Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Variety article on Lynch film

2006-09-08 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Sep 8, 2006, at 10:20 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

> He *can* do that (The Straight Story), but IMO he
> goes for obscure whenever he needs money, because
> he knows that it sells. Americans are not quite
> the suckers for pretence and pomposity that the
> French are, but enough of the critics are to ensure
> a few good reviews, and thus a break-even at the
> box office, which is the most important thing to
> any director who hopes to direct another film
> after his current one.
>
> I don't personally like his style of filmmaking
> very much, but I have to say that almost *everything*
> he's ever released, *including* Eraserhead, has been
> better than the recent clip. That footage gives me no
> hope whatsoever for the final film.

I'd say, at least re: Mullholland Drive, that Dr. Pete's comment about 
"film-school crap" pretty much sums up my feelings as well.  I'd give 
Lynch a bit more credit than that, perhaps, but not much.

Sal



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Variety article on Lynch film

2006-09-08 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Sep 8, 2006, at 7:57 AM, Peter wrote:

> I've always regarded much, not all, of Lynch's work as
> "film school crap" Lynch has a very creepy aspect to
> him that can be manifested in his films. Ever seen
> "Ereaser Head" ? It is a disgusting, grossly over
> rated sick film. The clip in discussion is just more
> pretentious film nonsense. Notice the chromakey effect
> (or whatever it's called now in digital film making,
> it's been a few decades!)with the male actor? What's
> that for? I just don't like his work. I see Lynch as
> quite disturbed. Something is "off" in his psyche.

But he doesn't act disturbed--in fact, from the weekend he spent here, 
he sounded and acted almost normal. :)

It could be that he's simply bored with the more "traditional" style of 
making films, ie telling a story with some kind of beginning, middle, 
and end, and with the characters relating to each other in something 
that at least tries to resemble real life, and that he's trying to 
create something different, to "push" the medium, as it were.

If that's the case, more power to him.  My problem with his films, at 
least Mulholland Drive, the only one recently I've had even the least 
desire to sit through, is that they're weird, scary, and ultimately, 
for me at least, boring.  What the (bleep) went on in that film?? There 
was little story line that I could identify as such, and the characters 
seemed like they were cut out of comic books. It reminded me of nothing 
so much as a "deep" movie that everybody is supposed to think is great, 
even though no one really had any idea what the (bleep) actually 
happened, but are too scared to say so, thinking that it's their 
problem, and that everyone else got it because they're so much smarter, 
more perceptive, etc.  You know, kind of like the trip the TMO lays on 
people. :)

Anyway, Lynch himself seems nice enough, and I'm sure he's 
talented--maybe one of these days he'll start making movies people 
actually want to watch.

Sal



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Variety article on Lynch film

2006-09-08 Thread Peter


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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
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> > Zombiewoman1: Will you give me a sip of your
> drink?
> > 
> > Zombiewoman2: Sure. You can have the rest.
> 
> That scene could have been awesome. All it needed
> was for there to be
> a fast-acting poison in the drink that makes
> Zombiewoman1 go into
> violent convulsions, with blood and puke exploding
> out of her mouth.

Or as Howard Stern would advocate, the two women need
to have a lesbian love scene and then they could get
in a kung-fu fight with the guy. Awsome!




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Variety article on Lynch film

2006-09-08 Thread Peter


--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
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> >
> > > > > It had its moments...
> > > > 
> > > > Oh really? Where?  :-)
> > > > 
> > > > > ...and no-one knows if this was a final cut,
> or a 
> > > > > rejected take. 
> > > > 
> > > > This was heavily edited footage made from
> several
> > > > different takes (you can tell because of the
> changing
> > > > light conditions), taken from many different
> camera 
> > > > angles.
> > > > 
> > > > > You guys LOVE to pre-judge, doncha?
> > > > 
> > > > And, as I said before, you LOVE to make
> excuses
> > > > for anything TM-related, doncha?
> > > > 
> > > > If that's not what's happening, answer the
> first
> > > > question above. Exactly WHAT did you feel was
> a
> > > > good "moment" in this piece of crap?
> > > 
> > > Some of the expressions and meaningful glances 
> > > between the two women looked very real-to-life 
> > > rather than Hollywood emotions.
> > 
> > In all seriousness, Lawson, if their interactions 
> > struck you as "real-to-life," you're ready to join
> > Nablus in accepting the pronouncements of Creme. 
> :-)
> > 
> > Stop embarrassing yourself, dude. The only reason
> > you are cutting this stuff any slack is because
> > Lynch is a well-known TMer. If he were anything
> > else you'd be as amazed at its awfulness as every-
> > one else here has been. And if he were a prominent
> 
> > Buddhist, you'd be saying that the footage proves 
> > that Buddhist meditation techniques make the mind 
> > confused and lazy.  
> > 
> > Sparaig's idea of real-to-life dialog, devoid
> > of fake Hollywood emotion:
> > 
> > Zombiewoman1: Will you give me a sip of your
> drink?
> > 
> > Zombiewoman2: Sure. You can have the rest.
> > 
> > :-)  :-)  :-)
> > 
> > The hilarious thing is that now, having "stood up"
> > for Lynch and put his cred on the line, Sparaig's 
> > actually going have to see the movie and sit
> through 
> > almost three hours of this mindnumbingly awful
> pap, 
> > three hours of his life he'll never get back.
> >
> 
> Are you trying to show your lack of reading
> comprehension? I said nothing about dialog. I 
> said the meaningful glances between the two women
> were more true-to-life than much of 
> the emotive stuff that traditionally comes out of
> Hollywood. "Meaningful glances" doesn't 
> mean "talking out loud."

I've always regarded much, not all, of Lynch's work as
"film school crap" Lynch has a very creepy aspect to
him that can be manifested in his films. Ever seen
"Ereaser Head" ? It is a disgusting, grossly over
rated sick film. The clip in discussion is just more
pretentious film nonsense. Notice the chromakey effect
(or whatever it's called now in digital film making,
it's been a few decades!)with the male actor? What's
that for? I just don't like his work. I see Lynch as
quite disturbed. Something is "off" in his psyche. 




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