Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Observing Guru Dev's Birthday

2005-12-22 Thread Peter


--- lupidus108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Welcome back Lups! Where you been, boyo?
> 
> Just been throughly fed up at all the garbage in
> here that's all :-)

Well, come on in! There are a good number of tasty,
fetid chunks of ofal to go around! Yummm!





> > 
> > --- lupidus108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > I was present when Maharishi talked about the
> future
> > > in terms of 
> > > teachers leaving him. He described two signs to
> look
> > > for: 
> > > 1) Strong verbal "devotion" to Guru Dev. 
> > > 2) Starting to use other pictures of Guru Dev
> than
> > > the one he choose 
> > > for Puja.
> > > 
> > > It's already happening.
> > >  
> > > Like everything else Maharishi has said will
> happen,
> > > in due time.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Nice post LB, you got it right.
> > > > 
> > > > --- L B Shriver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > I occasionally reflect on the fact that
> > > Fairfield,
> > > > > as a New World Kumbh Mela, would not 
> > > > > exist were it not for Maharishi—and, by
> > > extension,
> > > > > Guru Dev.
> > > > > 
> > > > > While I concur that reverential regard for
> > > either of
> > > > > the two is not and should not be a 
> > > > > requirement for participation in this forum,
> > > today I
> > > > > feel inclined to make a few personal 
> > > > > remarks.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Maharishi remains controversial; in the
> world at
> > > > > large, in the Movement, and on this list, 
> > > > > one finds a wide range of clinical
> evaluations
> > > and
> > > > > gut level emotional responses. When I 
> > > > > traveled in India, I also found a wide range
> of
> > > > > attitudes where Maharishi was concerned, 
> > > > > but only the highest respect for Brahmananda
> > > > > Saraswati.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Brahmanandaji has never disappointed me.
> Even
> > > though
> > > > > his teachings on the status of 
> > > > > women were somewhat disappointing in the
> context
> > > of
> > > > > our perspective, they reflected his 
> > > > > tradition more than anything else.
> Personally, I
> > > > > believe his tradition was somewhat 
> > > > > corrupted in that area. (By the way, I offer
> > > these
> > > > > remarks not as an apologist for 
> > > > > Brahmanandaji, but to forestall the
> necessity of
> > > > > having to be reminded of it.)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Brahmanadaji walked his talk.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Whatever criticisms people have about
> Maharishi,
> > > > > without him it is unlikely that many of us 
> > > > > would ever have heard about Brahmanandaji.
> In
> > > the
> > > > > big picture, without knowing what 
> > > > > kinds of tools and resources were available
> to
> > > Guru
> > > > > Dev, I'm happy that Maharishi 
> > > > > undertook his mission, whatever his motives
> may
> > > have
> > > > > been. Despite elements of the 
> > > > > Movement that in the past I have found
> > > unappealing,
> > > > > and which I continue to find 
> > > > > unappealing, I continue to sense Guru Dev's
> > > presence
> > > > > there also.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Whatever our complaints about our own lives
> or
> > > about
> > > > > the Movement, I think we can feel 
> > > > > some gratitude in knowing  that a life like
> that
> > > of
> > > > > Guru Dev has touched our own 
> > > > > existence, however distantly.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Jai Guru Dev,
> > > > > 
> > > > > L B S
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Observing Guru Dev's Birthday

2005-12-22 Thread Peter
Welcome back Lups! Where you been, boyo?

--- lupidus108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I was present when Maharishi talked about the future
> in terms of 
> teachers leaving him. He described two signs to look
> for: 
> 1) Strong verbal "devotion" to Guru Dev. 
> 2) Starting to use other pictures of Guru Dev than
> the one he choose 
> for Puja.
> 
> It's already happening.
>  
> Like everything else Maharishi has said will happen,
> in due time.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Nice post LB, you got it right.
> > 
> > --- L B Shriver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > I occasionally reflect on the fact that
> Fairfield,
> > > as a New World Kumbh Mela, would not 
> > > exist were it not for Maharishi—and, by
> extension,
> > > Guru Dev.
> > > 
> > > While I concur that reverential regard for
> either of
> > > the two is not and should not be a 
> > > requirement for participation in this forum,
> today I
> > > feel inclined to make a few personal 
> > > remarks.
> > > 
> > > Maharishi remains controversial; in the world at
> > > large, in the Movement, and on this list, 
> > > one finds a wide range of clinical evaluations
> and
> > > gut level emotional responses. When I 
> > > traveled in India, I also found a wide range of
> > > attitudes where Maharishi was concerned, 
> > > but only the highest respect for Brahmananda
> > > Saraswati.
> > > 
> > > Brahmanandaji has never disappointed me. Even
> though
> > > his teachings on the status of 
> > > women were somewhat disappointing in the context
> of
> > > our perspective, they reflected his 
> > > tradition more than anything else. Personally, I
> > > believe his tradition was somewhat 
> > > corrupted in that area. (By the way, I offer
> these
> > > remarks not as an apologist for 
> > > Brahmanandaji, but to forestall the necessity of
> > > having to be reminded of it.)
> > > 
> > > Brahmanadaji walked his talk.
> > > 
> > > Whatever criticisms people have about Maharishi,
> > > without him it is unlikely that many of us 
> > > would ever have heard about Brahmanandaji. In
> the
> > > big picture, without knowing what 
> > > kinds of tools and resources were available to
> Guru
> > > Dev, I'm happy that Maharishi 
> > > undertook his mission, whatever his motives may
> have
> > > been. Despite elements of the 
> > > Movement that in the past I have found
> unappealing,
> > > and which I continue to find 
> > > unappealing, I continue to sense Guru Dev's
> presence
> > > there also.
> > > 
> > > Whatever our complaints about our own lives or
> about
> > > the Movement, I think we can feel 
> > > some gratitude in knowing  that a life like that
> of
> > > Guru Dev has touched our own 
> > > existence, however distantly.
> > > 
> > > Jai Guru Dev,
> > > 
> > > L B S
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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