Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Y'all know that on Saturday Trump accused Hillary of being on drugs for the 
second debate, right? 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 Yep. Funny when trump was trashing the family of a US soldier who died in the 
Middle East, playing bad boy with not releasing his taxes, bragging about how 
smart he was, and how dumb the rest of us were, etc., etc., etc., all of his 
sycophants and fanboys and girls were as happy as p__s in s__t. The media hung 
on every word, with Matt Lauer practically wetting himself during an interview 
with the orange abomination. 

Now that trump has raised the stakes of his brattiness to include sexual 
assault against women, everyone coast to coast has had enough, game over. 
Playing the American people like saps, as trump has in every area of life he 
enters, isn't a smart idea, and eventually, if you keep pushing the envelope as 
he did, eventually you will be told in no uncertain terms, to fuck off. 

This obviously isn't some media and establishment scheme to "get him". He has 
shown himself to be a worthless, illiterate, disrespectful, low-life sex 
offender from queens. Who would possibly want such scum for president, except 
those who think the same way he does?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 No. Trump himself. I listened to him. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 And who told you that? The media?
 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   Much of the media is against Trump because he is a terrible candidate -- the 
worst the GOP has put forward in living memory. Of course the media is using 
its influence to persuade people not to vote for him. Nothing illegitimate or 
sinister about that. He is simply unqualified for the office, in any area you 
care to name. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yes they have.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 

 

 

 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 





 


 













 














 


 

















Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Hmmm, Republican campaign center in NC gets fire bombed.Cars at a Trump rally 
spray painted and vandalized, attendees at  Trump rallies attacked and beaten.
 

 Hmmm, maybe they were inspired by the Trump-supporting Milwaukee county 
sheriff who announced yesterday that it's "pitchforks and torches time." Or the 
two openly armed Trump supporters who "protested" by sitting outside a 
Democratic congressional candidate's office in Virginia for 12 hours on 
Thursday.
 

 

 

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 3:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   To repeat:  You're losing touch with reality Mikey.  Stock up your bunker, 
go buy another gun, and get ready for the apocalypse.  And, get that manifesto 
out of your head and on paper.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Saul Alinsky taught that when you're caught doing something crooked, deny deny 
deny. Then blame your accusers.
 Hillary wrote a 92 page thesis, her senior year, about Saul Alinsky who some 
claim was a *community organizer* but was actually a crook and a thug.
 


 From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   
 The "delusionals" live in their own dream world.  Interesting to see such mass 
hypnosis.
 
 On 10/16/2016 10:27 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   New York Times, July.
 
 
 

 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:authfriend@...[FairfieldLife] 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<mdixon.6569@...> mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :
 
 Yes they have.
 
 

 No, they haven't.
 

 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<mdixon.6569@...> mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :
 
 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 
 

 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@...> mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :
 
 
 






 
 













 
 












 
 








 

 


 














 


 












Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yep. Funny when trump was trashing the family of a US soldier who died in the 
Middle East, playing bad boy with not releasing his taxes, bragging about how 
smart he was, and how dumb the rest of us were, etc., etc., etc., all of his 
sycophants and fanboys and girls were as happy as p__s in s__t. The media hung 
on every word, with Matt Lauer practically wetting himself during an interview 
with the orange abomination. 

Now that trump has raised the stakes of his brattiness to include sexual 
assault against women, everyone coast to coast has had enough, game over. 
Playing the American people like saps, as trump has in every area of life he 
enters, isn't a smart idea, and eventually, if you keep pushing the envelope as 
he did, eventually you will be told in no uncertain terms, to fuck off. 

This obviously isn't some media and establishment scheme to "get him". He has 
shown himself to be a worthless, illiterate, disrespectful, low-life sex 
offender from queens. Who would possibly want such scum for president, except 
those who think the same way he does?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 No. Trump himself. I listened to him. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 And who told you that? The media?
 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   Much of the media is against Trump because he is a terrible candidate -- the 
worst the GOP has put forward in living memory. Of course the media is using 
its influence to persuade people not to vote for him. Nothing illegitimate or 
sinister about that. He is simply unqualified for the office, in any area you 
care to name. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yes they have.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 

 

 

 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 





 


 













 














 


 














Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hillary is not a crook. That's a lie, plain and simple.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 If I'm *losing touch* with reality, at least I've known it.
 You're voting for a crook, that makes Nixon look like a saint, because she's a 
*woman*. Now that's living in an alternate universe.

 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 3:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   
 

‘SNL’ parodied the second presidential debate and it will briefly make you 
enjoy this nightmarish election 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/snl-parodied-second-presidential-debate-193243530.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma
 
 
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/snl-parodied-second-presidential-debate-193243530.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma
 
 ‘SNL’ parodied the second presidential debate and it wi... 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/snl-parodied-second-presidential-debate-193243530.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma
 It’s safe to say that the second presidential debate was weird, uncomfortable, 
and almost a spoof of itself. The town hall style…


 
 View on www.yahoo.com 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/snl-parodied-second-presidential-debate-193243530.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 You're losing touch with reality Mikey.  Stock up your bunker, go buy another 
gun, and get ready for the apocalypse.  And, get that manifesto out of your 
head and on paper.  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 H, maybe she'll be *deleted*.
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 1:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   What do you think is the root of prejudice?  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 
 

By the misogynists, sexists and racists (both genders).  This country should 
afford the best in security for her 
You left out *homophobes.*

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Re: "There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen 
before. "
.   
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him and they conspire with her campaign, as is revealed in the Wikileaks 
e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the news but trying to 
influence an election. This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern 
even if she is elected. There will be a resistance to her presidency like has 
never been seen before. 
 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 





 


 















 


 













 














 


 












Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Saul Alinsky taught that when you're caught doing something crooked, deny deny 
deny. Then blame your accusers.
 

 Why do you keep saying it's a Saul Alinsky tactic when I've told you now three 
times that it's a *KARL ROVE* tactic?
 

 Here's a real Saul Alinsky tactic from Rules for Radicals, one that Trump has 
been using to great effect:
 

 The job of the organizer is to maneuver and bait the establishment so that it 
will publicly attack him as a 'dangerous enemy.' The hysterical instant 
reaction of the establishment [will] not only validate [the organizer's] 
credentials of competency but also ensure automatic popular invitation.

 

 You know that Rules for Radicals has been used to train community activists 
for the Tea Party, right?
 
 Hillary wrote a 92 page thesis, her senior year, about Saul Alinsky who some 
claim was a *community organizer*
 

 Not just "some," almost everyone. That's because, you know, he was a community 
organizer.
 

 but was actually a crook and a thug.
 

 Documentation, please. (Looks like you got this from D'Souza, right?)
 


 From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   
 The "delusionals" live in their own dream world.  Interesting to see such mass 
hypnosis.
 
 On 10/16/2016 10:27 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   New York Times, July.
 
 
 

 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:authfriend@...[FairfieldLife] 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<mdixon.6569@...> mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :
 
 Yes they have.
 
 

 No, they haven't.
 

 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<mdixon.6569@...> mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :
 
 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 
 

 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@...> mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :
 
 
 






 
 













 
 












 
 








 

 


 














Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I'd vote for Hillary regardless of her gender.  I just see it as a bonus that 
she's a woman, because there is something very true and real about watching 
that ceiling break.  Sorry dude.   

 Now, why do you think Hillary wants to be groped?  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Voting *for* someone because of their sex is sexism.
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 3:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   
 "She'll be the first woman to be president! That must count for something!"
 

 Yes, Mike, it does!  You're making progress.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 He is simply unqualified for the office, in any area you care to name. 


 
  And Hillary is? She put state secrets at risk. Blames the Russians for her 
E-mails being hacked because she failed to follow the law and use government 
approved E-mail, lied about it and tried to destroy evidence in an 
investigation. She abandoned diplomats in Libya to die and then blamed a video 
for their deaths. Set off the greatest mass migration of refugees the world has 
seen, flooding Europe with millions of displaced people.Approved the sale of 
1/5 of our countries uranium to Russia for a *donation* to the Clinton 
Foundation. Used money for Haitian earthquake victims for friends of Bill. Pay 
for play. Lies through her teeth. How the F can you believe a word she says? 
Takes tens of, if not hundreds of millions in donations from countries seeking 
favors, countries that treat their women like shit and murder their gay 
population. Wants to open our borders and send our jobs overseas. But hey! 
She'll be the first woman to be president! That must count for something!


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   And who told you that? The media?
 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Much of the media is against Trump because he is a terrible candidate -- the 
worst the GOP has put forward in living memory. Of course the media is using 
its influence to persuade people not to vote for him. Nothing illegitimate or 
sinister about that.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yes they have.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 

 

 

 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 





 


 













 














 













 


 














 


 













Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread feste37
No. Trump himself. I listened to him. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 And who told you that? The media?
 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   Much of the media is against Trump because he is a terrible candidate -- the 
worst the GOP has put forward in living memory. Of course the media is using 
its influence to persuade people not to vote for him. Nothing illegitimate or 
sinister about that. He is simply unqualified for the office, in any area you 
care to name. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yes they have.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 

 

 

 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 





 


 













 














 


 












Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
What does your response have to do with my reply to you?  I'll leave you be, 
Mike.  You're off the deep end, more and more. Watch that SNL clip and say 
goodbye to Trump's nominations for the Supreme Court.  
 

 "Ms. Rodham endorsed Mr. Alinsky’s central critique of government antipoverty 
programs — that they tended to be too top-down and removed from the wishes of 
individuals.
 But the student leader split with Mr. Alinsky over a central point. He vowed 
to ‘rub raw the sores of discontent’ and compel action through agitation. This, 
she believed, ran counter to the notion of change within the system." 
(Washington Post)

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Hmmm, Republican campaign center in NC gets fire bombed.Cars at a Trump rally 
spray painted and vandalized, attendees at  Trump rallies attacked and beaten.
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 3:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   To repeat:  You're losing touch with reality Mikey.  Stock up your bunker, 
go buy another gun, and get ready for the apocalypse.  And, get that manifesto 
out of your head and on paper.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Saul Alinsky taught that when you're caught doing something crooked, deny deny 
deny. Then blame your accusers.
 Hillary wrote a 92 page thesis, her senior year, about Saul Alinsky who some 
claim was a *community organizer* but was actually a crook and a thug.
 


 From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   
 The "delusionals" live in their own dream world.  Interesting to see such mass 
hypnosis.
 
 On 10/16/2016 10:27 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   New York Times, July.
 
 
 

 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:authfriend@...[FairfieldLife] 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<mdixon.6569@...> mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :
 
 Yes they have.
 
 

 No, they haven't.
 

 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<mdixon.6569@...> mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :
 
 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 
 

 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@...> mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :
 
 
 






 
 













 
 












 
 








 

 


 














 


 










  


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 He is simply unqualified for the office, in any area you care to name. 


 And Hillary is? She put state secrets at risk.
 

 Documentation, please.
 

 Blames the Russians for her E-mails being hacked because she failed to follow 
the law and use government approved E-mail, lied about it and tried to destroy 
evidence in an investigation.
 

 Five lies in a row. There's no evidence that her emails were hacked, so 
there's nothing on that score to blame the Russians for. It has actually been 
the *government-approved" email that was hacked. She didn't lie about her 
emails, and she didn't try to destroy evidence.
 

 She abandoned diplomats in Libya to die and then blamed a video for their 
deaths.
 

 Two more lies.
 

 Set off the greatest mass migration of refugees the world has seen, flooding 
Europe with millions of displaced people.Approved the sale of 1/5 of our 
countries uranium to Russia for a *donation* to the Clinton Foundation.
 

 And another one.
 

 Used money for Haitian earthquake victims for friends of Bill. Pay for play.
 

 And another one.
 

 Lies through her teeth.
 

 And ANOTHER one.
 

 How the F can you believe a word she says? Takes tens of, if not hundreds of 
millions in donations from countries seeking favors, countries that treat their 
women like shit and murder their gay population.
 

 And the Clinton Foundation does all kinds of good with that money.
 

 Wants to open our borders and send our jobs overseas.
 

 Two more lies.
 

 This post is a great example of the Karl Rove tactic of accusing the person 
you oppose of your own misdeeds. Discharge a blizzard of lies about Clinton, 
and finish up by calling *her* a liar.
 

 

 But hey! She'll be the first woman to be president! That must count for 
something!


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   And who told you that? The media?
 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Much of the media is against Trump because he is a terrible candidate -- the 
worst the GOP has put forward in living memory. Of course the media is using 
its influence to persuade people not to vote for him. Nothing illegitimate or 
sinister about that.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yes they have.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 

 

 

 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 





 


 













 














 













 


 














Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Come on, Mikey.  Step up to the plate here.  I asked you, first.   Scared?  Why 
do you think Trump is qualified?
 

 Here is commentary from Brittany Pounder— a Republican, evangelical Christian, 
Conservative, Hillary-hating woman who is fully disgusted watching so many of 
her spineless counterparts in action.  At least she is honest and is struggling 
with her conscience.  Not you, though, right?  Your neural pathways are set.
 

 "I get refusals from Christian fathers to respond when I ask if they were 
willing to sacrifice the “crotches of their daughters” to save the country from 
Hillary.  They respond with venomous attacks because their answer will either 
make them look like a hypocrite or a reprobate."  

 

 Trump And The Apostate Church: The Destruction Of A Testimony 
http://www.libertyjuice.com/2016/10/10/trump-and-the-apostate-church-the-destruction-of-a-testimony/
 
 
 
http://www.libertyjuice.com/2016/10/10/trump-and-the-apostate-church-the-destruction-of-a-testimony/
 
 
 Trump And The Apostate Church: The Destruction Of... 
http://www.libertyjuice.com/2016/10/10/trump-and-the-apostate-church-the-destruction-of-a-testimony/
 I know this post will generate a lot of mail that I don’t necessarily feel 
like dealing with.   But there are those moments that are so compelling to 
one’s heart th...
 
 
 
 View on www.libertyjuice.com 
http://www.libertyjuice.com/2016/10/10/trump-and-the-apostate-church-the-destruction-of-a-testimony/
 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
   
   
 "Yes, conservatives consider Hillary the bottom of the barrel in regards to 
politics…and she certainly is.  But there’s always the corner of the gutter 
where the bacterial parasites live and that’s exactly where Trump resides.

 

 Trump, the man who mocked Reagan as a con man, lauded the right to partial 
birth abortion, praised tax increases, said Hillary should lead negotiations 
with Iran, openly supports committing war crimes, brags of his adulterous 
affairs, mocks the handicap, among other egregious issues, is just as much, if 
not more, of a gutter bug than both Hillary and Bill. "
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 And what are your candidates qualifications? Thirty years in *public service,* 
serving herself and has accomplished zip for the country.
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 3:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   Mikey, stop being such a whiner and support your candidate.  Now, what do 
you think his qualifications are again?  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 And who told you that? The media?
 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Much of the media is against Trump because he is a terrible candidate -- the 
worst the GOP has put forward in living memory. Of course the media is using 
its influence to persuade people not to vote for him. Nothing illegitimate or 
sinister about that. He is simply unqualified for the office, in any area you 
care to name. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yes they have.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 

 

 

 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 





 


 













 














 















 


 













 
  



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 The "delusionals" live in their own dream world.  Interesting to see such mass 
hypnosis.
 

 Yes, a lot of people are wondering how Trump has managed to hypnotize so many 
people into thinking he's presidential material.
 

 

 

 On 10/16/2016 10:27 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   New York Times, July.
 
 
 

 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:authfriend@...[FairfieldLife] 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<mdixon.6569@...> mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :
 
 Yes they have.
 
 

 No, they haven't.
 

 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<mdixon.6569@...> mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :
 
 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 
 

 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@...> mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :
 
 
 






 
 













 
 












 
 







 
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 And Hillary can't be trusted with national secrets. The whole world knows them 
now.
 

 ??? Documentation, please. What "national secrets"?
 

 Since that's all you could come up with, I'll assume you acknowledge I'm right 
about everything I said below, and that your claim about the media is silly 
flapdoodle.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   A couple additional thoughts:
 

 Are all the extremely conservative big-city newspapers that have almost always 
endorsed Republican presidential candidates (some for over a century) but have 
declined to endorse Trump, declaring him unfit for office, conspiring with 
Hillary's campaign?
 

 It's not just the media. I've lost count of the groups of scores of prominent 
or eminent Americans--many of them Republicans---who have signed open letters 
denouncing Trump and, like the newspapers, declaring him unfit for the 
presidency.
 

 And it isn't just his treatment of women. That's actually one of the less 
important objections compared to his ignorance of international affairs, his 
racism, his disregard for the Constitution, his near-constant lying. His 
banana-republic threat to see to it that Hillary is jailed if he's elected 
should all by itself disqualify him from the presidency.
 

 And finally, his attempt to call in question the validity of the 
election--before it's even taken place--is just beyond the pale of acceptable 
behavior by a presidential candidate.
 

 Seems as though you think the media have been "trying to influence the 
election" by reporting all these things. They should have kept quiet about 
them, I guess, and just stuck with dumping on HIllary as they have for decades.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 
 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yes they have.
 
 

 No, they haven't.


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 

 

 

 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 





 


 













 

















 


 














Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 BTW Judy, in July, the New York Times declared it was the duty of the media to 
stop Trump.
 

 You'll have to do better than that. Give me a URL, or a date. Given the way 
you twist things, I'll need to see what the Times actually said.
 

 You also told me earlier last month that Hillary did *not* support open 
borders, Yet Wikileaks revealed E-mails in which she declared to a Brazilian 
bank that she was all for open borders for the western hemisphere.
 

 She didn't mean "open borders" for people to immigrate, sorry. She was talking 
about hemisphere-wide clean energy. Her immigration policy is for increased 
border security, not open borders.
 

 You also told me that Hillary is not a liar but earlier in a post this summer 
you declared that she doesn't lie any more than any other politician. Either 
you don't know what she stands for or you're lying for her. Which is it?
 

 Either you're lying for Trump, or you have a very poor command of English. 
Which is it? A liar is someone who habitually lies; she doesn't.
 
 Yes, the media does conspire with her. They give her veto power over her 
quotes that they want to use and advice about how to help her campaign.
 

 Documentation, please.
 

 How much time has been spent by the media covering the Wikileaks releases?
 

 Oh, lots. The Times has a story almost every day. So does Politico. So does 
WaPo.
 

 Not much because it's bad news for her while they will go to the ends of the 
earth to cover a few women that claim, without proof, to have been *assaulted* 
by Trump and who's stories have been thoroughly discredited.
 

 The media didn't have to go anywhere to find these women; they came out of the 
woodwork of their own accord, enraged, after Trump denied sexually assaulting 
women at the second debate. And *none* of their stories so far has been 
discredited. You keep telling this lie over and over.
 

 How many interviews have they done of Clinton's victims?
 

 You mean "alleged victims." Back when it was relevant, they were interviewed 
to death. We can just go back and look at what they said back then. There's no 
reason to re-interview them. And in any case, Bill Clinton isn't running for 
president, so they're irrelevant.
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 

 

 

 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 





 


 













 


 












Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hmmm, Republican campaign center in NC gets fire bombed.Cars at a Trump rally 
spray painted and vandalized, attendees at  Trump rallies attacked and beaten.


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 3:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
   
    To repeat:  You're losing touch with reality Mikey.  Stock up your bunker, 
go buy another gun, and get ready for the apocalypse.  And, get that manifesto 
out of your head and on paper.  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Saul Alinsky taught that when you're caught doing something crooked, deny deny 
deny. Then blame your accusers.
Hillary wrote a 92 page thesis, her senior year, about Saul Alinsky who some 
claim was a *community organizer* but was actually a crook and a thug.

  From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 The "delusionals" live in their owndream world.  Interesting to see such mass 
hypnosis.

On 10/16/2016 10:27 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@...[FairfieldLife] wrote:


  New York Times, July.


  From:"authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]"<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent:Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM
Subject:Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,<mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yes theyhave.

No, theyhaven't.

 From:"authfriend@...[FairfieldLife]"<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent:Sunday, October 16, 201610:34 AM
Subject:Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:Which is It?

 


---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com,<mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

WellFeste, it isrigged. Whenthe mediaopenlydeclares it istheir duty tostop him
Theyhaven't donethat.
and they conspire with her campaign,
Theyhaven't donethat either.
asis revealed inthe Wikileakse-mails, theyare no longerobjectivelyreporting 
thenews buttrying toinfluence anelection. Thiswill make itvery difficultfor 
Hillary togovern even ifshe iselected.
Ofcourse it'sgoing to bevery difficultfor Hillary togovern. Butnot becausethe 
media haveconspired withher campaign.It'll be verydifficult forher to 
governbecause ofreflexive GOPresistance andthe spreadingof lies abouther and 
aboutthe media bythe rightwing, as wellas the liesTrump willcontinue tospread 
aboutthe electionbeing "rigged"after she's inthe WhiteHouse.


There will be a resistanceto herpresidencylike has neverbeen seenbefore. 


From:feste37<no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent:Sunday,October 16,2016 9:14 AM
Subject:[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 Eventhough heseems certainto lose, I amstill worried,because he isangry 
andunhinged andcould cause alot of troublebetween nowand ElectionDay, and 
alsoafterwards. Heis openlysaying theelection isrigged, whichis verydangerous. 


---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com,<awoelflebater@...> wrote :













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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Voting *for* someone because of their sex is sexism.


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 3:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
   
    "She'll be the first woman to be president! That must count for something!"
Yes, Mike, it does!  You're making progress.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

He is simply unqualified for the office, in any area you care to name. 


 And Hillary is? She put state secrets at risk. Blames the Russians for her 
E-mails being hacked because she failed to follow the law and use government 
approved E-mail, lied about it and tried to destroy evidence in an 
investigation. She abandoned diplomats in Libya to die and then blamed a video 
for their deaths. Set off the greatest mass migration of refugees the world has 
seen, flooding Europe with millions of displaced people.Approved the sale of 
1/5 of our countries uranium to Russia for a *donation* to the Clinton 
Foundation. Used money for Haitian earthquake victims for friends of Bill. Pay 
for play. Lies through her teeth. How the F can you believe a word she says? 
Takes tens of, if not hundreds of millions in donations from countries seeking 
favors, countries that treat their women like shit and murder their gay 
population. Wants to open our borders and send our jobs overseas. But hey! 
She'll be the first woman to be president! That must count for something!
  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 And who told you that? The media?


   From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 Much of the media is against Trump because he is a terrible candidate -- the 
worst the GOP has put forward in living memory. Of course the media is using 
its influence to persuade people not to vote for him. Nothing illegitimate or 
sinister about that.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yes they have.


  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
They haven't done that.
and they conspire with her campaign,
They haven't done that either.
as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.


There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry 
and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and 
also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very 
dangerous. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :










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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
And what are your candidates qualifications? Thirty years in *public service,* 
serving herself and has accomplished zip for the country.


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 3:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
   
    Mikey, stop being such a whiner and support your candidate.  Now, what do 
you think his qualifications are again?  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

And who told you that? The media?


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 Much of the media is against Trump because he is a terrible candidate -- the 
worst the GOP has put forward in living memory. Of course the media is using 
its influence to persuade people not to vote for him. Nothing illegitimate or 
sinister about that. He is simply unqualified for the office, in any area you 
care to name. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yes they have.


  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
They haven't done that.
and they conspire with her campaign,
They haven't done that either.
as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.


There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry 
and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and 
also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very 
dangerous. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
If I'm *losing touch* with reality, at least I've known it.You're voting for a 
crook, that makes Nixon look like a saint, because she's a *woman*. Now that's 
living in an alternate universe.


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 3:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
   
    
‘SNL’ parodied the second presidential debate and it will briefly make you 
enjoy this nightmarish election 
||
||||   ‘SNL’ parodied the second presidential debate and it 
wi...  It’s safe to say that the second presidential debate was weird, 
uncomfortable, and almost a spoof of itself. The town hall style…||
|  View on www.yahoo.com  |Preview by Yahoo|
||

 
You're losing touch with reality Mikey.  Stock up your bunker, go buy another 
gun, and get ready for the apocalypse.  And, get that manifesto out of your 
head and on paper.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

H, maybe she'll be *deleted*.


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 1:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 What do you think is the root of prejudice?  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :


By the misogynists, sexists and racists (both genders).  This country should 
afford the best in security for her
You left out *homophobes.*
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 Re: "There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen 
before. ".  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him and they conspire with her campaign, as is revealed in the Wikileaks 
e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the news but trying to 
influence an election. This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern 
even if she is elected. There will be a resistance to her presidency like has 
never been seen before. 


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry 
and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and 
also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very 
dangerous. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Mikey, stop being such a whiner and support your candidate.  Now, what do you 
think his qualifications are again?  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 And who told you that? The media?
 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   Much of the media is against Trump because he is a terrible candidate -- the 
worst the GOP has put forward in living memory. Of course the media is using 
its influence to persuade people not to vote for him. Nothing illegitimate or 
sinister about that. He is simply unqualified for the office, in any area you 
care to name. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yes they have.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 

 

 

 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 





 


 













 














 


 












Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
To repeat:  You're losing touch with reality Mikey.  Stock up your bunker, go 
buy another gun, and get ready for the apocalypse.  And, get that manifesto out 
of your head and on paper.   

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Saul Alinsky taught that when you're caught doing something crooked, deny deny 
deny. Then blame your accusers.
 Hillary wrote a 92 page thesis, her senior year, about Saul Alinsky who some 
claim was a *community organizer* but was actually a crook and a thug.
 


 From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   
 The "delusionals" live in their own dream world.  Interesting to see such mass 
hypnosis.
 
 On 10/16/2016 10:27 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   New York Times, July.
 
 
 

 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:authfriend@...[FairfieldLife] 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<mdixon.6569@...> mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :
 
 Yes they have.
 
 

 No, they haven't.
 

 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<mdixon.6569@...> mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :
 
 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 
 

 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@...> mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :
 
 
 






 
 













 
 












 
 








 

 


 















Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
"She'll be the first woman to be president! That must count for something!"
 

 Yes, Mike, it does!  You're making progress.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 He is simply unqualified for the office, in any area you care to name. 


 
  And Hillary is? She put state secrets at risk. Blames the Russians for her 
E-mails being hacked because she failed to follow the law and use government 
approved E-mail, lied about it and tried to destroy evidence in an 
investigation. She abandoned diplomats in Libya to die and then blamed a video 
for their deaths. Set off the greatest mass migration of refugees the world has 
seen, flooding Europe with millions of displaced people.Approved the sale of 
1/5 of our countries uranium to Russia for a *donation* to the Clinton 
Foundation. Used money for Haitian earthquake victims for friends of Bill. Pay 
for play. Lies through her teeth. How the F can you believe a word she says? 
Takes tens of, if not hundreds of millions in donations from countries seeking 
favors, countries that treat their women like shit and murder their gay 
population. Wants to open our borders and send our jobs overseas. But hey! 
She'll be the first woman to be president! That must count for something!


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   And who told you that? The media?
 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Much of the media is against Trump because he is a terrible candidate -- the 
worst the GOP has put forward in living memory. Of course the media is using 
its influence to persuade people not to vote for him. Nothing illegitimate or 
sinister about that.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yes they have.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 

 

 

 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 





 


 













 














 













 


 















Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Saul Alinsky taught that when you're caught doing something crooked, deny deny 
deny. Then blame your accusers.
Hillary wrote a 92 page thesis, her senior year, about Saul Alinsky who some 
claim was a *community organizer* but was actually a crook and a thug.

  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
   
 The "delusionals" live in their own dream world.  Interesting to see such 
mass hypnosis.
 
 On 10/16/2016 10:27 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
    New York Times, July.
  
 
From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
  
    
  
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
 
  Yes they have.
  
  No, they haven't.
 
   From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
  
   
  
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,<mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
 
  Well Feste, it is rigged. When  the media openly declares it is  their duty 
to stop him 
  They haven't done that. 
  and they conspire with her campaign, 
  They haven't done that either. 
  as is revealed in the Wikileaks  e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but  trying to influence an election. This  will make it 
very difficult  for Hillary to govern even if she is  elected. 
  Of course it's going to be  very difficult for Hillary to govern. But  not 
because the media have  conspired with her campaign. It'll be very  difficult 
for her to govern  because of reflexive GOP resistance and  the spreading of 
lies about  her and about the media by the right  wing, as well as the lies  
Trump will continue to spread about  the election being "rigged"  after she's 
in the White House. 
  
  
  There will be a resistance to her presidency  like has never been seen 
before. 

 
   From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16,  2016 9:14 AM
 Subject:[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
  
   Even though he seems certain  to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and  could cause a lot of trouble between now  and Election 
Day, and also  afterwards. He is openly saying the  election is rigged, which  
is very dangerous. 
   
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,<awoelflebater@...> wrote :
 
  

 
  
 
 
 

 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


‘SNL’ parodied the second presidential debate and it will briefly make you 
enjoy this nightmarish election 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/snl-parodied-second-presidential-debate-193243530.html
 
 
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/snl-parodied-second-presidential-debate-193243530.html
 
 
 ‘SNL’ parodied the second presidential debate and it wi... 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/snl-parodied-second-presidential-debate-193243530.html
 It’s safe to say that the second presidential debate was weird, uncomfortable, 
and almost a spoof of itself. The town hall style…
 
 
 
 View on www.yahoo.com 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/snl-parodied-second-presidential-debate-193243530.html
 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 

 You're losing touch with reality Mikey.  Stock up your bunker, go buy another 
gun, and get ready for the apocalypse.  And, get that manifesto out of your 
head and on paper.  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 H, maybe she'll be *deleted*.
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 1:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   What do you think is the root of prejudice?  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 
 

By the misogynists, sexists and racists (both genders).  This country should 
afford the best in security for her 
You left out *homophobes.*

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Re: "There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen 
before. "
.   
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him and they conspire with her campaign, as is revealed in the Wikileaks 
e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the news but trying to 
influence an election. This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern 
even if she is elected. There will be a resistance to her presidency like has 
never been seen before. 
 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 





 


 















 


 













 


 












Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
 He is simply unqualified for the office, in any area you care to name. 


 And Hillary is? She put state secrets at risk. Blames the Russians for her 
E-mails being hacked because she failed to follow the law and use government 
approved E-mail, lied about it and tried to destroy evidence in an 
investigation. She abandoned diplomats in Libya to die and then blamed a video 
for their deaths. Set off the greatest mass migration of refugees the world has 
seen, flooding Europe with millions of displaced people.Approved the sale of 
1/5 of our countries uranium to Russia for a *donation* to the Clinton 
Foundation. Used money for Haitian earthquake victims for friends of Bill. Pay 
for play. Lies through her teeth. How the F can you believe a word she says? 
Takes tens of, if not hundreds of millions in donations from countries seeking 
favors, countries that treat their women like shit and murder their gay 
population. Wants to open our borders and send our jobs overseas. But hey! 
She'll be the first woman to be president! That must count for something!
  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
   
    And who told you that? The media?


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
  
    Much of the media is against Trump because he is a terrible candidate -- 
the worst the GOP has put forward in living memory. Of course the media is 
using its influence to persuade people not to vote for him. Nothing 
illegitimate or sinister about that.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yes they have.


  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
They haven't done that.
and they conspire with her campaign,
They haven't done that either.
as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.


There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry 
and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and 
also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very 
dangerous. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :






  

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
The "delusionals" live in their own dream world.  Interesting to see 
such mass hypnosis.


On 10/16/2016 10:27 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

New York Times, July.



*From:* "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yes they have.

No, they haven't.


*From:* "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their 
duty to stop him


They haven't done that.

and they conspire with her campaign,

They haven't done that either.

as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer 
objectively reporting the news but trying to influence an election. 
This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is 
elected.


Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But 
not because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very 
difficult for her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and 
the spreading of lies about her and about the media by the right wing, 
as well as the lies Trump will continue to spread about the election 
being "rigged" after she's in the White House.




There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen 
before.




*From:* feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he 
is angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and 
Election Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is 
rigged, which is very dangerous.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

alt











Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

On 10/16/2016 10:46 AM, feste37 wrote:


Much of the media is against Trump because he is a terrible candidate 
-- the worst the GOP has put forward in living memory. Of course the 
media is using its influence to persuade people not to vote for him. 
Nothing illegitimate or sinister about that.




Because his people want to see mainstream media broken up and he might 
do that.  That I'd applaud along with breaking up the big banks.  
There's nothing too big to fail.  These used to be things "libruls" were 
for.  What happened?



He is simply unqualified for the office, in any area you care to name.



You mean George W Bush was qualified?  Got two terms.

Being President is a salesman's job.  Trump is a salesman.  Not voting 
for him and would have preferred Sanders.  And not voting for the crazy 
woman either.


BTW, if she bails on the last debate it will be over for her.  All Trump 
has to do is remind the public of that old saw "quitters never win."  I 
think she's already lost by a landslide.


The polls don't count though both sides try to imply they do because 
more and more folks who still have landlines have NoMoRobo and the 
younger folks don't have landlines.





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yes they have.



*From:* "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their 
duty to stop him


They haven't done that.

and they conspire with her campaign,

They haven't done that either.

as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer 
objectively reporting the news but trying to influence an election. 
This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is 
elected.


Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But 
not because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very 
difficult for her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and 
the spreading of lies abo! ut her and about the media by the right 
wing, as well as the lies Trump will continue to spread about the 
election being "rigged" after she's in the White House.




There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen 
before.




*From:* feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he 
is angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and 
Election Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is 
rigged, which is very dangerous.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

alt









Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
And who told you that? The media?


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
   
    Much of the media is against Trump because he is a terrible candidate -- 
the worst the GOP has put forward in living memory. Of course the media is 
using its influence to persuade people not to vote for him. Nothing 
illegitimate or sinister about that. He is simply unqualified for the office, 
in any area you care to name. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yes they have.


  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
They haven't done that.
and they conspire with her campaign,
They haven't done that either.
as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.


There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry 
and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and 
also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very 
dangerous. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
H, maybe she'll be *deleted*.


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 1:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
   
    What do you think is the root of prejudice?  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :


By the misogynists, sexists and racists (both genders).  This country should 
afford the best in security for her
You left out *homophobes.*
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 Re: "There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen 
before. ".  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him and they conspire with her campaign, as is revealed in the Wikileaks 
e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the news but trying to 
influence an election. This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern 
even if she is elected. There will be a resistance to her presidency like has 
never been seen before. 


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry 
and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and 
also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very 
dangerous. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
What do you think is the root of prejudice?  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 
 

By the misogynists, sexists and racists (both genders).  This country should 
afford the best in security for her 
You left out *homophobes.*

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   Re: "There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen 
before. "
.   
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him and they conspire with her campaign, as is revealed in the Wikileaks 
e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the news but trying to 
influence an election. This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern 
even if she is elected. There will be a resistance to her presidency like has 
never been seen before. 
 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 





 


 















 


 














Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread feste37
Much of the media is against Trump because he is a terrible candidate -- the 
worst the GOP has put forward in living memory. Of course the media is using 
its influence to persuade people not to vote for him. Nothing illegitimate or 
sinister about that. He is simply unqualified for the office, in any area you 
care to name. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yes they have.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 

 

 

 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 





 


 













 


 












Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
And Hillary can't be trusted with national secrets. The whole world knows them 
now.


  From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
   
    A couple additional thoughts:
Are all the extremely conservative big-city newspapers that have almost always 
endorsed Republican presidential candidates (some for over a century) but have 
declined to endorse Trump, declaring him unfit for office, conspiring with 
Hillary's campaign?
It's not just the media. I've lost count of the groups of scores of prominent 
or eminent Americans--many of them Republicans---who have signed open letters 
denouncing Trump and, like the newspapers, declaring him unfit for the 
presidency.
And it isn't just his treatment of women. That's actually one of the less 
important objections compared to his ignorance of international affairs, his 
racism, his disregard for the Constitution, his near-constant lying. His 
banana-republic threat to see to it that Hillary is jailed if he's elected 
should all by itself disqualify him from the presidency.
And finally, his attempt to call in question the validity of the 
election--before it's even taken place--is just beyond the pale of acceptable 
behavior by a presidential candidate.
Seems as though you think the media have been "trying to influence the 
election" by reporting all these things. They should have kept quiet about 
them, I guess, and just stuck with dumping on HIllary as they have for decades.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yes they have.

No, they haven't.

  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
They haven't done that.
and they conspire with her campaign,
They haven't done that either.
as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.


There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry 
and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and 
also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very 
dangerous. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

By the misogynists, sexists and racists (both genders).  This country should 
afford the best in security for her
You left out *homophobes.*
  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
   
    Re: "There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen 
before. ".  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him and they conspire with her campaign, as is revealed in the Wikileaks 
e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the news but trying to 
influence an election. This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern 
even if she is elected. There will be a resistance to her presidency like has 
never been seen before. 


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry 
and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and 
also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very 
dangerous. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
New York Times, July.


  From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yes they have.

No, they haven't.

  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
They haven't done that.
and they conspire with her campaign,
They haven't done that either.
as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.


There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry 
and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and 
also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very 
dangerous. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
BTW Judy, in July, the New York Times declared it was the duty of the media to 
stop Trump. You also told me earlier last month that Hillary did *not* support 
open borders, Yet Wikileaks revealed E-mails in which she declared to a 
Brazilian bank that she was all for open borders for the western hemisphere. 
You also told me that Hillary is not a liar but earlier in a post this summer 
you declared that she doesn't lie any more than any other politician. Either 
you don't know what she stands for or you're lying for her. Which is it?
Yes, the media does conspire with her. They give her veto power over her quotes 
that they want to use and advice about how to help her campaign. How much time 
has been spent by the media covering the Wikileaks releases? Not much because 
it's bad news for her while they will go to the ends of the earth to cover a 
few women that claim, without proof, to have been *assaulted* by Trump and 
who's stories have been thoroughly discredited. How many interviews have they 
done of Clinton's victims?

  From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
They haven't done that.
and they conspire with her campaign,
They haven't done that either.
as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.


There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry 
and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and 
also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very 
dangerous. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
A couple additional thoughts: 

 Are all the extremely conservative big-city newspapers that have almost always 
endorsed Republican presidential candidates (some for over a century) but have 
declined to endorse Trump, declaring him unfit for office, conspiring with 
Hillary's campaign?
 

 It's not just the media. I've lost count of the groups of scores of prominent 
or eminent Americans--many of them Republicans---who have signed open letters 
denouncing Trump and, like the newspapers, declaring him unfit for the 
presidency.
 

 And it isn't just his treatment of women. That's actually one of the less 
important objections compared to his ignorance of international affairs, his 
racism, his disregard for the Constitution, his near-constant lying. His 
banana-republic threat to see to it that Hillary is jailed if he's elected 
should all by itself disqualify him from the presidency.
 

 And finally, his attempt to call in question the validity of the 
election--before it's even taken place--is just beyond the pale of acceptable 
behavior by a presidential candidate.
 

 Seems as though you think the media have been "trying to influence the 
election" by reporting all these things. They should have kept quiet about 
them, I guess, and just stuck with dumping on HIllary as they have for decades.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 
 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yes they have.
 
 

 No, they haven't.


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 

 

 

 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 





 


 













 


 














Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

On 10/16/2016 08:48 AM, emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Re: "There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been 
seen before. "



By the misogynists, sexists and racists (both genders).  This country 
should afford the best in security for her.


What about those who disdain a corporate global agenda or wars of empire 
and corporate gain?  Have you forgotten your liberal principles?  You 
made it sound like we're anointing a queen not electing a president.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their 
duty to stop him and they conspire with her campaign, as is revealed 
in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the 
news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected. There will be 
a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before.




*From:* feste37 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he 
is angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and 
Election Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is 
rigged, which is very dangerous.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

alt







Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

On 10/16/2016 08:40 AM, feste37 wrote:


Thanks, auth, for saying it better than I could.

Mike, If much of the media prefers another candidate to Trump, that is 
not "rigging" the election. It's part of a free debate and exchange of 
ideas (which Trump is losing badly).




Feste, were you born yesterday?  Try following the money for a change.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their 
duty to stop him


They haven't done that.

and they conspire with her campaign,

They haven't done that either.

as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer 
objectively reporting the news but trying to influence an election. 
This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is 
elected.


Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But 
not because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very 
difficult for her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and 
the spreading of lies about her and about the media by the right wing, 
as well as the lies Trump will continue to spread about the election 
being "rigged" after she's in the White House.




There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen 
before.




*From:* feste37 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?!

Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he 
is angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and 
Election Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is 
rigged, which is very dangerous.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

alt







Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re: "There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen 
before. " 

 By the misogynists, sexists and racists (both genders).  This country should 
afford the best in security for her.  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him and they conspire with her campaign, as is revealed in the Wikileaks 
e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the news but trying to 
influence an election. This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern 
even if she is elected. There will be a resistance to her presidency like has 
never been seen before. 
 
 


 From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 





 


 















Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yes they have.
 
 

 No, they haven't.


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 

 

 

 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 





 


 













 


 












Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes they have.


  From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
They haven't done that.
and they conspire with her campaign,
They haven't done that either.
as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.


There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry 
and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and 
also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very 
dangerous. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread feste37
Thanks, auth, for saying it better than I could. 

Mike, If much of the media prefers another candidate to Trump, that is not 
"rigging" the election. It's part of a free debate and exchange of ideas (which 
Trump is losing badly). 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 

 

 

 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 


 From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 





 


 
















Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 

 

 

 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 


 From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 





 


 














Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him and they conspire with her campaign, as is revealed in the Wikileaks 
e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the news but trying to 
influence an election. This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern 
even if she is elected. There will be a resistance to her presidency like has 
never been seen before. 


  From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
   
    Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-20 Thread Ravi Chivukula
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 5:01 AM, curtisdeltablues 
curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
 
  Just for starters...

 And what a start it was. That old nuance thing...

 You really can't discern the difference here? I know they share some of
 the same characteristics but you really can't see the critical significant
 difference?

 Hint: in one case the violence is imagined about himself to make it look
 like he is being hurt violently by what was said personally.

 In the other it is a vivid image of what trolls do when not posting here.

 But don't sweat it, Ravi also lacks the emotional intelligence to sort
 this out either, but then English is his second language and you are
 supposed to be an editor so...

 Now run along and sift through dozens of posts to find things that sound
 like what I said at the most superficial level, fly away little starling,
 fly fly fly fly fly.


English is your first language and you still can't get it right Curtis baby
- are you an idiot or just being dishonest - your record here on FFL
unambiguously points to the latter.

You seem to have started throwing the EI label around lately - are you
getting desperate baby? Look no further than your pal Barry and yourself
for examples of low EI.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-19 Thread Ravi Chivukula
LOL..the second one is extremely dramatic..troll revelers, intoxicated
with their sturdy goblets of human baby blood..OMG, really cracking me up
with its vivid, violent imagery. Curtis baby - what a melodramatic drama
queen you are !!!

On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:34 PM, authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **


 Just for starters...


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@... wrote:
 snip
 [quoting Robin from last week]

  R: I did get what you meant. It was a just rebuke--as gently
  administered as it was. But one gash is enough--I have lost
  enough blood in all our battles, Curtis--one last wound:
  somehow this seems fitting to me.
 
  M:
  Putting the violent metaphor spin aside, (Have you noticed your
  consistent characterization of any feedback you don't like in
  this over dramatic way?)

 Curtis, back in September, after receiving some feedback
 he didn't like:

 To raunchydog:
Does the word brutally' make you think of blood, how it
smells? The warmth on your tongue, before it clots with
its delicious mineral taste, somewhere between liver and
raw steak.

 To Robin:
The fact that it might bug me to have my name signed to
a post that makes me out to be an effete drama teacher
who revels in fey triumphalist statements went over the
heads of the troll revelers, intoxicated with their
sturdy goblets of human baby blood as they danced around
the flickering flames of having taunted someone online
and gotten him to respond.

  



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno

2012-12-18 Thread Share Long
thanks, Xeno.  Personally I don't think it's politically correct to label 
someone politically incorrect (-:





 From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 2:59 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno
 

  
[wikipedia]:

'Imbecile was a medical category of people with moderate to severe mental 
retardation, as well as a type of criminal. The term arises from the Latin word 
imbecillus, meaning weak, or weak-minded. It included people with an IQ of 
26–50, between moron (IQ of 51–70) and idiot (IQ of 0–25).'

'The meaning was further refined into mental and moral imbecility. The concepts 
of moral insanity, moral idiocy, and moral imbecility, led to the 
emerging field of eugenic criminology, which held that crime can be reduced by 
preventing feeble-minded people from reproducing.'

'The concept is closely associated with psychology, psychiatry, criminology, 
and eugenics. However, the term imbecile quickly passed into vernacular usage 
as a derogatory term, and fell out of professional use in the 20th century in 
favor of mental retardation.'

'In recent decades, the phrases mental retardation, mentally retarded, and 
retarded have similarly come to be viewed as derogatory terms and their usage 
now is considered to be politically incorrect much like the words moron, 
imbecile, and idiot, formerly used as scientific terms in the early 20th 
century, also came to be viewed as derogatory. On October 5, 2010, President 
Barack Obama signed Senate Bill 2781, known as Rosa's Law, which changed 
references in many Federal statutes that referred to mental retardation to 
refer instead to intellectual disability.'

So all you disabie retards, what more idiotic, moronic, imbecilic behaviour can 
we expect here? In view that these now medically disused terms reffered to IQs 
70 or lower, no one here on FFL probably falls into any of these categories, 
though certainly there are times when maybe we wish a wee bit some particular 
person, as the result of some particular post or posts, would thereby fall in 
line with one of these categories.


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno

2012-12-17 Thread Share Long
Ok, sorry, thanks for explaining.





 From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:34 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Xeno you've chosen to snip the rest of my post which explains what I meant.  
 Just to be more clear, I was writing of course about something Emily 
 attributed to me yesterday.
 Which philosophy is your question and snipping an expression of?

I think you misunderstood the intent of my short post.

1. You said 'I don't even THINK the word imbecile'

But of course you have to think a word to write it, especially in some kind of 
context.

2. 'let alone express it.'

To write it and to post it you also have to express it in some manner even if 
you do not intend to use the word directed at someone, which is how the word is 
typically used. And you must also know something of what the word means, and 
suppose that others also know what it means, otherwise posting it would require 
you to define it so you would be understood. This is not a serious post by me. 
I have been lightly touching in on FFL - its nice to be away - and did not feel 
like some serious discussion. So, I was not even bringing up the subject of 
whatever the discussion was, which was why it was snipped. I do believe I know 
what you intended by the remark, but I was having fun with it. Do not take me 
seriously here. Your situation with Emily was not in my mind at all. I don't 
even know what it is/was.

 
  From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 9:19 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
 stooopid
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
 
  dear FFL, just to set the record straight:  I don't even THINK the word 
  imbecile much less express it.
 
 And so, Share, how did you manage to write the above passage? In case you 
 think this is a criticism, this is a philosophical question.



 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno

2012-12-17 Thread Ravi Chivukula
We have gone way past a simple sorry Share. You need to take 2 healing
sessions and one session with your pastoral counselor within the next week,
the first healing session must take place within the next 48 hours. At
least one of them should be John Newton approved. Please scan all receipts
and proof of attendance and upload it to the files section.  I appoint LG,
Oxcart and myself to review these, once approved your apologies will be
accepted. Thanks Share.

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Ok, sorry, thanks for explaining.


   --
 *From:* Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com
 *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:34 PM
 *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or
 reeely to Xeno


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:
 
  Xeno you've chosen to snip the rest of my post which explains what I
 meant.  Just to be more clear, I was writing of course about something
 Emily attributed to me yesterday.
  Which philosophy is your question and snipping an expression of?

 I think you misunderstood the intent of my short post.

 1. You said 'I don't even THINK the word imbecile'

 But of course you have to think a word to write it, especially in some
 kind of context.

 2. 'let alone express it.'

 To write it and to post it you also have to express it in some manner even
 if you do not intend to use the word directed at someone, which is how the
 word is typically used. And you must also know something of what the word
 means, and suppose that others also know what it means, otherwise posting
 it would require you to define it so you would be understood. This is not a
 serious post by me. I have been lightly touching in on FFL - its nice to be
 away - and did not feel like some serious discussion. So, I was not even
 bringing up the subject of whatever the discussion was, which was why it
 was snipped. I do believe I know what you intended by the remark, but I was
 having fun with it. Do not take me seriously here. Your situation with
 Emily was not in my mind at all. I don't even know what it is/was.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-17 Thread Emily Reyn
Thanks Judy.  I've been misusing the words than and then - and that's 
pretty obvious a difference.  




 From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:56 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
stooopid
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... 
wrote:

 On Dec 16, 2012, at 3:43 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ 
  wrote:
  
   CORRECTION: Stay away from the innocent purity of Ann's
   husband  I
  
  You had the pronoun (me) right the first time, my friend.
 
 Damn I thought I had the formula on the usage of me vs I
 nailed -  oh well, you got me there :-)

Lots of native English speakers get it wrong too. I only
mentioned it because you called it a correction, so I
figured you really wanted it to be right.

If the pronoun is part of a prepositional phrase, it has
to be me. You wouldn't say the innocent purity of I.

   you creepy, evil Sorcerer from Iowa.
   
   On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@wrote:
   
Stay away from me and Ann's hubby - you creepy, evil
Sorcerer from Iowa.


 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno

2012-12-17 Thread Emily Reyn
One doesn't apologize when there is nothing to apologize for, which is always 
the case when one is always right. 




 From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
to Xeno
 

  
We have gone way past a simple sorry Share. You need to take 2 healing 
sessions and one session with your pastoral counselor within the next week, 
the first healing session must take place within the next 48 hours. At least 
one of them should be John Newton approved. Please scan all receipts and proof 
of attendance and upload it to the files section.  I appoint LG, Oxcart and 
myself to review these, once approved your apologies will be accepted. Thanks 
Share.


On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:

Ok, sorry, thanks for explaining.







 From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:34 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to 
Xeno
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Xeno you've chosen to snip the rest of my post which explains what I 
 meant.  Just to be more clear, I was writing of course about something 
 Emily attributed to me yesterday.
 Which philosophy is your question and snipping an expression of?

I think you misunderstood the intent of my short post.

1. You said 'I don't even THINK the word imbecile'

But of course you have to think a word to write it, especially in some kind 
of context.

2. 'let alone express it.'

To write it and to post it you also have to express it in some manner even if 
you do not intend to use the word directed at someone, which is how the word 
is typically used. And you must also know something of what the word means, 
and suppose that others also know what it means, otherwise posting it would 
require you to define it so you would be understood. This is not a serious 
post by me. I have been lightly touching in on FFL - its nice to be away - 
and did not feel like some serious discussion. So, I was not even bringing up 
the subject of whatever the discussion was, which was why it was snipped. I 
do believe I know what you intended by the remark, but I was having fun with 
it. Do not take me seriously here. Your situation with Emily was not in my 
mind at all. I don't even know what it is/was.

 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno

2012-12-17 Thread Emily Reyn
The apology below was a simple acknowledgement of something that didn't really 
matter (she was right; he deleted the meaning of that email).  Apologies don't 
mean anything they don't cost you anything.




 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
to Xeno
 

One doesn't apologize when there is nothing to apologize for, which is always 
the case when one is always right. 




 From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
to Xeno
 

  
We have gone way past a simple sorry Share. You need to take 2 healing 
sessions and one session with your pastoral counselor within the next week, 
the first healing session must take place within the next 48 hours. At least 
one of them should be John Newton approved. Please scan all receipts and 
proof of attendance and upload it to the files section.  I appoint LG, Oxcart 
and myself to review these, once approved your apologies will be accepted. 
Thanks Share.


On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:

Ok, sorry, thanks for explaining.







 From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:34 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to 
Xeno
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Xeno you've chosen to snip the rest of my post which explains what I 
 meant.  Just to be more clear, I was writing of course about something 
 Emily attributed to me yesterday.
 Which philosophy is your question and snipping an expression of?

I think you misunderstood the intent of my short post.

1. You said 'I don't even THINK the word imbecile'

But of course you have to think a word to write it, especially in some kind 
of context.

2. 'let alone express it.'

To write it and to post it you also have to express it in some manner even 
if you do not intend to use the word directed at someone, which is how the 
word is typically used. And you must also know something of what the word 
means, and suppose that others also know what it means, otherwise posting it 
would require you to define it so you would be understood. This is not a 
serious post by me. I have been lightly touching in on FFL - its nice to be 
away - and did not feel like some serious discussion. So, I was not even 
bringing up the subject of whatever the discussion was, which was why it was 
snipped. I do believe I know what you intended by the remark, but I was 
having fun with it. Do not take me seriously here. Your situation with Emily 
was not in my mind at all. I don't even know what it is/was.

 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-17 Thread Emily Reyn
The phrase you complete me comes to mind.  




 From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 1:17 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
stooopid
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote:

 If I were a man I would want to be me.
 
 Ann likes the person that she is. Her femaleness does not deprive her of the 
 imagination to conceive of herself as a man--and yet in thinking of what 
 kind of man she would like to be, she realizes she possesses the specific 
 attributes which, for her, would be almost ideal in having to be a man. 
 There is no limitation imposed upon herself as a woman; but there is the 
 recognition *as a person* she encompasses--or could encompass, based upon 
 her personal ingredients--the form of herself imagined as a man.
 
 It is also a kind of private in-joke between Ann and all those who know her: 
 Ann has a large enough personality to make it an unnatural act to 
 defer--just based on her femininity--to any man. Ann holds within her 
 person, then, the possibility of transmuting what she is, into the form of a 
 man--which says what a powerful woman she is--and yet how her very person 
 would constitute the basis for being a man she would respect and love.
 
 She can see herself as being a beautiful man.
 
 Now, that's some woman.

Thank you for this, very kind words indeed. I would say that the sense I have 
always had of myself has transcended gender and has always just been a sense 
of me without the male or female attached to it. But I know that my father 
was a contributing factor in never allowing me to feel in any way less, 
compromised, incapable or undermined by the fact of my female gender. He was a 
very equal opportunity guy who would never have dreamed his daughter was 
handicapped in some way having been born a woman. That definitely rubbed off 
on me growing up. 

And since the subject of husbands has come up it is also interesting to note 
that while I embody aspects of what many people categorize as male my spouse 
is also gifted with some wonderful female qualities. All of these sides of us 
coming together within our relationship is what makes the two of us a whole.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  If I were a man I'd want to be me.
 
 I cannot help but go on the record here and feel
 sorry for Ann's hubby, not for the first time.

Ooh, stinging. I'll bet this will just devastate Ann.

(Actually, I bet she'll show it to her hubby, and he'll
hurt himself laughing. But we can certainly understand
why a woman like Ann would be a nightmare for Barry.)
   
   Please note that Judy carefully snipped the smiley face
   at the end of my post, so that she could exercise her
   usual drama queenery and faux outrage.
  
  As Emily would say, A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
  
  As if the smiley face would make any difference.
  
  Barry's having a *really* hard time coughing up a
  comeback.
  
   What I meant -- and I suspect many people not as 
   committed to turning *everything* into an argument
   as Judy is understood
  
  No, son, I made my point. *You're* trying to turn it
  into an argument.
  
   -- is that I cannot imagine 
   anything more trying than maintaining a relationship 
   with someone (of either sex) whose ideal in the other 
   sex is someone just like them. That's a kind of 
   narcissism that would be tough to cope with.
  
  And of course that isn't what Ann said, nor what she
  meant. What an insane interpretation.
  
   Relationships are all about the *differences* between
   people, not the similarities. Who -- other than Robin 
   and/or people indoctrinated by him -- would ever *want* 
   to be with a clone of themselves? 
  
  Nobody would want that. Including Ann. Read what she
  wrote again, you demented dimwit:
  
  And if Share were a man she wants to be Steve. If I
  were a man I'd want to be me.
  
  Nothing to do with a *relationship*. It's only your
  twisted mind that would make this into, My ideal man
  would be just like me.
  
   I'm just suggesting 
   that, even as a passing aside, Ann's comment was very 
   telling.
  
  What's telling, Barry, is the deterioration of your
  mental faculties exemplified by this post.
  
  And note that you've managed to bust your faux outrage
  about my not quoting your smiley face. You never meant
  your remark to be anything but a nasty putdown of Ann.
  
   Judy's? That just more of her normal nastiness and Yet 
   Another Attempt to 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno

2012-12-17 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Yes dear Emily, the Share Saga has taken a toll on me. My innocence has been 
lost, I'm very cynical about apologies. No longer will I accept anyone's 
apologies at face value, no madam, I will create lot of ruckus. Healers have to 
be involved, pastoral counselors are a must, John Newton's grace is 
indispensable. Proofs will be demanded, an independent jury comprised of wts, 
non-wts members will be convened and everything meticulously examined. I'm sick 
and tired of this bullshit.


On Dec 17, 2012, at 11:11 AM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote:

 One doesn't apologize when there is nothing to apologize for, which is always 
 the case when one is always right. 
 
 From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
 to Xeno
 
  
 We have gone way past a simple sorry Share. You need to take 2 healing 
 sessions and one session with your pastoral counselor within the next week, 
 the first healing session must take place within the next 48 hours. At least 
 one of them should be John Newton approved. Please scan all receipts and 
 proof of attendance and upload it to the files section.  I appoint LG, Oxcart 
 and myself to review these, once approved your apologies will be accepted. 
 Thanks Share.
 
 On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Ok, sorry, thanks for explaining.
 
 
 From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:34 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to 
 Xeno
 
  
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:
 
  Xeno you've chosen to snip the rest of my post which explains what I 
  meant.  Just to be more clear, I was writing of course about something 
  Emily attributed to me yesterday.
  Which philosophy is your question and snipping an expression of?
 
 I think you misunderstood the intent of my short post.
 
 1. You said 'I don't even THINK the word imbecile'
 
 But of course you have to think a word to write it, especially in some kind 
 of context.
 
 2. 'let alone express it.'
 
 To write it and to post it you also have to express it in some manner even if 
 you do not intend to use the word directed at someone, which is how the word 
 is typically used. And you must also know something of what the word means, 
 and suppose that others also know what it means, otherwise posting it would 
 require you to define it so you would be understood. This is not a serious 
 post by me. I have been lightly touching in on FFL - its nice to be away - 
 and did not feel like some serious discussion. So, I was not even bringing up 
 the subject of whatever the discussion was, which was why it was snipped. I 
 do believe I know what you intended by the remark, but I was having fun with 
 it. Do not take me seriously here. Your situation with Emily was not in my 
 mind at all. I don't even know what it is/was.
 
 
 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-17 Thread Ravi Chivukula
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 10:56 AM, authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
 wrote:
 
  On Dec 16, 2012, at 3:43 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:

 
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
 wrote:
   
CORRECTION: Stay away from the innocent purity of Ann's
husband  I
  
   You had the pronoun (me) right the first time, my friend.
 
  Damn I thought I had the formula on the usage of me vs I
  nailed - oh well, you got me there :-)

 Lots of native English speakers get it wrong too. I only
 mentioned it because you called it a correction, so I
 figured you really wanted it to be right.

 If the pronoun is part of a prepositional phrase, it has
 to be me. You wouldn't say the innocent purity of I.


You are right Judy. I forgot to clarify - I only had trouble in the past
with the conjunctions of the personal pronoun. Then I read somewhere the
easy solution for it - breaking apart the conjunction into two separate
sentences. This helps - as you point above, anyway I make too many quick
posts on FFL and don't really bother to check it thoroughly. In this case
my correction was to playfully add the innocent purity of Ann's husband
and me :-)


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid to LG

2012-12-16 Thread Share Long
dear laughingG it's a wonderful transcript, thank you so much for posting.  Of 
course it reminds me of that pesky old tag line about bliss:  that bliss is not 
always blissful, that we have to stir the water in the bath tub for that.  
Maybe stirring the bath water is the specialty of FFL (-:  


May I take this opportunity to say that of course I remember the juicy details 
surrounding the revelation of your age by Richard.  Perhaps those details are 
what inspired me to assign you the role of very cool and popular VICE Principal 
at FFL High.  

Speaking of which, do you know what I found among my pjs?  A top I purchased 
TWO years ago.  Guess what that top has on it.  THREE LITTLE PENGUINS!  One 
with a winter hat pulled over his eyes.  I guess that would be see no evil.  
One wearing ear muffs.  Probably hear no evil.  And one with a winter scarf 
pulled up to cover his mouth.  Maybe that's speak no evil?  Underneath the 
penguins are three words:  
naughty or nice.  I am not making this up (-:

Anyway, I'm taking it as a sign.  Happy Holidays dear laughingVP  And also 
thank you so much for Joy Luck Club post.  I hope I remember it when my Mom is 
badgering me to get my hair cut.  According to her generation, women my age 
really shouldn't have long hair.   



 From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 5:31 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
stooopid
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 dear Steve, if I had to be a man, I'd want to be just like you (-:
 
 Now I'm wondering how you would answer Emily's question: is feeling deeply 
 stress. My understanding from Maharishi's teaching is that stress actually 
 prevents one from feeling deeply. And that as consciousness becomes 
 established, one actually can feel more deeply because one is rooted in that 
 consciousness. But I'm forgetting some crucial distinction. What do you 
 remember? Thank you.

Share, I'm butting in to offer the following transcript of a lecture Maharishi 
gave in 1971:

Maharishi on Intellect and Emotions
1971

MAHARISHI: ...Emotions are finer than the mind, thinking. Even so the intellect 
is the finest aspect of the mind, the emotions just don`t worry about the 
intellect... Emotions are more powerful. It is a good field on which life is 
lived. It is on emotion that life is lived. All intellectual decisions come out 
of emotion. Emotion is the wave of that aspect of life which is called ananda, 
Bliss. Intellect is the impulse of life which is called chit, consciousness. 
Absolute is that state of life – not impulse, but state – Absolute is that 
state of life which is called Sat, that which never changes. Absolute is that 
state of life which knows no change. It is a beautiful thing.

They are all on the same level, but somehow life is more guided by Bliss. The 
whole stream of life, every impulse of activity is guided by Bliss – more and 
more and more, this is what is called evolution. And this more and more makes 
use of the intellect to support it. The intellect always decides in favor of 
more and more and more. The impulse of happiness drags along in its direction 
the intellect.

So intellect serves emotions. Emotions don't mind which way the intellect will 
go – they drag the intellect onto it, by force like that, like that, makes use 
of it. Intellect becomes an instrument to bring fulfillment to emotion.

Emotions are structured in Bliss, just as Knowledge is structured in 
consciousness... Just as the intellect has its range in all the senses of 
perception and also action, so also emotions have their range in all these five 
senses of perception and senses of action. They take in the whole thing.

When we talk of intellect and emotion, even when we talk of mind so crude, all 
these five senses of perception and these five senses of action – generally we 
call them five organs of action – but all are involved with the mind, with the 
intellect, with emotion. One sees a rose and one feels so good and immediately 
the hands go and feet run, nose smells and eye sees – the whole thing blossoms. 
They belong to all of these senses...

...Intellectual thought means decisive thought. And in decisions, emotions are 
deeply involved. When you decide – the force of decision takes in emotion, it 
is very deeply. Decision is never free from the grip of emotion. Decision is 
guided by emotion.

Apparently it may appear that they are guided by logic, but logic is always in 
favor of emotions. Always one steps so many steps, but there is 'the cup of 
tea'. People say 'He is not my cup of tea'. This is more prevalent in England, 
in a more conservative expression. So that 'cup of tea' is very, very 
important. It is all localized in emotion.

Decisions are motivated by emotions. They are so involved with one another, 
that's why, when one 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-16 Thread Share Long
dear FFL, just to set the record straight:  I don't even THINK the word 
imbecile much less express it.  Emily recently asked a question about TM and I 
followed up with a similar question to Steve.  Not sure how my asking a 
question of Steve is saying anything at all about Emily.  And it's true that I 
ONCE called Emily's sense of humor creepy.  She is the person who is 
multiplying it.  

In this post of hers it is the indirectly attributing to me something I did not 
say or even think, that is what I'd call creepy here.


BTW how I remember this sequence:  lines on stone, lines on sand, lines on 
water, lines on air.  



 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
stooopid
 

  
Steve:  I was being sincere - you really have been laying down some funny 
stuff, IMO.   You are never the butt of my joke.  I almost always laugh in the 
spirit of the moment and never with mean intention - and I'm quite serious 
about that.  I laugh at the human condition and our attempts to communicate 
with each other and I do it so that I don't grieve too hard when things are 
tough.  I should really get a volunteer position as I've already filled out the 
application - I just have to make the call.  

I don't always explain the way I interpret FFL and I probably won't.  I run it 
through a lot of different filters some days.  Which means that I 
misinterpret at times on purpose for a different effect - easy to do with 
words on paper. And it is well known now, thanks to Share, that I have a 
creepy sense of humor.  And I am a TM imbecile.  

And I wasn't feeling particularly up today, if truth be told, so I really 
appreciated your posts.  And, I love a good beer.  Had to give it up when I was 
diagnosed as gluten intolerant, but I'm going to cheat after what Emptybill 
posted today.   Emily




 From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 6:04 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
stooopid
 

  
whether Emily was being sincere or making fun of me, I really don't care.  If 
I can be the butt of her joke, so be it.
(and yes, I need to check out the link)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote:

 If you ever figure out why Emily is laughing, Steve, you'll be where Ted 
 wrote about sex with Sylvia.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
 
  Ahh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haahh ha ha ha ha ha ha 
  ahah ha ha ha ha ha. Steve, I don't know what is up for you, 
  but you are really making me laugh these days.  A ha ha ha ha ha ha 
  ha ha...
  
  
  
  
   From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 2:18 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
  stooopid
   
  
    
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ 
  wrote:
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ 
   wrote:
   
   You always read me perfectly, Steve, and I am loving it. And you have 
   been more merciful than most here--I don't like people criticizing 
   me--but you, you say something nice when you do this (put me in a 
   better place). And believe me, Steve: this makes all the difference.
   
   I am trying to 'get' your philosophy; I think you are trying to teach 
   it to me indirectly--through anecdotes like the ones in this post. I 
   think this an efficacious way to get your wisdom to go right into me, 
   Steve.
   
   I will let you know (through my deeds) the progress I am
 making. Don't ever give up on me. I need your help--AND your love.
  
   Make a daily journal.  We'll call it Robin's Daily Journal.  Make a 
  list of the things you hope to accomplish in a given day, and maybe some 
  personality traits to which you want to pay a little closer attention. 
   And then at the end of the day, you can write about how you feel you 
  did.  
  
  
  For example, Was I too aggressive applying my First Person Ontology 
  test to those I interacted with?  Or, Was my irony appropriate, or 
  insincere.  These might be some areas to consider.  I really don't 
  know.  I am just throwing them out for suggestions.  
  
  
  We're here for you Robin. We can get through this.
  
   We are good now, I think,
 Steve.
   
   Robin 
  
  
   
  
  
 




 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno

2012-12-16 Thread Share Long
Xeno you've chosen to snip the rest of my post which explains what I meant.  
Just to be more clear, I was writing of course about something Emily attributed 
to me yesterday.
Which philosophy is your question and snipping an expression of?



 From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 9:19 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
stooopid
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 dear FFL, just to set the record straight:  I don't even THINK the word 
 imbecile much less express it.

And so, Share, how did you manage to write the above passage? In case you think 
this is a criticism, this is a philosophical question.


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-16 Thread Emily Reyn
Share, *I* wrote the word imbecile.  *I* attributed it to me.  *I was making 
fun of myself.*  I do that a lot.  *You* never used the word to describe me.  
*No one* has ever called me an imbecile here except perhaps Barry, I forget.  
Please *STOP* assuming that I am out to get you and hold some animosity towards 
you.   *I* have *let go*, which frees me up to have fun with you again.  I 
appreciate the time you took on the question I asked and laughinggull's 
response. *I* am not a creepy person, I assure you.  *I* am using that word 
because you did say that about me and I am playing with it now.  *You* said it 
and it is fair game and *I* am taking the sting out of it by using it.  You may 
apologize to me if you want to, because it wasn't very nice, but *I* forgive 
you because I realize you don't understand my sense of humor.  I will spend one 
more post today on penguins.  My aunt is a wildlife photographer and I have a 
couple of wonderful shots
 of penguins that you will appreciate if I can get them uploaded to a link.   




 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 5:08 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
stooopid
 

  
dear FFL, just to set the record straight:  I don't even THINK the word 
imbecile much less express it.  Emily recently asked a question about TM and I 
followed up with a similar question to Steve.  Not sure how my asking a 
question of Steve is saying anything at all about Emily.  And it's true that I 
ONCE called Emily's sense of humor creepy.  She is the person who is 
multiplying it.  

In this post of hers it is the indirectly attributing to me something I did 
not say or even think, that is what I'd call creepy here.



BTW how I remember this sequence:  lines on stone, lines on sand, lines on 
water, lines on air.  



 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
stooopid
 

  
Steve:  I was being sincere - you really have been laying down some funny 
stuff, IMO.   You are never the butt of my joke.  I almost always laugh in the 
spirit of the moment and never with mean intention - and I'm quite serious 
about that.  I laugh at the human condition and our attempts to communicate 
with each other and I do it so that I don't grieve too hard when things are 
tough.  I should really get a volunteer position as I've already filled out 
the application - I just have to make the call.  


I don't always explain the way I interpret FFL and I probably won't.  I run it 
through a lot of different filters some days.  Which means that I 
misinterpret at times on purpose for a different effect - easy to do with 
words on paper. And it is well known now, thanks to Share, that I have a 
creepy sense of humor.  And I am a TM imbecile.  


And I wasn't feeling particularly up today, if truth be told, so I really 
appreciated your posts.  And, I love a good beer.  Had to give it up when I 
was diagnosed as gluten intolerant, but I'm going to cheat after what 
Emptybill posted today.   Emily




 From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 6:04 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
stooopid
 

  
whether Emily was being sincere or making fun of me, I really don't care.  If 
I can be the butt of her joke, so be it.
(and yes, I need to check out the link)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote:

 If you ever figure out why Emily is laughing, Steve, you'll be where Ted 
 wrote about sex with Sylvia.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
 
  Ahh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haahh ha ha ha ha ha ha 
  ahah ha ha ha ha ha. Steve, I don't know what is up for you, 
  but you are really making me laugh these days.  A ha ha ha ha ha ha 
  ha ha...
  
  
  
  
   From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 2:18 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
  stooopid
   
  
    
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ 
  wrote:
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ 
   wrote:
   
   You always read me perfectly, Steve, and I am loving it. And you have 
   been more merciful than most here--I don't like people criticizing 
   me--but you, you say something nice when you do this (put me in a 
   better place). And believe me, Steve: this makes all the difference.
   
   I am trying to 'get' your philosophy; I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-16 Thread Emily Reyn
Dear Robin, you must stop taking so many things at face value - it will be your 
downfall here. You will overreact, you will trigger without knowing it, your 
panties will always be in a twist, which will be extremely uncomfortable for 
you, as a man. (Doesn't bother me in the slightest by the way.)  You will feel 
persecuted.  You will spend way too much time defending your ego, no not your 
ego, your first person ontology.

*I* am coming to terms with my creepiness; I think it likely that Barry and 
Curtis agree with you.  It has been a hard pill to swallow - like one of those 
vitamin horse pills that one swallows in the morning before jumping in the car 
to battle traffic to work and then, a few miles down the road, one realizes 
that while it is supposed to be good for you, it is making you feel so nauseas 
that you have to pull over and puke it up, along with the coffee, while wearing 
a nice corporate suit - and then vomit goes all over the silk scarf and stinks 
up the car and you walk into the morning meeting smelling like too much perfume 
and a cherry lozenge.  

For you Robin, there is a lovely poem in a magazine I get this month called 
Walk with Grand-Dog and Wallace Stevens.  I'm so creepy that I am dedicating 
it to you, but I won't type it out for you because I am lazy.  

Here is the link to the Table of Contents - you will have to click on it to see 
who wrote it (I am a creepy gal, aren't I):

http://thesunmagazine.org/issues/444 




 From: Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:06 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
stooopid
 

  
Why do you have to be so creepy, Emily? 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:

 Share, *I* wrote the word imbecile.  *I* attributed it to me.  *I was 
 making fun of myself.*  I do that a lot.  *You* never used the word to 
 describe me.  *No one* has ever called me an imbecile here except perhaps 
 Barry, I forget.  Please *STOP* assuming that I am out to get you and hold 
 some animosity towards you.   *I* have *let go*, which frees me up to have 
 fun with you again.  I appreciate the time you took on the question I asked 
 and laughinggull's response. *I* am not a creepy person, I assure you.  *I* 
 am using that word because you did say that about me and I am playing with 
 it now.  *You* said it and it is fair game and *I* am taking the sting out 
 of it by using it.  You may apologize to me if you want to, because it 
 wasn't very nice, but *I* forgive you because I realize you don't understand 
 my sense of humor.  I will spend one more post today on penguins.  My aunt 
 is a wildlife photographer and I
 have a couple of wonderful shots
  of penguins that you will appreciate if I can get them uploaded to a link. 
   
 
 
 
 
  From: Share Long sharelong60@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 5:08 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or 
 reeely stooopid
  
 
   
 dear FFL, just to set the record straight:  I don't even THINK the word 
 imbecile much less express it.  Emily recently asked a question about TM 
 and I followed up with a similar question to Steve.  Not sure how my 
 asking a question of Steve is saying anything at all about Emily.  And 
 it's true that I ONCE called Emily's sense of humor creepy.  She is the 
 person who is multiplying it.  
 
 In this post of hers it is the indirectly attributing to me something I did 
 not say or even think, that is what I'd call creepy here.
 
 
 
 BTW how I remember this sequence:  lines on stone, lines on sand, lines on 
 water, lines on air.  
 
 
 
  From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 11:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or 
 reeely stooopid
  
 
   
 Steve:  I was being sincere - you really have been laying down some funny 
 stuff, IMO.   You are never the butt of my joke.  I almost always laugh 
 in the spirit of the moment and never with mean intention - and I'm quite 
 serious about that.  I laugh at the human condition and our attempts to 
 communicate with each other and I do it so that I don't grieve too hard 
 when things are tough.  I should really get a volunteer position as I've 
 already filled out the application - I just have to make the call.  
 
 
 I don't always explain the way I interpret FFL and I probably won't.  I 
 run it through a lot of different filters some days.  Which means that I 
 misinterpret at times on purpose for a different effect - easy to do with 
 words on paper. And it is well known now, thanks to Share, that I have a 
 creepy sense of humor.  And I am a TM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno

2012-12-16 Thread Emily Reyn
Share, my take on Xeno's question is that in order to write it you must have 
thought it, and then you expressed it, by writing it, even if only in the 
moment.  




 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
to Xeno
 

  
Xeno you've chosen to snip the rest of my post which explains what I meant.  
Just to be more clear, I was writing of course about something Emily 
attributed to me yesterday.
Which philosophy is your question and snipping an expression of?



 From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 9:19 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
stooopid
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 dear FFL, just to set the record straight:  I don't even THINK the word 
 imbecile much less express it.

And so, Share, how did you manage to write the above passage? In case you 
think this is a criticism, this is a philosophical question.




 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-16 Thread Emily Reyn
Goodness Ann, you are hysterically funny.  I am creepily connected to you.  If 
I were a man, I'd want to be me.  Ahh ha ha ha ha ha.  Those lines were 
priceless.  I did look up Camille Claudel.  I wouldn't want to be her - poor 
woman - her mother refused to let her out of the asylum. 

O.K.  Now I will go for the day (promise - I feel so guilty for posting so 
much) and come back to listen.  I have to look up Robin's past posts on 
grace.  My memory sucks with all this living in the moment crap.  Maybe I'll 
use the advanced search on that.  And I want to find those pictures of penguins 
to show Share how supportive I feel towards her in Reality.  Love ya, Ann.  
Sincerely, Emily.




 From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:12 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
stooopid
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
  
   dear FFL, just to set the record straight:  I don't even THINK the word 
   imbecile much less express it.  Emily recently asked a question about 
   TM and I followed up with a similar question to Steve.  Not sure how my 
   asking a question of Steve is saying anything at all about Emily.  And 
   it's true that I ONCE called Emily's sense of humor creepy.  She is the 
   person who is multiplying it.  
   
   In this post of hers it is the indirectly attributing to me something I 
   did not say or even think, that is what I'd call creepy here.
  
  Why this sudden animosity towards Emily? Steve and her can be friends too, 
  you know. 
 
 And why don't you just leave this be, Ann? I feel *your* animosity here. 

Yes, and I am ashamed and abject, right here and right in the 'now'. There is 
no escaping the 'fact' of my unwarranted attack on the one who is already 
persecuted mercilessly here. You were right in pointing this out, what else 
could you have done given your propensity for finding the truth and reality in 
all things? Please, please accept my most profound offering which is in the 
form of my regret in this matter. It won't happen again (well, maybe can I 
exempt Barry from this promise?).

There is someone who is being persecuted. Emily is only getting what she 
deserves. 

I know this now and stand humbly corrected. Emily you ARE a creep and creepy 
to boot.

If I were a woman I would want to be Camille Claudel. 

And if Share were a man she wants to be Steve. If I were a man I'd want to be 
me.

Ravi was referring to Prince Myshkin--where Dostoyevsky's intent was to 
create a character entirely positive...with an absolutely beautiful nature. 
I hope this once, the object of your gratuitous hatred can resist the 
temptation to take it to you, Ann--because if she does this once more--and 
you don't realize how ignominiously defeated you are, I will have to send you 
(this time) into a virtual exile.

Just try it, buster. But I agree, I will keep my head down because the fury of 
the onslaught could come from anywhere and I may not be up to the task of 
surviving. There are more than a few white knights here on this forum.

 I am trying to do some good around here, Ann: please learn to whisper more 
 wisely to these other horses. 

I'm doin' my best but sometimes those 'heehaws' just burst out of me and I'm 
just not sure where they come from. I could be the neuroplasticity talking but 
something tells me it's the devil in me. I think you may have been right about 
that.
 
   BTW how I remember this sequence:  lines on stone, lines on sand, lines 
   on water, lines on air.  
   
   
   
From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 11:45 PM
   Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or 
   reeely stooopid
   
   
     
   Steve:  I was being sincere - you really have been laying down some 
   funny stuff, IMO.   You are never the butt of my joke.  I almost 
   always laugh in the spirit of the moment and never with mean intention - 
   and I'm quite serious about that.  I laugh at the human condition and 
   our attempts to communicate with each other and I do it so that I don't 
   grieve too hard when things are tough.  I should really get a volunteer 
   position as I've already filled out the application - I just have to 
   make the call.  
   
   I don't always explain the way I interpret FFL and I probably won't.  I 
   run it through a lot of different filters some days.  Which means that 
   I misinterpret at times on purpose for a different effect - easy to do 
   with words on paper. And it is well known now, thanks to Share, that I 
   have a creepy sense

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-16 Thread Ravi Chivukula
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 10:42 AM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote:
 
  If I were a man I'd want to be me.

 I cannot help but go on the record here and feel
 sorry for Ann's hubby, not for the first time.

 :-)


Leave Ann's hubby out of this you paranoid, delusional, narcissistic
asshole !!!


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-16 Thread Share Long
I'm still reading Mindsight by Dr. Daniel Siegel who incorporates various forms 
of mindfulness into his therapy practice.  Funnily enough I'm just reading the 
chapter in which he distinguishes between implicit and explicit memory.  He 
points out that even with PTSD there may be little or no explicit memory.  But 
implicit memories can surface as vivid flashbacks even decades after a 
traumatic event.  During the original event certain memory blocking chemicals 
flood the brain.  And even though the hippocampus is disabled, implicit 
memories of the traumatic experience will nonetheless be encoded into the 
nervous system.  These are what can influence behavior in some problematic 
ways.  Of course such understanding is not pertinent and or useful to 
everyone.  But it may be a relief to some to know that there might be 
physiological reasons for certain circumstances of their current life that have 
little to do with their ability to get over the past and
 just be in the present.  I believe in the power of intention.  But sometimes 
that is not enough.  IMO.  



 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 2:02 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
stooopid
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
  
   My feeling about living in the moment is that it's not 
   all that it's cracked up to be. It is a New Age cliche 
   and refers to something for which human beings are not 
   designed. We live simultaneously in past, present, and 
   future. That's our nature. It is a quintessential human 
   act to think back to the past, and constantly interpret 
   and reinterpret it for ourselves, and we also are wired 
   to spend a lot of time envisaging the future, for better 
   or worse. My cat can do neither of those things. He is 
   pretty good at living in the moment, but I have no desire 
   to emulate him. 
  
  Well said, but the issue to me seems to revolve more 
  around which species have the ability to *not* submit
  to the pressures of past, present, and future when 
  dealing with present events, not the tendency to do so.
  
  That issue brings up the issue of free will, and of 
  being capable of influencing one's passage through 
  time and space. Is one a prisoner of one's previous
  passages through time and space, or merely influenced
  by them?
  
  I'm going to go for the latter. The samskaras are 
  present, *in* the present. The compulsion to submit
  to them and keep doing the same old same old is not. 
  
  Not for human beings, anyway. I can't speak for your
  cat.  :-)
 
 I would like to think you are right, but I can't say that 
 I feel free of those old ghosts that loiter in the psyche. 
 I tend to agree with Faulkner, The past is never dead. It 
 is not even past. 

That said, it need not ever become the present.

Only obeisance to the past creates that. Having
a greater allegiance to the present creates the
possibility of new timelines. IMO, of course.


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-16 Thread Ravi Chivukula
On Dec 16, 2012, at 3:41 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 
 On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:37 PM, authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
  
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote:
 
  On the contrary, I think we should mention Ann's hubby in
  every post from now on. I for one would like to know what
  peculiar magic he possessed that enabled him to saddle up
  that spirited filly and ride her off into the sunset.
 
 Yeesh. Although I'm in full sympathy with the sentiment, I
 can't help pointing out what an incredibly sexist metaphor
 you've used to express it.
 
 That's because he IS a sexist pig in addition to being an evil sorcerer - duh 
 !!! 

No wait - evil Sorcerers are sexist pigs - duh  !!!

 
 
 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-16 Thread Ravi Chivukula
On Dec 16, 2012, at 3:43 PM, authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... 
 wrote:
 
  CORRECTION: Stay away from the innocent purity of Ann's
  husband  I
 
 You had the pronoun (me) right the first time, my friend.
 

Damn I thought I had the formula on the usage of me vs I nailed -  oh well, 
you got me there :-)


 
  you creepy, evil Sorcerer from Iowa.
  
  On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...wrote:
  
   Stay away from me and Ann's hubby - you creepy, evil
   Sorcerer from Iowa.
 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-16 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Yeah why am I freaking out like this empty baby. I definitely love feste baby 
and Barry baby but I thought they were piling on Ann's husband  me. This shows 
I am not completely healed. Anyway Devi  I are strolling along the beach - we 
will sort this out.


On Dec 16, 2012, at 4:11 PM, emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Ravioli,
 
 Here you are, screeching like an obsessive old lady
 with nothing better to do. Is this what your balls are
 for ... or do you just make this stuff up 'cause you can't
 think of anything informative to say?
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
 chivukula.ravi@... wrote:
 
  On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 10:42 AM, turquoiseb
 no_reply@yahoogroups.comwrote:
 
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote:
   
If I were a man I'd want to be me.
  
   I cannot help but go on the record here and feel
   sorry for Ann's hubby, not for the first time.
  
   :-)
 
 
  Leave Ann's hubby out of this you paranoid, delusional, narcissistic
  asshole !!!
 
 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-16 Thread Ravi Chivukula
On Dec 16, 2012, at 4:49 PM, feste37 fest...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
   !
  
  It's a sexist metaphor regardless of whether Ann objected
  to it. She was responding graciously to the compliment and
  ignoring the sexism. Since the compliment wasn't directed
  at me, I have no need to be gracious and can call it as I
  see it, see? Don't be such a pompous ass. You could have
  said, Yes, I guess it was, sorry about that! and have
  come out smelling like a rose.
 
 
 I'm not sorry about it at all. I like it. I chose it deliberately, with a 
 little bit of a smile.
 

An evil smile I reckon. You got jealous on Ann's husband and cast a spell on 
her. Stay away from Ann and her husband you evil bastard !!!
 What you are doing here is what you do so often -- getting offended on behalf 
 of someone who is not the least bit offended. Seems silly to me. Haven't you 
 got better things to do, old girl?
 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-15 Thread Emily Reyn
And so you did (hear from Judy).  Love the video, Beautifulgull.  I do, on 
occasion, use the advanced searchbut I'm generally lazy in this regard.  




 From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 9:14 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
stooopid
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:

 Laughingfully! Are you feathers all ruffled up? 
 

Not at all, Emily. I was attempting to fly higher with my creativity and was 
truly laughing the whole time, but in a good way. Although it was humor at the 
expense of Judy, I somehow think that perhaps she will understand and will 
feel where I was coming from. If not, I'm sure I'll hear from *her*.

 You are really getting good at this search stuffmay I call on you next 
 time I need to find something?

Better for you to learn to do it yourself. You know that whole give a man a 
fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and you feed him for a 
lifetime thingy. Just click on Advanced to the right of the Search box at 
the top and fill in the specifics.

 This is so damn sweet. Isn't it cute? Don't you just love Judy? Do you know 
 how many times the word styupid has been used? Ha. I do.

You lost me here Emily. But that's OK. Thanks for reading and responding.

http://youtu.be/IS3HSguQNM8

 
  From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 7:59 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
 stooopid
  
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
 
  Gee, you're stupid, laughinggull.
  
  Feste too. But you're *really* stupid.
  
 
 snip
 
 Feste, we both got off easy in the above from our dear Judy; IMO, I got off 
 just a bit easier. I received a mere harsh glance whereas you received a 
 slap on the wrist. However, we both avoided a good ol' fashioned 
 ass-whoopin'. You see, she only called me stupid (less favorable) but 
 spelled it correctly (more favorable); same for you, however, she added the 
 adverb really (less favorable), again spelled correctly (more favorable), 
 then used asterisks for emphasis (less favorable).
 
 This got me to thinking (!) and, being a slow day at work yesterday, I 
 found myself becoming more proficient in the use of the advanced search 
 function on FFL. Below are some of my findings:
 
 Few have tried but none can match the skill and artistry of our dear Judy 
 in calling someone stupid on this forum...to put it simply, she *is* and 
 will *always be* the one true master.
 
 When Judy wants you to pay attention (like a fifth-grade student with his 
 head on his desk abrupty awakened from a stolen nap, and lifting his head 
 in confusion thinking Did Miss Stein just ask me something?), she 
 mispells stupid as stoopid. The number of os used varies from as few 
 as two up to a whopping eighteen and is dependent on how much attention she 
 wishes to garner from you:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/272412
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/253194
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/225008
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/279466
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/276580
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/328630
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/261112.
 
 My research also indicates that our dear Judy is the only poster on FFL to 
 have attempted using stoopider or stoopidest, again with varying number 
 of os, as in:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/247574
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/177467.
 I humbly bow to the master.
 
 By the time she starts attaching really, again misspelled as reely with 
 varying number of es, to her stoopid, it becomes suddenly and 
 abundantly clear to that fifth-grade student who has just awakened from his 
 stolen nap that, yes indeedy, Miss Stein has definitely asked him a 
 question, and not only that, fully expects him to answer or else face the 
 consequences:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/163836
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/251793
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/270344
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/272653.
 
 That fifth-grade begins furtively glancing around looking for an escape 
 route when Miss Stein begins adding extra ls (this doesn't happen often 
 as I think it might be reserved for very special cases) in the misspelling 
 of reeellly, and/or using several repetitions of reely, again with 
 varying number of es (happens frequently):
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/291538
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/291102
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-15 Thread Emily Reyn
P.S.  Yes, I know the lyrics aren't quite love is in the air on this most 
auspicious of holidays, but the way he sings Hallelujah makes up for it all.  




 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
stooopid
 

  
Hallelujah


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJTiXoMCppw





 From: Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 1:10 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
stooopid
 

  
Suzanne takes you down to her place near the river 
You can hear the boats go by 
You can spend the night beside her 
And you know that she's half crazy 
But that's why you want to be there 
And she feeds you tea and oranges 
That come all the way from China 
And just when you mean to tell her 
That you have no love to give her 
Then she gets you on her wavelength 
And she lets the river answer 
That you've always been her lover 
And you want to travel with her 
And you want to travel blind 
And you know that she will trust you 
For you've touched her perfect body with your mind. 
And Jesus was a sailor 
When he walked upon the water 
And he spent a long time watching 
From his lonely wooden tower 
And when he knew for certain 
Only drowning men could see him 
He said All men will be sailors then 
Until the sea shall free them 
But he himself was broken 
Long before the sky would open 
Forsaken, almost human 
He sank beneath your wisdom like a stone 
And you want to travel with him 
And you want to travel blind 
And you think maybe you'll trust him 
For he's touched your perfect body with his mind. 
Now Suzanne takes your hand 
And she leads you to the river 
She is wearing rags and feathers 
From Salvation Army counters 
And the sun pours down like honey 
On our lady of the harbour 
And she shows you where to look 
Among the garbage and the flowers 
There are heroes in the seaweed 
There are children in the morning 
They are leaning out for love 
And they will lean that way forever 
While Suzanne holds the mirror 
And you want to travel with her 
And you want to travel blind 
And you know that you can trust her 
For she's touched your perfect body with her mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otJY2HvW3Bw

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 In the air of newness of that element,
 In an air of freshness, clearness, greenness, blueness,
 That which is always beginning because it is part
 Of that which is always beginning, again and again.
  -Wallace Stevens
 
 No malady of the quotidian here Robin, nor is my soul finding me a bore. 
 Besides, if either was true, it would be up to me to recognize that on my 
 own, wouldn't it? As Stevens refers to in the above with a hopeful outlook, 
 it's a new beginning each and every time. And the adjustments that come 
 that only *I* can experience and know.
 
 I posted this clip from The Joy Luck Club earlier, I think as my first 
 contribution to Wunnerful Wednesday. If you'll watch it to the end, perhaps 
 you'll understand my perspective more fully, especially the part about 
 cannot learn, must be born this way:
 
 http://youtu.be/gjpgeCKL2hg
 
 May your holidays be joyous Robin! What are your plans?
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote:
 
  There is a perfection to what you are oblivious to in all your posts, lg.
  
  Your problem is this: You have lost the capacity to sense what you just 
  might be anaesthetized to in your apprehension of what is going on.
  
  It's starts with your conception and experience of yourself: your self is 
  way too known to yourself to have been created by something other than 
  yourself.
  
  You have a metaphysical complacency--unconscious as this is--which always 
  deprives you of any kind of real terror or beauty in the form of a 
  self-discovery.
  
  Look at the reflexive way you are processing this very post of mine: 
  there you have exactly what I am trying to tell you: You subvert any 
  chance of being in the unknown, and therefore your responses are always 
  tediously predictable to your soul--which is finding you a bore.
  
  The malady of the quotidian laughinggull.
  
  I knew you would enjoy this.
  
  And remember: the first order of response is to defend yourself, find a 
  rejoinder, mount some counterattack.
  
  Never to let something get into you which will or might alter your 
  experience of yourself and reality.
  
  Don't mind me, laughinggull: I compensate for my congenital mediocrity by 
  trying to be much more interesting and provocative than I have a right to 
  be.
  
  My life is just very dull.
  
  Forgive me.
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@ wrote

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-15 Thread Emily Reyn
Ahh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haahh ha ha ha ha ha ha ahah ha 
ha ha ha ha. Steve, I don't know what is up for you, but you are really making 
me laugh these days.  A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...




 From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 2:18 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
stooopid
 

  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote:
 
 You always read me perfectly, Steve, and I am loving it. And you have been 
 more merciful than most here--I don't like people criticizing me--but you, 
 you say something nice when you do this (put me in a better place). And 
 believe me, Steve: this makes all the difference.
 
 I am trying to 'get' your philosophy; I think you are trying to teach it to 
 me indirectly--through anecdotes like the ones in this post. I think this an 
 efficacious way to get your wisdom to go right into me, Steve.
 
 I will let you know (through my deeds) the progress I am making. Don't ever 
 give up on me. I need your help--AND your love.

 Make a daily journal.  We'll call it Robin's Daily Journal.  Make a list of 
the things you hope to accomplish in a given day, and maybe some personality 
traits to which you want to pay a little closer attention.  And then at the 
end of the day, you can write about how you feel you did.  


For example, Was I too aggressive applying my First Person Ontology test to 
those I interacted with?  Or, Was my irony appropriate, or insincere.  
These might be some areas to consider.  I really don't know.  I am just 
throwing them out for suggestions.  


We're here for you Robin. We can get through this.

 We are good now, I think, Steve.
 
 Robin 


 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-15 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Yeah Steve makes me smile too. He is such a lovable idiot - such hilarity,
charm, beauty in his utterly cluelessness. And he doesn't take any offense
no matter how many times I call him an idiot - what's not to like about
him?!!

On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **


 Ahh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haahh ha ha ha ha ha ha
 ahah ha ha ha ha ha. Steve, I don't know what is up for you,
 but you are really making me laugh these days.  A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
 ha...

   --
 *From:* seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com
 *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, December 15, 2012 2:18 PM

 *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or
 reeely stooopid



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@...
 wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@wrote:
  
  You always read me perfectly, Steve, and I am loving it. And you have
 been more merciful than most here--I don't like people criticizing me--but
 you, you say something nice when you do this (put me in a better place).
 And believe me, Steve: this makes all the difference.
 
  I am trying to 'get' your philosophy; I think you are trying to teach it
 to me indirectly--through anecdotes like the ones in this post. I think
 this an efficacious way to get your wisdom to go right into me, Steve.
 
  I will let you know (through my deeds) the progress I am making. Don't
 ever give up on me. I need your help--AND your love.

  Make a daily journal.  We'll call it Robin's Daily Journal.  Make a
 list of the things you hope to accomplish in a given day, and maybe some
 personality traits to which you want to pay a little closer attention.  And
 then at the end of the day, you can write about how you feel you did.

 For example, Was I too aggressive applying my First Person Ontology test
 to those I interacted with?  Or, Was my irony appropriate, or insincere.
  These might be some areas to consider.  I really don't know.  I am just
 throwing them out for suggestions.

 We're here for you Robin. We can get through this.

  We are good now, I think, Steve.
 
  Robin







Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-15 Thread Ravi Chivukula
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yeah Steve makes me smile too. He is such a lovable idiot - such hilarity,
 charm, beauty in his utterly cluelessness. And he doesn't take any offense
 no matter how many times I call him an idiot - what's not to like about
 him?!!


And a real idiot should never take offense at being called an idiot because
that would be antithetical to the idea of a true idiot. I suspect the
existence has created close to a perfect idiot in Steve. I'm so glad he is
here on FFL !!! I love you Steve baby - mw.




 On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.comwrote:

 **


 Ahh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haahh ha ha ha ha ha ha
 ahah ha ha ha ha ha. Steve, I don't know what is up for you,
 but you are really making me laugh these days.  A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
 ha...

   --
 *From:* seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com
 *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, December 15, 2012 2:18 PM

 *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or
 reeely stooopid



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@...
 wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@wrote:
  
  You always read me perfectly, Steve, and I am loving it. And you have
 been more merciful than most here--I don't like people criticizing me--but
 you, you say something nice when you do this (put me in a better place).
 And believe me, Steve: this makes all the difference.
 
  I am trying to 'get' your philosophy; I think you are trying to teach
 it to me indirectly--through anecdotes like the ones in this post. I think
 this an efficacious way to get your wisdom to go right into me, Steve.
 
  I will let you know (through my deeds) the progress I am making. Don't
 ever give up on me. I need your help--AND your love.

  Make a daily journal.  We'll call it Robin's Daily Journal.  Make a
 list of the things you hope to accomplish in a given day, and maybe some
 personality traits to which you want to pay a little closer attention.  And
 then at the end of the day, you can write about how you feel you did.

 For example, Was I too aggressive applying my First Person Ontology test
 to those I interacted with?  Or, Was my irony appropriate, or insincere.
  These might be some areas to consider.  I really don't know.  I am just
 throwing them out for suggestions.

 We're here for you Robin. We can get through this.

  We are good now, I think, Steve.
 
  Robin









Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-15 Thread Share Long
dear Steve, if I had to be a man, I'd want to be just like you (-:

Now I'm wondering how you would answer Emily's question:  is feeling deeply 
stress.  My understanding from Maharishi's teaching is that stress actually 
prevents one from feeling deeply.  And that as consciousness becomes 
established, one actually can feel more deeply because one is rooted in that 
consciousness.  But I'm forgetting some crucial distinction.  What do you 
remember?  Thank you     



 From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 4:18 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
stooopid
 

  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote:
 
 You always read me perfectly, Steve, and I am loving it. And you have been 
 more merciful than most here--I don't like people criticizing me--but you, 
 you say something nice when you do this (put me in a better place). And 
 believe me, Steve: this makes all the difference.
 
 I am trying to 'get' your philosophy; I think you are trying to teach it to 
 me indirectly--through anecdotes like the ones in this post. I think this an 
 efficacious way to get your wisdom to go right into me, Steve.
 
 I will let you know (through my deeds) the progress I am making. Don't ever 
 give up on me. I need your help--AND your love.

 Make a daily journal.  We'll call it Robin's Daily Journal.  Make a list of 
the things you hope to accomplish in a given day, and maybe some personality 
traits to which you want to pay a little closer attention.  And then at the end 
of the day, you can write about how you feel you did.  

For example, Was I too aggressive applying my First Person Ontology test to 
those I interacted with?  Or, Was my irony appropriate, or insincere.  These 
might be some areas to consider.  I really don't know.  I am just throwing them 
out for suggestions.  

We're here for you Robin. We can get through this.

 We are good now, I think, Steve.
 
 Robin 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-15 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Fuck Rama and Sita - my idea of a perfect couple is Steve and Share.


On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **


 dear Steve, if I had to be a man, I'd want to be just like you (-:

 Now I'm wondering how you would answer Emily's question:  is feeling
 deeply stress.  My understanding from Maharishi's teaching is that stress
 actually prevents one from feeling deeply.  And that as consciousness
 becomes established, one actually can feel more deeply because one is
 rooted in that consciousness.  But I'm forgetting some crucial
 distinction.  What do you remember?  Thank you
   --
 *From:* seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com

 *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, December 15, 2012 4:18 PM
 *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or
 reeely stooopid



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@...
 wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@wrote:
  
  You always read me perfectly, Steve, and I am loving it. And you have
 been more merciful than most here--I don't like people criticizing me--but
 you, you say something nice when you do this (put me in a better place).
 And believe me, Steve: this makes all the difference.
 
  I am trying to 'get' your philosophy; I think you are trying to teach it
 to me indirectly--through anecdotes like the ones in this post. I think
 this an efficacious way to get your wisdom to go right into me, Steve.
 
  I will let you know (through my deeds) the progress I am making. Don't
 ever give up on me. I need your help--AND your love.

  Make a daily journal.  We'll call it Robin's Daily Journal.  Make a
 list of the things you hope to accomplish in a given day, and maybe some
 personality traits to which you want to pay a little closer attention.  And
 then at the end of the day, you can write about how you feel you did.

 For example, Was I too aggressive applying my First Person Ontology test
 to those I interacted with?  Or, Was my irony appropriate, or insincere.
  These might be some areas to consider.  I really don't know.  I am just
 throwing them out for suggestions.

 We're here for you Robin. We can get through this.

  We are good now, I think, Steve.
 
  Robin



   



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-15 Thread Emily Reyn
Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha..my stomach muscles are getting a workout 
hereah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.  I listened to that Robin, I did, I didand 
I'll never tell, I never will.  




 From: Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 2:37 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
stooopid
 

  
If you ever figure out why Emily is laughing, Steve, you'll be where Ted wrote 
about sex with Sylvia.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:

 Ahh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haahh ha ha ha ha ha ha ahah 
 ha ha ha ha ha. Steve, I don't know what is up for you, but you are really 
 making me laugh these days.  A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...
 
 
 
 
  From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 2:18 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
 stooopid
  
 
   
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote:
  
  You always read me perfectly, Steve, and I am loving it. And you have 
  been more merciful than most here--I don't like people criticizing 
  me--but you, you say something nice when you do this (put me in a better 
  place). And believe me, Steve: this makes all the difference.
  
  I am trying to 'get' your philosophy; I think you are trying to teach it 
  to me indirectly--through anecdotes like the ones in this post. I think 
  this an efficacious way to get your wisdom to go right into me, Steve.
  
  I will let you know (through my deeds) the progress I am making. Don't 
  ever give up on me. I need your help--AND your love.
 
  Make a daily journal.  We'll call it Robin's Daily Journal.  Make a 
 list of the things you hope to accomplish in a given day, and maybe some 
 personality traits to which you want to pay a little closer attention. 
  And then at the end of the day, you can write about how you feel you did. 
  
 
 
 For example, Was I too aggressive applying my First Person Ontology test 
 to those I interacted with?  Or, Was my irony appropriate, or 
 insincere.  These might be some areas to consider.  I really don't know. 
  I am just throwing them out for suggestions.  
 
 
 We're here for you Robin. We can get through this.
 
  We are good now, I think, Steve.
  
  Robin 
 
 
  
 
 



 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-15 Thread Emily Reyn
Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.O.K. I am so sorry, really, I amah ha ha ha 
ha ha ha ha.  I will sign off for awhile and try to stop giggling.  Has anyone 
ever posted out on Sunday?  I don't want to be the first.  Alex and Bhairitu 
and Robin and Share and Steve - thank you.  




 From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
stooopid
 

  
Fuck Rama and Sita - my idea of a perfect couple is Steve and Share.



On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
  
dear Steve, if I had to be a man, I'd want to be just like you (-:

Now I'm wondering how you would answer Emily's question:  is feeling deeply 
stress.  My understanding from Maharishi's teaching is that stress actually 
prevents one from feeling deeply.  And that as consciousness becomes 
established, one actually can feel more deeply because one is rooted in that 
consciousness.  But I'm forgetting some crucial distinction.  What do you 
remember?  Thank you     



 From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 4:18 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
stooopid
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote:
 
 You always read me perfectly, Steve, and I am loving it. And you have been 
 more merciful than most here--I don't like people criticizing me--but you, 
 you say something nice when you do this (put me in a better place). And 
 believe me, Steve: this makes all the difference.
 
 I am trying to 'get' your philosophy; I think you are trying to teach it to 
 me indirectly--through anecdotes like the ones in this post. I think this 
 an efficacious way to get your wisdom to go right into me, Steve.
 
 I will let you know (through my deeds) the progress I am making. Don't ever 
 give up on me. I need your help--AND your love.

 Make a daily journal.  We'll call it Robin's Daily Journal.  Make a list 
of the things you hope to accomplish in a given day, and maybe some 
personality traits to which you want to pay a little closer attention.  And 
then at the end of the day, you can write about how you feel you did.  


For example, Was I too aggressive applying my First Person Ontology test to 
those I interacted with?  Or, Was my irony appropriate, or insincere.  
These might be some areas to consider.  I really don't know.  I am just 
throwing them out for suggestions.  


We're here for you Robin. We can get through this.

 We are good now, I think, Steve.
 
 Robin 





 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-15 Thread Emily Reyn
And Ravi and Annwhy do I keep forgetting things.it's a sign that you 
are moving from line on water to line on air in my life.  No, wait, that can't 
be rightI'll contemplate on that further.  Have a lovely day and I'll 
continue to cry for the lost




 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
stooopid
 

  
Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.O.K. I am so sorry, really, I amah ha ha ha 
ha ha ha ha.  I will sign off for awhile and try to stop giggling.  Has anyone 
ever posted out on Sunday?  I don't want to be the first.  Alex and Bhairitu 
and Robin and Share and Steve - thank you.  




 From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
stooopid
 

  
Fuck Rama and Sita - my idea of a perfect couple is Steve and Share.



On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
  
dear Steve, if I had to be a man, I'd want to be just like you (-:

Now I'm wondering how you would answer Emily's question:  is feeling deeply 
stress.  My understanding from Maharishi's teaching is that stress actually 
prevents one from feeling deeply.  And that as consciousness becomes 
established, one actually can feel more deeply because one is rooted in that 
consciousness.  But I'm forgetting some crucial distinction.  What do you 
remember?  Thank you     



 From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 4:18 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
stooopid
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... 
wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote:
 
 You always read me perfectly, Steve, and I am loving it. And you have been 
 more merciful than most here--I don't like people criticizing me--but you, 
 you say something nice when you do this (put me in a better place). And 
 believe me, Steve: this makes all the difference.
 
 I am trying to 'get' your philosophy; I think you are trying to teach it 
 to me indirectly--through anecdotes like the ones in this post. I think 
 this an efficacious way to get your wisdom to go right into me, Steve.
 
 I will let you know (through my deeds) the progress I am making. Don't 
 ever give up on me. I need your help--AND your love.

 Make a daily journal.  We'll call it Robin's Daily Journal.  Make a list 
of the things you hope to accomplish in a given day, and maybe some 
personality traits to which you want to pay a little closer attention.  And 
then at the end of the day, you can write about how you feel you did.  


For example, Was I too aggressive applying my First Person Ontology test to 
those I interacted with?  Or, Was my irony appropriate, or insincere.  
These might be some areas to consider.  I really don't know.  I am just 
throwing them out for suggestions.  


We're here for you Robin. We can get through this.

 We are good now, I think, Steve.
 
 Robin 







 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-15 Thread Share Long
Good God, Steve, do you realize how in that ocean of your kindness you are 
nonetheless formidable?  I mean as a soul, as a spiritual hero.  I think part 
of what makes you so in my eyes is that you don't seem to think of yourself 
that way.  You just live your life day by day, hanging in there, doing what 
needs to be done, loving all and sundry.  Yet with all this strength of 
character, you have got to be one of the most guileless people I know.  I feel 
fortunate to know you here on FFL.  Hope I haven't been too mushy.  
Share   

PS  I just read your answer about emotions.  It was vintage Steve:  
uncomplicated and profound, kind.  And thank you for the bit about Hans Seyle.  
I had forgotten his definition of stress.  Now I'm looking forward even more to 
seeing Lincoln with my Mom.  




 From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 8:04 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
stooopid
 

  
whether Emily was being sincere or making fun of me, I really don't care.  If I 
can be the butt of her joke, so be it.
(and yes, I need to check out the link)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote:

 If you ever figure out why Emily is laughing, Steve, you'll be where Ted 
 wrote about sex with Sylvia.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
 
  Ahh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haahh ha ha ha ha ha ha 
  ahah ha ha ha ha ha. Steve, I don't know what is up for you, 
  but you are really making me laugh these days.  A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 
  ha...
  
  
  
  
   From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 2:18 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
  stooopid
   
  
    
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote:
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote:
   
   You always read me perfectly, Steve, and I am loving it. And you have 
   been more merciful than most here--I don't like people criticizing 
   me--but you, you say something nice when you do this (put me in a better 
   place). And believe me, Steve: this makes all the difference.
   
   I am trying to 'get' your philosophy; I think you are trying to teach it 
   to me indirectly--through anecdotes like the ones in this post. I think 
   this an efficacious way to get your wisdom to go right into me, Steve.
   
   I will let you know (through my deeds) the progress I am
 making. Don't ever give up on me. I need your help--AND your love.
  
   Make a daily journal.  We'll call it Robin's Daily Journal.  Make a 
  list of the things you hope to accomplish in a given day, and maybe some 
  personality traits to which you want to pay a little closer attention. 
   And then at the end of the day, you can write about how you feel you 
  did.  
  
  
  For example, Was I too aggressive applying my First Person Ontology 
  test to those I interacted with?  Or, Was my irony appropriate, or 
  insincere.  These might be some areas to consider.  I really don't 
  know.  I am just throwing them out for suggestions.  
  
  
  We're here for you Robin. We can get through this.
  
   We are good now, I think,
 Steve.
   
   Robin 
  
  
   
  
  
 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-15 Thread Ravi Chivukula
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 6:03 PM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.comwrote:

 **


 you are wonderful, Ravi.  I have a feeling you did not hear that enough
 growing up, so I would like to do my share to try to make that up to you.
 you know, on behalf of existence, type of thing.


LOL..you crack me up you fucking idiot - you have no clue what I am and
what I am not. I suspect God had an innocent desire to enjoy his own
creation as the most consummate idiot - it must have taken a while for him
to perfect that and that product is you Steve baby.



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
 wrote:
 
  On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...wrote:

 
   Yeah Steve makes me smile too. He is such a lovable idiot - such
 hilarity,
   charm, beauty in his utterly cluelessness. And he doesn't take any
 offense
   no matter how many times I call him an idiot - what's not to like about
   him?!!
 
 
  And a real idiot should never take offense at being called an idiot
 because
  that would be antithetical to the idea of a true idiot. I suspect the
  existence has created close to a perfect idiot in Steve. I'm so glad he
 is
  here on FFL !!! I love you Steve baby - mw.
 
 
  
  
   On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...wrote:
  
   **

  
  
   Ahh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haahh ha ha ha ha ha ha
   ahah ha ha ha ha ha. Steve, I don't know what is up for
 you,
   but you are really making me laugh these days. A ha ha ha ha ha
 ha ha
   ha...
  
   --
   *From:* seventhray27 steve.sundur@...
   *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   *Sent:* Saturday, December 15, 2012 2:18 PM
  
   *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or

   reeely stooopid
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@
   wrote:
   
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27
 steve.sundur@wrote:

You always read me perfectly, Steve, and I am loving it. And you
 have
   been more merciful than most here--I don't like people criticizing
 me--but
   you, you say something nice when you do this (put me in a better
 place).
   And believe me, Steve: this makes all the difference.
   
I am trying to 'get' your philosophy; I think you are trying to
 teach
   it to me indirectly--through anecdotes like the ones in this post. I
 think
   this an efficacious way to get your wisdom to go right into me, Steve.
   
I will let you know (through my deeds) the progress I am making.
 Don't
   ever give up on me. I need your help--AND your love.
  
   Make a daily journal. We'll call it Robin's Daily Journal. Make a
   list of the things you hope to accomplish in a given day, and maybe
 some
   personality traits to which you want to pay a little closer
 attention. And
   then at the end of the day, you can write about how you feel you did.
  
   For example, Was I too aggressive applying my First Person Ontology
 test
   to those I interacted with? Or, Was my irony appropriate, or
 insincere.
   These might be some areas to consider. I really don't know. I am just
   throwing them out for suggestions.
  
   We're here for you Robin. We can get through this.
  
We are good now, I think, Steve.
   
Robin
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 

  



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-15 Thread Ravi Chivukula
You are not hurt are you Stevie baby? Now you have started to sow the seeds
of doubt in my mind - looks like I have let my love and attachment for you
to run amok, perhaps you are not the consummate idiot I fantasized you to
be...damn.

On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 7:07 PM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.comwrote:

 **


 [image: :)]

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
 wrote:
 
  On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 6:03 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote:
 
   **

  
  
   you are wonderful, Ravi. I have a feeling you did not hear that enough
   growing up, so I would like to do my share to try to make that up to
 you.
   you know, on behalf of existence, type of thing.
  
 
  LOL..you crack me up you fucking idiot - you have no clue what I am and
  what I am not. I suspect God had an innocent desire to enjoy his own
  creation as the most consummate idiot - it must have taken a while for
 him
  to perfect that and that product is you Steve baby.
 
 
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
   wrote:
   
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...:

  
   
 Yeah Steve makes me smile too. He is such a lovable idiot - such
   hilarity,
 charm, beauty in his utterly cluelessness. And he doesn't take any
   offense
 no matter how many times I call him an idiot - what's not to like
 about
 him?!!
   
   
And a real idiot should never take offense at being called an idiot
   because
that would be antithetical to the idea of a true idiot. I suspect the
existence has created close to a perfect idiot in Steve. I'm so glad
 he
   is
here on FFL !!! I love you Steve baby - mw.
   
   


 On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...:


 **
  


 Ahh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haahh ha ha ha ha ha ha
 ahah ha ha ha ha ha. Steve, I don't know what is up
 for
   you,
 but you are really making me laugh these days. A ha ha ha ha
 ha
   ha ha
 ha...

 --
 *From:* seventhray27 steve.sundur@
 *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, December 15, 2012 2:18 PM

 *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or
  
 reeely stooopid



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen
 maskedzebra@
 wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27
   steve.sundur@wrote:
  
  You always read me perfectly, Steve, and I am loving it. And you
   have
 been more merciful than most here--I don't like people criticizing
   me--but
 you, you say something nice when you do this (put me in a better
   place).
 And believe me, Steve: this makes all the difference.
 
  I am trying to 'get' your philosophy; I think you are trying to
   teach
 it to me indirectly--through anecdotes like the ones in this
 post. I
   think
 this an efficacious way to get your wisdom to go right into me,
 Steve.
 
  I will let you know (through my deeds) the progress I am making.
   Don't
 ever give up on me. I need your help--AND your love.

 Make a daily journal. We'll call it Robin's Daily Journal. Make
 a
 list of the things you hope to accomplish in a given day, and
 maybe
   some
 personality traits to which you want to pay a little closer
   attention. And
 then at the end of the day, you can write about how you feel you
 did.

 For example, Was I too aggressive applying my First Person
 Ontology
   test
 to those I interacted with? Or, Was my irony appropriate, or
   insincere.
 These might be some areas to consider. I really don't know. I am
 just
 throwing them out for suggestions.

 We're here for you Robin. We can get through this.

  We are good now, I think, Steve.
 
  Robin







   
  
  
  
 

  



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-15 Thread Emily Reyn
Steve:  I was being sincere - you really have been laying down some funny 
stuff, IMO.   You are never the butt of my joke.  I almost always laugh in the 
spirit of the moment and never with mean intention - and I'm quite serious 
about that.  I laugh at the human condition and our attempts to communicate 
with each other and I do it so that I don't grieve too hard when things are 
tough.  I should really get a volunteer position as I've already filled out the 
application - I just have to make the call.  

I don't always explain the way I interpret FFL and I probably won't.  I run it 
through a lot of different filters some days.  Which means that I 
misinterpret at times on purpose for a different effect - easy to do with 
words on paper. And it is well known now, thanks to Share, that I have a 
creepy sense of humor.  And I am a TM imbecile.  

And I wasn't feeling particularly up today, if truth be told, so I really 
appreciated your posts.  And, I love a good beer.  Had to give it up when I was 
diagnosed as gluten intolerant, but I'm going to cheat after what Emptybill 
posted today.   Emily




 From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 6:04 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
stooopid
 

  
whether Emily was being sincere or making fun of me, I really don't care.  If 
I can be the butt of her joke, so be it.
(and yes, I need to check out the link)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote:

 If you ever figure out why Emily is laughing, Steve, you'll be where Ted 
 wrote about sex with Sylvia.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
 
  Ahh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haahh ha ha ha ha ha ha 
  ahah ha ha ha ha ha. Steve, I don't know what is up for you, 
  but you are really making me laugh these days.  A ha ha ha ha ha ha 
  ha ha...
  
  
  
  
   From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 2:18 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
  stooopid
   
  
    
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ 
  wrote:
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ 
   wrote:
   
   You always read me perfectly, Steve, and I am loving it. And you have 
   been more merciful than most here--I don't like people criticizing 
   me--but you, you say something nice when you do this (put me in a 
   better place). And believe me, Steve: this makes all the difference.
   
   I am trying to 'get' your philosophy; I think you are trying to teach 
   it to me indirectly--through anecdotes like the ones in this post. I 
   think this an efficacious way to get your wisdom to go right into me, 
   Steve.
   
   I will let you know (through my deeds) the progress I am making. Don't 
   ever give up on me. I need your help--AND your love.
  
   Make a daily journal.  We'll call it Robin's Daily Journal.  Make a 
  list of the things you hope to accomplish in a given day, and maybe some 
  personality traits to which you want to pay a little closer attention. 
   And then at the end of the day, you can write about how you feel you 
  did.  
  
  
  For example, Was I too aggressive applying my First Person Ontology 
  test to those I interacted with?  Or, Was my irony appropriate, or 
  insincere.  These might be some areas to consider.  I really don't 
  know.  I am just throwing them out for suggestions.  
  
  
  We're here for you Robin. We can get through this.
  
   We are good now, I think, Steve.
   
   Robin 
  
  
   
  
  
 


 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which smartphone are you going to buy?

2012-09-21 Thread Bhairitu
On 09/21/2012 12:25 AM, card wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
 On 09/20/2012 02:44 PM, card wrote:
 http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/09/iphone5-spec-showdown/


 I paid $350 for the Nexus.  Unlocked the Galaxy III is $600-$800.  I
 don't think you can get an iPhone 5 unlocked.  Microsoft must have sent
 out an email to their employees to vote for the Lumia (or Nokia did).
 Business is war these days.

 Yeah, I agree. I think the Lumia 920 shall fail for at least
 two reasons: it's way too heavy (185 grams; iPhone 5, 114 grams), and perhaps 
 even too wide for many people (~ 70 millimetres; iPhone ~ 60 millimetres?). 
 Of course, the camera of the Lumia is superb, but
 that's prolly not enough.

   And as a Nokia share holder, I'm afraid Windoze Phone 8 shall be
 a disaster...

 BTW, just recommended my sister to buy a Macbook(?), instead of a PC laptop!

The camera is nice on my Galaxy Nexus but it can't begin to compare with 
my $200 Canon.  On a camera you want optical zoom not digital which just 
blows up the pixels and a lot more control over what you're shooting.  
In a pinch these phones will take some great video but still not as well 
as if you have a dedicated camera with you.

Windows 8 is an also ran.  Android has over a 1/2 billion installs.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which smartphone are you going to buy?

2012-09-21 Thread Bhairitu
On 09/21/2012 11:07 AM, card wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
 On 09/21/2012 12:25 AM, card wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 On 09/20/2012 02:44 PM, card wrote:
 http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/09/iphone5-spec-showdown/


 I paid $350 for the Nexus.  Unlocked the Galaxy III is $600-$800.  I
 don't think you can get an iPhone 5 unlocked.  Microsoft must have sent
 out an email to their employees to vote for the Lumia (or Nokia did).
 Business is war these days.

 Yeah, I agree. I think the Lumia 920 shall fail for at least
 two reasons: it's way too heavy (185 grams; iPhone 5, 114 grams), and 
 perhaps even too wide for many people (~ 70 millimetres; iPhone ~ 60 
 millimetres?). Of course, the camera of the Lumia is superb, but
 that's prolly not enough.

And as a Nokia share holder, I'm afraid Windoze Phone 8 shall be
 a disaster...

 BTW, just recommended my sister to buy a Macbook(?), instead of a PC laptop!
 The camera is nice on my Galaxy Nexus but it can't begin to compare with
 my $200 Canon.  On a camera you want optical zoom not digital which just
 blows up the pixels and a lot more control over what you're shooting.
 In a pinch these phones will take some great video but still not as well
 as if you have a dedicated camera with you.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pureview#Pureview_Pro_camera

 Furthermore, the world#8217;s largest telecom operator China Mobile Limited 
 (CHL), which covers nearly 75% of Chinese market, also plans to rollout 
 TD-LTE technology in the upcoming months and will be using Nokia-Siemens 
 technology, which we believe will act as a huge catalyst for growth going 
 forward.

 According to the latest report provided by the Global mobile Suppliers 
 Association (:GSA), out of the total 11 TD-LTE commercially deployed by the 
 telecom carriers, 5 are using Nokia-Siemens Networks#8217; equipments.

 Taking all these factors into consideration we believe that Nokia#8217;s 
 this particular segment will register impressive results in the upcoming 
 quarters.

 Phew?! :-]



 Windows 8 is an also ran.  Android has over a 1/2 billion installs.




I haven't even looked into Windows mobile development but for awhile you 
had to have the full Visual Studio not just their free version. I think 
someone said they dropped back to the free version. Android, OTOH, 
accommodates development for free on Windows, Mac and Linux and probably 
about anything else you can get Java on.  How to make money on mobile 
platforms is a headache though as people want it all free even if it has 
ads.  But you can't buy a new Porsche with ad revenue. :-D





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which will you buy?

2012-09-17 Thread Bhairitu
On 09/17/2012 06:08 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote:

 http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/09/iphone5-spec-showdown/

 Whoa! Guess I'll keep my Nokia shares at least for a while, after all...

 Out of those, I'd buy the Galaxy S3. I bought a Galaxy S2 a few months ago, 
 and I'm delighted with it. But, I'm not so thrilled that Samsung keeps making 
 their phones bigger and bigger; the S3 is bigger than the S2, and the S4 is 
 supposedly going to be even bigger still. I want a phone that fits in my 
 pocket, even when it's in a protective case.



The Galaxy Nexus has a 4.6 screen and with an Otterbox case still fits 
in my pockets but that's not the way I carry them as I use the holster 
instead.  Maybe look at a different case because the holster overlaps 
the phone jack. :-(

I like the larger screen but there are plenty of smaller ones but I 
suppose stuck in the boonies you can't exactly window shop like I can 
at places like Fry's or Best Buy.  The nice thing about the larger 
screen (and higher resolution) is that I watched a Netflix movie on it 
last night which might not have been as enjoyable on a smaller screen.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which will you buy?

2012-09-17 Thread Bhairitu
On 09/17/2012 07:39 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:

 Whoa! Guess I'll keep my Nokia shares at least for a
 while, after all...

 Alex Stanley:
 Out of those, I'd buy the Galaxy S3...

 It all depends on what you need a phone for. Since I'm at
 a computer desk all day I don't need much else to
 communicate. Almost any phone will send and recieve phone
 calls if I step out to the parking lot for a break. And,
 almost any smartphones can browse the internet for mail
 and snap a photo.

 It all boils down to security - how much are employees
 allowed to use on the company network for their personal
 communications.

 Actually, I find cell phones to be a distraction and I
 don't like talking on phones, unless it's an emergencey.
 That said, if I get another phone it will probably be the
 Nokia Lumia 920 for the camera and video capabilities.

 'Why Android has a reason to be paranoid'
 http://tinyurl.com/99bl3hv

 A Windows tablet that works seamlessly with Microsoft's
 Exchange email system and Office applications would be a
 godsend for corporate technology managers, who have been
 bending over backward to put their CEO's iPads --
 'executive jewelry,' as one analyst puts it -- onto their
 company's email and security systems.

 'Microsoft unveils Windows 8 for public test'
 http://tinyurl.com/82pqg7e

 With the rise of texting, instant chat and transcription
 apps, more people are ditching the venerable tool that
 once revolutionized the telephone business, displaced
 armies of secretaries and allowed us to eat dinner more
 or less in peace. The behavioral shift is occurring in
 tandem with the irreversible fading of voice calls in
 general, prompting more wireless carriers to offer
 unlimited voice minutes.

 'The Death of Voicemail?'
 http://tinyurl.com/8rc3dz8



Bingo!  That's why the newer low cost plans with less phone minutes and 
higher data bandwidth.  I had 450 anytime minutes with Verizon but used 
only 30-40 minutes a month and rarely every around 60.  I was paying $40 
for those minutes and another $30 for the data.  The new plan only has 
100 minutes of talk, unlimited texting and 5GB of data.  My data use was 
often only around 1/2 GB a month but depending on what I'm doing I might 
use more.  Netflix is watched on the phone via wifi anyway and in fact 
their new app has setting to just use wifi.  The new phone also won't 
use carrier data if I'm connected to wifi.  BTW, the data plan is no 
contract, just month to month.  So I can drop it anytime or change the 
plan.

Not everyone needs a smartphone but they're getting cheaper and plans 
cheaper so more people are getting them.  Android is way outselling 
everything else.  That's why Apple and Microsoft are pissed.  But 
they're old world business plans with closed source software.  Unless 
they change they're doomed.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which will you buy?

2012-09-17 Thread Bhairitu
On 09/17/2012 09:54 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:


 I like the larger screen but there are plenty of smaller ones but I
 suppose stuck in the boonies you can't exactly window shop like I
 can at places like Fry's or Best Buy.
 Out here, ATT is all about fewer bars in rural places. Verizon's coverage is 
 good, but US Cellular has absolute blanket coverage out here, and their 
 customer service is great; we've been with US Cellular for about 16 years, 
 and we're not about to change. They were a little slow to hop on the Android 
 bandwagon, but they're up to speed now. If I'd waited a few months, I'd could 
 have gotten an S3 instead of an S2, but the HTC Desire's running out of app 
 space was driving me crazy.



US Cellular appears to be a mid-west only service.  I can't even access 
their web page which is a bit odd.  I got my first cellphone in 1993 and 
then there were few carriers and I was on Cellular One, an early west 
coast company.   They got bought by ATT Wireless who got bought by 
Cingular and then ATT bought Cingular.  These companies are all run by 
the get rich quick types or what we used to call the gold rush 
mentality.  They're often salesmen who gambled on an emerging technology 
even if they don't really understand it.  Many of those types are CEOs.  
Good reason why the Hindus made them the third rung on the caste system. 
:-D

3G and 4G are built on the back of WiMax which is a wide area broadband 
that was designed to bring broadband to rural areas, farms, etc where 
laying fiber or even phone lines wouldn't work.  It is part of why 
analog TVs went dark because those lower channels are being used by 
companies and emergency networks now.  Those lower frequencies propagate 
better over wide areas than the higher UHF frequencies.  That's why one 
could often get VHF channels 2-6 with just rabbit ears.

At the house I mainly get E on the phone which means Edge and on 
some phones will say 3G.  4G shows up as H for HSPA and I do sometimes 
see that.   If I had the tower right behind as there should be by now it 
would be H all the time.  The acid test was going on my walk in the 
neighborhood and even with 3G there was no dropouts on the streams when 
I occasionally would get them on a walk using Verizon.  The neighbors 
were worried about kids playing near the towers while they are probably 
irradiating them more with their wifi routers in their homes. :-D

If you want to talk about large phones, my nephew's company got a cell 
phone in 1984 when they were the new thing.  I recall attending his 
brothers wedding here and my nephew had this box with phone handset, 
antenna and a handle on it.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is the most afflictive emotion?

2012-04-13 Thread Vaj


On Apr 13, 2012, at 10:38 AM, turquoiseb wrote:


But then we see the same thing every day on Internet
forums, to a lesser degree. Someone gets their buttons
pushed because someone else doesn't recognize them as
the authority they think themselves to be, or because
the other person sees them differently than they want
to be seen, and they go essentially bat shit crazy behind
it. It's not uncommon for grudges based on such exposures
to cognitive dissonance to turn into decades-long vendettas.


Having a mind stuck in reference points ties up huge amounts of  
energy. Then to top that off with a habit of withdrawing from the  
world and dividing oneself, all the while imagining that light trance  
states somehow unify you, and it just exacerbates the problem.  
Maintaining reference points separates us from the whole and we lose  
the direct experience of life.


Well, all that energy has to go somewhere. And apparently any  
convenient target will do.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is the most afflictive emotion?

2012-04-13 Thread Vaj


On Apr 13, 2012, at 1:12 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:


It is rare that anyone ever encounters a life
threatening encounter with an adversary. And, TM does
not include avoiding taking action in an emergency,
or harboring revenge thoughts.

If you two are going to dialog here about TM, you
need to get real and stop all the fibbing!



I was actually basing my response on a real situation where a senior  
TM practitioner at MUM had the opportunity to save a life, but  
instead decided to go meditate. An MUM student paid for his life  
because of it.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is the most afflictive emotion?

2012-04-13 Thread Vaj

On Apr 13, 2012, at 3:47 PM, sparaig wrote:

 The wording is such that it implied that the guy realized that the kid was 
 going to commit a murder and chose to meditate instead.

Methinks you be, uh, spinning my intended meaning not just a ‘little bit’ there 
Lawson.

 
 Very unimpressive spin on the spin there, Unc. Unc, I now realize, is short 
 for Uncool.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is the most afflictive emotion?

2012-04-13 Thread Vaj

On Apr 13, 2012, at 4:02 PM, turquoiseb wrote:

 No Lawson, not at all. I saw Vaj's language as what
 I believe it was, the suggestion of a far greater
 failing. 


Precisely my point.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching has the worst karma?

2009-08-02 Thread Vaj


On Aug 1, 2009, at 11:37 PM, BillyG. wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 snip
  Well of course mindfulness of mantra or 'waiting for
  the mantra' is a natural and important part of TM.

 Goodness only knows where you came up with that.
 Waiting for the mantra has never been a part of
 the TM practice I was instructed in.

I think she's got ya there Vaj, where did you get the idea that TM  
involved 'waiting for the mantra'? On the contrary whenever you  
realize you're not repeating the mantra (during meditation) you  
effortlessly come back to it, you don't wait for IT to  
starthu.


She needs to get checked them.

In TM instruction and checking it's referred to as the right start of  
mantra, meaning the correct start of mantra. Judy's using effort if  
she's doing it any other way, not that I'm surprised. She seems to be  
an effortful kind of person.


Did you notice that the mantra came effortlessly? This is just the  
right start of the mantra -- effortless thinking. Now close the eyes  
and take it as it comes.


Only if the mantra does not begin on it's own do we consciously  
introduce the mantra.



And of course, the other aspect of mindfulness in TM is remembering to  
come back to the mantra when you get lost in thoughts. If you have no  
mindfulness, you'd sit there lost in thoughts your entire session.  
There was actually one person on this list who was so worried about  
reintroducing on the mantra volitionally, he actually believed he was  
practicing TM correctly if he sat in thoughts the whole session,  
waiting for the mantra to effortlessly come up 'like any thought!'  
When it didn't, he just continued to sit there!


TMers that lack this natural mindfulness won't make good TMers IMO,  
because reacquisition of mantra will never become automatic. It's just  
too languid of a technique for those types of people. That's why for  
simple mantra meditation, it's always important to give a range of  
mantra recitation techniques. 'It's about the person, not the  
technique'. Techniques or methods are always relative.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching has the worst karma?

2009-08-02 Thread Vaj


On Aug 2, 2009, at 10:33 AM, BillyG. wrote:

 And of course, the other aspect of mindfulness in TM is  
remembering to
 come back to the mantra when you get lost in thoughts. If you have  
no

 mindfulness, you'd sit there lost in thoughts your entire session.
 There was actually one person on this list who was so worried about
 reintroducing on the mantra volitionally, he actually believed he  
was

 practicing TM correctly if he sat in thoughts the whole session,
 waiting for the mantra to effortlessly come up 'like any thought!'
 When it didn't, he just continued to sit there!

 TMers that lack this natural mindfulness won't make good TMers IMO,
 because reacquisition of mantra will never become automatic. It's  
just

 too languid of a technique for those types of people. That's why for
 simple mantra meditation, it's always important to give a range of
 mantra recitation techniques. 'It's about the person, not the
 technique'. Techniques or methods are always relative.

I don't think MMY has ever, to my knowledge, used the term, wait  
for the mantra in any context.


Not sure what his exact words were. The point is it's a process called  
monitoring. Whenever you are monitoring practice, in allowing the  
mantra to come or in having the overarching awareness to return easily  
to the mantra, this is smriti or mindfulness.


Thus one can see why Hicks finds mindfulness so helpful in his direct  
experience.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching has the worst karma?

2009-08-01 Thread Vaj


On Aug 1, 2009, at 12:55 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:


Barry is, of course, completely correct in his analysis below.

As I've written here many times, the change of course that MMY took  
was what was responsible for the death of the TM Movement...AND IT  
CONTINUES TO THIS DAY.


And I remember that, ironically, it was Charlie Lutes who warned MMY  
(I'm sure there must have been dozens more!) that coming out with  
the Sidhis and the flying in the way he did would destroy the  
movement. I think that's either in Paul Mason's book or Nancy Cooke  
de Herrera's book, ironically titled Beyond Gurus, which is what  
TM was SUPPOSED to be about.


Back in '76 before the change took place, the TMO was on track to  
initiating millions. That ALL came to a grinding halt with the  
sidhis and the flying. One wonders where we'd be today if things had  
been done differently...or, rather, by the same formula that got  
them the original success.


My big complaint is that as one who subscribes to the ORIGINAL TM  
path, that there is virtually no support for people like me in the  
TMO. And I suppose that's okay because it's supposed to be a do it  
yourself program.



Have you checked the aluminum foil on that southern door lately? It  
sounds like it may be a bit loose, and causing your MIU brainwashing  
to get a tad dirty!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching has the worst karma?

2009-08-01 Thread Vaj


On Aug 1, 2009, at 9:37 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:


  Which brainwashing, specifically, are you referring to, Vaj?

 The core ideas and ideals that were unique to the TM Org and were
 inculcated at MIU; those which constitute the core of the TM  
cultus. I
 was not being specific. Was there some that you felt specifically  
like

 talking about? Which ones have you been able to stand back from
 objectively?


Vaj, you're the one who made the observation/accusation. Therefore,  
the onus is on YOU to come up with examples of what you are  
referring to.


If you can't, then put up or shut up.



Well you've ALREADY told us (numerous times) that some of the adjuncts  
to TM that M. insisted we all use to enliven our experience of Pure  
Consciousness, many (all?) of these you felt were unessential  
additions (Ayurvedic remedies, herbal purification regimes, Vedic  
architecture, jyotish, yagyas, etc., etc.). What had staying power  
in your SCI/Unified field-based college education and what did not? Do  
other old TB grads still talk to you after you have expressed you TM  
purist ideas or do you avoid rejecting aspects of M's teaching in  
front of them for fear they might (as Rick recently described) sever  
all contact with you?


I'm curious how an old time MIU'er integrates that part of old-time,  
hay day TM Org thinking and indoctrination with their current life.


I've always found your TM/mantra-yoga purism nicely refreshing and  
positive. What were you able to take with you from you SCI/Quantum  
mechanical/Vedic science indoctrinations that were at the same level  
as your appreciation for pure TM practice...and what was not useful?


Perhaps this is too personal a question.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching has the worst karma?

2009-08-01 Thread It's just a ride
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 3:11 PM, satvadude108no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 When I took instruction in Mindfullness meditation in '07
 I arbitrarily decided to discontinue my TM. The seeds of
 the old brainwashing still have some life I guess. A few
 months ago, about a year after Mindfullness instruction,
 I began TM again. Practicing them both is neither a strain
 nor a conflict and I realize now that a hiatus of one to learn
 the other was completely unnecessary. I can't quite put my
 finger on it, but there is something very complimentary about
 TM and mindfullness/vipassana practice. As I continue my
 practice I expect that my feelings about that will clarify itself.
 I am glad I have both.


IMO Mindfullness meditation is a bit like the first Chopra technique,
the one where the mantra comes out of the heart and then during lie
down you feel the bliss in the body.  After having meditated and
performed TMSP for a long time, the habit of taking it as it comes and
going back to the mantra/self is firmly ingrained.  From there you
just have to decide if you're going to think the mantra/be aware of
the self (TM/TMSP) or be mindful and pull yourself back when you get
pulled away from being mindful.   Being an expert in TM/TMSP
technique, mindfulness comes so easily and naturally.

Mindfullness does complement TM/TMSP.  You're always trying to get
away from yourself and drop into the Self with TM/TMSP.  TM/TMSP is
all about constriction.  It's refreshing to just be, just let
sensations, thoughts and emotions be.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching has the worst karma?

2009-08-01 Thread Vaj


On Aug 1, 2009, at 10:14 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:


 On Aug 1, 2009, at 9:37 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:

Which brainwashing, specifically, are you referring to, Vaj?
  
   The core ideas and ideals that were unique to the TM Org and  
were

   inculcated at MIU; those which constitute the core of the TM
  cultus. I
   was not being specific. Was there some that you felt  
specifically

  like
   talking about? Which ones have you been able to stand back from
   objectively?
  
 
  Vaj, you're the one who made the observation/accusation.  
Therefore,

  the onus is on YOU to come up with examples of what you are
  referring to.
 
  If you can't, then put up or shut up.


 Well you've ALREADY told us (numerous times) that some of the  
adjuncts
 to TM that M. insisted we all use to enliven our experience of  
Pure

 Consciousness, many (all?) of these you felt were unessential
 additions (Ayurvedic remedies, herbal purification regimes,  
Vedic

 architecture, jyotish, yagyas, etc., etc.). What had staying power
 in your SCI/Unified field-based college education and what did not?

Did you read my entire post?

I answered that already. See the three points I gave as to why I  
think TM is great and why I started.


Yes I did read it.



 Do
 other old TB grads still talk to you after you have expressed you  
TM

 purist ideas or do you avoid rejecting aspects of M's teaching in
 front of them for fear they might (as Rick recently described) sever
 all contact with you?

Again, I answered that. Read the post.


You said they were 180 degrees apart and you had been ostracized. I  
guess I'm to take it that they won't even talk to you any more?


How childish. You're one of the few reasonable TM folks on this list.


 I'm curious how an old time MIU'er integrates that part of old-time,
 hay day TM Org thinking and indoctrination with their current  
life.


I meditate twice a day and then go into activity...and do what I  
want to do, eat what I want, and take political positions that I  
want...NOT what the TMO dictates.


Can't say that's true for the TBers.


It is a sad thing. Politics should be left up to the individual.




 I've always found your TM/mantra-yoga purism nicely refreshing and
 positive. What were you able to take with you from you SCI/Quantum
 mechanical/Vedic science indoctrinations that were at the same level
 as your appreciation for pure TM practice...and what was not useful?

 Perhaps this is too personal a question.


The SCI stuff was reasonably useful, although most of it was common  
sense that was covered in 3 days checking and follow-up courses AND  
was just common sense.


The quantum mechanical stuff, again, was obvious and didn't do much  
for me because it was just analogies and they never seemed to go  
past that.


MIU was a nice experience in that all the students were really  
lively intellectually and the fact that they all meditated -- as  
well as faculty and staff -- I genuinely feel created an atmosphere  
of learning that was pretty great. Compared to other schools I went  
to and the learning atmospheres compared, MIUM was, hands down,  
superior to other places I attended.


Well it probably had a lot to do with the caliber of people it  
attracted, and what they were capable of excepting a part of their  
reality.




But I did NOT like the block system, which I believe is a total  
failure and should be dropped at once by MUM, and I don't think the  
SCI application to everything is very useful, either. That should  
all happen automaticly. That is, definitely take the primary SCI  
course (although its twice as long and twice as boring as it has to  
be) and that along with regular TM practise should be enough for the  
student to apply to ANY subject he is studying, whether at MIU or  
any other school.


I'm surprised at this. I assume you mean the one course at a time  
thing. Personally I found the trimester superior to the semester, so I  
always thought that the one course at a time thing would be superior  
to either of the above. I HATE having had to take more than one thing  
at a time: give it all to me, as quickly as you can, as soon as you  
can. Anything less than that is inferior. To me it seemed like MIU was  
providing the best learning method out there, esp. given my image of  
TM as increasing attention span (at the time, late 70's).


And, yes, I did feel stifled and held back from questioning my  
teachers in the way I would have done at another school. But this  
was more a function of the fact that I was a TM teacher and, as  
such, felt obligated to uphold a certain behaviour. In hindsight, it  
was wrong of me to do that. I should have questioned any and all  
things.


Of course you also recognized the fact that you would have been kicked  
out if you had...and you needed to get a degree. Your parents were  
paying a lot of money, etc. You do what you have to do.




In 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching has the worst karma?

2009-08-01 Thread Vaj


On Aug 1, 2009, at 10:30 PM, It's just a ride wrote:

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 3:11 PM,  
satvadude108no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:


 When I took instruction in Mindfullness meditation in '07
 I arbitrarily decided to discontinue my TM. The seeds of
 the old brainwashing still have some life I guess. A few
 months ago, about a year after Mindfullness instruction,
 I began TM again. Practicing them both is neither a strain
 nor a conflict and I realize now that a hiatus of one to learn
 the other was completely unnecessary. I can't quite put my
 finger on it, but there is something very complimentary about
 TM and mindfullness/vipassana practice. As I continue my
 practice I expect that my feelings about that will clarify itself.
 I am glad I have both.


IMO Mindfullness meditation is a bit like the first Chopra technique,
the one where the mantra comes out of the heart and then during lie
down you feel the bliss in the body. After having meditated and
performed TMSP for a long time, the habit of taking it as it comes and
going back to the mantra/self is firmly ingrained. From there you
just have to decide if you're going to think the mantra/be aware of
the self (TM/TMSP) or be mindful and pull yourself back when you get
pulled away from being mindful. Being an expert in TM/TMSP
technique, mindfulness comes so easily and naturally.

Mindfullness does complement TM/TMSP. You're always trying to get
away from yourself and drop into the Self with TM/TMSP. TM/TMSP is
all about constriction. It's refreshing to just be, just let
sensations, thoughts and emotions be.



Well of course mindfulness of mantra or 'waiting for the mantra' is a  
natural and important part of TM. IMO what has squelched the  
development of mindfulness in TM is NOT the lack of mindfulness in the  
technique, but instead the institutionalization of the fear of not  
being effortless.


Of course it's also important to point out that mindfulness and  
calmness/transcendence/shamatha are different meditative processes and  
different ways of working with consciousness/mind. From the POV of  
Buddhist meditation, they are not ultimately separate and definitely  
not exclusive but can actually be unified--the union of transcendence  
and mindfulness--which for some paths is the perfect gateway to a  
nondual pointing-out.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: which guru best?

2009-06-04 Thread alex52556
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:26 AM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley  Bottom line, if you
 don't want your country of origin to be revealed, DON'T FUCKING POST YOUR IP
 ADDRESS ON FFL!!!

 I am not the only one nor the first to react to you posting this
 information here. That you are some kind of computer-nerd is your problem,
 not mine. You're an idiot.


Nabby, it gets better.  Take a look at this:

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:65jyfA3tKuIJ:guruphiliac.blogspot.com/2006/11/maharishi-effect.html+Alex+Stanley+trust+fundcd=1hl=enct=clnkgl=us

or

http://tinyurl.com/qeyftn


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: which guru best?

2009-06-03 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jun 2, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:

No, I am not making a list of IP addresses. I am, apparently, the  
only one who knows that it's possible to click View Source on any  
message in the FFL archives and check the header for IP information.  
That information is available to the entire world because the FFL  
archives are public. IF the TMO needs a list of FFLer IP addresses,  
they can damn well compile it themselves.


Alex, I'm still totally clueless as to how to do that.
I can get the long header, and then pull up the
Whois? slot on the Network Utility, but I never know
which # to plug in.  This time, I tried them all...
I think...and didn't see anything about Denmark.
Obviously I have no idea what I'm doing.

Sal



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: which guru best?

2009-06-03 Thread Bhairitu
Sal Sunshine wrote:
 On Jun 2, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:

 No, I am not making a list of IP addresses. I am, apparently, the 
 only one who knows that it's possible to click View Source on any 
 message in the FFL archives and check the header for IP information. 
 That information is available to the entire world because the FFL 
 archives are public. IF the TMO needs a list of FFLer IP addresses, 
 they can damn well compile it themselves.

 Alex, I'm still totally clueless as to how to do that.
 I can get the long header, and then pull up the
 Whois? slot on the Network Utility, but I never know
 which # to plug in.  This time, I tried them all...
 I think...and didn't see anything about Denmark.
 Obviously I have no idea what I'm doing.

 Sal



Unless it is an IP address registered to a company with their own server 
it is hard to tell since most individuals have leased IP not static 
service from their ISP.  Even if an individual has static you only get 
the name of the company that provided it.   Then if someone is using the 
Yahoo Web site you don't get anything other than the Yahoo IP address.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: which guru best?

2009-06-03 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jun 3, 2009, at 1:33 PM, Bhairitu wrote:


Alex, I'm still totally clueless as to how to do that.
I can get the long header, and then pull up the
Whois? slot on the Network Utility, but I never know
which # to plug in.  This time, I tried them all...
I think...and didn't see anything about Denmark.
Obviously I have no idea what I'm doing.

Sal




Unless it is an IP address registered to a company with their own  
server

it is hard to tell since most individuals have leased IP not static
service from their ISP.  Even if an individual has static you only  
get
the name of the company that provided it.   Then if someone is  
using the
Yahoo Web site you don't get anything other than the Yahoo IP  
address.


Well, that's what I thought...
but I'm still wondering how
Alex knew it was from Denmark.

Sal



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