Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million?
On Jun 22, 2006, at 6:28 AM, nablus108 wrote:I'm sure those that are patient and positive will get the opportunity to teach again sometime in the future.Read: in their next life. And since much of what Maharishi is doing is impossible to understand intellectually I will not even try to predict when this could happen.Read: the early stages of senile dementia can be entertaining but frustrating. Don't worry, it's just the forgetful aspect of the unified field It's all just part of his Lila. Yeah, that's the ticket. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million?
On Jun 20, 2006, at 9:18 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 20, 2006, at 7:24 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: The new issue of What Is Enlightenment? has an article on SSRS which says he has instructed over 20 million people in meditation. Is that more than TM? He's also had 2.5 million people show up for a massive meditation session last February 17 in his hometown of Bangalore! Way to go Ravi!BTW, where is the independent Indian newspaper coverageof this 2.5 million person meditation. Even by Hindu standards, that's a HUGE gathering of people. And, unless most of them are from Bangalore, that's a HUGE strain on the local infrastructure. How many broken sewer lines? How many new turds floating in the street's open sewers, etc? Where did the water come from? The food? The parking? The housing? The WIE article has details. There's lot of stuff you don't see--like him sending delegations volatile Kashmir, etc. The WIE has details provided by him and his people. Where's the independent articles? India newspapers. The aerial shots were interesting--they had these huge video screens so the proceeds could be seen by more people. The stage itself was 3.5 acres!6000 / 250 = .24 % __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million?
In a message dated 6/21/06 10:35:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The technique is far from what has been described as TM+advanced technique; it's just a simple pranayama, and Ravi is just a simple, but probably nice fellow that needs to do some serious sadhana. Wrong. The Sudarshana Kriya technique is the series of breathing techniques. But he also teaches what he calls Sahaja Samadhi meditation, which is the TM technique as it is taught in India, which combines what we learn in the west as TM plus one of the advanced techniques, so I'm told. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million?
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million? on 6/21/06 7:03 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The WIE has details provided by him and his people. Where's the independent articles? One of Ammas senior swamis told me that SSRS made a big show of doing a lot of tsunami disaster relief in Sri Lanka, but when Ammas crew got there to do some actual work, officials complained to them that the SSRS group had apparently just been seeking publicity, and hadnt actually done anything. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million?
Didn't MMY once say when talking about building SV communities that they couldn't all be mansions, that even the poor people have to have a place to live? Well since MMY wants only to teach TM to the rich, I guess somebody has to be able to teach it to the poor thus we have the AOL organization. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million?
nablus108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jun 20, 2006, at 7:24 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: The new issue of What Is Enlightenment? has an article on SSRS which says he has instructed over 20 million people in meditation. Is that more than TM? He's also had 2.5 million people show up for a massive meditation session last February 17 in his hometown of Bangalore! Way to go Ravi! BTW, where is the independent Indian newspaper coverageof this 2.5 million person meditation. Even by Hindu standards, that's a HUGE gathering of people. And, unless most of them are from Bangalore, that's a HUGE strain on the local infrastructure. How many broken sewer lines? How many new turds floating in the street's open sewers, etc? Where did the water come from? The food? The parking? The housing? The WIE article has details. There's lot of stuff you don't see-- like him sending delegations volatile Kashmir, etc. The WIE has details provided by him and his people. Where's the independent articles? This Ravi Shankar thing is mainly moodmaking; look into each others eyes and tell them you love them, hold each others hands and form a circle, blabla etcetc. The technique is far from what has been described as TM+advanced technique; it's just a simple pranayama, and Ravi is just a simple, but probably nice fellow that needs to do some serious sadhana. In a talkshow I watched in India he was asked how it felt to be a guru. He blushed intensely, denying he was a guru, the whole thing got very comical. The fellow abviously wants to be a guru, but does not have the credidentials. He may not have the credentials to be *saint* but he has the credentials to be a guru. Westerners have perverted the meaning of guru which means someone who has mastered something and teaches it. If you mastered a certain style of playing guitar and people wanted to learn from you then you are a genuine guru of that method. Westerners don't want gurus but pop saints. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Hik1AB/bOaOAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million?
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million? on 6/21/06 12:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't MMY once say when talking about building SV communities that they couldn't all be mansions, that even the poor people have to have a place to live? Well since MMY wants only to teach TM to the rich, I guess somebody has to be able to teach it to the poor thus we have the AOL organization. MMY once referred to SV as entertainment for the wealthy. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million?
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million? on 6/21/06 12:45 PM, new_morning_blank_slate at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/21/06 7:03 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The WIE has details provided by him and his people. Where's the independent articles? One of Ammas senior swamis told me that SSRS made a big show of doing a lot of tsunami disaster relief in Sri Lanka, but when Ammas crew got there to do some actual work, officials complained to them that the SSRS group had apparently just been seeking publicity, and hadnt actually done anything. I think selfless, simple, non-PR-focussed, group service projects by any spriritually oriented group, are a great way to create word-or-mouth and good buzz about a particular program. They can also be very good for the participants evolution. Ego-attenuating; heart-developing. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million?
How entertaining can it be sitting in a home that has all the warmth of Fort Knox? Sal On Jun 21, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Rick Archer wrote: MMY once referred to SV as “entertainment for the wealthy.” __._,_.___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million?
In a message dated 6/21/06 1:26:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He may not have the credentials to be *saint* but he has the credentials to be a guru. Westerners have perverted the meaning of "guru" which means someone who has mastered something and teaches it. If you mastered a certain style of playing guitar and people wanted to learn from you then you are a genuine "guru" of that method. Westerners don't want gurus but "pop saints." From my personal experience, I would put him in the category of Saint. I have been to see him speak twice and found him absolutely glowing. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million?
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million? on 6/21/06 2:21 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] And do they teach a more about Indian philosophy and traditions than TM ever did? I know quite a few people that walked away from TM because they wanted to know more of this and there wasn't that much outside of the Gita commentary. What, a PhD in Vedic Science isn't enough? You know how you get those? You read all the Vedic literature in Sanskrit, even though you dont know what youre reading (because you dont speak Sanskrit). __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million?
It was not in the article, it was what MDixon said Trigunaji commented on, that people who practiced the Sudarshan Kriya had lots of prana:"A TM teacher friend that knew several people that also did Sudarshana Kriya, said that Triguna used to remark how the people that did that kriya had such an abundance of prana. Supposedly it also made TM and Sidhi practice much more powerful, more energy."On Jun 21, 2006, at 7:46 AM, wayback71 wrote: Vaj - what did Triguna say in the article about SSRS? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: The new issue of What Is Enlightenment? has an article on SSRS which says he has instructed over 20 million people in meditation. snip In terms of technical and practical reasons, SSRS's sadhanas are a step up from TM--perhaps we should look at it as an evolving lineage coming from SBS and M. and the old technique (of TM) improving (interestingly through the yogic cognition of SSRS, who cognized the Sudarshan kriya). It's certainly clear (comparing the two) which one nature's supporting and which one is fadin' away... Interesting comments by Trigunaji too, love it. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million?
In a message dated 6/21/06 1:48:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: on 6/21/06 12:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't MMY once say when talking about building SV communities that they couldn't all be mansions, that even the poor people have to have a place to live? Well since MMY wants only to teach TM to the rich, I guess somebody has to be able to teach it to the poor thus we have the AOL organization.MMY once referred to SV as “entertainment for the wealthy.” Obviously MMY wants to focus his attention only on the wealthy in his last remaining years perhaps polishing up a few disciples to carry on for him. It almost seems to me as if he has directly or indirectly handed off the torch of meditation for the masses to somebody with the youth, energyand ability to willing to do so. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million?
In a message dated 6/21/06 12:16:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One of Amma’s senior swamis told me that SSRS made a big show of doing a lot of tsunami disaster relief in Sri Lanka, but when Amma’s crew got there to do some actual work, officials complained to them that the SSRS group had apparently just been seeking publicity, and hadn’t actually done anything. Uh Oh! Guru wars! __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million?
On Jun 21, 2006, at 12:01 PM, nablus108 wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" sparaig@ wrote: So SSRS only uses meditation teachers who have pledged to only teach TM under the auspices of the TMO... And whose teacher and organization refuse to allow them to teach, unless they spend several thousand dollars to be "recertified" at something they are already proficient in, give up their jobs, and agree to work full-time for a salary that never arrives in the mail. All of this so that they can *not* teach, because the technique is priced so high that no one sane would ever pay that much to learn it. Well, duh. If your calling is to teach meditation and the org you first signed up with actively prevents you from teaching meditation, you go where someone *will* allow you to teach. You folks who never taught meditation are sometimes awfully quick to demonize those who did, and want nothing more than to continue doing so... Dear friend, What Maharishi has done resently is a test. Just keep that desire to teach lively within you and it will be fulfilled. Jai Guru Dev PS: Don't hold your breath... __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million?
On Jun 21, 2006, at 7:29 PM, new.morning wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: He's also had 2.5 million people show up for a massive meditation session last February 17 in his hometown of Bangalore! A few hundred thousand people (according to the reports Icould find) is not 2.5 million. SOunds like SSRS has taken a page from MMY's PR manual. Following is a pre-event announcement. 2 lakh = 200,000. This event has drawn international attention and over 2 lakh people are expected to take part in Mahakriya supervised by Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. http://www.newindpress.com/2006/artofliving/index.asp The Aol sites reports: Watching the crowds, crossing one million every day for 3 days, (did any come for more than one day?) http://www.silverjubilee.org/index.htm Thanks, beautiful website for the event. Quite incredible. This is what I like to see in a worldwide movement! __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million?
On Jun 21, 2006, at 7:41 PM, Vaj wrote:On Jun 21, 2006, at 7:29 PM, new.morning wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:He's also had 2.5 million people show up for a massivemeditationsession last February 17 in his hometown of Bangalore!A few hundred thousand people (according to the reports Icould find)is not 2.5 million. SOunds like SSRS has taken a page from MMY's PR manual.Following is a pre-event announcement. 2 lakh = 200,000.This event has drawn international attention and over 2 lakh peopleare expected to take part in Mahakriya supervised by Sri Sri RaviShankar. http://www.newindpress.com/2006/artofliving/index.aspThe Aol sites reports:Watching the crowds, crossing one million every day for 3 days, (did any come for more than one day?)http://www.silverjubilee.org/index.htmThanks, beautiful website for the event. Quite incredible. This is what I like to see in a worldwide movement!It sounds like it may have also been the largest mantra initiation in history:"Around 9.45 pm a pin drop silence descended as Sri Sri administered the meditation technique to the assembly."http://www.silverjubilee.org/day1.htmWow--that is incredible.It seems clear to me after all this that M.'s earlier press conference remarks was most likely referring to SSRS, not independents. He was giving his blessing to SSRS...and boy did the disciple follow through! __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million?
In a message dated 6/21/06 11:05:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" shempmcgurk@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 6/20/06 7:09:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, sparaig@ writes:So SSRS only uses meditation teachers who have pledged to only teach TM under the auspices of the TMO and he reveres MMY has his teacher? Something "off" here. Maybe not, he doesn't call it Transcendental Meditation. ...then we are satisfied...Basically what this means is that these "TM-teachers" that Ravi Shankar has enlisted are liers, pretending to represent the Holy Tradition. But what they are doing is feeding their egos and wallets. Not very different from the so-called "independents". I can't speak for SSRS but I bet he would consider himself the next step in the Holy Tradition. He claims that Maharishi told him to go and give this knowledge and gave him his blessings. There came a time when Guru Dev's master could do no more for him and sent him on his way. Does that mean Guru Dev was not allowed to teach the knowledge he had received from his master? Of course not. Once you possess the knowledge, it's your's to keep or share. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million?
On Jun 21, 2006, at 9:13 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 21, 2006, at 7:41 PM, Vaj wrote: On Jun 21, 2006, at 7:29 PM, new.morning wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: He's also had 2.5 million people show up for a massive meditation session last February 17 in his hometown of Bangalore! A few hundred thousand people (according to the reports Icould find) is not 2.5 million. SOunds like SSRS has taken a page from MMY's PR manual. Following is a pre-event announcement. 2 lakh = 200,000. This event has drawn international attention and over 2 lakh people are expected to take part in Mahakriya supervised by Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. http://www.newindpress.com/2006/artofliving/index.asp The Aol sites reports: Watching the crowds, crossing one million every day for 3 days, (did any come for more than one day?) http://www.silverjubilee.org/index.htm Thanks, beautiful website for the event. Quite incredible. This is what I like to see in a worldwide movement! It sounds like it may have also been the largest mantra initiation in history: "Around 9.45 pm a pin drop silence descended as Sri Sri administered the meditation technique to the assembly." http://www.silverjubilee.org/day1.htm Wow--that is incredible. Just for the record, this was a *huge* spectacle, with lots of entertainment--music, singing, chanting, dancing--and speeches by prominent persons. Something for everybody, a great big party. At one point on the third evening he had the whole crowd doing the breathing techniques. That must have been a sight to behold. There's a picture of it at:http://www.silverjubilee.org/images/new/i1.jpg __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
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While I have no real qualms with SSRS himself, his organization, at least when I was involved (which was only for a little over a year in the 90s), almost made the TMO look good--and that ain't easy. On the first course I took, without telling us before hand, they made the announcement at the first meeting that we would all be on a fruit diet, for the entire course--6 days. Not only was that a dirty trick (IMO of course--perhaps others liked it) but couldn't that possibly affect someone's health, if they were diabetic, or had digestive problems? To make matters worse, I and a number of others were housed in the building adjacent to his...with the lovely smell of delicious Indian food wafting over 3 times daily. Try fasting with **that** happening. Anyway, of course we cheated--why not, he was--and went into town where I and a few others had at least a couple of decent meals. But we sure didn't appreciate having to shell out yet more $$ after having paid for room and board for the course...the worst part being, IMO, that nobody had bothered to tell us beforehand--a deliberate omission, because they were afraid nobody would come otherwise? Who knows. Then there were the meetings themselves, at which any number of people would be fighting with each other--literally--to sit as close to the front as possible. The second course, the one in Pittsburgh, was another classic Oops, they did it again... scenario. This one was so bad it would make a great plot for a movie where nothing goes right. It wasn't enough that they put all of us into smoking rooms--so when you turned on the heat (it was February) you got blasted with enough cigarette smoke to choke an elephant--they then pulled Trick #2. Into tiny rooms in which we barely had enough space to walk, those of us on the long part of the course (6 days) then had to share whatever microscopic amount of free space was left with the 2-day course participants--I doubt they knew that was going to happen, and I know we didn't. Add to that that there were a couple of TM vagrants who hadn't registered and were staying at the hotel illegally, seriously ticking off the management, and you have the makings for, possibly, the Worst Course Ever. I have no idea how much of all of this SSRS knew about, but it was his organization and he does bear some of the responsibility. On a personal level, I felt he was much warmer and more approachable than MMY. But after those two disasters, I pretty much gave up on all of them. Sal On Jun 20, 2006, at 4:26 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jody at http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/ has an entirely different perspective on SSRS. Gosh, you mean Sri Sri *isn't* MMY with all the mistakes taken out?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million?
Funky! Sal Sunshine wrote: While I have no real qualms with SSRS himself, his organization, at least when I was involved (which was only for a little over a year in the 90s), almost made the TMO look good--and that ain't easy. On the first course I took, without telling us before hand, they made the announcement at the first meeting that we would all be on a fruit diet, for the entire course--6 days. Not only was that a dirty trick (IMO of course--perhaps others liked it) but couldn't that possibly affect someone's health, if they were diabetic, or had digestive problems? To make matters worse, I and a number of others were housed in the building adjacent to his...with the lovely smell of delicious Indian food wafting over 3 times daily. Try fasting with **that** happening. Anyway, of course we cheated--why not, he was--and went into town where I and a few others had at least a couple of decent meals. But we sure didn't appreciate having to shell out yet more $$ after having paid for room and board for the course...the worst part being, IMO, that nobody had bothered to tell us beforehand--a deliberate omission, because they were afraid nobody would come otherwise? Who knows. Then there were the meetings themselves, at which any number of people would be fighting with each other--literally--to sit as close to the front as possible. The second course, the one in Pittsburgh, was another classic Oops, they did it again... scenario. This one was so bad it would make a great plot for a movie where nothing goes right. It wasn't enough that they put all of us into smoking rooms--so when you turned on the heat (it was February) you got blasted with enough cigarette smoke to choke an elephant--they then pulled Trick #2. Into tiny rooms in which we barely had enough space to walk, those of us on the long part of the course (6 days) then had to share whatever microscopic amount of free space was left with the 2-day course participants--I doubt they knew that was going to happen, and I know we didn't. Add to that that there were a couple of TM vagrants who hadn't registered and were staying at the hotel illegally, seriously ticking off the management, and you have the makings for, possibly, the Worst Course Ever. I have no idea how much of all of this SSRS knew about, but it was his organization and he does bear some of the responsibility. On a personal level, I felt he was much warmer and more approachable than MMY. But after those two disasters, I pretty much gave up on all of them. Sal On Jun 20, 2006, at 4:26 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jody at http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/ has an entirely different perspective on SSRS. Gosh, you mean Sri Sri *isn't* MMY with all the mistakes taken out? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Your favorite religious organization? Make a donation at Network for Good. http://us.click.yahoo.com/EOl1HB/LPaOAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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In a message dated 6/20/06 5:21:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It wasn't enough that they put all of us into smoking rooms--so when you turned on the heat (it was February) you got blasted with enough cigarette smoke to choke an elephant--they then pulled Trick I had this exact same problem on my Sidhi Flying course. Smoker room in DC and got bronchitis and was generally miserable and coughing the whole time. Coughing so much I couldn't settle in Meditation. I left DC with a fever. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
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In a message dated 6/20/06 6:57:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He's also had 2.5 million people show up for a massive meditation session last February 17 in his hometown of Bangalore! Way to go Ravi!BTW, where is the independent Indian newspaper coverageof this 2.5 million person meditation. Even by Hindu standards, that's a HUGE gathering of people. And, unless most of them are from Bangalore, that's a HUGE strain on the local infrastructure. How many broken sewer lines? How many new turds floating in the street's open sewers, etc? Where did the water come from? The food? The parking? The housing? Some AOL people from Houston told me thatpeople went there from all over the world and they had been aware of planning for months. But I would imagine the overwhelming majority were Indian and living close to Bangalore. It would be interesting to know how everybody was accomadated. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
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In a message dated 6/20/06 6:08:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He identifies MMY as his master, does he not? Does he have them do a puja to MMY? Very much so. He has the initiators do the same Puja they were trained to do. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
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In a message dated 6/20/06 7:09:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So SSRS only uses meditation teachers who have pledged to only teach TM under the auspices of the TMO and he reveres MMY has his teacher?Something "off" here. Maybe not, he doesn't call it Transcendental Meditation. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
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It seemed especially ironic that this occurred during a course that emphasized a breathing technique. Sal On Jun 20, 2006, at 7:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/20/06 5:21:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: x-tad-smallerIt wasn't enough that /x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerthey put all of us into smoking rooms--so when you turned on the heat /x-tad-smaller x-tad-smaller(it was February) you got blasted with enough cigarette smoke to choke /x-tad-smaller x-tad-smalleran elephant--they then pulled Trick/x-tad-smaller x-tad-biggerI had this exact same problem on my Sidhi Flying course. Smoker room in DC and got bronchitis and was generally miserable and coughing the whole time. Coughing so much I couldn't settle in Meditation. I left DC with a fever./x-tad-bigger __._,_.___
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On Jun 20, 2006, at 7:24 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The new issue of What Is Enlightenment? has an article on SSRS which says he has instructed over 20 million people in meditation. Is that more than TM? He's also had 2.5 million people show up for a massive meditation session last February 17 in his hometown of Bangalore! Way to go Ravi!BTW, where is the independent Indian newspaper coverageof this 2.5 million person meditation. Even by Hindu standards, that's a HUGE gathering of people. And, unless most of them are from Bangalore, that's a HUGE strain on the local infrastructure. How many broken sewer lines? How many new turds floating in the street's open sewers, etc? Where did the water come from? The food? The parking? The housing? The WIE article has details. There's lot of stuff you don't see--like him sending delegations volatile Kashmir, etc. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
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On Jun 20, 2006, at 7:05 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The new issue of What Is Enlightenment? has an article on SSRS which says he has instructed over 20 million people in meditation. Is that more than TM? Waay more.Yep, thought so--must be increasing charm... He's also had 2.5 million people show up for a massive meditation session last February 17 in his hometown of Bangalore! So where's the research on his meditation technique?Use to be on the AoL site, but there is not as much an emphasis on scientific PR that I see in his movement.In terms of technical and practical reasons, SSRS's sadhanas are a step up from TM--perhaps we should look at it as an evolving lineage coming from SBS and M. and the old technique (of TM) improving (interestingly through the yogic cognition of SSRS, who cognized the Sudarshan kriya). It's certainly clear (comparing the two) which one nature's supporting and which one is fadin' away...Interesting comments by Trigunaji too, love it. Way to go Ravi! __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
