Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FF meditator Morbidity Stats Thanks 4 this up date Doug my - our polite & most informative FRIEND here THANKS! Bill Leed

2016-10-19 Thread wleed3 wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife]
I always read Ur posts thanks Doug & will avail my self of the alternate 
meditation forms when in FF & the lunches as well! 
Again MY THANKS




In a message dated 10/18/16 22:21:33 Eastern Daylight Time, 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com writes:



Reading the local newspaper obits one could hypothesize that meditators are 
less likely to die violently.  But that might be similar to other population 
groups that have higher education levels than the norm. The FF meditating 
community is quite an over-educated group by comparison if you look at the 
survey that was done of the larger meditating community back in the 1990’s.  


Or, like with Parkinson's is the incident any higher at all and if any more so 
might it have any connection to the mercury contained in health products 
imported from India that were consumed in copious quantity by some portion of 
meditators.  Would take a serious Public Health study to figure out.


More Public Health study too around hepatitis.  Were baby-boom hippies on 
college campuses in the 1960’s more likely to contract Hep C?  Meditation then 
being a phenomena that came out of college and university campuses,  Is the 
rate of Hep C end-of-life complication any different with meditators from any 
other 1960’s-70’s college educated groups?  Again more Public Health science is 
needed to fairly answer that without prejudice.


Brain tumors, any more common in meditators than in farmers?  Probably not.


Cirrhosis of the liver compared to the general population?


Obesity, a few notables.


Tobacco?  


Vit K1 and K2 deficiencies?



..The University of Iowa's School of Public Health ought to have a research 
team down here.  Potentially could be real interesting.   




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


B- No one thing out of the ordinary.   
People die all the time.
People die all along.
We don't notice it so much
in younger or middle age folks.
But it happens all along.
The larger baby-boom demographic 
of the 
meditator community is
moving up to and through the window.
It is just more evident (frequent).
Get ready.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Doug, do you know what any of these people are passing away from?  Old age, 
cancer, heart disease?

On 10/18/2016 01:33 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

  
Tom Torpy, a long time Purusha friend

passed away recently. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


John Herbert Prechtel
is now gone on.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Sali Pedin 
has passed on. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Nancy Van Blaricum 
TTC Mallorca 1972 w/ Maharishi
Initiated over 2000 meditators


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Thanks for posting these. 


Harvey Lubar, I knew.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Louisa Magee 
Marc Travis


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Recent passings from the meditating community.. 


Gillian Pierce
Frank Ramsey
Gert MacQuaeen
Evelyn Normandin
Petra Stanley
Harvey Lubar


Further back, to add to the longer list
Cindy Korn
Jan Overholt




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


James R. French 
Long time friend and benefactor 
of TM and the Fairfield, Iowa
meditating community
passed away, April 9th. .  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Jan Wixon, is another name on the list.   


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Currently, on average FF TM'ers would be.. of the Boomer II generation,
..about 65-70 years of age, on average. 


1994, Survey of Fairfield Adult Meditators,
Age:
25-35 65 10%
36-45 391 60%
46-55 138 21%
> 55 47 7%




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :




Rates of Change.  The calculus of aging in TM.. 


Some of what we can see in these lists is a natural aging-out of the Post-War 
Cohort, of the people who were early with Maharishi in the very early SRM 
movement,  the Walter Koch and Charlie Lutes generation of TM. 


Now what we are seeing in TM is an accelerating rate of attrition to aging-out 
of the Boomer I and Boomer II’s.  Interestingly, the cusp time period where the 
Boomers I and Boomers II met was the time frame where TM took off in popular 
(college undergrad, grad student, professor-age) culture for a time.  A lot of 
the TM movement intake happened in those years 1968-76, over the cusp of the 
Boomers I and II.  


You can see this particular cusp in the age span of meditators in the Dome or 
at campus meetings of the TM community now.  The WWII generation is pretty much 
gone from the ranks of TM now.  The Post-War Cohort are pretty gone or 
geriatric now and the Boomers I are increasingly shuffling or gone on.  Boomers 
II are increasingly ‘in diminish’.  Time is short regardless.  


Post-War Cohort
Born: 1928-1945
Coming of Age: 1946-1963
Age in 2004: 59 to 76
Current Population: 41 million (declining)


Boomers I or The Baby Boomers
Born: 1946-1954
Coming of Age: 1963-1972
Age in 2004: 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FF meditator Morbidity Stats

2016-10-18 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Reading the local newspaper obits one could hypothesize that meditators are 
less likely to die violently.  But that might be similar to other population 
groups that have higher education levels than the norm. The FF meditating 
community is quite an over-educated group by comparison if you look at the 
survey that was done of the larger meditating community back in the 1990’s.  

 Or, like with Parkinson's is the incident any higher at all and if any more so 
might it have any connection to the mercury contained in health products 
imported from India that were consumed in copious quantity by some portion of 
meditators.  Would take a serious Public Health study to figure out.

 More Public Health study too around hepatitis.  Were baby-boom hippies on 
college campuses in the 1960’s more likely to contract Hep C?  Meditation then 
being a phenomena that came out of college and university campuses,  Is the 
rate of Hep C end-of-life complication any different with meditators from any 
other 1960’s-70’s college educated groups?  Again more Public Health science is 
needed to fairly answer that without prejudice.

 Brain tumors, any more common in meditators than in farmers?  Probably not.

 Cirrhosis of the liver compared to the general population?

 Obesity, a few notables.

 Tobacco?  
 

 Vit K1 and K2 deficiencies?

 

 ..The University of Iowa's School of Public Health ought to have a research 
team down here.  Potentially could be real interesting.   
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 B- No one thing out of the ordinary.   People die all the time.
 People die all along.
 We don't notice it so much
 in younger or middle age folks.
 But it happens all along.
 The larger baby-boom demographic 
 of the 
 meditator community is
 moving up to and through the window.
 It is just more evident (frequent).
 Get ready.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Doug, do you know what any of these people are passing away from?  Old age, 
cancer, heart disease?
 
 On 10/18/2016 01:33 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   Tom Torpy, a long time Purusha friend

 passed away recently. 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote :
 
 John Herbert Prechtel
 is now gone on.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote :
 
 Sali Pedin has passed on. 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote :
 
 Nancy Van Blaricum TTC Mallorca 1972 w/ Maharishi
 Initiated over 2000 meditators
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote :
 
 Thanks for posting these. 
 
 Harvey Lubar, I knew.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
 
 Louisa Magee Marc Travis
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
 
 Recent passings from the meditating community.. 
 
 Gillian Pierce
 Frank Ramsey
 Gert MacQuaeen
 Evelyn Normandin
 Petra Stanley
 Harvey Lubar
 
 Further back, to add to the longer list
 Cindy Korn
 Jan Overholt
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
 
 James R. French Long time friend and benefactor 
 of TM and the Fairfield, Iowa
 meditating community
 passed away, April 9th. .  
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
 
 Jan Wixon, is another name on the list.   
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
 
 Currently, on average FF TM'ers would be.. of the Boomer II generation,
 ..about 65-70 years of age, on average. 
 

 1994, Survey of Fairfield Adult Meditators,
 Age:
 25-35 65 10%
 36-45 391 60%
 46-55 138 21%
 > 55 47 7%
 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
 
 
 
 Rates of Change.  The calculus of aging in TM.. 
 

 Some of what we can see in these lists is a natural aging-out of the Post-War 
Cohort, of the people who were early with Maharishi in the very early SRM 
movement,  the Walter Koch and Charlie Lutes generation of TM. 
 
 
 Now what we are seeing in TM is an accelerating rate of attrition to aging-out 
of the Boomer I and Boomer II’s.  Interestingly, the cusp time period where the 
Boomers I and Boomers II met was the time frame where TM took off in popular 
(college undergrad, grad student, professor-age) culture for a time.  A lot of 
the TM movement intake happened in those years 1968-76, over the cusp of the 
Boomers I and II.  
 
 
 You can see this particular cusp in the age span of meditators in