ecstatic pujas to shiva

'Fraid not. These Srivastavas know how to party.




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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Richard Hughes



From: markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh 
Yogi
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:28:04 -

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 
  on 4/7/06 10:33 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   You mean about the $millions$ that have been skimmed by Maharishi's
   nephews
   running the Indian TMO, to build their fancy mansions, buy their
   fancy cars,
   and finance their wild all-night parties?
  
  
   Is that what they do?
 
  Yes. I was reminded of this the other day by a friend who just came back
  from India.

Well your friend is clearly just unstressing and should stop spreading
these negative rumors.

Besides the scriptures state that one man attaining Brahman spreads
enlighenment throughout his family, so clearly Maharishi's nephews are
also enjoying a high degree of enlightenment which means their actions
are spontaneously in tune with All the Laws of Nature, the Will of
God, which means there's nothing wrong with their so-called wild
parties.  Are you enlightened Rick??  Who are you to judge them??

They clearly need fancy mansions and cars in order to entertain Indian
Gov't Dignitaries who are key to establishing large pundit groups who
will bring on Sat Yuga for all mankind, so who cares about their
apparent lavish lifestyles considering their larger purpose??

Besides, you should stay focused on King Nadar Ram and the Rajas, not
the nephews who have the real power, otherwise the CIA will get after
them and ruin humanity's only hope for a problem free life.





Is this irony or the usual true believer kidology? I can't tell anymore










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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/7/06 11:52 AM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 on 4/7/06 10:33 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 You mean about the $millions$ that have been skimmed by Maharishi's
 nephews
 running the Indian TMO, to build their fancy mansions, buy their
 fancy cars,
 and finance their wild all-night parties?
 
 
 Is that what they do?
 
 Yes. I was reminded of this the other day by a friend who just came back
 from India.
 
 
 Any new details? 

The wild parties were new to me.

 How accurate do you think?

Trusted source. And he said the Srivastava's reputation for this is
well-known.

 Is the TMO level of graft any
 worse than all 
 the other organizations, or just bigger because it has more money?

Probably worse than most, better than some if we put it on a spectrum. Maybe
the more money there is, the worse the temptation, or the easier it is to
skim off large amounts.

Sigh.  
 After all these 
 years, why doesn't MMY have someone step in and say enough, clean up the books
 and 
 money. 

Not sure he has the power to do that. My theory is that the nephews have
been blackmailing him, but that's just a theory.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi





on 4/7/06 1:34 PM, Jason Spock at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Would the Nephews bite the hand that feeds them. 

I think theyve got each other by the balls. It could go like this:
Nephews: Weve got some dirt on you MMY. Keep sending money or well divulge it.
MMY: Yeah, well you aint exactly squeaky-clean yourselves. Do something demonstrable with at least some of that money or I wont be able to raise more to send you. And besides, I really do want to help the world.
Nephews: Deal.

Maharishi also protects them from Tax-raids. 

How does he do that? Who protects him?

Without Maharishi they would have lot of problems.

Kindly explain what you think will happen when he dies.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi





on 4/7/06 2:17 PM, Jason Spock at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Probably, Bevan Morris and John Hagelin will be the two hot-shots controling the movement and it's finances.
 
Maybe, but I suspect that the nephews have even more clout.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/7/06 2:39 PM, Patrick Gillam at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 That said, are these Srivastava parties marked by
 wanton abuse of drugs, or are they just an Indian
 version of the get-down-and-boogie nights
 I used to enjoy?

I don't know the details. Maybe we should send a gate crasher.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/7/06 2:40 PM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Are you guys sure you didn't cross some wires during your last program
   and confused spiritual leadership with the Sopranos?

I don't think it was we who crossed the wires.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Vaj

On Apr 7, 2006, at 3:56 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote:

 --- Rick Archer wrote:
 
  Gillam wrote:
  
   That said, are these Srivastava parties marked by
   wanton abuse of drugs, or are they just an Indian
   version of the get-down-and-boogie nights
   I used to enjoy?
 
  I don't know the details. Maybe we should send a gate crasher.

 I nominate Kirk Bernhardt.

I second that emotion and pledge 20 USD towards his plane fare...


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/7/06 3:03 PM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Are you guys sure you didn't cross some wires during your last program
   and confused spiritual leadership with the Sopranos?
 
 A couple yrs ago, a friend who knew alot about the Indian TMO said to
 me something to the effect:  imagine what will happen to the brains of
 the MUM crowd when the truth comes out and they realize the Indian TMO
 has as much in common with the mafia as an ashram.

Not only is $$ coming from overseas siphoned off, but the TMO steals from
itself:

One evening some years back Eberhard Doberstein was driving back to Noida
from TMO headquarters in New Delhi with the cash to pay the printing press
employees several weeks' salary. A car forced him off the road and guys in
masks brandishing guns forced him to give them the cash. It was an inside
job. No one else would have known he was carrying money.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/7/06 5:06 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 wild all-night parties?
 
 
 Is that what they do?
 
 Yes. I was reminded of this the other day by a friend who just came
 back
 from India.
 
 
 They were present at these parties? How did they get invited?

He was telling be about the well-established reputation the Srivastavas have
among Indians in the know. He didn't personally attend the parties.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-06 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/6/06 12:01 AM, Ingegerd at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I once heard this theory that one way MMY ensures world peace is by
 attract some of the most stressed people on the planet and have
 them
 do silly things in the TMO instead of letting them create havoc
 outside the TMO sandbox.
 
 What a peculiar excuse for incompetence!
 Ingegerd

That's a Brigante theory. But these people he's referring to are generally
quite competent. Many of them accomplish a lot, except when confronted with
impossible tasks, like the world's tallest building, or rebuild Geneva.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-06 Thread Vaj

On Apr 6, 2006, at 7:54 AM, Rick Archer wrote:

 on 4/6/06 12:01 AM, Ingegerd at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I once heard this theory that one way MMY ensures world peace is by
  attract some of the most stressed people on the planet and have
  them
  do silly things in the TMO instead of letting them create havoc
  outside the TMO sandbox.
 
  What a peculiar excuse for incompetence!
  Ingegerd

 That's a Brigante theory. But these people he's referring to are  
 generally
 quite competent. Many of them accomplish a lot, except when  
 confronted with
 impossible tasks, like the world's tallest building, or rebuild  
 Geneva.

Well, it *does* explain Brigante (self-referral anyone?), and a few  
others...





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-06 Thread Vaj


On Apr 6, 2006, at 8:35 AM, Jason Spock wrote: People with similar Vibrations attract each other.  'Birds of the same feather flock together.'  People who have known each other in previous incarnations also attract each other. If Tm-org is a sand-box, then Tallest building is a Pie in the sky.?? Are Exc. Morris and Exc. Hagelin competent.??Is exchanging your integrity for having access to the world's biggest used mantra salesman competence?(...probably not.)





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-06 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi





on 4/6/06 7:35 AM, Jason Spock at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Are Exc. Morris and Exc. Hagelin competent.??

How many of us could do their jobs better? Sure, I see things I might do differently, especially my dealings with people (especially in Bevans case) but I couldnt fill either of their shoes.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-05 Thread Sal Sunshine
I think some of the people on this list is in serious need for first-grade grammar.

Sal


On Apr 5, 2006, at 1:53 PM, peterklutz wrote:

 I think some of the folks on this list is in serious need for
 psychological attention.