Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Being An Eagle

2013-09-21 Thread Emily Reyn
The only interesting answers are those which destroy the question. - Susan 
Sontag

Sometimes, finding an answer to a question forces you to redefine the terms of 
the question, or think differently about their relations to each other. These 
are the really interesting answers: The ones that make you change the way you 
see the world. - Anon comment




 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:46 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Being An Eagle
 


  
Judy posted an interesting question for a change:

 I wonder if it's possible for two philosophers to 
 have an argument (or just a conversation) using 
 only mathematical formulations, no words. 

I can cast third-hand hearsay evidence on this 
question. At least on the having a conversation
issue.

My grandfather worked with Albert Einstein on the
Manhattan Project, as did most of the other high-
level physicists in the US at the time. They would
occasionally get together in one of the classrooms 
of Princeton University, alone, and just jackpot
ideas. My father describes my grandfather describing
hours-long conversations in which neither of them
said a word. 

One would just scribble an unfinished equation on
one of the many blackboards in the room, and then 
step back and wait for the other to comment on it.
Sometimes the comment was another, slightly differ-
ent equation. Sometimes it was a correction to a
mistake in the original equation. Rarely -- and to
be celebrated -- there was a solution to the 
equation. 

They celebrated by going out for ice cream. Sure
sounds like a conversation to me, but not much of
an argument. 

There's a difference. 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Being An Eagle

2013-09-21 Thread Steve Sundur
can you give example of this?
 


 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Being An Eagle
  
   
 
The only interesting answers are those which destroy the question. - Susan 
Sontag

Sometimes, finding an answer to a question forces you to redefine the terms of 
the question, or think differently about their relations to each other. These 
are the really interesting answers: The ones that make you change the way you 
see the world. - Anon comment

 


 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:46 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Being An Eagle
  
  
Judy posted an interesting question for a change:   I wonder if it's possible 
for two philosophers to   have an argument (or just a conversation) using   
only mathematical formulations, no words.   I can cast third-hand hearsay 
evidence on this  question. At least on the having a conversation issue.  My 
grandfather worked with Albert Einstein on the Manhattan Project, as did most 
of the other high- level physicists in the US at the time. They would 
occasionally get together in one of the classrooms  of Princeton University, 
alone, and just jackpot ideas. My father describes my grandfather describing 
hours-long conversations in which neither of them said a word.   One would 
just scribble an unfinished equation on one of the many blackboards in the 
room, and then  step back and wait for the other to comment on it. Sometimes 
the comment was another, slightly differ- ent equation. Sometimes it was a 
correction to a mistake in the original equation.
 Rarely -- and to be celebrated -- there was a solution to the  equation.   
They celebrated by going out for ice cream. Sure sounds like a conversation to 
me, but not much of an argument.   There's a difference.
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Being An Eagle

2013-09-21 Thread Emily Reyn
No I can't.  


 From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Being An Eagle
 


  
can you give example of this?

From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Being An Eagle
 
  
The only interesting answers are those which destroy the question. - Susan 
Sontag

Sometimes, finding an answer to a question forces you to redefine the terms of 
the question, or think differently about their relations to each other. These 
are the really interesting answers: The ones that make you change the way you 
see the world. - Anon comment


From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:46 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Being An Eagle
 
  
Judy posted an interesting question for a change: 
 
 I wonder if it's possible for two philosophers to 
 have an argument (or just a conversation) using 
 only mathematical formulations, no words.  I can cast third-hand hearsay 
 evidence on this 
question. At least on the having a conversation 
issue.  My grandfather worked with Albert Einstein on the 
Manhattan Project, as did most of the other high- 
level physicists in the US at the time. They would 
occasionally get together in one of the classrooms 
of Princeton University, alone, and just jackpot 
ideas. My father describes my grandfather describing 
hours-long conversations in which neither of them 
said a word.  One would just scribble an unfinished equation on 
one of the many blackboards in the room, and then 
step back and wait for the other to comment on it. 
Sometimes the comment was another, slightly differ- 
ent equation. Sometimes it was a correction to a 
mistake in the original equation. Rarely -- and to 
be celebrated -- there was a solution to the 
equation.  They celebrated by going out for ice cream. Sure 
sounds like a conversation to me, but not much of 
an argument.   There's a difference. 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Being An Eagle

2013-09-21 Thread Steve Sundur
I don't think I can either, unless it would be something like,
 
The ice cream was delicious
  


 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Being An Eagle
  
   
 
No I can't.   


 From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Being An Eagle
  
  
can you give example of this?
 


 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Being An Eagle
  
  
The only interesting answers are those which destroy the question. - Susan 
Sontag

Sometimes, finding an answer to a question forces you to redefine the terms of 
the question, or think differently about their relations to each other. These 
are the really interesting answers: The ones that make you change the way you 
see the world. - Anon comment

 


 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:46 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Being An Eagle
  
  
Judy posted an interesting question for a change: 
 
 I wonder if it's possible for two philosophers to 
 have an argument (or just a conversation) using 
 only mathematical formulations, no words.  I can cast third-hand hearsay 
 evidence on this 
question. At least on the having a conversation 
issue.  My grandfather worked with Albert Einstein on the 
Manhattan Project, as did most of the other high- 
level physicists in the US at the time. They would 
occasionally get together in one of the classrooms 
of Princeton University, alone, and just jackpot 
ideas. My father describes my grandfather describing 
hours-long conversations in which neither of them 
said a word.  One would just scribble an unfinished equation on 
one of the many blackboards in the room, and then 
step back and wait for the other to comment on it. 
Sometimes the comment was another, slightly differ- 
ent equation. Sometimes it was a correction to a 
mistake in the original equation. Rarely -- and to 
be celebrated -- there was a solution to the 
equation.  They celebrated by going out for ice cream. Sure 
sounds like a conversation to me, but not much of 
an argument.   There's a difference.  
 

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Being An Eagle

2013-09-21 Thread authfriend