Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prelude to a Dictatorship

2016-09-08 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
Most of the crimes you listed in your post are violent ones; and they're 
obviously the crimes that most seriously victimize people, so it does make 
sense to focus on them. Also, those are the crimes Trump is making such a fuss 
about. Plus which, you can't just count federal crimes; it's not as if only 
federal crimes have victims.
 

 Finally, that 27% figure you cite hasn't changed in quite a few years, so the 
idea that there's currently some kind of undocumented immigrant crime wave is 
nonsense even if you look just at federal crime.
 

 So I repeat: Recent studies have shown that undocumented immigrants commit far 
less violent crime than native-born Americans. And that makes a liar of Trump 
and the rest of the hysterical anti-immigrant crowd.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 
 http://www.gao.gov/assets/320/316959.pdf 
http://www.gao.gov/assets/320/316959.pdfIt's not just *violent crime* Judy.
 When 27% of federally incarcerated prisoners are illegal... that's too much.

 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 6:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prelude to a Dictatorship
 
 
   You said that, I didn't. Point being, of course, that the right-wingers and 
alt-righters you've been reading and listening to (including Trump) have been 
lying to you about the amount of violent crimes committed by undocumented 
immigrants. And you've never questioned what you've been told.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 As if to say a little more won't hurt.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 4:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prelude to a Dictatorship

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 (snip)
 

 Absolutely! Do you know how much crime is committed by illegals here? Drugs, 
murder,sex trafficking, kidnapping, rape, molestation, robbery, including mass 
shootings and terrorism.

 

 Actually, recent studies have shown that undocumented immigrants commit far 
less violent crime than native-born Americans:
 

 Voices: How violent are undocumented immigrants? 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/16/voices-gomez-undocumented-immigrant-crime-san-francisco-shooting/30159479/
 
 
 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/16/voices-gomez-undocumented-immigrant-crime-san-francisco-shooting/30159479/
 
 Voices: How violent are undocumented immigrants? 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/16/voices-gomez-undocumented-immigrant-crime-san-francisco-shooting/30159479/
 MIAMI - The war over illegal immigration in this country has, unfortunately, 
usually been fought through hyperbole. Undocumented immigrants who are val...


 
 View on www.usatoday.com 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/16/voices-gomez-undocumented-immigrant-crime-san-francisco-shooting/30159479/
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prelude to a Dictatorship

2016-09-08 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
http://www.gao.gov/assets/320/316959.pdfIt's not just *violent crime* Judy.When 
27% of federally incarcerated prisoners are illegal... that's too much.


  From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 6:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prelude to a Dictatorship
   
    You said that, I didn't. Point being, of course, that the right-wingers and 
alt-righters you've been reading and listening to (including Trump) have been 
lying to you about the amount of violent crimes committed by undocumented 
immigrants. And you've never questioned what you've been told.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

As if to say a little more won't hurt.


  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 4:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prelude to a Dictatorship
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

(snip)
Absolutely! Do you know how much crime is committed by illegals here? Drugs, 
murder,sex trafficking, kidnapping, rape, molestation, robbery, including mass 
shootings and terrorism.

Actually, recent studies have shown that undocumented immigrants commit far 
less violent crime than native-born Americans:
Voices: How violent are undocumented immigrants?
|  |
|  | |  | Voices: How violent are undocumented immigrants? MIAMI - The 
war over illegal immigration in this country has, unfortunately, usually been 
fought through hyperbole. Undocumented immigrants who are val... |  |
| View on www.usatoday.com|   Preview by Yahoo  |
|  |

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prelude to a Dictatorship

2016-09-07 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
You said that, I didn't. Point being, of course, that the right-wingers and 
alt-righters you've been reading and listening to (including Trump) have been 
lying to you about the amount of violent crimes committed by undocumented 
immigrants. And you've never questioned what you've been told. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 As if to say a little more won't hurt.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 4:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prelude to a Dictatorship
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 (snip)
 

 Absolutely! Do you know how much crime is committed by illegals here? Drugs, 
murder,sex trafficking, kidnapping, rape, molestation, robbery, including mass 
shootings and terrorism.

 

 Actually, recent studies have shown that undocumented immigrants commit far 
less violent crime than native-born Americans:
 

 Voices: How violent are undocumented immigrants? 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/16/voices-gomez-undocumented-immigrant-crime-san-francisco-shooting/30159479/
 
 
 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/16/voices-gomez-undocumented-immigrant-crime-san-francisco-shooting/30159479/
 
 Voices: How violent are undocumented immigrants? 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/16/voices-gomez-undocumented-immigrant-crime-san-francisco-shooting/30159479/
 MIAMI - The war over illegal immigration in this country has, unfortunately, 
usually been fought through hyperbole. Undocumented immigrants who are val...


 
 View on www.usatoday.com 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/16/voices-gomez-undocumented-immigrant-crime-san-francisco-shooting/30159479/
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prelude to a Dictatorship

2016-09-07 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
As if to say a little more won't hurt.


  From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 4:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prelude to a Dictatorship
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

(snip)
Absolutely! Do you know how much crime is committed by illegals here? Drugs, 
murder,sex trafficking, kidnapping, rape, molestation, robbery, including mass 
shootings and terrorism.

Actually, recent studies have shown that undocumented immigrants commit far 
less violent crime than native-born Americans:
Voices: How violent are undocumented immigrants? 
||
||||   Voices: How violent are undocumented immigrants?  
MIAMI - The war over illegal immigration in this country has, unfortunately, 
usually been fought through hyperbole. Undocumented immigrants who are val...   
 ||
|  View on www.usatoday.com  |Preview by Yahoo|
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prelude to a Dictatorship

2016-09-07 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 (snip)
 

 Absolutely! Do you know how much crime is committed by illegals here? Drugs, 
murder,sex trafficking, kidnapping, rape, molestation, robbery, including mass 
shootings and terrorism.

 

 Actually, recent studies have shown that undocumented immigrants commit far 
less violent crime than native-born Americans:
 

 Voices: How violent are undocumented immigrants? 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/16/voices-gomez-undocumented-immigrant-crime-san-francisco-shooting/30159479/
 
 
 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/16/voices-gomez-undocumented-immigrant-crime-san-francisco-shooting/30159479/
 
 
 Voices: How violent are undocumented immigrants? 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/16/voices-gomez-undocumented-immigrant-crime-san-francisco-shooting/30159479/
 MIAMI - The war over illegal immigration in this country has, unfortunately, 
usually been fought through hyperbole. Undocumented immigrants who are val...
 
 
 
 View on www.usatoday.com 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/16/voices-gomez-undocumented-immigrant-crime-san-francisco-shooting/30159479/
 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prelude to a Dictatorship

2016-09-07 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
John there is a law that the military can not interfere in domestic policy. All 
police forces are state and locally controlled. However, Obama would love to 
have a national/federal police force that could over ride locals.Mexicans will 
ultimately pay for the wall.Trump will tax remittances sent back to Mexico. 
Mexican economy depends greatly on the money illegals send back home. Every 
time one buys a hundred dollar money order or cashiers check going to Mexico, 
there will be a significant tax placed on it. They, the ones that broke the law 
will pay for the wall.

  He wants to have a thorough vetting of all immigrants, refugees, and 
visitors, especially Muslims, before being accepted into the country.

Absolutely! Do you know how much crime is committed by illegals here? Drugs, 
murder,sex trafficking, kidnapping, rape, molestation, robbery, including mass 
shootings and terrorism.Everyone immigrating here should be thoroughly vetted. 
No one has a *right* to immigrate here. People need to have something of value 
to offer that will make America a better place. 
  From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 2:43 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prelude to a Dictatorship
   
    

Judy,
All you have to do is connect the dots and you'll see the overall picture.  For 
example, follow where the money will go.  He proposes to build a wall to keep 
Mexicans out of the country.  And he wants the government of Mexico to pay for 
the construction of the wall.  He wants to deport all illegal immigrants who 
are living in the USA.
Where is he going to get the money to do all that policing and enforcement of 
his plan?  He would need a  strong military and police force to carry out his 
campaign promises.  He will soon reveal what he wants to do with ISIS, the rest 
of the Middle East, China, Russia and the national debt.  You will find a 
common theme and all you have to do is connect the dots.  Can't you see it?
How do you think Hitler built his Third Reich in Germany?  He manipulated the 
people to do what he wants.  Trump is doing the same thing now.  When will the 
Americans wake up?


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

That's not his plan, John. That's just a silly conspiracy theory.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jr_esq@...> wrote :

Trump proposes to increase military spending, more likely increase in salaries, 
in preparation for his secret agenda to take over the government.  If he has 
control over the military, who can stop him from controlling the American 
people and the world?  "Let's make America great again" is a code word for his 
reign as the dictator of the US.  Will the Americans buy his plan?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-promises-huge-boost-in-military-spending/ar-AAiAxSg?li=BBmkt5R=spartanntp



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prelude to a Dictatorship

2016-09-07 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
I don't think Trump's followers will go along with it because they are 
pretty much against "wars of empire" and the military industrial complex.


On 09/07/2016 12:43 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:




Judy,

All you have to do is connect the dots and you'll see the overall 
picture.  For example, follow where the money will go.  He proposes to 
build a wall to keep Mexicans out of the country.  And he wants the 
government of Mexico to pay for the construction of the wall.  He 
wants to deport all illegal immigrants who are living in the USA.  He 
wants to have a thorough vetting of all immigrants, refugees, and 
visitors, especially Muslims, before being accepted into the country.


Where is he going to get the money to do all that policing and 
enforcement of his plan?  He would need a  strong military and police 
force to carry out his campaign promises.  He will soon reveal what he 
wants to do with ISIS, the rest of the Middle East, China, Russia and 
the national debt.  You will find a common theme and all you have to 
do is connect the dots.  Can't you see it?


How do you think Hitler built his Third Reich in Germany?  He 
manipulated the people to do what he wants.  Trump is doing the same 
thing now. When will the Americans wake up?




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

That's not his plan, John. That's just a silly conspiracy theory.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Trump proposes to increase military spending, more likely increase in 
salaries, in preparation for his secret agenda to take over the 
government.  If he has control over the military, who can stop him 
from controlling the American people and the world?  "Let's make 
America great again" is a code word for his reign as the dictator of 
the US.  Will the Americans buy his plan?



_http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-promises-huge-boost-in-military-spending/ar-AAiAxSg?li=BBmkt5R=spartanntp_