Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I once heard Maharishi talk about his early days while in Germany. He said that the German teachers had told him, in so many words, "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit", an old W.C. Fields quote. Of course M didn't use those words but that was the gist of it. Try to talk *above* your audience. And of course, that explains the *flowery* speak the TMO is noted for. You're so baffled by the idiocy of how something is presented to you that the substance escapes your critical thinking. If it wasn't for the food and the fact I like meditating I would have run a mile when they said that I shouldn't try and understand it, but let it sink in at a deep level. Marshy's lectures always annoyed me with the rambling and the logical inconsistencies, I used to fall asleep and let it all wash over me until the dinner gong went. That's one of the reasons I would never have made it through Teacher Training - MMY was such a snooze. Plus, I just don't have it in me to follow the rules. I'll go along for a while but sooner rather than later I start wandering off the path and before I know it I've wandered onto the exit ramp of some freeway and ended up in Omaha when I was supposed to go to Chicago. I had a great time at MIU, had lots of cool friends, broke the rules but not so much I got kicked out. I wouldn't trade the experience for anything - MIU was pretty 'happenin'' in the late 70's and early 80's. After that something funny happened after I left. Turns out the exit ramp came up at exactly the right time, for me. It was the lifestyle that kept me there for so long, I got to live in a nice Tudor manor house, all food was cooked by decent chefs and the work was fun but easy. At least it was when I stopped working for the publicity department as I stopped believing the bits I did believe while I was there, and that made it hard work because my heart has to be into it for me to get enthusiastic, and also to be convincing for those on the receiving end. You can't sell something that you think is rubbish no matter what the sales training experts tell you! Sounds like you had the advantage of the British historical richness to give you a leg up on the accommodations - not like us freezing in the MIU pods all winter and being surrounded by the other ugliest buildings known to man (the gulag-like frat buildings). The original Parsons College structures (condemned and unused) were old brick buildings and they were lovely but all we could do was look at them from the outside. The food was great though and plenty of it and the people were interesting and varied, lots of wonderful students. While everyone was pretty one-pointed they were still not too robotic as well as fun-loving - especially in my major which was the art department - craziest bunch of blasphemers you could ever meet. Good times though, and a good experience that not many get to have. As long as you keep one foot on the ground you can get away from cults if it gets too weird... I was pretty much one foot always on the ground. I was there to practice TM and get a degree. Upon leaving I liked the sound of that other blasphemer Robin Carlsen whose independent streak is what drew me in. He was a wild and crazy guy and discovering British Columbia was also a draw. Another adventure I don't regret. I learned tons and then jumped ship when it got too weird. Fun times.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today
Oh, I wouldn't trade my years involved with Maharishi for anything. Love the knowledge (pre-siddhi courses anyway) and the experiences. But I'm definitely glad I moved on, grew up and applied the knowledge in a practical way. No need to hang around the TMO. M's philosophy was rest and action, dip the cloth and let it bleach in the sun. Hanging around Fairfield and the movement would be like sitting and not going anywhere. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 12:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I once heard Maharishi talk about his early days while in Germany. He said that the German teachers had told him, in so many words, "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit", an old W.C. Fields quote. Of course M didn't use those words but that was the gist of it. Try to talk *above* your audience. And of course, that explains the *flowery* speak the TMO is noted for. You're so baffled by the idiocy of how something is presented to you that the substance escapes your critical thinking. If it wasn't for the food and the fact I like meditating I would have run a mile when they said that I shouldn't try and understand it, but let it sink in at a deep level. Marshy's lectures always annoyed me with the rambling and the logical inconsistencies, I used to fall asleep and let it all wash over me until the dinner gong went. That's one of the reasons I would never have made it through Teacher Training - MMY was such a snooze. Plus, I just don't have it in me to follow the rules. I'll go along for a while but sooner rather than later I start wandering off the path and before I know it I've wandered onto the exit ramp of some freeway and ended up in Omaha when I was supposed to go to Chicago. I had a great time at MIU, had lots of cool friends, broke the rules but not so much I got kicked out. I wouldn't trade the experience for anything - MIU was pretty 'happenin'' in the late 70's and early 80's. After that something funny happened after I left. Turns out the exit ramp came up at exactly the right time, for me. It was the lifestyle that kept me there for so long, I got to live in a nice Tudor manor house, all food was cooked by decent chefs and the work was fun but easy. At least it was when I stopped working for the publicity department as I stopped believing the bits I did believe while I was there, and that made it hard work because my heart has to be into it for me to get enthusiastic, and also to be convincing for those on the receiving end. You can't sell something that you think is rubbish no matter what the sales training experts tell you! Good times though, and a good experience that not many get to have. As long as you keep one foot on the ground you can get away from cults if it gets too weird... From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It's called *getting them in the door, by hook or by crook*. If you were a student of foreign languages, someone would come up with a study that says TM fine tunes the ear, making it easier to hear and thus pronounce words in a foreign language better. Whatever floats your boat in other words. Yes, I was being rhetorical. It's obvious he's a front man for the same old BS from the TMO, blind 'em with science and hope they don't follow the links from the impressive looking list of journal references. Remember the references they cited when they wanted everyone to buy houses that faced east? A list of 10 papers in the International Journal of Neurophysiology no less, but follow the link and it turned out to be a bunch of interesting, but irrelevant, stuff about how rats find their way about in the dark. Nothing about inherent direction finding in mammals, and even if there was it would be magnetic and therefore north/south based. Why would a mammal be east sensitive? Anyway, they were obviously hoping no one would actually go and look. I always thought Lynch was there to project an image simply of the benefits of meditation without all the silly woo-woo that is associated with TM like the levitation that isn't, and yagyas and world peace creation. That stuff goes down well with the True Believer but the average Joe will see through it in a second, hence the need for a new approach with a bit of apparently independent celebrity endorsement. The website looks great but it looks like he's borrowed the same
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I once heard Maharishi talk about his early days while in Germany. He said that the German teachers had told him, in so many words, "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit", an old W.C. Fields quote. Of course M didn't use those words but that was the gist of it. Try to talk *above* your audience. And of course, that explains the *flowery* speak the TMO is noted for. You're so baffled by the idiocy of how something is presented to you that the substance escapes your critical thinking. If it wasn't for the food and the fact I like meditating I would have run a mile when they said that I shouldn't try and understand it, but let it sink in at a deep level. Marshy's lectures always annoyed me with the rambling and the logical inconsistencies, I used to fall asleep and let it all wash over me until the dinner gong went. That's one of the reasons I would never have made it through Teacher Training - MMY was such a snooze. Plus, I just don't have it in me to follow the rules. I'll go along for a while but sooner rather than later I start wandering off the path and before I know it I've wandered onto the exit ramp of some freeway and ended up in Omaha when I was supposed to go to Chicago. I had a great time at MIU, had lots of cool friends, broke the rules but not so much I got kicked out. I wouldn't trade the experience for anything - MIU was pretty 'happenin'' in the late 70's and early 80's. After that something funny happened after I left. Turns out the exit ramp came up at exactly the right time, for me. It was the lifestyle that kept me there for so long, I got to live in a nice Tudor manor house, all food was cooked by decent chefs and the work was fun but easy. At least it was when I stopped working for the publicity department as I stopped believing the bits I did believe while I was there, and that made it hard work because my heart has to be into it for me to get enthusiastic, and also to be convincing for those on the receiving end. You can't sell something that you think is rubbish no matter what the sales training experts tell you! Good times though, and a good experience that not many get to have. As long as you keep one foot on the ground you can get away from cults if it gets too weird... From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It's called *getting them in the door, by hook or by crook*. If you were a student of foreign languages, someone would come up with a study that says TM fine tunes the ear, making it easier to hear and thus pronounce words in a foreign language better. Whatever floats your boat in other words. Yes, I was being rhetorical. It's obvious he's a front man for the same old BS from the TMO, blind 'em with science and hope they don't follow the links from the impressive looking list of journal references. Remember the references they cited when they wanted everyone to buy houses that faced east? A list of 10 papers in the International Journal of Neurophysiology no less, but follow the link and it turned out to be a bunch of interesting, but irrelevant, stuff about how rats find their way about in the dark. Nothing about inherent direction finding in mammals, and even if there was it would be magnetic and therefore north/south based. Why would a mammal be east sensitive? Anyway, they were obviously hoping no one would actually go and look. I always thought Lynch was there to project an image simply of the benefits of meditation without all the silly woo-woo that is associated with TM like the levitation that isn't, and yagyas and world peace creation. That stuff goes down well with the True Believer but the average Joe will see through it in a second, hence the need for a new approach with a bit of apparently independent celebrity endorsement. The website looks great but it looks like he's borrowed the same approach - and undoubtably written by the same people - from the TMO. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 3:14 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today My first glance at Lynch's website doesn't fill me with hope that the TMO have started playing straight with the facts. He makes a claim for 51% reduction in physical problems associated with HIV/AIDS and provides a link to references. Follow the link and there are only two papers related to HIV/AIDS, one unpublish
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I once heard Maharishi talk about his early days while in Germany. He said that the German teachers had told him, in so many words, "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit", an old W.C. Fields quote. Of course M didn't use those words but that was the gist of it. Try to talk *above* your audience. And of course, that explains the *flowery* speak the TMO is noted for. You're so baffled by the idiocy of how something is presented to you that the substance escapes your critical thinking. If it wasn't for the food and the fact I like meditating I would have run a mile when they said that I shouldn't try and understand it, but let it sink in at a deep level. Marshy's lectures always annoyed me with the rambling and the logical inconsistencies, I used to fall asleep and let it all wash over me until the dinner gong went. That's one of the reasons I would never have made it through Teacher Training - MMY was such a snooze. Plus, I just don't have it in me to follow the rules. I'll go along for a while but sooner rather than later I start wandering off the path and before I know it I've wandered onto the exit ramp of some freeway and ended up in Omaha when I was supposed to go to Chicago. I had a great time at MIU, had lots of cool friends, broke the rules but not so much I got kicked out. I wouldn't trade the experience for anything - MIU was pretty 'happenin'' in the late 70's and early 80's. After that something funny happened after I left. Turns out the exit ramp came up at exactly the right time, for me. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It's called *getting them in the door, by hook or by crook*. If you were a student of foreign languages, someone would come up with a study that says TM fine tunes the ear, making it easier to hear and thus pronounce words in a foreign language better. Whatever floats your boat in other words. Yes, I was being rhetorical. It's obvious he's a front man for the same old BS from the TMO, blind 'em with science and hope they don't follow the links from the impressive looking list of journal references. Remember the references they cited when they wanted everyone to buy houses that faced east? A list of 10 papers in the International Journal of Neurophysiology no less, but follow the link and it turned out to be a bunch of interesting, but irrelevant, stuff about how rats find their way about in the dark. Nothing about inherent direction finding in mammals, and even if there was it would be magnetic and therefore north/south based. Why would a mammal be east sensitive? Anyway, they were obviously hoping no one would actually go and look. I always thought Lynch was there to project an image simply of the benefits of meditation without all the silly woo-woo that is associated with TM like the levitation that isn't, and yagyas and world peace creation. That stuff goes down well with the True Believer but the average Joe will see through it in a second, hence the need for a new approach with a bit of apparently independent celebrity endorsement. The website looks great but it looks like he's borrowed the same approach - and undoubtably written by the same people - from the TMO. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 3:14 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today My first glance at Lynch's website doesn't fill me with hope that the TMO have started playing straight with the facts. He makes a claim for 51% reduction in physical problems associated with HIV/AIDS and provides a link to references. Follow the link and there are only two papers related to HIV/AIDS, one unpublished one by MUM, and another that admits in its own abstract that the sample size was too small to justify the claims and further research is needed for validation. And in any case, was only related to vitality and not physical problems. I know people who have died of AIDS and I am pissed off that the TMO would potentially try and get the hopes up of sick people with the usual dump of impressive sounding claims that aren't backed up. So where is the data, did I miss something? My best guess from reading that lot is that they are extrapolating from their other unconnected "research", but look down the list of references and it's all the same old stuff from the collected papers that no one ever rated as quality research, sure some of the newer stuff might b
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I got my first and only advanced technique on TTC from Maharishi. Many others did too. Something strange happened on the flight home as some were asking people if they remembered the advanced technique they got. Seems some didn't. I was confused for years between two versions. Each gave a different experience. Remember this was years before the mantras were posted online. And two mantra check letters to Maharishi got me nowhere. This is part of why I soured on the movement. Just like software, you get no support you go elsewhere. On 01/21/2016 11:55 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The last penny I gave the TMO was for fourth advanced technique back in the 90's. *From:* salyavin808 *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2016 1:28 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : LOL! Me to! Yeah, I found it very annoying to listen to him as well. Wish I could have fallen asleep. I was usually good for about ten minutes but when he closed his eyes and started rambling it was like WTF! But the problem with dozing during rounding courses is that it can all sink in and you start believing it all anyway, and before you know it you're saying "I got some nature support today" when what you meant to say was "There was an available table at the cafe this morning." There's a vast gulf in sanity between those two statements, and it creeps up on you without you realising it, and before you know it you've got the yagya service on speed dial Not that I ever did any of that obviously *From:* salyavin808 *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:46 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I once heard Maharishi talk about his early days while in Germany. He said that the German teachers had told him, in so many words, "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit", an old W.C. Fields quote. Of course M didn't use those words but that was the gist of it. Try to talk *above* your audience. And of course, that explains the *flowery* speak the TMO is noted for. You're so baffled by the idiocy of how something is presented to you that the substance escapes your critical thinking. If it wasn't for the food and the fact I like meditating I would have run a mile when they said that I shouldn't try and understand it, but let it sink in at a deep level. Marshy's lectures always annoyed me with the rambling and the logical inconsistencies, I used to fall asleep and let it all wash over me until the dinner gong went. *From:* salyavin808 *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:51 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It's called *getting them in the door, by hook or by crook*. If you were a student of foreign languages, someone would come up with a study that says TM fine tunes the ear, making it easier to hear and thus pronounce words in a foreign language better. Whatever floats your boat in other words. Yes, I was being rhetorical. It's obvious he's a front man for the same old BS from the TMO, blind 'em with science and hope they don't follow the links from the impressive looking list of journal references. Remember the references they cited when they wanted everyone to buy houses that faced east? A list of 10 papers in the International Journal of Neurophysiology no less, but follow the link and it turned out to be a bunch of interesting, but irrelevant, stuff about how rats find their way about in the dark. Nothing about inherent direction finding in mammals, and even if there was it would be magnetic and therefore north/south based. Why would a mammal be east sensitive? Anyway, they were obviously hoping no one would actually go and look. I always thought Lynch was there to project an image simply of the benefits of meditation without all the silly woo-woo that is associated with TM like the levitation that isn't, and yagyas and world peace creation. That stuff goes down well with the True Believer but the average Joe will see through it in a second, hence the need for a new approach with a bit of apparently independent celebrity endorsement. The website looks great but it looks like he's borrowed the same approach - and undoubtably written by the same people - from the TMO. ---
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The last penny I gave the TMO was for fourth advanced technique back in the 90's. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : LOL! Me to! Yeah, I found it very annoying to listen to him as well. Wish I could have fallen asleep.I was usually good for about ten minutes but when he closed his eyes and started rambling it was like WTF! But the problem with dozing during rounding courses is that it can all sink in and you start believing it all anyway, and before you know it you're saying "I got some nature support today" when what you meant to say was "There was an available table at the cafe this morning." There's a vast gulf in sanity between those two statements, and it creeps up on you without you realising it, and before you know it you've got the yagya service on speed dial Not that I ever did any of that obviously From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I once heard Maharishi talk about his early days while in Germany. He said that the German teachers had told him, in so many words, "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit", an old W.C. Fields quote. Of course M didn't use those words but that was the gist of it. Try to talk *above* your audience. And of course, that explains the *flowery* speak the TMO is noted for. You're so baffled by the idiocy of how something is presented to you that the substance escapes your critical thinking. If it wasn't for the food and the fact I like meditating I would have run a mile when they said that I shouldn't try and understand it, but let it sink in at a deep level. Marshy's lectures always annoyed me with the rambling and the logical inconsistencies, I used to fall asleep and let it all wash over me until the dinner gong went. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It's called *getting them in the door, by hook or by crook*. If you were a student of foreign languages, someone would come up with a study that says TM fine tunes the ear, making it easier to hear and thus pronounce words in a foreign language better. Whatever floats your boat in other words. Yes, I was being rhetorical. It's obvious he's a front man for the same old BS from the TMO, blind 'em with science and hope they don't follow the links from the impressive looking list of journal references. Remember the references they cited when they wanted everyone to buy houses that faced east? A list of 10 papers in the International Journal of Neurophysiology no less, but follow the link and it turned out to be a bunch of interesting, but irrelevant, stuff about how rats find their way about in the dark. Nothing about inherent direction finding in mammals, and even if there was it would be magnetic and therefore north/south based. Why would a mammal be east sensitive? Anyway, they were obviously hoping no one would actually go and look. I always thought Lynch was there to project an image simply of the benefits of meditation without all the silly woo-woo that is associated with TM like the levitation that isn't, and yagyas and world peace creation. That stuff goes down well with the True Believer but the average Joe will see through it in a second, hence the need for a new approach with a bit of apparently independent celebrity endorsement. The website looks great but it looks like he's borrowed the same approach - and undoubtably written by the same people - from the TMO. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 3:14 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today My first glance at Lynch's website doesn't fill me with hope that the TMO have started playing straight with the facts. He makes a claim for 51% reduction in physical problems associated with HIV/AIDS and provides a link to references. Follow the link and there are only two papers related to HIV/AIDS, one unpublished one by MUM, and another that admits in its own abstract that the sample size was too small to justify the claims and further research is needed for validation. And in any case, was only related to vitality and not physical problems. I know people who have died of AIDS and I am pissed off that the TMO would potentially try and get the hopes up of sick people with the usu
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : LOL! Me to! Yeah, I found it very annoying to listen to him as well. Wish I could have fallen asleep. I was usually good for about ten minutes but when he closed his eyes and started rambling it was like WTF! But the problem with dozing during rounding courses is that it can all sink in and you start believing it all anyway, and before you know it you're saying "I got some nature support today" when what you meant to say was "There was an available table at the cafe this morning." There's a vast gulf in sanity between those two statements, and it creeps up on you without you realising it, and before you know it you've got the yagya service on speed dial Not that I ever did any of that obviously From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I once heard Maharishi talk about his early days while in Germany. He said that the German teachers had told him, in so many words, "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit", an old W.C. Fields quote. Of course M didn't use those words but that was the gist of it. Try to talk *above* your audience. And of course, that explains the *flowery* speak the TMO is noted for. You're so baffled by the idiocy of how something is presented to you that the substance escapes your critical thinking. If it wasn't for the food and the fact I like meditating I would have run a mile when they said that I shouldn't try and understand it, but let it sink in at a deep level. Marshy's lectures always annoyed me with the rambling and the logical inconsistencies, I used to fall asleep and let it all wash over me until the dinner gong went. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It's called *getting them in the door, by hook or by crook*. If you were a student of foreign languages, someone would come up with a study that says TM fine tunes the ear, making it easier to hear and thus pronounce words in a foreign language better. Whatever floats your boat in other words. Yes, I was being rhetorical. It's obvious he's a front man for the same old BS from the TMO, blind 'em with science and hope they don't follow the links from the impressive looking list of journal references. Remember the references they cited when they wanted everyone to buy houses that faced east? A list of 10 papers in the International Journal of Neurophysiology no less, but follow the link and it turned out to be a bunch of interesting, but irrelevant, stuff about how rats find their way about in the dark. Nothing about inherent direction finding in mammals, and even if there was it would be magnetic and therefore north/south based. Why would a mammal be east sensitive? Anyway, they were obviously hoping no one would actually go and look. I always thought Lynch was there to project an image simply of the benefits of meditation without all the silly woo-woo that is associated with TM like the levitation that isn't, and yagyas and world peace creation. That stuff goes down well with the True Believer but the average Joe will see through it in a second, hence the need for a new approach with a bit of apparently independent celebrity endorsement. The website looks great but it looks like he's borrowed the same approach - and undoubtably written by the same people - from the TMO. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 3:14 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today My first glance at Lynch's website doesn't fill me with hope that the TMO have started playing straight with the facts. He makes a claim for 51% reduction in physical problems associated with HIV/AIDS and provides a link to references. Follow the link and there are only two papers related to HIV/AIDS, one unpublished one by MUM, and another that admits in its own abstract that the sample size was too small to justify the claims and further research is needed for validation. And in any case, was only related to vitality and not physical problems. I know people who have died of AIDS and I am pissed off that the TMO would potentially try and get the hopes up of sick people with the usual dump of impressive sounding claims that aren't backed up. So where is the data, did I miss something? My best guess from reading that lot is that they are extrapolating from their other unconnected "research&qu
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LOL! Me to! Yeah, I found it very annoying to listen to him as well. Wish I could have fallen asleep.I was usually good for about ten minutes but when he closed his eyes and started rambling it was like WTF! From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I once heard Maharishi talk about his early days while in Germany. He said that the German teachers had told him, in so many words, "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit", an old W.C. Fields quote. Of course M didn't use those words but that was the gist of it. Try to talk *above* your audience. And of course, that explains the *flowery* speak the TMO is noted for. You're so baffled by the idiocy of how something is presented to you that the substance escapes your critical thinking. If it wasn't for the food and the fact I like meditating I would have run a mile when they said that I shouldn't try and understand it, but let it sink in at a deep level. Marshy's lectures always annoyed me with the rambling and the logical inconsistencies, I used to fall asleep and let it all wash over me until the dinner gong went. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It's called *getting them in the door, by hook or by crook*. If you were a student of foreign languages, someone would come up with a study that says TM fine tunes the ear, making it easier to hear and thus pronounce words in a foreign language better. Whatever floats your boat in other words. Yes, I was being rhetorical. It's obvious he's a front man for the same old BS from the TMO, blind 'em with science and hope they don't follow the links from the impressive looking list of journal references. Remember the references they cited when they wanted everyone to buy houses that faced east? A list of 10 papers in the International Journal of Neurophysiology no less, but follow the link and it turned out to be a bunch of interesting, but irrelevant, stuff about how rats find their way about in the dark. Nothing about inherent direction finding in mammals, and even if there was it would be magnetic and therefore north/south based. Why would a mammal be east sensitive? Anyway, they were obviously hoping no one would actually go and look. I always thought Lynch was there to project an image simply of the benefits of meditation without all the silly woo-woo that is associated with TM like the levitation that isn't, and yagyas and world peace creation. That stuff goes down well with the True Believer but the average Joe will see through it in a second, hence the need for a new approach with a bit of apparently independent celebrity endorsement. The website looks great but it looks like he's borrowed the same approach - and undoubtably written by the same people - from the TMO. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 3:14 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today My first glance at Lynch's website doesn't fill me with hope that the TMO have started playing straight with the facts. He makes a claim for 51% reduction in physical problems associated with HIV/AIDS and provides a link to references. Follow the link and there are only two papers related to HIV/AIDS, one unpublished one by MUM, and another that admits in its own abstract that the sample size was too small to justify the claims and further research is needed for validation. And in any case, was only related to vitality and not physical problems. I know people who have died of AIDS and I am pissed off that the TMO would potentially try and get the hopes up of sick people with the usual dump of impressive sounding claims that aren't backed up. So where is the data, did I miss something? My best guess from reading that lot is that they are extrapolating from their other unconnected "research", but look down the list of references and it's all the same old stuff from the collected papers that no one ever rated as quality research, sure some of the newer stuff might be better but is it relevant? Another of the claims for TM as an HIV/AIDS treatment great for anxiety and depression, are there any papers on mental health TM and AIDS patients? No. There's a few website testimonials but we all know they prove nothing. Besides, I know so many long term TMers that get a bit of extra help for personal problems that I've lost count, just as well they weren't included in the research huh? And th
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I once heard Maharishi talk about his early days while in Germany. He said that the German teachers had told him, in so many words, "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit", an old W.C. Fields quote. Of course M didn't use those words but that was the gist of it. Try to talk *above* your audience. And of course, that explains the *flowery* speak the TMO is noted for. You're so baffled by the idiocy of how something is presented to you that the substance escapes your critical thinking. If it wasn't for the food and the fact I like meditating I would have run a mile when they said that I shouldn't try and understand it, but let it sink in at a deep level. Marshy's lectures always annoyed me with the rambling and the logical inconsistencies, I used to fall asleep and let it all wash over me until the dinner gong went. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It's called *getting them in the door, by hook or by crook*. If you were a student of foreign languages, someone would come up with a study that says TM fine tunes the ear, making it easier to hear and thus pronounce words in a foreign language better. Whatever floats your boat in other words. Yes, I was being rhetorical. It's obvious he's a front man for the same old BS from the TMO, blind 'em with science and hope they don't follow the links from the impressive looking list of journal references. Remember the references they cited when they wanted everyone to buy houses that faced east? A list of 10 papers in the International Journal of Neurophysiology no less, but follow the link and it turned out to be a bunch of interesting, but irrelevant, stuff about how rats find their way about in the dark. Nothing about inherent direction finding in mammals, and even if there was it would be magnetic and therefore north/south based. Why would a mammal be east sensitive? Anyway, they were obviously hoping no one would actually go and look. I always thought Lynch was there to project an image simply of the benefits of meditation without all the silly woo-woo that is associated with TM like the levitation that isn't, and yagyas and world peace creation. That stuff goes down well with the True Believer but the average Joe will see through it in a second, hence the need for a new approach with a bit of apparently independent celebrity endorsement. The website looks great but it looks like he's borrowed the same approach - and undoubtably written by the same people - from the TMO. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 3:14 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today My first glance at Lynch's website doesn't fill me with hope that the TMO have started playing straight with the facts. He makes a claim for 51% reduction in physical problems associated with HIV/AIDS and provides a link to references. Follow the link and there are only two papers related to HIV/AIDS, one unpublished one by MUM, and another that admits in its own abstract that the sample size was too small to justify the claims and further research is needed for validation. And in any case, was only related to vitality and not physical problems. I know people who have died of AIDS and I am pissed off that the TMO would potentially try and get the hopes up of sick people with the usual dump of impressive sounding claims that aren't backed up. So where is the data, did I miss something? My best guess from reading that lot is that they are extrapolating from their other unconnected "research", but look down the list of references and it's all the same old stuff from the collected papers that no one ever rated as quality research, sure some of the newer stuff might be better but is it relevant? Another of the claims for TM as an HIV/AIDS treatment great for anxiety and depression, are there any papers on mental health TM and AIDS patients? No. There's a few website testimonials but we all know they prove nothing. Besides, I know so many long term TMers that get a bit of extra help for personal problems that I've lost count, just as well they weren't included in the research huh? And then there's the FF Mental Health Alliance, does Lynch know about this blatant contradiction of the claims on his website? I'm curious, can anyone else find a decent bit of research actually showing that TM helps people with AIDS in the way they claim on Lynch's site? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : https://www.y
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I once heard Maharishi talk about his early days while in Germany. He said that the German teachers had told him, in so many words, "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit", an old W.C. Fields quote. Of course M didn't use those words but that was the gist of it. Try to talk *above* your audience. And of course, that explains the *flowery* speak the TMO is noted for. You're so baffled by the idiocy of how something is presented to you that the substance escapes your critical thinking. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It's called *getting them in the door, by hook or by crook*. If you were a student of foreign languages, someone would come up with a study that says TM fine tunes the ear, making it easier to hear and thus pronounce words in a foreign language better. Whatever floats your boat in other words. Yes, I was being rhetorical. It's obvious he's a front man for the same old BS from the TMO, blind 'em with science and hope they don't follow the links from the impressive looking list of journal references. Remember the references they cited when they wanted everyone to buy houses that faced east? A list of 10 papers in the International Journal of Neurophysiology no less, but follow the link and it turned out to be a bunch of interesting, but irrelevant, stuff about how rats find their way about in the dark. Nothing about inherent direction finding in mammals, and even if there was it would be magnetic and therefore north/south based. Why would a mammal be east sensitive? Anyway, they were obviously hoping no one would actually go and look. I always thought Lynch was there to project an image simply of the benefits of meditation without all the silly woo-woo that is associated with TM like the levitation that isn't, and yagyas and world peace creation. That stuff goes down well with the True Believer but the average Joe will see through it in a second, hence the need for a new approach with a bit of apparently independent celebrity endorsement. The website looks great but it looks like he's borrowed the same approach - and undoubtably written by the same people - from the TMO. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 3:14 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today My first glance at Lynch's website doesn't fill me with hope that the TMO have started playing straight with the facts. He makes a claim for 51% reduction in physical problems associated with HIV/AIDS and provides a link to references. Follow the link and there are only two papers related to HIV/AIDS, one unpublished one by MUM, and another that admits in its own abstract that the sample size was too small to justify the claims and further research is needed for validation. And in any case, was only related to vitality and not physical problems. I know people who have died of AIDS and I am pissed off that the TMO would potentially try and get the hopes up of sick people with the usual dump of impressive sounding claims that aren't backed up. So where is the data, did I miss something? My best guess from reading that lot is that they are extrapolating from their other unconnected "research", but look down the list of references and it's all the same old stuff from the collected papers that no one ever rated as quality research, sure some of the newer stuff might be better but is it relevant? Another of the claims for TM as an HIV/AIDS treatment great for anxiety and depression, are there any papers on mental health TM and AIDS patients? No. There's a few website testimonials but we all know they prove nothing. Besides, I know so many long term TMers that get a bit of extra help for personal problems that I've lost count, just as well they weren't included in the research huh? And then there's the FF Mental Health Alliance, does Lynch know about this blatant contradiction of the claims on his website? I'm curious, can anyone else find a decent bit of research actually showing that TM helps people with AIDS in the way they claim on Lynch's site? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : | | | | | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1hUSumUc4k THE GREEK HAPPY BIRTHDAY SONG FOR DAVID LYNCH, sung by Demetrios Kanellakos, JANUARY 20, 2016 ** DAVID LYCH INSPIRED HALF OF HOLLYWOODS STARS TO SPONSER THE DAVID LYNCH FOUNDATION TO BRING TM TO MORE THAN 200 000 SCHOOLKIDSAND VETERANS AND OTHERS WHO NEED HELPTO BECOME FIT FOR LIFE AND DEVELOP THEIRFULL POTENTIAL. AMONG THE STARS WHO MEDITATE ARE JERR
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It's called *getting them in the door, by hook or by crook*. If you were a student of foreign languages, someone would come up with a study that says TM fine tunes the ear, making it easier to hear and thus pronounce words in a foreign language better. Whatever floats your boat in other words. Yes, I was being rhetorical. It's obvious he's a front man for the same old BS from the TMO, blind 'em with science and hope they don't follow the links from the impressive looking list of journal references. Remember the references they cited when they wanted everyone to buy houses that faced east? A list of 10 papers in the International Journal of Neurophysiology no less, but follow the link and it turned out to be a bunch of interesting, but irrelevant, stuff about how rats find their way about in the dark. Nothing about inherent direction finding in mammals, and even if there was it would be magnetic and therefore north/south based. Why would a mammal be east sensitive? Anyway, they were obviously hoping no one would actually go and look. I always thought Lynch was there to project an image simply of the benefits of meditation without all the silly woo-woo that is associated with TM like the levitation that isn't, and yagyas and world peace creation. That stuff goes down well with the True Believer but the average Joe will see through it in a second, hence the need for a new approach with a bit of apparently independent celebrity endorsement. The website looks great but it looks like he's borrowed the same approach - and undoubtably written by the same people - from the TMO. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 3:14 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today My first glance at Lynch's website doesn't fill me with hope that the TMO have started playing straight with the facts. He makes a claim for 51% reduction in physical problems associated with HIV/AIDS and provides a link to references. Follow the link and there are only two papers related to HIV/AIDS, one unpublished one by MUM, and another that admits in its own abstract that the sample size was too small to justify the claims and further research is needed for validation. And in any case, was only related to vitality and not physical problems. I know people who have died of AIDS and I am pissed off that the TMO would potentially try and get the hopes up of sick people with the usual dump of impressive sounding claims that aren't backed up. So where is the data, did I miss something? My best guess from reading that lot is that they are extrapolating from their other unconnected "research", but look down the list of references and it's all the same old stuff from the collected papers that no one ever rated as quality research, sure some of the newer stuff might be better but is it relevant? Another of the claims for TM as an HIV/AIDS treatment great for anxiety and depression, are there any papers on mental health TM and AIDS patients? No. There's a few website testimonials but we all know they prove nothing. Besides, I know so many long term TMers that get a bit of extra help for personal problems that I've lost count, just as well they weren't included in the research huh? And then there's the FF Mental Health Alliance, does Lynch know about this blatant contradiction of the claims on his website? I'm curious, can anyone else find a decent bit of research actually showing that TM helps people with AIDS in the way they claim on Lynch's site? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1hUSumUc4k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1hUSumUc4k THE GREEK HAPPY BIRTHDAY SONG FOR DAVID LYNCH, sung by Demetrios Kanellakos, JANUARY 20, 2016 ** DAVID LYCH INSPIRED HALF OF HOLLYWOODS STARS TO SPONSER THE DAVID LYNCH FOUNDATION TO BRING TM TO MORE THAN 200 000 SCHOOLKIDS AND VETERANS AND OTHERS WHO NEED HELP TO BECOME FIT FOR LIFE AND DEVELOP THEIR FULL POTENTIAL. AMONG THE STARS WHO MEDITATE ARE JERRY SEINFELD AND KATHY PERRY, THE 2 MOST SUCCESSFULL ARTISTS OF 2015... PLEASE ENJOY DAVIDS WONDERFULL INSPIRING WEBSITE: https://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/ https://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/ https://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/ “The Quiet Time Program is the most powerful, effective program I’ve come across in my 40 years as a public school educator. It is nourishing these children and providing them an immensely valuable tool for life. It is saving lives.” —James S. Dierke, Executive Vice President, American Federation of School Administrators ___ *** .en..j..o..y...
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It's called *getting them in the door, by hook or by crook*. If you were a student of foreign languages, someone would come up with a study that says TM fine tunes the ear, making it easier to hear and thus pronounce words in a foreign language better. Whatever floats your boat in other words. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 3:14 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday! David Lynch Turns 70 Today My first glance at Lynch's website doesn't fill me with hope that the TMO have started playing straight with the facts. He makes a claim for 51% reduction in physical problems associated with HIV/AIDS and provides a link to references. Follow the link and there are only two papers related to HIV/AIDS, one unpublished one by MUM, and another that admits in its own abstract that the sample size was too small to justify the claims and further research is needed for validation. And in any case, was only related to vitality and not physical problems. I know people who have died of AIDS and I am pissed off that the TMO would potentially try and get the hopes up of sick people with the usual dump of impressive sounding claims that aren't backed up. So where is the data, did I miss something? My best guess from reading that lot is that they are extrapolating from their other unconnected "research", but look down the list of references and it's all the same old stuff from the collected papers that no one ever rated as quality research, sure some of the newer stuff might be better but is it relevant? Another of the claims for TM as an HIV/AIDS treatment great for anxiety and depression, are there any papers on mental health TM and AIDS patients? No. There's a few website testimonials but we all know they prove nothing. Besides, I know so many long term TMers that get a bit of extra help for personal problems that I've lost count, just as well they weren't included in the research huh? And then there's the FF Mental Health Alliance, does Lynch know about this blatant contradiction of the claims on his website? I'm curious, can anyone else find a decent bit of research actually showing that TM helps people with AIDS in the way they claim on Lynch's site? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : | | | | | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1hUSumUc4k THE GREEK HAPPY BIRTHDAY SONG FOR DAVID LYNCH, sung by Demetrios Kanellakos, JANUARY 20, 2016 ** DAVID LYCH INSPIRED HALF OF HOLLYWOODS STARS TO SPONSER THE DAVID LYNCH FOUNDATION TO BRING TM TO MORE THAN 200 000 SCHOOLKIDSAND VETERANS AND OTHERS WHO NEED HELPTO BECOME FIT FOR LIFE AND DEVELOP THEIRFULL POTENTIAL. AMONG THE STARS WHO MEDITATE ARE JERRY SEINFELD AND KATHY PERRY, THE 2 MOST SUCCESSFULL ARTISTS OF 2015... PLEASE ENJOY DAVIDS WONDERFULL INSPIRING WEBSITE: https://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/ “The Quiet TimeProgram is the most powerful, effective program I’ve come across in my40 years as a public school educator. It is nourishing these childrenand providing them an immensely valuable tool for life. It is savinglives.” —James S. Dierke, Executive Vice President, American Federation of School Administrators ___***.en..j..o..y... | | | | | | Yahoo Mail Stationery | | #yiv9012531187 #yiv9012531187 -- #yiv9012531187ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv9012531187 #yiv9012531187ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv9012531187 #yiv9012531187ygrp-mkp #yiv9012531187hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv9012531187 #yiv9012531187ygrp-mkp #yiv9012531187ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv9012531187 #yiv9012531187ygrp-mkp .yiv9012531187ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv9012531187 #yiv9012531187ygrp-mkp .yiv9012531187ad p {margin:0;}#yiv9012531187 #yiv9012531187ygrp-mkp .yiv9012531187ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv9012531187 #yiv9012531187ygrp-sponsor #yiv9012531187ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv9012531187 #yiv9012531187ygrp-sponsor #yiv9012531187ygrp-lc #yiv9012531187hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv9012531187 #yiv9012531187ygrp-sponsor #yiv9012531187ygrp-lc .yiv9012531187ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv9012531187 #yiv9012531187actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv9012531187 #yiv9012531187activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv9012531187 #yiv9012531187activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv9012531187 #yiv9012531187activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv9012531187 #yiv9012531187activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv9012531187 #yiv9012531187activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv9012