Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-15 Thread Mike Dixon
Sorry Jackson, you are the one that is continually wrong here. Justice in a 
court room is not determined by *ideas* as you suggest, it's determined by 
facts. There is no evidence that law enforcement didn't care about Martin, 
especially because of his race. There has to be evidence, enough to convict, in 
order to prosecute a case. The original investigators came to the conclusion 
there wasn't enough to charge Zimmerman. Due to political pressure, charges 
were filed and the trial proved there wasn't anything close to having 
sufficient evidence for a conviction. Zimmerman now has an excellent case 
against the state of Florida for an illegal prosecution. Alan Dershowitz of 
Harvard Law says there was incredible prosecutorial misconduct involved as 
well, which was the attempted withholding of exculpatory evidence by the 
prosecution. The defense had to prove nothing! The state had to prove guilt. 
Remember, *innocent until proven guilty*? The defense bent
 over backward and proved Zimmerman's innocence, something they weren't 
obligated to do. All the prosecution had were theories and ideas of what *may* 
have happened. The defense was able to take the  key testimony of many, if not 
most of the prosecution's witnesses, to prove Zimmerman's innocence. Now all 
you hear on MSNBC et al is how the prosecution blew it. They should have done 
this or they should have done that. They had nothing to work with!

 


 From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
  
   
 
wrong again - you discount the idea that the local law enforcement didn't give 
a shit about Martin because of his color - my step father was a cop in a small 
Southern town in SC and I know from him the level of prejudice that existed and 
still exists today in many Southern towns - it happens, don't doubt that.

 


 From: Seraphita s3raph...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:23 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
  
  
Yes, I've a lot of sympathy for your point here Ann - but then here in the UK 
we have some of the strictest gun-control laws in the world! You're not even 
allowed to carry pepper spray as a deterrent as you can in France, for example.

The bottom-line in this Zimmerman case is probably that it should never have 
been a case at all as there was always insufficient evidence to take it to 
court. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann  wrote: That is the crux right 
there, a very good reason why guns have no business in the hands of any member 
of the public. The threat of a broken jaw, a few stitches is not worth taking 
the life of another for. Level playing fields are not created by putting guns 
in the hands of those scared enough or angry enough to use them against others 
without a gun. Violence happens, people get threatened, injured, killed all the 
time. Add guns into the mix and you exponentially increase the bloodletting. No 
one will ever be able to convince me that guns are a right I should exercise or 
fight for. I didn't want to get into this topic but I guess I have now.   

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-15 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Oh god Seraphita please stop fucking boring me to death.

Xeno's available, he really digs this kind of shit - why don't you go
together - he is an intellectual masturbator like you as well and you can
both both come together, if at all it's possible in this context? and
compare your meagre, bookish, disciplined and discrete cum's whatever the
fuck that means LOL..



On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Seraphita s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **


 Re  if it's all Self why not be totally wild and out of control and
 provocative?: Why not? No reason whatsoever! The trick, of course, is to
 be able to do it with style - like the inimitable Aleister Crowley - and
 not get so carried away that you completely blow it  - like Charles Manson.
 (To be fair to Charlie he had the shittiest start in life imaginable; while
 Crowley was able to cultivate his image thanks to a huge inheritance. I
 should be so lucky.)

 Of course,  if it's all Self - and it is - why not be bookish,
 disciplined and discrete - if that appeals to you more?

 The only rule is that there are no rules. In Eternity the Archangel
 Gabriel isn't holding an emerald tablet with a list of dos and don'ts we
 have to abide by. That's what makes the ride so scary.

 On a footnote: if anything goes, then does it make sense to say in the
 Declaration of Independence: we hold these truths to be self-evident? If
 they're self-evident then why didn't bright spark Aristotle include them in
 his *Politics*?



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
 
 
  Yep I'm opposite of the Seraphita, Xeno pseudo-Eastern, neo-advaita,
  Buddhist types - if it's all Self why not be totally wild and out of
  control and provocative?
 
 

  



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-14 Thread Michael Jackson
you are obviously an idiot as are plenty of people who carry weapons without 
the knowledge of how to use them

Zimmerman was a wana-be cop who was too lazy to actually become one and 
preferred to zoom around in his housing area PLAYING cop - had he stayed in his 
car instead of trying to play cop, Martin would be alive today. Most of the 
people who think like you do don't give a sit about Martin because they think 
of him as a nigger, plain and simple.

If anyone distorted the facts it was Zimmerman and his defense team, Martin 
was breaking no laws and had every right to be where he was, harming no one. 
Zimmerman had a history of looking for trouble, constantly calling the cops, 
real cops mind you, about suspicious characters in his area - he went looking 
for trouble and he created the trouble.





 From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
 


  
Yes, Trayvon might be alive today. and Zimmerman might be dead. Zimmerman 
was found not guilty by reason of *self defense*. Zimmerman never broke any 
law. Trayvon broke the law the moment he assaulted Zimmerman. For you to say 
Zimmerman didn't know how or when to use a firearm is irresponsible. I would 
assume in Florida, as in Texas, he had a permit to carry, which is given only 
after receiving training,  which would include use and legality of when it 
could be used. The Sanford police department chose not to prosecute Zimmerman 
because of the circumstances and the law. Political pressure was applied until 
charges were brought and a million dollars thrown down the drain. The media 
lied about the facts, building false hopes of *justice*. MSNBC would have you 
think Zimmerman tracked, hunted down and shot, in cold blood, a poor innocent 
teenager simply because he was black and looked out of place. The young man 
that is dead is dead because of his own
 poor decisions. If Trayvon had to confront Zimmerman, all he needed to do is 
ask Why are you following me? He could have explained that he was a guest 
visiting his father and future step- mother and he was staying at the specific 
address he was at. That would have defused the whole situation. Simple 
communications. Instead, Trayvon attacked Zimmerman, who took a lot before 
using deadly force to stop it. I think Trayvon may have had marijuana induced 
paranoia.

From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
there are a lot of stupid mother fuckers out there with guns who don't know how 
to use them responsibly and Zimmerman is one of them - if he hadn't been trying 
to play cop, Martin would be alive today. As someone who has used .22's, .38's, 
.357 Magnums and has fired my brothers SKS and his model 1894 Winchester (and 
others) I say that ownership of firearms here in the US is an unfortunate 
necessity for many, but one should know when and how to use them. I do. 
Zimmerman doesn't and a young man is dead because of Zimmerman's stupidity. He 
should be in jail tonight. 


From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
Bhairitu, you are a victim of what the media has been trying to convince 
everyone of, that Zimmerman followed Trayvon AFTER he was told not to.  He 
followed him and THEN was told not to when 911 heard him out of breath. They 
said we don't need you to do that. He stopped and said OK and lost sight of 
Trayvon. He then walked down a walk way to get an address to give dispatch so 
police would know the exact location. On his way back to his car, Trayvon 
jumped out and asked Zimmerman if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no, I don't 
have a problem and Trayvon said now you do and sucker punched him in the 
nose, knocking him to the ground, jumping on him and pinning him down, pounding 
Zimmerman with his fists and banging his head on concrete. The evidence is in 
Zimmerman's injuries to his face, back of his head, grass and water on his back 
and eyewitnesses who saw Trayvon on top of him. The media has been less than 
honest with this case and has tried to
 deceive people early on. NBC was even caught editing 911 calls to make 
Zimmerman look as if he were racially profiling. He looks black was only said 
AFTER 911 dispatch had asked for the race of the suspect. Before that, 
Zimmerman had not mentioned race in his call to 911. As I've said earlier, 
this was meant to start the *great race dialog* the nation was supposed to 
have, the one that was intended with Louis Gates. Remember when the President 
said I don't know

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-14 Thread Mike Dixon
Oh yes Judy, I've smoked pot in the past. I'd have to say that there were times 
when I felt a little paranoid while stoned. Fortunately, it was something to 
laugh about latter, a part of the stoner experience.  I'm not qualified to tell 
you what concentrations it would take to induce any effects at all.So, why did 
Trayvon approach Zimmerman? Was it out of fear, paranoia (why is that 
creepy-ass cracker following me) or was it out of anger? Maybe a little of 
both? Maybe a lot of both.


From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:58 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
--- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... 
wrote:
(snip)
 I think Trayvon may have had marijuana induced paranoia.

When he only had 1.5 ng/ml of THC in his system? Don't you
think that's rather a stretch?

Did you ever even wonder whether he had had enough to make
him paranoid?

Have you ever smoked pot?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/12/opinion/reefer-madness-an-unfortunate-redux.html

http://tinyurl.com/pjez27r




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-14 Thread Mike Dixon
Seraphita... racist, sexist, bigot. homophobe is a standard insult hurled to 
keep you under *control*, put you in your place. The same way the *n* word was 
used to keep black people in *their* place. It's intended to remind you of who 
you are and that makes you less. Wear it as a badge of honor because you've 
reduced the caller to a lower denominator. George Zimmerman will always be a 
*marked* man but he could also become a very wealthy man in the near future. 
Florida has strong laws against being charged with a crime without the evidence 
to support a conviction. That is why he wasn't charged in the first place. He 
has an excellent case against the state of Florida. He also has a strong case 
against NBC for editing his 911 call that made him look like he brought up the 
issue of *race* in his call. The idea, to make Zimmerman look as if he was a 
racist. That would show malice, strengthening a man slaughter case. Florida and 
NBC will probably want to
 settle out of court, making Zimmerman very wealthy and able to live anywhere 
he wants. Meanwhile, Al Sharpton will probably lose his show for genning this 
up in the first place. Is that two strikes for Al? Tawana Brawley and Trayvon 
or was that three? Don't remember if he was involved in the Duke la cross 
fiasco.


From: Seraphita s3raph...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:52 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote:


 This guy is just your average, stupid, run of the mill racist. Why so 
 impressed, or have you successfully hidden your glue sniffing habit from us? 

Wow, you guys really do play the race card as a knee-jerk response, don't you? 
Steyn is neither stupid nor average: even his detractors have had to admit his 
flair for controversy. He's also a fine champion for freedom of speech and has 
stood shoulder-to-shoulder with those whose lives are under constant threat of 
assassination because of their un-PC views. Don't you agree that even dumb 
asses like you should be able to express your ill-considered opinions without 
fear of assault? 
(I leave glue sniffing to the plebs - I deserve Class A drugs.)  The one guy 
had a gun. The other guy didn't. Are we done yet? Lucky for him he had a gun 
or he'd be six feet under today.
Yes, we are done. Not Guilty was the right call. Of course Zimmerman will never 
be able to live a normal life now so that should be some consolation to you. 

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote: 
 When conservative commentator Mark Steyn is on form he can pen some of  the 
 best journalism on the web. I'm in awe at his piece about the George  
 Zimmerman stitch-up. Read it and weep.  http://tinyurl.com/qxadrqa 


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-14 Thread Mike Dixon
What makes you think Zimmerman didn't have the knowledge of how to use his 
weapon? He obviously kept it holstered until the last possible moment,drawing 
it only after multiple slams of his head against cement and according to his 
account, only after Trayvon noticed it and reached for it.Nothing wrong with 
wanting to be a cop or pursuing that as a career. Both Zimmerman and Trayvon 
had every right to what they were doing up to the point of assault. Trayvon had 
every right to walk in the neighborhood in which he was a guest and Zimmerman 
had every right to be on a neighborhood watch team. Zimmerman had every right 
to report to police a person he had never seen before in his neighborhood due 
to the numerous burglaries in the past and his position in a neighborhood watch 
program. BTW, I do know how to use guns , have had several since I was a kid. 
Currently, I don't have any. Would love to have a Bushmaster AR15 though but 
that would just be a thousand
 dollars just sitting in a closet and I don't feel threatened. The only hunting 
I do is with Peregrine falcons and a Spinoni. It's kind of fun orchestrating 
the keen sense of smell of the dog and the eye site and speed of the falcon. 
More ranchers and farms are willing to let you hunt on their land under those 
circumstances.


From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:14 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
you are obviously an idiot as are plenty of people who carry weapons without 
the knowledge of how to use themZimmerman was a wana-be cop who was too lazy to 
actually become one and preferred to zoom around in his housing area PLAYING 
cop - had he stayed in his car instead of trying to play cop, Martin would be 
alive today. Most of the people who think like you do don't give a sit about 
Martin because they think of him as a nigger, plain and simple.If anyone 
distorted the facts it was Zimmerman and his defense team, Martin was 
breaking no laws and had every right to be where he was, harming no one. 
Zimmerman had a history of looking for trouble, constantly calling the cops, 
real cops mind you, about suspicious characters in his area - he went looking 
for trouble and he created the trouble. 


From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
Yes, Trayvon might be alive today. and Zimmerman might be dead. Zimmerman 
was found not guilty by reason of *self defense*. Zimmerman never broke any 
law. Trayvon broke the law the moment he assaulted Zimmerman. For you to say 
Zimmerman didn't know how or when to use a firearm is irresponsible. I would 
assume in Florida, as in Texas, he had a permit to carry, which is given only 
after receiving training,  which would include use and legality of when it 
could be used. The Sanford police department chose not to prosecute Zimmerman 
because of the circumstances and the law. Political pressure was applied until 
charges were brought and a million dollars thrown down the drain. The media 
lied about the facts, building false hopes of *justice*. MSNBC would have you 
think Zimmerman tracked, hunted down and shot, in cold blood, a poor innocent 
teenager simply because he was black and looked out of place. The young man 
that is dead is dead because of his own
 poor decisions. If Trayvon had to confront Zimmerman, all he needed to do is 
ask Why are you following me? He could have explained that he was a guest 
visiting his father and future step- mother and he was staying at the specific 
address he was at. That would have defused the whole situation. Simple 
communications. Instead, Trayvon attacked Zimmerman, who took a lot before 
using deadly force to stop it. I think Trayvon may have had marijuana induced 
paranoia.

From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
there are a lot of stupid mother fuckers out there with guns who don't know how 
to use them responsibly and Zimmerman is one of them - if he hadn't been trying 
to play cop, Martin would be alive today. As someone who has used .22's, .38's, 
.357 Magnums and has fired my brothers SKS and his model 1894 Winchester (and 
others) I say that ownership of firearms here in the US is an unfortunate 
necessity for many, but one should know when and how to use them. I do. 
Zimmerman doesn't and a young man is dead because of Zimmerman's stupidity. He 
should be in jail tonight. 


From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-14 Thread Mike Dixon
P.S. Michael, I didn't address the *most people who think like you* issue. To 
me, Trayvon was a *hot headed* kid that made a real big mistake. Kind of stupid 
to attack people these days, especially with so many *right to carry* permits 
granted in so many states. That is what those permits are intended for, to 
protect yourself against assault with intent to kill or do great bodily harm. 
One more slam of Zimmerman's head against concrete could have killed or caused 
brain damage. He had every moral right to draw his weapon and use it at that 
point.As I believe Judy mentioned earlier, nobody is a winner here, but 
Zimmerman did walk away with his life on Feb 26, 2012 and  his freedom last 
night. His life will be affected till he dies and Trayvon's parents will have 
to live with burying their child, something no parent should have to do.


From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
What makes you think Zimmerman didn't have the knowledge of how to use his 
weapon? He obviously kept it holstered until the last possible moment,drawing 
it only after multiple slams of his head against cement and according to his 
account, only after Trayvon noticed it and reached for it.Nothing wrong with 
wanting to be a cop or pursuing that as a career. Both Zimmerman and Trayvon 
had every right to what they were doing up to the point of assault. Trayvon had 
every right to walk in the neighborhood in which he was a guest and Zimmerman 
had every right to be on a neighborhood watch team. Zimmerman had every right 
to report to police a person he had never seen before in his neighborhood due 
to the numerous burglaries in the past and his position in a neighborhood watch 
program. BTW, I do know how to use guns , have had several since I was a kid. 
Currently, I don't have any. Would love to have a Bushmaster AR15 though but 
that would just be a thousand
 dollars just sitting in a closet and I don't feel threatened. The only hunting 
I do is with Peregrine falcons and a Spinoni. It's kind of fun orchestrating 
the keen sense of smell of the dog and the eye site and speed of the falcon. 
More ranchers and farms are willing to let you hunt on their land under those 
circumstances.


From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:14 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
you are obviously an idiot as are plenty of people who carry weapons without 
the knowledge of how to use them Zimmerman was a wana-be cop who was too lazy 
to actually become one and preferred to zoom around in his housing area PLAYING 
cop - had he stayed in his car instead of trying to play cop, Martin would be 
alive today. Most of the people who think like you do don't give a sit about 
Martin because they think of him as a nigger, plain and simple. If anyone 
distorted the facts it was Zimmerman and his defense team, Martin was 
breaking no laws and had every right to be where he was, harming no one. 
Zimmerman had a history of looking for trouble, constantly calling the cops, 
real cops mind you, about suspicious characters in his area - he went looking 
for trouble and he created the trouble. 


From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
Yes, Trayvon might be alive today. and Zimmerman might be dead. Zimmerman 
was found not guilty by reason of *self defense*. Zimmerman never broke any 
law. Trayvon broke the law the moment he assaulted Zimmerman. For you to say 
Zimmerman didn't know how or when to use a firearm is irresponsible. I would 
assume in Florida, as in Texas, he had a permit to carry, which is given only 
after receiving training,  which would include use and legality of when it 
could be used. The Sanford police department chose not to prosecute Zimmerman 
because of the circumstances and the law. Political pressure was applied until 
charges were brought and a million dollars thrown down the drain. The media 
lied about the facts, building false hopes of *justice*. MSNBC would have you 
think Zimmerman tracked, hunted down and shot, in cold blood, a poor innocent 
teenager simply because he was black and looked out of place. The young man 
that is dead is dead because of his own
 poor decisions. If Trayvon had to confront Zimmerman, all he needed to do is 
ask Why are you following me? He could have explained that he was a guest 
visiting his father and future step- mother and he was staying at the specific 
address he was at. That would have defused the whole situation. Simple 
communications. Instead, Trayvon attacked Zimmerman, who took a lot

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-14 Thread Michael Jackson
you have no real world knowledge - how could Zimmerman have drawn his weapon 
which was in a IWB (inner waistband holster) that he claimed was either on his 
right hip, or actually BEHIND his back (he waffled on the placement of the gun 
in his waistband) - even if on his right hip, with Martin on him, straddling 
his body Zimmerman's hands would have been blocked from access to the weapon 
and how the hell could Martin have seen a black gun in a black IWB on a dark 
rainy night when the weapon was not in his field of vision if he had HIS hands 
over Zimmerman's face. Its a matter of placement of each person's body and the 
limitations of the physical body. Zimmerman obviously lied as to who was where 
- no way Martin could even have seen the gun, much less grabbed for it under 
those circumstances, nor could Zimmerman have drawn the weapon under the 
circumstances Zimmerman described. He lied and that's it. But you won't believe 
it because of the dead boy's color.
 And for that matter, had Martin been white, Zimmerman would never have gone 
after him.





 From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
 


  
What makes you think Zimmerman didn't have the knowledge of how to use his 
weapon? He obviously kept it holstered until the last possible moment,drawing 
it only after multiple slams of his head against cement and according to his 
account, only after Trayvon noticed it and reached for it.Nothing wrong with 
wanting to be a cop or pursuing that as a career. Both Zimmerman and Trayvon 
had every right to what they were doing up to the point of assault. Trayvon had 
every right to walk in the neighborhood in which he was a guest and Zimmerman 
had every right to be on a neighborhood watch team. Zimmerman had every right 
to report to police a person he had never seen before in his neighborhood due 
to the numerous burglaries in the past and his position in a neighborhood watch 
program. BTW, I do know how to use guns , have had several since I was a kid. 
Currently, I don't have any. Would love to have a Bushmaster AR15 though but 
that would just be a thousand
 dollars just sitting in a closet and I don't feel threatened. The only hunting 
I do is with Peregrine falcons and a Spinoni. It's kind of fun orchestrating 
the keen sense of smell of the dog and the eye site and speed of the falcon. 
More ranchers and farms are willing to let you hunt on their land under those 
circumstances.


From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:14 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
you are obviously an idiot as are plenty of people who carry weapons without 
the knowledge of how to use them Zimmerman was a wana-be cop who was too lazy 
to actually become one and preferred to zoom around in his housing area PLAYING 
cop - had he stayed in his car instead of trying to play cop, Martin would be 
alive today. Most of the people who think like you do don't give a sit about 
Martin because they think of him as a nigger, plain and simple. If anyone 
distorted the facts it was Zimmerman and his defense team, Martin was 
breaking no laws and had every right to be where he was, harming no one. 
Zimmerman had a history of looking for trouble, constantly calling the cops, 
real cops mind you, about suspicious characters in his area - he went looking 
for trouble and he created the trouble. 


From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
Yes, Trayvon might be alive today. and Zimmerman might be dead. Zimmerman 
was found not guilty by reason of *self defense*. Zimmerman never broke any 
law. Trayvon broke the law the moment he assaulted Zimmerman. For you to say 
Zimmerman didn't know how or when to use a firearm is irresponsible. I would 
assume in Florida, as in Texas, he had a permit to carry, which is given only 
after receiving training,  which would include use and legality of when it 
could be used. The Sanford police department chose not to prosecute Zimmerman 
because of the circumstances and the law. Political pressure was applied until 
charges were brought and a million dollars thrown down the drain. The media 
lied about the facts, building false hopes of *justice*. MSNBC would have you 
think Zimmerman tracked, hunted down and shot, in cold blood, a poor innocent 
teenager simply because he was black and looked out of place. The young man 
that is dead is dead because of his own
 poor decisions. If Trayvon had to confront Zimmerman, all he needed to do is 
ask Why are you following me? He could

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-14 Thread Michael Jackson
you have only Zimmerman's word that he was attacked and his account of the 
incident is not credible for the reason's already described. As to Zimmerman's 
so -called injuries, I have been hurt worse getting scratched by my cat.





 From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
 


  
P.S. Michael, I didn't address the *most people who think like you* issue. To 
me, Trayvon was a *hot headed* kid that made a real big mistake. Kind of stupid 
to attack people these days, especially with so many *right to carry* permits 
granted in so many states. That is what those permits are intended for, to 
protect yourself against assault with intent to kill or do great bodily harm. 
One more slam of Zimmerman's head against concrete could have killed or caused 
brain damage. He had every moral right to draw his weapon and use it at that 
point.As I believe Judy mentioned earlier, nobody is a winner here, but 
Zimmerman did walk away with his life on Feb 26, 2012 and  his freedom last 
night. His life will be affected till he dies and Trayvon's parents will have 
to live with burying their child, something no parent should have to do.


From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
What makes you think Zimmerman didn't have the knowledge of how to use his 
weapon? He obviously kept it holstered until the last possible moment,drawing 
it only after multiple slams of his head against cement and according to his 
account, only after Trayvon noticed it and reached for it.Nothing wrong with 
wanting to be a cop or pursuing that as a career. Both Zimmerman and Trayvon 
had every right to what they were doing up to the point of assault. Trayvon had 
every right to walk in the neighborhood in which he was a guest and Zimmerman 
had every right to be on a neighborhood watch team. Zimmerman had every right 
to report to police a person he had never seen before in his neighborhood due 
to the numerous burglaries in the past and his position in a neighborhood watch 
program. BTW, I do know how to use guns , have had several since I was a kid. 
Currently, I don't have any. Would love to have a Bushmaster AR15 though but 
that would just be a thousand
 dollars just sitting in a closet and I don't feel threatened. The only hunting 
I do is with Peregrine falcons and a Spinoni. It's kind of fun orchestrating 
the keen sense of smell of the dog and the eye site and speed of the falcon. 
More ranchers and farms are willing to let you hunt on their land under those 
circumstances.


From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:14 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
you are obviously an idiot as are plenty of people who carry weapons without 
the knowledge of how to use them Zimmerman was a wana-be cop who was too lazy 
to actually become one and preferred to zoom around in his housing area PLAYING 
cop - had he stayed in his car instead of trying to play cop, Martin would be 
alive today. Most of the people who think like you do don't give a sit about 
Martin because they think of him as a nigger, plain and simple. If anyone 
distorted the facts it was Zimmerman and his defense team, Martin was 
breaking no laws and had every right to be where he was, harming no one. 
Zimmerman had a history of looking for trouble, constantly calling the cops, 
real cops mind you, about suspicious characters in his area - he went looking 
for trouble and he created the trouble. 


From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
Yes, Trayvon might be alive today. and Zimmerman might be dead. Zimmerman 
was found not guilty by reason of *self defense*. Zimmerman never broke any 
law. Trayvon broke the law the moment he assaulted Zimmerman. For you to say 
Zimmerman didn't know how or when to use a firearm is irresponsible. I would 
assume in Florida, as in Texas, he had a permit to carry, which is given only 
after receiving training,  which would include use and legality of when it 
could be used. The Sanford police department chose not to prosecute Zimmerman 
because of the circumstances and the law. Political pressure was applied until 
charges were brought and a million dollars thrown down the drain. The media 
lied about the facts, building false hopes of *justice*. MSNBC would have you 
think Zimmerman tracked, hunted down and shot, in cold blood, a poor innocent

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-14 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/13/2013 05:33 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
 Bhairitu, you are a victim of what the media has been trying to convince 
 everyone of, that Zimmerman followed Trayvon AFTER he was told not to.  He 
 followed him and THEN was told not to when 911 heard him out of breath. They 
 said we don't need you to do that.

There are two people who know what really happened.  One is dead and the 
other is a proven liar.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-14 Thread Mike Dixon
It's quite simple Michael, neither one of us were there but you could use your 
imagination if you really wanted the truth. There was a struggle on the ground 
and Zimmerman squirmed around trying to get out from under Martin and get his 
head off of the pavement. It's very easy to imagine not only his clothing but 
also the holster shifting to to his right, especially if his cloths were lose 
fitting. Try it, organize your clothing in a straight line, lay on the ground 
and roll around as if you were fighting for your life . Then stand up and see 
if your cloths are still organized as neat and straight as they were before. 
Your reasons for Martin not being able to go for the gun or Zimmerman not being 
able to get to it from that position are grasping for straws.  There was enough 
light that people who witnessed the incident could tell who was on top and who 
was on the bottom and what color their cloths were. Yes we have Zimmerman's 
word and there were
 other eye witnesses that verify most of what Zimmerman said.  The Prosecution 
never could prove their case, only speculate. The defense had to prove nothing, 
yet they proved beyond a reasonable doubt their side of the story.All you have 
is Al Sharpton's word who wasn't there, saw nothing and can only speculate what 
he imagined happened and he hasn't gotten anything right yet. Remember Tawana 
Brawley and Duke La Cross? Sharpton is a race- baiter, trying to make a name 
for himself and be the next Martin Luther King and failing miserably at it. All 
he has ever done is gen things up based on lies and when they are found to be 
lies, disappoints and  even embarrasses the more intelligent people that that 
believed in him. MSNBC would be wise to distance themselves from him.


From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
you have only Zimmerman's word that he was attacked and his account of the 
incident is not credible for the reason's already described. As to Zimmerman's 
so -called injuries, I have been hurt worse getting scratched by my cat. 


From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
P.S. Michael, I didn't address the *most people who think like you* issue. To 
me, Trayvon was a *hot headed* kid that made a real big mistake. Kind of stupid 
to attack people these days, especially with so many *right to carry* permits 
granted in so many states. That is what those permits are intended for, to 
protect yourself against assault with intent to kill or do great bodily harm. 
One more slam of Zimmerman's head against concrete could have killed or caused 
brain damage. He had every moral right to draw his weapon and use it at that 
point.As I believe Judy mentioned earlier, nobody is a winner here, but 
Zimmerman did walk away with his life on Feb 26, 2012 and  his freedom last 
night. His life will be affected till he dies and Trayvon's parents will have 
to live with burying their child, something no parent should have to do.


From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
What makes you think Zimmerman didn't have the knowledge of how to use his 
weapon? He obviously kept it holstered until the last possible moment,drawing 
it only after multiple slams of his head against cement and according to his 
account, only after Trayvon noticed it and reached for it.Nothing wrong with 
wanting to be a cop or pursuing that as a career. Both Zimmerman and Trayvon 
had every right to what they were doing up to the point of assault. Trayvon had 
every right to walk in the neighborhood in which he was a guest and Zimmerman 
had every right to be on a neighborhood watch team. Zimmerman had every right 
to report to police a person he had never seen before in his neighborhood due 
to the numerous burglaries in the past and his position in a neighborhood watch 
program. BTW, I do know how to use guns , have had several since I was a kid. 
Currently, I don't have any. Would love to have a Bushmaster AR15 though but 
that would just be a thousand
 dollars just sitting in a closet and I don't feel threatened. The only hunting 
I do is with Peregrine falcons and a Spinoni. It's kind of fun orchestrating 
the keen sense of smell of the dog and the eye site and speed of the falcon. 
More ranchers and farms are willing to let you hunt on their land under those 
circumstances.


From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:14 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-14 Thread Mike Dixon
Well.. that actually makes one. The state did not prove their case. The defense 
didn't need to , but they did.


From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
On 07/13/2013 05:33 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
 Bhairitu, you are a victim of what the media has been trying to convince 
 everyone of, that Zimmerman followed Trayvon AFTER he was told not to. He 
 followed him and THEN was told not to when 911 heard him out of breath. They 
 said we don't need you to do that.

There are two people who know what really happened. One is dead and the 
other is a proven liar.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-14 Thread Michael Jackson
Dix is wrong - watch the video re-creation he and his lawyers did to see what 
Zimmerman said happened when.





 From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
 


  
On 07/13/2013 05:33 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
 Bhairitu, you are a victim of what the media has been trying to convince 
 everyone of, that Zimmerman followed Trayvon AFTER he was told not to.  He 
 followed him and THEN was told not to when 911 heard him out of breath. They 
 said we don't need you to do that.

There are two people who know what really happened.  One is dead and the 
other is a proven liar.


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-14 Thread Michael Jackson
you are still an idiot - Zimmerman said he drew WHILE he was on the ground, 
with Martin still on top of him





 From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
 


  
It's quite simple Michael, neither one of us were there but you could use your 
imagination if you really wanted the truth. There was a struggle on the ground 
and Zimmerman squirmed around trying to get out from under Martin and get his 
head off of the pavement. It's very easy to imagine not only his clothing but 
also the holster shifting to to his right, especially if his cloths were lose 
fitting. Try it, organize your clothing in a straight line, lay on the ground 
and roll around as if you were fighting for your life . Then stand up and see 
if your cloths are still organized as neat and straight as they were before. 
Your reasons for Martin not being able to go for the gun or Zimmerman not being 
able to get to it from that position are grasping for straws.  There was enough 
light that people who witnessed the incident could tell who was on top and who 
was on the bottom and what color their cloths were. Yes we have Zimmerman's 
word and there were
 other eye witnesses that verify most of what Zimmerman said.  The Prosecution 
never could prove their case, only speculate. The defense had to prove nothing, 
yet they proved beyond a reasonable doubt their side of the story.All you have 
is Al Sharpton's word who wasn't there, saw nothing and can only speculate what 
he imagined happened and he hasn't gotten anything right yet. Remember Tawana 
Brawley and Duke La Cross? Sharpton is a race- baiter, trying to make a name 
for himself and be the next Martin Luther King and failing miserably at it. All 
he has ever done is gen things up based on lies and when they are found to be 
lies, disappoints and  even embarrasses the more intelligent people that that 
believed in him. MSNBC would be wise to distance themselves from him.


From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
you have only Zimmerman's word that he was attacked and his account of the 
incident is not credible for the reason's already described. As to Zimmerman's 
so -called injuries, I have been hurt worse getting scratched by my cat. 


From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
P.S. Michael, I didn't address the *most people who think like you* issue. To 
me, Trayvon was a *hot headed* kid that made a real big mistake. Kind of stupid 
to attack people these days, especially with so many *right to carry* permits 
granted in so many states. That is what those permits are intended for, to 
protect yourself against assault with intent to kill or do great bodily harm. 
One more slam of Zimmerman's head against concrete could have killed or caused 
brain damage. He had every moral right to draw his weapon and use it at that 
point.As I believe Judy mentioned earlier, nobody is a winner here, but 
Zimmerman did walk away with his life on Feb 26, 2012 and  his freedom last 
night. His life will be affected till he dies and Trayvon's parents will have 
to live with burying their child, something no parent should have to do.


From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
What makes you think Zimmerman didn't have the knowledge of how to use his 
weapon? He obviously kept it holstered until the last possible moment,drawing 
it only after multiple slams of his head against cement and according to his 
account, only after Trayvon noticed it and reached for it.Nothing wrong with 
wanting to be a cop or pursuing that as a career. Both Zimmerman and Trayvon 
had every right to what they were doing up to the point of assault. Trayvon had 
every right to walk in the neighborhood in which he was a guest and Zimmerman 
had every right to be on a neighborhood watch team. Zimmerman had every right 
to report to police a person he had never seen before in his neighborhood due 
to the numerous burglaries in the past and his position in a neighborhood watch 
program. BTW, I do know how to use guns , have had several since I was a kid. 
Currently, I don't have any. Would love to have a Bushmaster AR15 though but 
that would just be a thousand
 dollars just sitting in a closet and I don't feel threatened. The only hunting 
I do is with Peregrine falcons and a Spinoni. It's kind

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-14 Thread Bhairitu
Interesting that the right wingers here feel justice has been served.  
Wonder what they would be thinking if Zimmerman shot one of their heroes 
like Paul Ryan?

On 07/14/2013 12:56 PM, wgm4u wrote:
 Justice has been served in this case, only God can guarantee perfect justice, 
 deal with it. American jurisprudence is the best we can do as imperfect human 
 beings in an imperfect world. Who knows what really happened?, and, is there 
 really man made Global warming?, depends on who you believe I guess.

 I don't know, nor do you!

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote:
 Well.. that actually makes one. The state did not prove their case. The 
 defense didn't need to , but they did.


 From: Bhairitu noozguru@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

 Â
 On 07/13/2013 05:33 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
 Bhairitu, you are a victim of what the media has been trying to convince 
 everyone of, that Zimmerman followed Trayvon AFTER he was told not to. He 
 followed him and THEN was told not to when 911 heard him out of breath. 
 They said we don't need you to do that.
 There are two people who know what really happened. One is dead and the
 other is a proven liar.






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-14 Thread Michael Jackson
as in the OJ Simpson case, there is no accounting for the stupidity of jurors





 From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
 


  
Well.. that actually makes one. The state did not prove their case. The defense 
didn't need to , but they did.


From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
On 07/13/2013 05:33 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
 Bhairitu, you are a victim of what the media has been trying to convince 
 everyone of, that Zimmerman followed Trayvon AFTER he was told not to. He 
 followed him and THEN was told not to when 911 heard him out of breath. They 
 said we don't need you to do that.

There are two people who know what really happened. One is dead and the 
other is a proven liar.


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-14 Thread Mike Dixon
Or Barack Obama LOL! Dude, get real. So, Trayvon Martin is... err, was a left 
wing hero? Did you listen to the evidence or just the speculation? Almost all 
of what I heard on CNN, MSNBC and NBC was pure speculation. Zimmerman racially 
profiled, stalked and murdered Trayvon while only showing us photos of a much 
younger, sweet, smiling child. Rarely, if ever, admitting facts but speculating 
what *must* have happened, as did the Prosecution and trying to squeeze around 
known facts. At least Fox laid out both sides of the stories all along as they 
became available.


From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
Interesting that the right wingers here feel justice has been served. 
Wonder what they would be thinking if Zimmerman shot one of their heroes 
like Paul Ryan?

On 07/14/2013 12:56 PM, wgm4u wrote:
 Justice has been served in this case, only God can guarantee perfect justice, 
 deal with it. American jurisprudence is the best we can do as imperfect human 
 beings in an imperfect world. Who knows what really happened?, and, is there 
 really man made Global warming?, depends on who you believe I guess.

 I don't know, nor do you!

 --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... 
 wrote:
 Well.. that actually makes one. The state did not prove their case. The 
 defense didn't need to , but they did.


 From: Bhairitu noozguru@...
 To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

 Â
 On 07/13/2013 05:33 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
 Bhairitu, you are a victim of what the media has been trying to convince 
 everyone of, that Zimmerman followed Trayvon AFTER he was told not to. He 
 followed him and THEN was told not to when 911 heard him out of breath. 
 They said we don't need you to do that.
 There are two people who know what really happened. One is dead and the
 other is a proven liar.







Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-14 Thread Mike Dixon
Why is that only Michael Jackson's post arrive in my spam box? One of the 
wonders of the Universe I guess.

From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
you are still an idiot - Zimmerman said he drew WHILE he was on the ground, 
with Martin still on top of him 


From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
It's quite simple Michael, neither one of us were there but you could use your 
imagination if you really wanted the truth. There was a struggle on the ground 
and Zimmerman squirmed around trying to get out from under Martin and get his 
head off of the pavement. It's very easy to imagine not only his clothing but 
also the holster shifting to to his right, especially if his cloths were lose 
fitting. Try it, organize your clothing in a straight line, lay on the ground 
and roll around as if you were fighting for your life . Then stand up and see 
if your cloths are still organized as neat and straight as they were before. 
Your reasons for Martin not being able to go for the gun or Zimmerman not being 
able to get to it from that position are grasping for straws.  There was enough 
light that people who witnessed the incident could tell who was on top and who 
was on the bottom and what color their cloths were. Yes we have Zimmerman's 
word and there were
 other eye witnesses that verify most of what Zimmerman said.  The Prosecution 
never could prove their case, only speculate. The defense had to prove nothing, 
yet they proved beyond a reasonable doubt their side of the story.All you have 
is Al Sharpton's word who wasn't there, saw nothing and can only speculate what 
he imagined happened and he hasn't gotten anything right yet. Remember Tawana 
Brawley and Duke La Cross? Sharpton is a race- baiter, trying to make a name 
for himself and be the next Martin Luther King and failing miserably at it. All 
he has ever done is gen things up based on lies and when they are found to be 
lies, disappoints and  even embarrasses the more intelligent people that that 
believed in him. MSNBC would be wise to distance themselves from him.


From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
you have only Zimmerman's word that he was attacked and his account of the 
incident is not credible for the reason's already described. As to Zimmerman's 
so -called injuries, I have been hurt worse getting scratched by my cat. 


From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
P.S. Michael, I didn't address the *most people who think like you* issue. To 
me, Trayvon was a *hot headed* kid that made a real big mistake. Kind of stupid 
to attack people these days, especially with so many *right to carry* permits 
granted in so many states. That is what those permits are intended for, to 
protect yourself against assault with intent to kill or do great bodily harm. 
One more slam of Zimmerman's head against concrete could have killed or caused 
brain damage. He had every moral right to draw his weapon and use it at that 
point.As I believe Judy mentioned earlier, nobody is a winner here, but 
Zimmerman did walk away with his life on Feb 26, 2012 and  his freedom last 
night. His life will be affected till he dies and Trayvon's parents will have 
to live with burying their child, something no parent should have to do.


From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
What makes you think Zimmerman didn't have the knowledge of how to use his 
weapon? He obviously kept it holstered until the last possible moment,drawing 
it only after multiple slams of his head against cement and according to his 
account, only after Trayvon noticed it and reached for it.Nothing wrong with 
wanting to be a cop or pursuing that as a career. Both Zimmerman and Trayvon 
had every right to what they were doing up to the point of assault. Trayvon had 
every right to walk in the neighborhood in which he was a guest and Zimmerman 
had every right to be on a neighborhood watch team. Zimmerman had every right 
to report to police a person he had never seen before in his neighborhood due 
to the numerous burglaries in the past and his position in a neighborhood watch 
program. BTW, I do know how

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-14 Thread Mike Dixon
O'Mara, Zimmerman's attorney, has said they will get immunity from any civil 
cases brought against Zimmerman. Probably based on *stand your ground* law. So 
if the Martin's want to sue Zimmerman after Zimmerman has settled with Florida 
and NBC it won't do them any good.


From: Seraphita s3raph...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:39 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
Interesting. I hadn't considered that aspect of the case. No wonder his lawyer 
was looking so cheerful on the TV news today - Christmas has come early. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote:  George Zimmerman 
will always be a *marked* man but he could also become a very wealthy man in 
the near future. Florida has strong laws against being charged with a crime 
without the evidence to support a conviction. That is why he wasn't charged in 
the first place. He has an excellent case against the state of Florida. He also 
has a strong case against NBC for editing his 911 call that made him look like 
he brought up the issue of *race* in his call. The idea, to make Zimmerman look 
as if he was a racist. That would show malice, strengthening a manslaughter 
case. Florida and NBC will probably want to settle out of court, making 
Zimmerman very wealthy and able to live anywhere he wants.  


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-14 Thread Bhairitu
Didn't say that Martin was hero, did I?  You sorta jumped to a 
conclusion there.  I had to make an example the would make a point.  If 
I mentioned some obscure right winger it wouldn't make a point, would it?

When I started to do my morning walk around here a few of the neighbors 
drove by slowly watching me.  I just stared them right back or wave at 
them.  After all I've been living in this neighborhood for almost 13 
years which is probably longer than some of them.

The right is  using this as a cause for their wanting to have guns.  
BTW, I've stated here that I believe in the 2nd Amendment and that 
probably the right to have guns may well have prevented coup d'etats in 
this country.  However I don't feel people need to collect automatic 
weapons like machine guns.  We had a federal law in place that prevented 
that but for some crazy reason the Repugs made sure it expired.  Maybe 
they want us all shooting at each other so they can declare martial law, 
take away all our rights and steal our property?

Obama has done a fairly good job of being a Republican president.

On 07/14/2013 01:23 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
 Or Barack Obama LOL! Dude, get real. So, Trayvon Martin is... err, was a left 
 wing hero? Did you listen to the evidence or just the speculation? Almost all 
 of what I heard on CNN, MSNBC and NBC was pure speculation. Zimmerman 
 racially profiled, stalked and murdered Trayvon while only showing us photos 
 of a much younger, sweet, smiling child. Rarely, if ever, admitting facts but 
 speculating what *must* have happened, as did the Prosecution and trying to 
 squeeze around known facts. At least Fox laid out both sides of the stories 
 all along as they became available.


 From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.


 Interesting that the right wingers here feel justice has been served.
 Wonder what they would be thinking if Zimmerman shot one of their heroes
 like Paul Ryan?

 On 07/14/2013 12:56 PM, wgm4u wrote:
 Justice has been served in this case, only God can guarantee perfect 
 justice, deal with it. American jurisprudence is the best we can do as 
 imperfect human beings in an imperfect world. Who knows what really 
 happened?, and, is there really man made Global warming?, depends on who you 
 believe I guess.

 I don't know, nor do you!

 --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... 
 wrote:
 Well.. that actually makes one. The state did not prove their case. The 
 defense didn't need to , but they did.


 From: Bhairitu noozguru@...
 To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

 Â
 On 07/13/2013 05:33 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
 Bhairitu, you are a victim of what the media has been trying to convince 
 everyone of, that Zimmerman followed Trayvon AFTER he was told not to. He 
 followed him and THEN was told not to when 911 heard him out of breath. 
 They said we don't need you to do that.
 There are two people who know what really happened. One is dead and the
 other is a proven liar.







Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-14 Thread Mike Dixon
Self defense laws , in just about any state, require that a person be in fear 
of their life or serious bodily injury in order to use deadly force. That is 
why I'm all for as many people getting a permit to carry, as feel comfortable 
to do so. Not everybody is big and bad enough to take a beating or defend 
against one bare handed and survive. You can't tell me that oh, I can take so 
many blows to the head and survive, I'll wait till the last possible one to 
pull that gun out and use it. Zimmerman took a lot of pounding, numerous blows 
to the head before drawing his gun, which he claims he did only after he 
thought Trayvon saw it and was going for it . There was a witness that saw him 
down taking a beating and I'll give Zimmerman the benefit of the doubt as to 
whether Trayvon saw and attempted to go for the gun.

 


 From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 4:43 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
  
   
 


--- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@... 
wrote:

 Re Anyone with a gun who shoots an unarmed man in a public place has
 committed a crime. : not if he is convinced his own life is in danger.
 Like it or not that's what the law says in Florida.
 And even if the law didn't say that I'd shoot someone regardless if I
 thought he was going to assault me unprovoked and I had a gun handy.

That is the crux right there, a very good reason why guns have no business in 
the hands of any member of the public. The threat of a broken jaw, a few 
stitches is not worth taking the life of another for. Level playing fields are 
not created by putting guns in the hands of those scared enough or angry enough 
to use them against others without a gun. Violence happens, people get 
threatened, injured, killed all the time. Add guns into the mix and you 
exponentially increase the bloodletting. No one will ever be able to convince 
me that guns are a right I should exercise or fight for. I didn't want to get 
into this topic but I guess I have now.
 
 --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
 
  Ah, so he is an *intelligent* racist?? Anyone with a gun who shoots an
 unarmed man in a public place has committed a crime. I personally don't
 get into the whole black and white thing like the racist dude in the
 article. I don't give a damn if one person was green and the other
 polka-dotted. Enjoy your class A delusion.


   
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-14 Thread Michael Jackson
so you think the OJ  case was fair? Maybe OJ will hire Zimmerman to be his 
butler and they can compare notes.





 From: wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 4:08 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:

 you have no real world knowledge - how could Zimmerman have drawn his weapon 
 which was in a IWB (inner waistband holster) that he claimed was either on 
 his right hip, or actually BEHIND his back (he waffled on the placement of 
 the gun in his waistband) - even if on his right hip, with Martin on him, 
 straddling his body Zimmerman's hands would have been blocked from access to 
 the weapon and how the hell could Martin have seen a black gun in a black IWB 
 on a dark rainy night when the weapon was not in his field of vision if he 
 had HIS hands over Zimmerman's face. Its a matter of placement of each 
 person's body and the limitations of the physical body. Zimmerman obviously 
 lied as to who was where - no way Martin could even have seen the gun, much 
 less grabbed for it under those circumstances, nor could Zimmerman have drawn 
 the weapon under the circumstances Zimmerman described. He lied and that's 
 it. But you won't believe it because of the dead boy's
 color.

Amigo Jackson-We don't really KNOW what happened! We do know Trayvon Martin and 
his family got a fair hearing on the matter and the state failed to prove it's 
case to a fair minded Jury, that's it! Only God guarantees perfect justice and 
I don't think he needs YOUR *opinion* to reach it! end.


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-14 Thread Michael Jackson
wrong again - you discount the idea that the local law enforcement didn't give 
a shit about Martin because of his color - my step father was a cop in a small 
Southern town in SC and I know from him the level of prejudice that existed and 
still exists today in many Southern towns - it happens, don't doubt that.





 From: Seraphita s3raph...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:23 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
 


  
Yes, I've a lot of sympathy for your point here Ann - but then here in the UK 
we have some of the strictest gun-control laws in the world! You're not even 
allowed to carry pepper spray as a deterrent as you can in France, for example.

The bottom-line in this Zimmerman case is probably that it should never have 
been a case at all as there was always insufficient evidence to take it to 
court. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann  wrote:


 That is the crux right there, a very good reason why guns have no business in 
 the hands of any member of the public. The threat of a broken jaw, a few 
 stitches is not worth taking the life of another for. Level playing fields 
 are not created by putting guns in the hands of those scared enough or angry 
 enough to use them against others without a gun. Violence happens, people get 
 threatened, injured, killed all the time. Add guns into the mix and you 
 exponentially increase the bloodletting. No one will ever be able to convince 
 me that guns are a right I should exercise or fight for. I didn't want to get 
 into this topic but I guess I have now.
  


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-14 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Yep you are very compassionate inspite of your supreme knowledge that it is
all ultimately Self - we are too styoopid, over-the-top emotional,
reactive, irony-challenged to recognize how lucky we are that you have
graced this list under the guise of this Zimmerman-Martin saga. Why didn't
your racist-conservative-liberal-libertarian-quietist views not wake us up
from our stupor?

Xeno baby - you have competition, watch out !!! You really need to nail
this retard first before you get to Emily.





On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Seraphita s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **


 Re I disagree completely: now that made me laugh as we do finally
 agree. I also am not one to protest reality (I'm a quietist at heart). I
 don't really care that much what happens to Zimmerman from here on in; he
 can look after himself. And, yep, karma's a bitch alright.


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote:
 
  Yeah, OK. I disagree completely, though I am not one to protest reality.
 I don't care what happens to the killer - karma's a bitch.
 

  



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-14 Thread Ravi Chivukula
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **




 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
 wrote:
 
  Yep you are very compassionate inspite of your supreme knowledge that it
 is
  all ultimately Self - we are too styoopid, over-the-top emotional,
  reactive, irony-challenged to recognize how lucky we are that you have
  graced this list under the guise of this Zimmerman-Martin saga. Why
 didn't
  your racist-conservative-liberal-libertarian-quietist views not wake us
 up
  from our stupor?
 
  Xeno baby - you have competition, watch out !!! You really need to nail
  this retard first before you get to Emily.

 Ravi, I love you for your wildness, your spunk, your wild abandon. You are
 OUT OF CONTROL!!!


Yep I'm opposite of the Seraphita, Xeno pseudo-Eastern, neo-advaita,
Buddhist types - if it's all Self why not be totally wild and out of
control and provocative?


 
 
 
 
 
  On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote:
 
   **

  
  
   Re I disagree completely: now that made me laugh as we do finally
   agree. I also am not one to protest reality (I'm a quietist at heart).
 I
   don't really care that much what happens to Zimmerman from here on in;
 he
   can look after himself. And, yep, karma's a bitch alright.
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
   
Yeah, OK. I disagree completely, though I am not one to protest
 reality.
   I don't care what happens to the killer - karma's a bitch.
   
  
  
  
 

  



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-14 Thread Emily Reyn
Ravi - playful guy you are.  I think the feelings that came through my post 
may scare Xeno away.  Smile.  I'm not expecting anything in that regard; Xeno 
put in a yoeman's effort today on that response to Barry, which I admit to 
finding very humorous - the Judy quotes were marvelous.  



 From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
 


  
Yep you are very compassionate inspite of your supreme knowledge that it is all 
ultimately Self - we are too styoopid, over-the-top emotional, reactive, 
irony-challenged to recognize how lucky we are that you have graced this list 
under the guise of this Zimmerman-Martin saga. Why didn't your 
racist-conservative-liberal-libertarian-quietist views not wake us up from our 
stupor?

Xeno baby - you have competition, watch out !!! You really need to nail this 
retard first before you get to Emily.







On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Seraphita s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
  
Re I disagree completely: now that made me laugh as we do finally agree. I 
also am not one to protest reality (I'm a quietist at heart). I don't really 
care that much what happens to Zimmerman from here on in; he can look after 
himself. And, yep, karma's a bitch alright.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:

 Yeah, OK. I disagree completely, though I am not one to protest reality. I 
 don't care what happens to the killer - karma's a bitch.
 



 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-14 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Well dear Em - it's not as much scary as offensive and insulting. Did you
not hear from Seraphita? That kind of over the top neediness is creepy to
the likes of Xeno, Seraphita and Barry - they are the stern, stoic,
spiritual Gurus. This is serious shit OK Em?



On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 10:06 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.comwrote:

 **


 Ravi - playful guy you are.  I think the feelings that came through my
 post may scare Xeno away.  Smile.  I'm not expecting anything in that
 regard; Xeno put in a yoeman's effort today on that response to Barry,
 which I admit to finding very humorous - the Judy quotes were marvelous.

   --
  *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
 *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:22 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails
 it.


 Yep you are very compassionate inspite of your supreme knowledge that it
 is all ultimately Self - we are too styoopid, over-the-top emotional,
 reactive, irony-challenged to recognize how lucky we are that you have
 graced this list under the guise of this Zimmerman-Martin saga. Why didn't
 your racist-conservative-liberal-libertarian-quietist views not wake us up
 from our stupor?

 Xeno baby - you have competition, watch out !!! You really need to nail
 this retard first before you get to Emily.





 On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Seraphita s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **

   Re I disagree completely: now that made me laugh as we do finally
 agree. I also am not one to protest reality (I'm a quietist at heart). I
 don't really care that much what happens to Zimmerman from here on in; he
 can look after himself. And, yep, karma's a bitch alright.


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote:
 
  Yeah, OK. I disagree completely, though I am not one to protest reality.
 I don't care what happens to the killer - karma's a bitch.
 




   



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-13 Thread Mike Dixon
Problem is, had Zimmerman done as this old fart suggests, leave the gun at 
home, Zimmerman may very well have been the dead one. I think the defense has 
more than adequately shown that Trayvon ambushed Zimmerman while walking back 
to his car, initiated violence with a sucker- punch to the nose, repeatedly 
slammed his head against concrete, while pinning him down and according to 
Zimmerman, covered his mouth and nose and told him he was going to die tonight. 
The only injuries on Trayvon were bruised knuckles(from pounding Zimmerman and 
the gun shot to the heart), no bruises to head or body,no indications Zimmerman 
ever so much as touched Trayvon. The prosecution proved nothing, only 
suggesting a series of *what if's*. Charges never should have been filed 
against Zimmerman and were only done so out of political pressure. The media 
has been wanting a *race dialog* since Obama took office, remember the Louis 
Gates fiasco?Thing is, just like Trayvon,
 they(the media) aren't picking their fights very well. They need a slam dunk 
and Florida vs Zimmerman isn't one. My intuition tells me that old man is 
really a college prof. trying to come off as an old red-neck trying to erase 
his *white guilt*. Sorry, I just don't buy it,LOL!

From: Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 6:41 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
  This guy nails it for me Seraphitarded baby
  
  http://youtu.be/xTNtJoYSHa4
 
 Outta SIGHT, man. Where'd you find this?
 
On YouTube? LoL!

  On 7/12/13 3:57 PM, Seraphita wrote:
  
   When conservative commentator Mark Steyn is on form
   he can pen some of the best journalism on the web. 
   I'm in awe at his piece about the George Zimmerman 
   stitch-up. Read it and weep.
  
   *http://tinyurl.com/qxadrqa*




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-13 Thread Mike Dixon
Seraphita, it doesn't pay to *think* on FFL, you must *feel*. You must *feel* 
empathy for the downtrodden. You have to feel their *pain*  and wallow in it 
with them, regardless of whether they are right or wrong. That shows others, 
that you really *care* and if you really *care*, others will *love* you, just 
like Sally Fields! You see, Trayvon was just a poor little innocent black 
child, never hurt a fly( just look at the pictures  when he was twelve), just 
bought Skittles for his little brother and tea for himself and was skipping 
home in the rain when that evil ,white... err, I mean, White Hispanic,  was 
following him, probably going to molest him(weed induced paranoia) and then 
that creepy- ass cracker pulled out a gun and just shot him because he looked 
suspicious and was going to get away again. Just don't think about the 
facts. Just *feel* and you'll be loved.

From: Seraphita s3raph...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 10:10 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
Actually I'm neither right-wing nor left-wing - I'm happy to leave that kind of 
dualistic thinking to the unenlightened. If anything, I'm closest to being anti 
the state in my approach to politics, so on the political right I enjoy those 
conservative writers who oppose the encroaching nanny state and on the 
political left I'm a big fan of those old anarchist theoreticians (and I'll 
give a nod to the hippies also). If over your side of the pond you call someone 
with views like mine a right-wing fundamentalist then that's what I am! The 
terminology is misleading though. 

But re your comment Why you care enough about this subject : because I care 
about justice!  What would you think of someone who couldn't give a shit if 
Zimmerman was convicted or not?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:  Childish rants appears 
to be what this post of yours is. It not only earmarks you as right wing but 
rather fundamentalist in the worst kind of way, not to mention insulting as a 
result of others not agreeing with your viewpoints. I don't think any TM 
checking could cure you of any of these afflictions either. Why you care enough 
about this subject enough to demonstrate these unsavoury characteristics you 
evidently possess is one of those mysteries of life. We've got a couple of 
assholes here already, I guess another one won't hurt.  


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-13 Thread Michael Jackson
Oh, its just a matter of time - you know, when Bevan announces the Srvastavas 
boys and Girish are selling the MUM campus to a developer and the university is 
no more. Granted it will only be Buck a a hundred others or so who will riot, 
but still.





 From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 1:05 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
 


  
We do not have riots in Iowa. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote:

 Thanks for the sane - and reasoned - response (as opposed to the
 childish rants of the other posters).  Photographs of Zimmerman taken at
 the time of the incident show he suffered a terrifying assault. Let's
 support the real victims not the knuckle-dragging thugs. I see you guys
 in Iowa can get concealed-carry permits for handguns. In the unlikely
 event  Zimmerman is freed you may need one when the rent-a-mob rioters
 hit the streets. :-)
 And the old fart in the vid is clearly suffering symptoms of heavy
 unstressing. He needs to get to a TM check.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
 
  Problem is, had Zimmerman done as this old fart suggests, leave the
 gun at home, Zimmerman may very well have been the dead one. I think
 the defense has more than adequately shown that Trayvon ambushed
 Zimmerman while walking back to his car, initiated violence with a
 sucker- punch to the nose, repeatedly slammed his head against concrete,
 while pinning him down and according to Zimmerman, covered his mouth and
 nose and told him he was going to die tonight. The only injuries on
 Trayvon were bruised knuckles(from pounding Zimmerman and the gun shot
 to the heart), no bruises to head or body,no indications Zimmerman ever
 so much as touched Trayvon. The prosecution proved nothing, only
 suggesting a series of *what if's*. Charges never should have been
 filed against Zimmerman and were only done so out of political
 pressure. The media has been wanting a *race dialog* since Obama took
 office, remember the Louis Gates fiasco?Thing is, just like Trayvon,
   they(the media)Â aren't picking their fights very well. They need
 a slam dunk and Florida vs Zimmerman isn't one. My intuition tells me
 that old man is really a college prof. trying to come off as an old
 red-neck trying to erase his *white guilt*. Sorry, I just don't buy
 it,LOL!
 
  From: Richard J. Williams richard@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 6:41 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails
 it.
 
  Â
This guy nails it for me Seraphitarded baby
   
http://youtu.be/xTNtJoYSHa4
   
   Outta SIGHT, man. Where'd you find this?
  
  On YouTube? LoL!
 
On 7/12/13 3:57 PM, Seraphita wrote:

 When conservative commentator Mark Steyn is on form
 he can pen some of the best journalism on the web.
 I'm in awe at his piece about the George Zimmerman
 stitch-up. Read it and weep.

 *http://tinyurl.com/qxadrqa*
 



 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-13 Thread Mike Dixon
Oh girl, you just stepped in it. You've agreed with me twice and that just 
*black listed* you on FFL. LOL, sorry. BTW if you want to back-off, I don't 
believe in abortion,  except to protect the life of the mother and I don't 
believe in food stamps, except in real hardship cases. I used to be very 
liberal and then I got a job. Now I believe in personal responsibility. Welcome 
to FFL! LOL


From: Seraphita s3raph...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 11:02 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
Nicely put.  

And we Brits don't really do feelings - which is why the hysterical responses 
by some of the other posters just strike me as absurd. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: Seraphita, it doesn't 
pay to *think* on FFL, you must *feel*. You must *feel* empathy for the 
downtrodden. You have to feel their *pain*  and wallow in it with them, 
regardless of whether they are right or wrong. That shows others, that you 
really *care* and if you really *care*, others will *love* you, just like Sally 
Fields! You see, Trayvon was just a poor little innocent black child, never 
hurt a fly( just look at the pictures  when he was twelve), just bought 
Skittles for his little brother and tea for himself and was skipping home in 
the rain when that evil ,white... err, I mean, White Hispanic,  was following 
him, probably going to molest him(weed induced paranoia) and then that creepy- 
ass cracker pulled out a gun and just shot him because he looked suspicious 
and was going to get away again. Just don't think about the facts. Just 
*feel* and you'll be loved.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-13 Thread Mike Dixon
Are you saying that Fla vs Zimmerman is a poitical issue?


From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 11:30 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
--- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... 
wrote:

 Oh girl, you just stepped in it. You've agreed with me twice
 and that just *black listed* you on FFL.

Oh, sweetie, she didn't need to agree with you to give us
an excellent idea of how she approaches political issues.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-13 Thread Michael Jackson
So Brits are like Vulcans then - British Vulcans - who would-a thought it?! Now 
we know who is doing all the crop circles that Nabby gets so worked up about.





 From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 2:29 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
 


  


I'm willing to cut you some slack since you have admitted to being an 
emotionally retarded Brit. God knows, there are enough of those. But in my 
experience, people who claim that they don't do feelings are in fact awash in 
feelings all the time--they just don't know what to do with them. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote:

 Nicely put.
 And we Brits don't really do feelings - which is why the hysterical
 responses by some of the other posters just strike me as absurd.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
 
  Seraphita, it doesn't pay to *think* on FFL, you must *feel*. You must
 *feel* empathy for the downtrodden. You have to feel their *pain*Â 
 and wallow in it with them, regardless of whether they are right or
 wrong. That shows others, that you really *care* and if you really
 *care*, others will *love* you, just like Sally Fields! You see,
 Trayvon was just a poor little innocent black child, never hurt a fly(
 just look at the pictures  when he was twelve), just bought Skittles
 for his little brother and tea for himself and was skipping home in the
 rain when that evil ,white... err, I mean, White Hispanic,  was
 following him, probably going to molest him(weed induced paranoia)Â
 and then that creepy- ass cracker pulled out a gun and just shot him
 because he looked suspicious and was going to get away again. Just
 don't think about the facts. Just *feel* and you'll be loved.



 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-13 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/13/2013 09:34 AM, Seraphita wrote:
 Thanks for the sane - and reasoned - response (as opposed to the
 childish rants of the other posters).  Photographs of Zimmerman taken at
 the time of the incident show he suffered a terrifying assault. Let's
 support the real victims not the knuckle-dragging thugs. I see you guys
 in Iowa can get concealed-carry permits for handguns. In the unlikely
 event  Zimmerman is freed you may need one when the rent-a-mob rioters
 hit the streets. :-)
 And the old fart in the vid is clearly suffering symptoms of heavy
 unstressing. He needs to get to a TM check.

Fact is even some conservatives don't feel that Zimmerman should have 
followed Martin and should have followed what the police dispatcher told 
him to do.  Zimmerman is too much like the cowboy cops that many 
conservatives disdain.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-13 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Hi Judy - someone posted it on Facebook. Didn't expect all this traction,
but looks like a perfect response in retrospect, gives good insights in to
this Seraphita person - male or female?

The old man showed lot of heart - his pain and anguish even as he covered
all the points. Perfect response for our emotionally stunted Seraphita.
Wonder what Xeno thinks?

I would at least convict George of manslaughter.



On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 5:57 AM, authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
 wrote:
 
  This guy nails it for me Seraphitarded baby
 
  http://youtu.be/xTNtJoYSHa4

 Outta SIGHT, man. Where'd you find this?


  On 7/12/13 3:57 PM, Seraphita wrote:
  
   When conservative commentator Mark Steyn is on form he can pen some of
   the best journalism on the web. I'm in awe at his piece about the
   George Zimmerman stitch-up. Read it and weep.
  
   *http://tinyurl.com/qxadrqa*
  
 

  



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-13 Thread Mike Dixon
Bhairitu, you are a victim of what the media has been trying to convince 
everyone of, that Zimmerman followed Trayvon AFTER he was told not to.  He 
followed him and THEN was told not to when 911 heard him out of breath. They 
said we don't need you to do that. He stopped and said OK and lost sight of 
Trayvon. He then walked down a walk way to get an address to give dispatch so 
police would know the exact location. On his way back to his car, Trayvon 
jumped out and asked Zimmerman if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no, I don't 
have a problem and Trayvon said now you do and sucker punched him in the 
nose, knocking him to the ground, jumping on him and pinning him down, pounding 
Zimmerman with his fists and banging his head on concrete. The evidence is in 
Zimmerman's injuries to his face, back of his head, grass and water on his back 
and eyewitnesses who saw Trayvon on top of him. The media has been less than 
honest with this case and has tried to
 deceive people early on. NBC was even caught editing 911 calls to make 
Zimmerman look as if he were racially profiling. He looks black was only said 
AFTER 911 dispatch had asked for the race of the suspect. Before that, 
Zimmerman had not mentioned race in his call to 911. As I've said earlier, 
this was meant to start the *great race dialog* the nation was supposed to 
have, the one that was intended with Louis Gates. Remember when the President 
said I don't know the facts, but the police acted stupidly. If I had a son, 
he would look like Trayvon. God, I hope not. The media keeps trying to set- up 
the racial dialog but it keeps backfiring in their faces.

From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
On 07/13/2013 09:34 AM, Seraphita wrote:
 Thanks for the sane - and reasoned - response (as opposed to the
 childish rants of the other posters). Photographs of Zimmerman taken at
 the time of the incident show he suffered a terrifying assault. Let's
 support the real victims not the knuckle-dragging thugs. I see you guys
 in Iowa can get concealed-carry permits for handguns. In the unlikely
 event Zimmerman is freed you may need one when the rent-a-mob rioters
 hit the streets. :-)
 And the old fart in the vid is clearly suffering symptoms of heavy
 unstressing. He needs to get to a TM check.

Fact is even some conservatives don't feel that Zimmerman should have 
followed Martin and should have followed what the police dispatcher told 
him to do. Zimmerman is too much like the cowboy cops that many 
conservatives disdain.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-13 Thread Michael Jackson
there are a lot of stupid mother fuckers out there with guns who don't know how 
to use them responsibly and Zimmerman is one of them - if he hadn't been trying 
to play cop, Martin would be alive today. 

As someone who has used .22's, .38's, .357 Magnums and has fired my brothers 
SKS and his model 1894 Winchester (and others) I say that ownership of firearms 
here in the US is an unfortunate necessity for many, but one should know when 
and how to use them. I do. Zimmerman doesn't and a young man is dead because of 
Zimmerman's stupidity. He should be in jail tonight.





 From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
 


  
Bhairitu, you are a victim of what the media has been trying to convince 
everyone of, that Zimmerman followed Trayvon AFTER he was told not to.  He 
followed him and THEN was told not to when 911 heard him out of breath. They 
said we don't need you to do that. He stopped and said OK and lost sight of 
Trayvon. He then walked down a walk way to get an address to give dispatch so 
police would know the exact location. On his way back to his car, Trayvon 
jumped out and asked Zimmerman if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no, I don't 
have a problem and Trayvon said now you do and sucker punched him in the 
nose, knocking him to the ground, jumping on him and pinning him down, pounding 
Zimmerman with his fists and banging his head on concrete. The evidence is in 
Zimmerman's injuries to his face, back of his head, grass and water on his back 
and eyewitnesses who saw Trayvon on top of him. The media has been less than 
honest with this case and has tried to
 deceive people early on. NBC was even caught editing 911 calls to make 
Zimmerman look as if he were racially profiling. He looks black was only said 
AFTER 911 dispatch had asked for the race of the suspect. Before that, 
Zimmerman had not mentioned race in his call to 911. As I've said earlier, 
this was meant to start the *great race dialog* the nation was supposed to 
have, the one that was intended with Louis Gates. Remember when the President 
said I don't know the facts, but the police acted stupidly. If I had a son, 
he would look like Trayvon. God, I hope not. The media keeps trying to set- up 
the racial dialog but it keeps backfiring in their faces.

From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
On 07/13/2013 09:34 AM, Seraphita wrote:
 Thanks for the sane - and reasoned - response (as opposed to the
 childish rants of the other posters). Photographs of Zimmerman taken at
 the time of the incident show he suffered a terrifying assault. Let's
 support the real victims not the knuckle-dragging thugs. I see you guys
 in Iowa can get concealed-carry permits for handguns. In the unlikely
 event Zimmerman is freed you may need one when the rent-a-mob rioters
 hit the streets. :-)
 And the old fart in the vid is clearly suffering symptoms of heavy
 unstressing. He needs to get to a TM check.

Fact is even some conservatives don't feel that Zimmerman should have 
followed Martin and should have followed what the police dispatcher told 
him to do. Zimmerman is
 too much like the cowboy cops that many 
conservatives disdain.


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-13 Thread Michael Jackson
Oh and by the way, stupid people generally don't learn well, if at all. It 
won't be long till Zimmerman is in trouble with the law again. Wait and see.





 From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.
 


  
Bhairitu, you are a victim of what the media has been trying to convince 
everyone of, that Zimmerman followed Trayvon AFTER he was told not to.  He 
followed him and THEN was told not to when 911 heard him out of breath. They 
said we don't need you to do that. He stopped and said OK and lost sight of 
Trayvon. He then walked down a walk way to get an address to give dispatch so 
police would know the exact location. On his way back to his car, Trayvon 
jumped out and asked Zimmerman if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no, I don't 
have a problem and Trayvon said now you do and sucker punched him in the 
nose, knocking him to the ground, jumping on him and pinning him down, pounding 
Zimmerman with his fists and banging his head on concrete. The evidence is in 
Zimmerman's injuries to his face, back of his head, grass and water on his back 
and eyewitnesses who saw Trayvon on top of him. The media has been less than 
honest with this case and has tried to
 deceive people early on. NBC was even caught editing 911 calls to make 
Zimmerman look as if he were racially profiling. He looks black was only said 
AFTER 911 dispatch had asked for the race of the suspect. Before that, 
Zimmerman had not mentioned race in his call to 911. As I've said earlier, 
this was meant to start the *great race dialog* the nation was supposed to 
have, the one that was intended with Louis Gates. Remember when the President 
said I don't know the facts, but the police acted stupidly. If I had a son, 
he would look like Trayvon. God, I hope not. The media keeps trying to set- up 
the racial dialog but it keeps backfiring in their faces.

From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
On 07/13/2013 09:34 AM, Seraphita wrote:
 Thanks for the sane - and reasoned - response (as opposed to the
 childish rants of the other posters). Photographs of Zimmerman taken at
 the time of the incident show he suffered a terrifying assault. Let's
 support the real victims not the knuckle-dragging thugs. I see you guys
 in Iowa can get concealed-carry permits for handguns. In the unlikely
 event Zimmerman is freed you may need one when the rent-a-mob rioters
 hit the streets. :-)
 And the old fart in the vid is clearly suffering symptoms of heavy
 unstressing. He needs to get to a TM check.

Fact is even some conservatives don't feel that Zimmerman should have 
followed Martin and should have followed what the police dispatcher told 
him to do. Zimmerman is
 too much like the cowboy cops that many 
conservatives disdain.


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

2013-07-13 Thread Mike Dixon
Yes, Trayvon might be alive today. and Zimmerman might be dead. Zimmerman 
was found not guilty by reason of *self defense*. Zimmerman never broke any 
law. Trayvon broke the law the moment he assaulted Zimmerman. For you to say 
Zimmerman didn't know how or when to use a firearm is irresponsible. I would 
assume in Florida, as in Texas, he had a permit to carry, which is given only 
after receiving training,  which would include use and legality of when it 
could be used. The Sanford police department chose not to prosecute Zimmerman 
because of the circumstances and the law. Political pressure was applied until 
charges were brought and a million dollars thrown down the drain. The media 
lied about the facts, building false hopes of *justice*. MSNBC would have you 
think Zimmerman tracked, hunted down and shot, in cold blood, a poor innocent 
teenager simply because he was black and looked out of place. The young man 
that is dead is dead because of his own
 poor decisions. If Trayvon had to confront Zimmerman, all he needed to do is 
ask Why are you following me? He could have explained that he was a guest 
visiting his father and future step- mother and he was staying at the specific 
address he was at. That would have defused the whole situation. Simple 
communications. Instead, Trayvon attacked Zimmerman, who took a lot before 
using deadly force to stop it. I think Trayvon may have had marijuana induced 
paranoia.

From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
there are a lot of stupid mother fuckers out there with guns who don't know how 
to use them responsibly and Zimmerman is one of them - if he hadn't been trying 
to play cop, Martin would be alive today. As someone who has used .22's, .38's, 
.357 Magnums and has fired my brothers SKS and his model 1894 Winchester (and 
others) I say that ownership of firearms here in the US is an unfortunate 
necessity for many, but one should know when and how to use them. I do. 
Zimmerman doesn't and a young man is dead because of Zimmerman's stupidity. He 
should be in jail tonight. 


From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
Bhairitu, you are a victim of what the media has been trying to convince 
everyone of, that Zimmerman followed Trayvon AFTER he was told not to.  He 
followed him and THEN was told not to when 911 heard him out of breath. They 
said we don't need you to do that. He stopped and said OK and lost sight of 
Trayvon. He then walked down a walk way to get an address to give dispatch so 
police would know the exact location. On his way back to his car, Trayvon 
jumped out and asked Zimmerman if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no, I don't 
have a problem and Trayvon said now you do and sucker punched him in the 
nose, knocking him to the ground, jumping on him and pinning him down, pounding 
Zimmerman with his fists and banging his head on concrete. The evidence is in 
Zimmerman's injuries to his face, back of his head, grass and water on his back 
and eyewitnesses who saw Trayvon on top of him. The media has been less than 
honest with this case and has tried to
 deceive people early on. NBC was even caught editing 911 calls to make 
Zimmerman look as if he were racially profiling. He looks black was only said 
AFTER 911 dispatch had asked for the race of the suspect. Before that, 
Zimmerman had not mentioned race in his call to 911. As I've said earlier, 
this was meant to start the *great race dialog* the nation was supposed to 
have, the one that was intended with Louis Gates. Remember when the President 
said I don't know the facts, but the police acted stupidly. If I had a son, 
he would look like Trayvon. God, I hope not. The media keeps trying to set- up 
the racial dialog but it keeps backfiring in their faces.

From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The George Zimmerman case: Steyn nails it.

  
On 07/13/2013 09:34 AM, Seraphita wrote: Thanks for the sane - and reasoned - 
response (as opposed to the childish rants of the other posters). Photographs 
of Zimmerman taken at the time of the incident show he suffered a terrifying 
assault. Let's support the real victims not the knuckle-dragging thugs. I see 
you guys in Iowa can get concealed-carry permits for handguns. In the 
unlikely event Zimmerman is freed you may need one when the rent-a-mob 
rioters hit the streets. :-) And the old fart in the vid is clearly suffering 
symptoms of heavy unstressing. He needs to get to a TM check.Fact is even some 
conservatives don't feel that Zimmerman should have followed Martin