Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Share, Judy and Robin, was J gets another fact wrong and S apologizes to R

2013-04-30 Thread Michael Jackson


I assume you write these things to amuse yourself, I hope so because if you are 
serious you are showing amazing stupidity and ignorance.

I was never a student at MIU - I was on staff.

There was no degree in baking at MIU nor is there one now at MUM. They don't 
and didn't seem to value practical degrees, just mainly degrees in vedic this 
and that and consciousness that and this.

I already gave you the names of most of the cooks in the time I was there - the 
fact that you don't know then is none of my concern

Why I bother to respond to your ignorance is beyond me - I guess if when I was 
the baker I had fashioned buddhist stupas out of dough and worn them on my 
head, I might have gotten more out of my time at Marshy I want your money 
University.



 From: Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:21 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Share, Judy and Robin, was J gets another fact 
wrong and S apologizes to R
 


  


Share Long:
 Richard, is this there one of them there red 
 herrings or Aunt Sallys or straw individuals?

No, just free advice so you don't get your mind
raped. LoL!

 And hopefully by now MJ realizes that you love 
 to taunt him about allegedly being an MIU student.

Never heard of a college student that didn't take
English or History. There's no 'MJ' Share, it's 
just another anonymous informant, poioning the well. 

Nobody I know ever heard of him up there, baking 
or otherwise. So, we haven't heard the full story,
obviously. After reading TM discussion groups for
fifteen years, I can say without the least
hesitation, there's always an untold story. Take
the example of Lon P. Stacks or Steve Perino.

Why anyone would want to be a 'baker' up at MIU 
and not pursue a degree in cookin is beyond me.

Curtis got a degree in Philosophy up there and
Kirk Bernhardt got a degree in English from MIU,
so I know it can be done. So, what's the point?

Alex don't need no stinkin' MUM degree because 
he's already living in Heaven on Earth out there.

Go figure.

  Ok, Judy, apologies accepted, thank you.
 
 When someone says they believe they can tell
 you what to think, you have the right to tell
 them you believe you have the right to tell 
 them where to go. LoL!
 
  Moving on, you think I was wrong when I said 
  psychologically raped to Robin.  I think I 
  was emotionally upset, as well as overwhelmed 
  by many other inputs.  I think I was lacking 
  in psychological development.  I think I was 
  lacking in certain communication skills. 
  
  Nonetheless I think my POV is more accurate and 
  inclusive of the whole truth than yours. And my 
  inner Xeno is smiling wryly about that. 
  
  My statements on and about Sept 6 were all 
  genuine expressions of how I was feeling when I 
  wrote them. Even now I assess those posts as 
  accurately reporting that I was very upset with 
  Robin and also giving him the benefit of the 
  doubt because I wanted to see if there was a 
  way to continue being friends.  It is true that
   I was experiencing a mix and range of physical 
  and emotional states from grumpiness to feeling 
  psychologically raped. 
  
  Mix and range of inner experiences is something 
  humans experience. Though evidently not all 
  humans recognize this fact. 
  
  In addition, every time Xeno, Curtis, Steve, 
  feste and others write about this, their clarity 
  and greater objectivity has helped me understand 
  what was often subjective and emotionally 
  challenging for me.  So I am grateful to them all 
  for helping me find the words to understand events 
  and individuals that I'm still trying to understand.
  And I continue to incorporate their understandings 
  and wordings into my thinking and writing about it.
  EMILY, take note, my incorporating of the insights 
  of others will continue to happen.
  
  Judy, it's not that I keep going lower and lower.
  It's that your assessment of your POV keeps going 
  higher and higher.  Indicating only that it's all 
  relative.
  
  As for your concern about Robin's reputation, as 
  one poster recently said here, what I said was a blip 
  on the screen in comparison to Robin's own posts.
  I'd add that the postings of many of his supporters 
  also affects his reputation negatively, as difficult 
  as that might be for them to acknowledge.  
  
  Reasonable people everywhere will consider all that 
  is pertinent.  Or maybe ignore the whole thing. 
  Beyond that it is the workings of karma.
  
  
   Poor archives, still being selectively eschewed by Judy.
   Correcting Judy:  I joined FFL in May 2012 and Robin
   rejoined in June 2012.
  
  You are absolutely right, my mistake, and my apologies.
  
  Robin *first* joined FFL in June 2011, left in January
  2012, and returned in June. You joined in May 2012,
  as you say. Apparently I conflated the two June dates.
  I should have double-checked.
  
  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Share, Judy and Robin, was J gets another fact wrong and S apologizes to R

2013-04-30 Thread Share Long
RICHARD!  I think I'm doing pretty dang good with the boundary setting but 
YMMV.  Go figure and LOL too!  Actually I think MIU did have some certificate 
programs for cooking and woodworking and ayurveda teching and such.    


PS I admit that after my posts to Doc this morning I'm worried that Robin will 
henceforth be known in cyberspace as he who psychologically raped a Seriously 
Excitable Vegetable.        



 From: Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 10:21 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Share, Judy and Robin, was J gets another fact 
wrong and S apologizes to R
 


  


Share Long:
 Richard, is this there one of them there red 
 herrings or Aunt Sallys or straw individuals?

No, just free advice so you don't get your mind
raped. LoL!

 And hopefully by now MJ realizes that you love 
 to taunt him about allegedly being an MIU student.

Never heard of a college student that didn't take
English or History. There's no 'MJ' Share, it's 
just another anonymous informant, poioning the well. 

Nobody I know ever heard of him up there, baking 
or otherwise. So, we haven't heard the full story,
obviously. After reading TM discussion groups for
fifteen years, I can say without the least
hesitation, there's always an untold story. Take
the example of Lon P. Stacks or Steve Perino.

Why anyone would want to be a 'baker' up at MIU 
and not pursue a degree in cookin is beyond me.

Curtis got a degree in Philosophy up there and
Kirk Bernhardt got a degree in English from MIU,
so I know it can be done. So, what's the point?

Alex don't need no stinkin' MUM degree because 
he's already living in Heaven on Earth out there.

Go figure.

  Ok, Judy, apologies accepted, thank you.
 
 When someone says they believe they can tell
 you what to think, you have the right to tell
 them you believe you have the right to tell 
 them where to go. LoL!
 
  Moving on, you think I was wrong when I said 
  psychologically raped to Robin.  I think I 
  was emotionally upset, as well as overwhelmed 
  by many other inputs.  I think I was lacking 
  in psychological development.  I think I was 
  lacking in certain communication skills. 
  
  Nonetheless I think my POV is more accurate and 
  inclusive of the whole truth than yours. And my 
  inner Xeno is smiling wryly about that. 
  
  My statements on and about Sept 6 were all 
  genuine expressions of how I was feeling when I 
  wrote them. Even now I assess those posts as 
  accurately reporting that I was very upset with 
  Robin and also giving him the benefit of the 
  doubt because I wanted to see if there was a 
  way to continue being friends.  It is true that
   I was experiencing a mix and range of physical 
  and emotional states from grumpiness to feeling 
  psychologically raped. 
  
  Mix and range of inner experiences is something 
  humans experience. Though evidently not all 
  humans recognize this fact. 
  
  In addition, every time Xeno, Curtis, Steve, 
  feste and others write about this, their clarity 
  and greater objectivity has helped me understand 
  what was often subjective and emotionally 
  challenging for me.  So I am grateful to them all 
  for helping me find the words to understand events 
  and individuals that I'm still trying to understand.
  And I continue to incorporate their understandings 
  and wordings into my thinking and writing about it.
  EMILY, take note, my incorporating of the insights 
  of others will continue to happen.
  
  Judy, it's not that I keep going lower and lower.
  It's that your assessment of your POV keeps going 
  higher and higher.  Indicating only that it's all 
  relative.
  
  As for your concern about Robin's reputation, as 
  one poster recently said here, what I said was a blip 
  on the screen in comparison to Robin's own posts.
  I'd add that the postings of many of his supporters 
  also affects his reputation negatively, as difficult 
  as that might be for them to acknowledge.  
  
  Reasonable people everywhere will consider all that 
  is pertinent.  Or maybe ignore the whole thing. 
  Beyond that it is the workings of karma.
  
  
   Poor archives, still being selectively eschewed by Judy.
   Correcting Judy:  I joined FFL in May 2012 and Robin
   rejoined in June 2012.
  
  You are absolutely right, my mistake, and my apologies.
  
  Robin *first* joined FFL in June 2011, left in January
  2012, and returned in June. You joined in May 2012,
  as you say. Apparently I conflated the two June dates.
  I should have double-checked.
  
  However, my point stands: You were not new either to FFL
  or to Robin at the time he made the remarks that you
  decided four weeks later constituted psychological rape.
  You had been on FFL for three-and-a-half months, and your
  conversations with Robin had begun in early July, two
  months previously.
 



 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Share, Judy and Robin, was J gets another fact wrong and S apologizes to R

2013-04-30 Thread Michael Jackson


Not when I was there 85-87



 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Share, Judy and Robin, was J gets another fact 
wrong and S apologizes to R
 


  
RICHARD!  I think I'm doing pretty dang good with the boundary setting but 
YMMV.  Go figure and LOL too!  Actually I think MIU did have some certificate 
programs for cooking and woodworking and ayurveda teching and such.    


PS I admit that after my posts to Doc this morning I'm worried that Robin will 
henceforth be known in cyberspace as he who psychologically raped a Seriously 
Excitable Vegetable.        



 From: Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 10:21 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Share, Judy and Robin, was J gets another fact 
wrong and S apologizes to R
 


  


Share Long:
 Richard, is this there one of them there red 
 herrings or Aunt Sallys or straw individuals?

No, just free advice so you don't get your mind
raped. LoL!

 And hopefully by now MJ realizes that you love 
 to taunt him about allegedly being an MIU student.

Never heard of a college student that didn't take
English or History. There's no 'MJ' Share, it's 
just another anonymous informant, poioning the well. 

Nobody I know ever heard of him up there, baking 
or otherwise. So, we haven't heard the full story,
obviously. After reading TM discussion groups for
fifteen years, I can say without the least
hesitation, there's always an untold story. Take
the example of Lon P. Stacks or Steve Perino.

Why anyone would want to be a 'baker' up at MIU 
and not pursue a degree in cookin is beyond me.

Curtis got a degree in Philosophy up there and
Kirk Bernhardt got a degree in English from MIU,
so I know it can be done. So, what's the point?

Alex don't need no stinkin' MUM degree because 
he's already living in Heaven on Earth out there.

Go figure.

  Ok, Judy, apologies accepted, thank you.
 
 When someone says they believe they can tell
 you what to think, you have the right to tell
 them you believe you have the right to tell 
 them where to go. LoL!
 
  Moving on, you think I was wrong when I said 
  psychologically raped to Robin.  I think I 
  was emotionally upset, as well as overwhelmed 
  by many other inputs.  I think I was lacking 
  in psychological development.  I think I was 
  lacking in certain communication skills. 
  
  Nonetheless I think my POV is more accurate and 
  inclusive of the whole truth than yours. And my 
  inner Xeno is smiling wryly about that. 
  
  My statements on and about Sept 6 were all 
  genuine expressions of how I was feeling when I 
  wrote them. Even now I assess those posts as 
  accurately reporting that I was very upset with 
  Robin and also giving him the benefit of the 
  doubt because I wanted to see if there was a 
  way to continue being friends.  It is true that
   I was experiencing a mix and range of physical 
  and emotional states from grumpiness to feeling 
  psychologically raped. 
  
  Mix and range of inner experiences is something 
  humans experience. Though evidently not all 
  humans recognize this fact. 
  
  In addition, every time Xeno, Curtis, Steve, 
  feste and others write about this, their clarity 
  and greater objectivity has helped me understand 
  what was often subjective and emotionally 
  challenging for me.  So I am grateful to them all 
  for helping me find the words to understand events 
  and individuals that I'm still trying to understand.
  And I continue to incorporate their understandings 
  and wordings into my thinking and writing about it.
  EMILY, take note, my incorporating of the insights 
  of others will continue to happen.
  
  Judy, it's not that I keep going lower and lower.
  It's that your assessment of your POV keeps going 
  higher and higher.  Indicating only that it's all 
  relative.
  
  As for your concern about Robin's reputation, as 
  one poster recently said here, what I said was a blip 
  on the screen in comparison to Robin's own posts.
  I'd add that the postings of many of his supporters 
  also affects his reputation negatively, as difficult 
  as that might be for them to acknowledge.  
  
  Reasonable people everywhere will consider all that 
  is pertinent.  Or maybe ignore the whole thing. 
  Beyond that it is the workings of karma.
  
  
   Poor archives, still being selectively eschewed by Judy.
   Correcting Judy:  I joined FFL in May 2012 and Robin
   rejoined in June 2012.
  
  You are absolutely right, my mistake, and my apologies.
  
  Robin *first* joined FFL in June 2011, left in January
  2012, and returned in June. You joined in May 2012,
  as you say. Apparently I conflated the two June dates.
  I should have double-checked.
  
  However, my point stands: 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Share, Judy and Robin, was J gets another fact wrong and S apologizes to R

2013-04-30 Thread Emily Reyn
This is very funny Richard.




 From: Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:56 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Share, Judy and Robin, was J gets another fact 
wrong and S apologizes to R
 


  


Michael Jackson:
 I assume you write these things to amuse yourself

Well, it is a little more amusing, not much, to
read about a baker 'MJ' that flunked out of a religious
school up in Iowa, than to read about a Canadian who 
passed out leaflets signed 'RWC'. LoL!

 I hope so because if you are serious you are 
 showing amazing stupidity and ignorance.

So, you went up to Iowa to bake and levitate for two 
years, mumbling non-sense gibberish so you could fly 
inside a golden dome, with a bunch of other bakers,
but I'm showing an amazing stupidity and ignorance? 

 I was never a student at MIU - I was on staff.

And, this would be interesting to read about by
somebody like Curtis who managed to get a degree 
in Philosophy from MUM?

 There was no degree in baking at MIU nor is 
 there one now at MUM. 

This is totally outrageous! 

 They don't and didn't seem to value practical 
 degrees, just mainly degrees in vedic this and 
 that and consciousness that and this.
 
Tell me about it - I wanted to get a degree in
Building Custodianship at a junior college, but
the closest I could come was data entry or maybe
keyboarding. There should be more opportunity for
bakers and janitors, in my opinion.

 I already gave you the names of most of the 
 cooks in the time I was there - the fact that 
 you don't know then is none of my concern
 
They said they never heard of you. Go figure.

 Why I bother to respond to your ignorance is 
 beyond me - I guess if when I was the baker I 
 had fashioned buddhist stupas out of dough and 
 worn them on my head, I might have gotten more 
 out of my time at Marshy I want your money 
 University.
 
Maybe so, but if want a real good education you
might try a Rudolf Steiner school - it's never
to late to start learning about drawing and art.

  Richard, is this there one of them there red 
  herrings or Aunt Sallys or straw individuals?
 
 No, just free advice so you don't get your mind
 raped. LoL!
 
  And hopefully by now MJ realizes that you love 
  to taunt him about allegedly being an MIU student.
 
 Never heard of a college student that didn't take
 English or History. There's no 'MJ' Share, it's 
 just another anonymous informant, poioning the well. 
 
 Nobody I know ever heard of him up there, baking 
 or otherwise. So, we haven't heard the full story,
 obviously. After reading TM discussion groups for
 fifteen years, I can say without the least
 hesitation, there's always an untold story. Take
 the example of Lon P. Stacks or Steve Perino.
 
 Why anyone would want to be a 'baker' up at MIU 
 and not pursue a degree in cookin is beyond me.
 
 Curtis got a degree in Philosophy up there and
 Kirk Bernhardt got a degree in English from MIU,
 so I know it can be done. So, what's the point?
 
 Alex don't need no stinkin' MUM degree because 
 he's already living in Heaven on Earth out there.
 
 Go figure.
 
   Ok, Judy, apologies accepted, thank you.
  
  When someone says they believe they can tell
  you what to think, you have the right to tell
  them you believe you have the right to tell 
  them where to go. LoL!
  
   Moving on, you think I was wrong when I said 
   psychologically raped to Robin.  I think I 
   was emotionally upset, as well as overwhelmed 
   by many other inputs.  I think I was lacking 
   in psychological development.  I think I was 
   lacking in certain communication skills. 
   
   Nonetheless I think my POV is more accurate and 
   inclusive of the whole truth than yours. And my 
   inner Xeno is smiling wryly about that. 
   
   My statements on and about Sept 6 were all 
   genuine expressions of how I was feeling when I 
   wrote them. Even now I assess those posts as 
   accurately reporting that I was very upset with 
   Robin and also giving him the benefit of the 
   doubt because I wanted to see if there was a 
   way to continue being friends.  It is true that
I was experiencing a mix and range of physical 
   and emotional states from grumpiness to feeling 
   psychologically raped. 
   
   Mix and range of inner experiences is something 
   humans experience. Though evidently not all 
   humans recognize this fact. 
   
   In addition, every time Xeno, Curtis, Steve, 
   feste and others write about this, their clarity 
   and greater objectivity has helped me understand 
   what was often subjective and emotionally 
   challenging for me.  So I am grateful to them all 
   for helping me find the words to understand events 
   and individuals that I'm still trying to understand.
   And I continue to incorporate their understandings 
   and wordings into my thinking and writing about it.
   EMILY, take note, my