Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-27 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Reagan wasn't anti- government, just limited government as were the founding 
fathers. The more authority you give government, the less freedom you have as 
an individual. 
The idea that the uber wealthy don't work is the real fantasy. Some people work 
by the sweat of their brow, others with their intelligence and creativity. 
There is only so much a human body can do but the mind is limitless. The 
wealthy are starving the country? Please, they do more with their wealth to 
make your and my life better. They invent and manufacture things that make our 
lives easier all the time. They pay more in taxes yearly than you and I pay in 
a life time!
As for the capitalist system, it has generated more wealth and brought more 
people out of poverty than any other economic system in history.
Funny how Russia and China abandoned their centralized planned economies for 
capitalism and have become prosperous beyond belief and in such a short time.
  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 9:54 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
   
    I am advocating nothing of the sort. I don't begrudge the 
multi-billionaires, nor do I advocate taking away their money. I create wealth 
for others too, every time I consume a product or service, but that doesn't 
give me the right to pay fewer taxes. 
All of the anti-government rhetoric started by Reagan really leaves me cold 
too. This fantasy that the titans of industry and uber-wealthy who never work, 
are somehow smarter, and able to make better decisions for all of us, by 
starving the country they depend on, is something that has been tried 
throughout recorded history, and it didn't work any better then than it does 
now.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

They already pay/do their *fair share*! Not only do they pay taxes but they 
also invest in other businesses, creating more jobs, which in turn creates more 
tax payers but they also provide capital  for others. They also contribute to 
charities, if not out of interest in helping others, then out of their own 
desire to reduce their own tax burden or *greed* as you would put it. They get 
to choose who they want to help with their tax deductions. Their money isn't 
just sitting in a vault doing nothing except collecting dust. The reason people 
who are predisposed to getting rich get rich, is that they know how to make 
their money work for them and it usually benefits many others as well. They 
generate more wealth, which in the long run benefits everyone. What you're 
advocating is taking their *seed* money and giving it to someone who will do 
little or nothing with. You can eat a hundred percent of your crop or you can 
save some to plant next season and make more. I say let them keep their wealth 
and manage it instead of letting a politician who only wants to buy votes to 
stay in power have it .


  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 2:17 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 Sounds like paranoia, Mike. Remember those old guys who insisted we escalate 
the Vietnam War (or as the Vietnamese call it, "The American War"), so that 
"The Domino Effect" would not occur? Sounds like the same baseless fear; if we 
raise the taxes on the ultra-wealthy, people so rich they couldn't spend their 
fortunes in 2,000 generations, the government will soon want it all. 
Delusional, greedy, and mentally ill. 
They can choose to participate in this country and pay their fair share like 
the rest of us, or be forced to. It is their choice. We'll see how long their 
wealth continues to insulate them from democracy. I am talking about the ones 
who are far, far wealthier than any CEO. Those corporate leaders use tax dodges 
too, but the uber-wealthy even make the multi-millionaires look like paupers. 
Wake up and smell the rip-off.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

And just how many CEO's do this, enough to finance all the programs Bernie 
wants? We're talking about a minuscule number of people out of a population of 
350 million. You could confiscate all of their wealth and not have diddly for 
you guys want. All it amounts to is punishing success, getting even with 
someone who has more than others. Why would anyone work hard and take 
responsibility for a company, it's investors and employees if they were going 
to have the fruits of their labor taken from them?


  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 7:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 Right, for earned income. However on investment in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-27 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I am advocating nothing of the sort. I don't begrudge the multi-billionaires, 
nor do I advocate taking away their money. I create wealth for others too, 
every time I consume a product or service, but that doesn't give me the right 
to pay fewer taxes.  

 All of the anti-government rhetoric started by Reagan really leaves me cold 
too. This fantasy that the titans of industry and uber-wealthy who never work, 
are somehow smarter, and able to make better decisions for all of us, by 
starving the country they depend on, is something that has been tried 
throughout recorded history, and it didn't work any better then than it does 
now. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 They already pay/do their *fair share*! Not only do they pay taxes but they 
also invest in other businesses, creating more jobs, which in turn creates more 
tax payers but they also provide capital  for others. They also contribute to 
charities, if not out of interest in helping others, then out of their own 
desire to reduce their own tax burden or *greed* as you would put it. They get 
to choose who they want to help with their tax deductions. Their money isn't 
just sitting in a vault doing nothing except collecting dust. The reason people 
who are predisposed to getting rich get rich, is that they know how to make 
their money work for them and it usually benefits many others as well. They 
generate more wealth, which in the long run benefits everyone. What you're 
advocating is taking their *seed* money and giving it to someone who will do 
little or nothing with. You can eat a hundred percent of your crop or you can 
save some to plant next season and make more. I say let them keep their wealth 
and manage it instead of letting a politician who only wants to buy votes to 
stay in power have it .

 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 2:17 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 
   Sounds like paranoia, Mike. Remember those old guys who insisted we escalate 
the Vietnam War (or as the Vietnamese call it, "The American War"), so that 
"The Domino Effect" would not occur? Sounds like the same baseless fear; if we 
raise the taxes on the ultra-wealthy, people so rich they couldn't spend their 
fortunes in 2,000 generations, the government will soon want it all. 
Delusional, greedy, and mentally ill. 
 

 They can choose to participate in this country and pay their fair share like 
the rest of us, or be forced to. It is their choice. We'll see how long their 
wealth continues to insulate them from democracy. I am talking about the ones 
who are far, far wealthier than any CEO. Those corporate leaders use tax dodges 
too, but the uber-wealthy even make the multi-millionaires look like paupers. 
Wake up and smell the rip-off. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 And just how many CEO's do this, enough to finance all the programs Bernie 
wants? We're talking about a minuscule number of people out of a population of 
350 million. You could confiscate all of their wealth and not have diddly for 
you guys want. All it amounts to is punishing success, getting even with 
someone who has more than others. Why would anyone work hard and take 
responsibility for a company, it's investors and employees if they were going 
to have the fruits of their labor taken from them?

 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 7:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   Right, for earned income. However on investment income it is 17%. This is 
why many CEO's take a modest or even zero annual income, and a large amount of 
stock options instead. Tax advantage. To say nothing of the many 
multi-billionaires who don't work, deriving all of their income from 
investments. Tax advantage. They don't play by the same rules as the rest of 
us, and we have the most to lose as a result.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 You are aware that the current top bracket on income is about 39%.
 
The 17% you refer to is, I believe, on trading stocks or dividends paid by 
stock holdings.

 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 3:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   The wealthy need to pay an equal  percentage of taxes as the middle class - 
30 to 40 percent of annual income. Of course it sounds like a lot when you say 
70 percent of taxes are contributed by these multi-billionaires, but that would 
only make sense if they were making what we do. Since they make in a month what 
most make in a life-time,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-27 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
They already pay/do their *fair share*! Not only do they pay taxes but they 
also invest in other businesses, creating more jobs, which in turn creates more 
tax payers but they also provide capital  for others. They also contribute to 
charities, if not out of interest in helping others, then out of their own 
desire to reduce their own tax burden or *greed* as you would put it. They get 
to choose who they want to help with their tax deductions. Their money isn't 
just sitting in a vault doing nothing except collecting dust. The reason people 
who are predisposed to getting rich get rich, is that they know how to make 
their money work for them and it usually benefits many others as well. They 
generate more wealth, which in the long run benefits everyone. What you're 
advocating is taking their *seed* money and giving it to someone who will do 
little or nothing with. You can eat a hundred percent of your crop or you can 
save some to plant next season and make more. I say let them keep their wealth 
and manage it instead of letting a politician who only wants to buy votes to 
stay in power have it .


  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 2:17 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
   
    Sounds like paranoia, Mike. Remember those old guys who insisted we 
escalate the Vietnam War (or as the Vietnamese call it, "The American War"), so 
that "The Domino Effect" would not occur? Sounds like the same baseless fear; 
if we raise the taxes on the ultra-wealthy, people so rich they couldn't spend 
their fortunes in 2,000 generations, the government will soon want it all. 
Delusional, greedy, and mentally ill. 
They can choose to participate in this country and pay their fair share like 
the rest of us, or be forced to. It is their choice. We'll see how long their 
wealth continues to insulate them from democracy. I am talking about the ones 
who are far, far wealthier than any CEO. Those corporate leaders use tax dodges 
too, but the uber-wealthy even make the multi-millionaires look like paupers. 
Wake up and smell the rip-off.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

And just how many CEO's do this, enough to finance all the programs Bernie 
wants? We're talking about a minuscule number of people out of a population of 
350 million. You could confiscate all of their wealth and not have diddly for 
you guys want. All it amounts to is punishing success, getting even with 
someone who has more than others. Why would anyone work hard and take 
responsibility for a company, it's investors and employees if they were going 
to have the fruits of their labor taken from them?


  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 7:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 Right, for earned income. However on investment income it is 17%. This is why 
many CEO's take a modest or even zero annual income, and a large amount of 
stock options instead. Tax advantage. To say nothing of the many 
multi-billionaires who don't work, deriving all of their income from 
investments. Tax advantage. They don't play by the same rules as the rest of 
us, and we have the most to lose as a result.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

You are aware that the current top bracket on income is about 39%.

The 17% you refer to is, I believe, on trading stocks or dividends paid by 
stock holdings.


  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 3:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 The wealthy need to pay an equal  percentage of taxes as the middle class - 30 
to 40 percent of annual income. Of course it sounds like a lot when you say 70 
percent of taxes are contributed by these multi-billionaires, but that would 
only make sense if they were making what we do. Since they make in a month what 
most make in a life-time, they can open their pockets a little wider than 17%. 
This idea you promote below, with the poor acting as leeches, is slight-of-hand 
propaganda - don't watch the endless corporate welfare, and crony capitalism, 
and tax evasion, instead focus on someone who is less fortunate, and stigmatize 
them as stealing from us all. Very cynical and anti-social, too. Those 
spreading such thinking are addicted to greed, projecting it on everyone but 
themselves.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Their *fair share*? And who determines what is fair? There we go again, *free* 
stuff! Nothing is free. Would *free* health care and education be enough? Hell 
no! Next it will be housing transport

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-27 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Sounds like paranoia, Mike. Remember those old guys who insisted we escalate 
the Vietnam War (or as the Vietnamese call it, "The American War"), so that 
"The Domino Effect" would not occur? Sounds like the same baseless fear; if we 
raise the taxes on the ultra-wealthy, people so rich they couldn't spend their 
fortunes in 2,000 generations, the government will soon want it all. 
Delusional, greedy, and mentally ill.  

 They can choose to participate in this country and pay their fair share like 
the rest of us, or be forced to. It is their choice. We'll see how long their 
wealth continues to insulate them from democracy. I am talking about the ones 
who are far, far wealthier than any CEO. Those corporate leaders use tax dodges 
too, but the uber-wealthy even make the multi-millionaires look like paupers. 
Wake up and smell the rip-off. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 And just how many CEO's do this, enough to finance all the programs Bernie 
wants? We're talking about a minuscule number of people out of a population of 
350 million. You could confiscate all of their wealth and not have diddly for 
you guys want. All it amounts to is punishing success, getting even with 
someone who has more than others. Why would anyone work hard and take 
responsibility for a company, it's investors and employees if they were going 
to have the fruits of their labor taken from them?

 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 7:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 
   Right, for earned income. However on investment income it is 17%. This is 
why many CEO's take a modest or even zero annual income, and a large amount of 
stock options instead. Tax advantage. To say nothing of the many 
multi-billionaires who don't work, deriving all of their income from 
investments. Tax advantage. They don't play by the same rules as the rest of 
us, and we have the most to lose as a result.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 You are aware that the current top bracket on income is about 39%.
 
The 17% you refer to is, I believe, on trading stocks or dividends paid by 
stock holdings.

 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 3:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   The wealthy need to pay an equal  percentage of taxes as the middle class - 
30 to 40 percent of annual income. Of course it sounds like a lot when you say 
70 percent of taxes are contributed by these multi-billionaires, but that would 
only make sense if they were making what we do. Since they make in a month what 
most make in a life-time, they can open their pockets a little wider than 17%. 
 

 This idea you promote below, with the poor acting as leeches, is 
slight-of-hand propaganda - don't watch the endless corporate welfare, and 
crony capitalism, and tax evasion, instead focus on someone who is less 
fortunate, and stigmatize them as stealing from us all. Very cynical and 
anti-social, too. Those spreading such thinking are addicted to greed, 
projecting it on everyone but themselves.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Their *fair share*? And who determines what is fair? There we go again, *free* 
stuff! Nothing is free. Would *free* health care and education be enough? Hell 
no! Next it will be housing transportation, child care, energy, food, clothing, 
entertainment, drugs etc etc. And will all this stuff is *free* why the hell 
should I have to work? I want free vacation time, 24/7 365! Oh yeah, what's 
free vacation time without free spending money? I want a free master card with 
no limits!

 
 We already have a heavily regulated market and the wealthy *do* pay for 70% of 
the safety net.


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 12:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   No one will actually hand anyone else any money when the rich pay their fair 
share of taxes. Free higher ed and health care would work though. There really 
isn't anything wrong with treating people humanely. If the wealthy insist on an 
unregulated market, then they can damned well provide a safety net for the 
millions of ordinary citizens who regularly fall through the ever more common 
cracks in the economy, by paying their fair share of taxes. Nothing radical 
about it. 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 What do the uber- wealthy have to *give* you so that you can get ahead and be 
prosperous? 
 You can give many people millions of dollars and in a few shor

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
And just how many CEO's do this, enough to finance all the programs Bernie 
wants? We're talking about a minuscule number of people out of a population of 
350 million. You could confiscate all of their wealth and not have diddly for 
you guys want. All it amounts to is punishing success, getting even with 
someone who has more than others. Why would anyone work hard and take 
responsibility for a company, it's investors and employees if they were going 
to have the fruits of their labor taken from them?


  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 7:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
   
    Right, for earned income. However on investment income it is 17%. This is 
why many CEO's take a modest or even zero annual income, and a large amount of 
stock options instead. Tax advantage. To say nothing of the many 
multi-billionaires who don't work, deriving all of their income from 
investments. Tax advantage. They don't play by the same rules as the rest of 
us, and we have the most to lose as a result.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

You are aware that the current top bracket on income is about 39%.

The 17% you refer to is, I believe, on trading stocks or dividends paid by 
stock holdings.


  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 3:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 The wealthy need to pay an equal  percentage of taxes as the middle class - 30 
to 40 percent of annual income. Of course it sounds like a lot when you say 70 
percent of taxes are contributed by these multi-billionaires, but that would 
only make sense if they were making what we do. Since they make in a month what 
most make in a life-time, they can open their pockets a little wider than 17%. 
This idea you promote below, with the poor acting as leeches, is slight-of-hand 
propaganda - don't watch the endless corporate welfare, and crony capitalism, 
and tax evasion, instead focus on someone who is less fortunate, and stigmatize 
them as stealing from us all. Very cynical and anti-social, too. Those 
spreading such thinking are addicted to greed, projecting it on everyone but 
themselves.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Their *fair share*? And who determines what is fair? There we go again, *free* 
stuff! Nothing is free. Would *free* health care and education be enough? Hell 
no! Next it will be housing transportation, child care, energy, food, clothing, 
entertainment, drugs etc etc. And will all this stuff is *free* why the hell 
should I have to work? I want free vacation time, 24/7 365! Oh yeah, what's 
free vacation time without free spending money? I want a free master card with 
no limits!
We already have a heavily regulated market and the wealthy *do* pay for 70% of 
the safety net.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 12:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 No one will actually hand anyone else any money when the rich pay their fair 
share of taxes. Free higher ed and health care would work though. There really 
isn't anything wrong with treating people humanely. If the wealthy insist on an 
unregulated market, then they can damned well provide a safety net for the 
millions of ordinary citizens who regularly fall through the ever more common 
cracks in the economy, by paying their fair share of taxes. Nothing radical 
about it. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

What do the uber- wealthy have to *give* you so that you can get ahead and be 
prosperous? 
You can give many people millions of dollars and in a few short years they are 
broke again.You can't give wisdom or management skills. They are learned.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:56 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 The uber-wealthy share of taxes paid is down to 17% of their income. I never 
paid a tax rate that low. Ever. Considering that they control 25% of the wealth 
of the entire country, they ought to pay much more than 17%. That is obscene. 
And the reason I refer to it mental illness, is that they have cornered not 
only this staggering amount of wealth, but the entire country is now rigged to 
increase their wealth, at our expense. 
We are not talking about a wealth of millions of dollars, a sum that would make 
the rest of us unimaginably rich. No, these are all multi-billionaires. A 
billion dollars is equal to a person living to a hundred years 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-26 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Right, for earned income. However on investment income it is 17%. This is why 
many CEO's take a modest or even zero annual income, and a large amount of 
stock options instead. Tax advantage. To say nothing of the many 
multi-billionaires who don't work, deriving all of their income from 
investments. Tax advantage. They don't play by the same rules as the rest of 
us, and we have the most to lose as a result. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 You are aware that the current top bracket on income is about 39%.
 
The 17% you refer to is, I believe, on trading stocks or dividends paid by 
stock holdings.

 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 3:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 
   The wealthy need to pay an equal  percentage of taxes as the middle class - 
30 to 40 percent of annual income. Of course it sounds like a lot when you say 
70 percent of taxes are contributed by these multi-billionaires, but that would 
only make sense if they were making what we do. Since they make in a month what 
most make in a life-time, they can open their pockets a little wider than 17%. 
 

 This idea you promote below, with the poor acting as leeches, is 
slight-of-hand propaganda - don't watch the endless corporate welfare, and 
crony capitalism, and tax evasion, instead focus on someone who is less 
fortunate, and stigmatize them as stealing from us all. Very cynical and 
anti-social, too. Those spreading such thinking are addicted to greed, 
projecting it on everyone but themselves.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Their *fair share*? And who determines what is fair? There we go again, *free* 
stuff! Nothing is free. Would *free* health care and education be enough? Hell 
no! Next it will be housing transportation, child care, energy, food, clothing, 
entertainment, drugs etc etc. And will all this stuff is *free* why the hell 
should I have to work? I want free vacation time, 24/7 365! Oh yeah, what's 
free vacation time without free spending money? I want a free master card with 
no limits!

 
 We already have a heavily regulated market and the wealthy *do* pay for 70% of 
the safety net.


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 12:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   No one will actually hand anyone else any money when the rich pay their fair 
share of taxes. Free higher ed and health care would work though. There really 
isn't anything wrong with treating people humanely. If the wealthy insist on an 
unregulated market, then they can damned well provide a safety net for the 
millions of ordinary citizens who regularly fall through the ever more common 
cracks in the economy, by paying their fair share of taxes. Nothing radical 
about it. 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 What do the uber- wealthy have to *give* you so that you can get ahead and be 
prosperous? 
 You can give many people millions of dollars and in a few short years they are 
broke again.
 You can't give wisdom or management skills. They are learned.
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:56 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   The uber-wealthy share of taxes paid is down to 17% of their income. I never 
paid a tax rate that low. Ever. Considering that they control 25% of the wealth 
of the entire country, they ought to pay much more than 17%. That is obscene. 
And the reason I refer to it mental illness, is that they have cornered not 
only this staggering amount of wealth, but the entire country is now rigged to 
increase their wealth, at our expense. 
 

 We are not talking about a wealth of millions of dollars, a sum that would 
make the rest of us unimaginably rich. No, these are all multi-billionaires. A 
billion dollars is equal to a person living to a hundred years of age, and 
spending ten million dollars annually, nearly a million bucks a month, from 
infancy. That is just ONE billion. Incomprehensible. 

 Any time there is a bump in the economy, who benefits? The rest of us, who 
haven't seen wages rise in 55 years? Nope. Always the wealthy. 

 We keep hearing from the servants of the rich, the media and politicians, how 
we are a mighty and wealthy country, a world super power, and yet the game is 
now so strongly rigged *against* the efforts of the populace to get ahead, to 
have stable, prosperous lives, that no one is listening. 
 

 This could be easily fixed, by bumping the rate on taxable investments to say, 
30 to 40%, what the middle class typically pays

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-26 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
I chose the example because it was shown in a Frontline report years ago 
as the problem with the Chavez program.


Chavez's administration should have worked out the problem of turning 
over companies to the workers.  Someone still has to manage.  And I 
wouldn't be surprised at all if Chavez knew that. It just didn't get 
implemented.  Unfortunately a lot of supporters of socialistic 
governments are people with just theoretical not practical experience.  
They have a great idea but don't implement it well and it all falls 
down.  Someday it will be done right.


There is a similar problem in training college students for computer 
science.  Most of the professors have not worked in the field so they 
are only teaching theory.  The students are at a loss when they take a 
job and are being short changed if not mentored.  Some companies like 
Google don't seem to like mentoring.  They want some kind of "magic" to 
happen and have the money to waste on a "sandbox."  But if the employee 
doesn't produce they are gone after a year.


On 02/26/2016 02:36 PM, seekliberat...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Hugo Chavez was working at the executive level of decision-making. 
 You can't expect him to pick up on a deficiency in mid-level or 
lower-level management.  That's like Fox News and Sarah Palin trying 
to blame Obama for failures in the VA medical problems that occur 
regularly.



At the end of the day, a society as a whole has to be developed, not 
just the leaderregardless of how ideal or enlightened his ideas seem.


seekliberation.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
What I'm saying is, I'd rather somebody run things that knows what they are 
doing and has good management skills and has proven it. I don't want people 
managing things based on emotion and *their* particular sense of fairness.


  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 4:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
   
 Wasn't TM supposed to be the solution to that?  Of course if you can't 
afford TM then what would be the point?  :-D 
 
 You're saying that only an elite group should run the world?
 
 And... have you ever been a manager?  I have.  Actually a lot of companies 
throw people to the wolves when they make managers.  We do now have some good 
training around but back in the day you had to "fake it." Turned out being a 
leader of a music group helped as well as teaching things.  If I had it to do 
over again I would but be more black and white about expectations.  
 
 On 02/26/2016 02:09 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
     My point was that you can be given the world but if you can't manage your 
own life, you'll be broke again before you know it. Effective management also 
requires discipline, something many people just don't have.
   
 
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 3:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
  
      This is the mistake that Hugo Chavez made.  He turned over businesses 
to the workers but didn't train any of them to be a manager.  You have to find 
the individual who will naturally be good at it and train them.  I would also 
suggest a quick workshop for everyone in the business to find replacements  and 
to keep check on the manager.
 
 What we are moving towards is a society of oligarchs running things and 
everyone else is their servant.  That's very oppressive and should not be 
tolerated in any way whatsoever.
 
 On 02/26/2016 12:15 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
   
    Right, management skills can be learned but require discipline to make  
them effective.
  
 
 From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 10:50 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
  
      Management skills are simple.  They can be taught in a few short  
hours. The balls to apply them is the hard part.  The uber rich are often all  
balls and no reason.  They just plow ahead like Mac  truck slamming through a 
store and  leaving a mess in it's wake.  A massive correction is  needed for 
the big party the uber rich have had and left the hotel room  trashed.
 
 On 02/26/2016 07:05 AM, Mike  Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
   
    What do the uber- wealthy have  to *give* you so that you can get ahead and 
be prosperous? 
 You can give many people millions of dollars and in a few short years they are 
broke again. You can't give wisdom or management skills. They  are learned. 
 
 From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26,  2016 6:56 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife]  Re: very compelling article
  
    The uber-wealthy share of taxes  paid is down to 17% of their income.  
I never paid a tax rate that  low. Ever. Considering that they  control 25% of 
the wealth of  the entire country, they ought to pay  much more than 17%. That 
is  obscene. And the reason I refer to it  mental illness, is that they have 
cornered not only this  staggering amount of wealth, but  the entire country is 
now  rigged to increase their wealth, at our  expense.  
  We are not talking about a wealth  of millions of dollars, a sum that would 
make the rest of us  unimaginably rich. No, these are all  multi-billionaires. 
A billion  dollars is equal to a person living  to a hundred years of age,  and 
spending ten million dollars  annually, nearly a million bucks a month, from 
infancy. That  is just ONE billion. Incomprehensible. 
  Any time there is a bump in the  economy, who benefits? The rest of us, who 
haven't seen wages  rise in 55 years? Nope. Always the  wealthy. 
  We keep hearing from the servants  of the rich, the media and politicians, 
how we are a mighty and  wealthy country, a world super  power, and yet the 
game is  now so strongly rigged  *against* the efforts of the populace to get 
ahead, to have stable,  prosperous lives, that no one is  listening.  
  This could be easily fixed,  by bumping the rate on taxable  investments to 
say, 30 to  40%, what the middle class typically pays  of its stagnan

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-26 Thread seekliberat...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hugo Chavez was working at the executive level of decision-making.  You can't 
expect him to pick up on a deficiency in mid-level or lower-level management.  
That's like Fox News and Sarah Palin trying to blame Obama for failures in the 
VA medical problems that occur regularly.   

 At the end of the day, a society as a whole has to be developed, not just the 
leaderregardless of how ideal or enlightened his ideas seem.
 

 seekliberation.  


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-26 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Wasn't TM supposed to be the solution to that?  Of course if you can't 
afford TM then what would be the point? :-D


You're saying that only an elite group should run the world?

And... have you ever been a manager?  I have.  Actually a lot of 
companies throw people to the wolves when they make managers.  We do now 
have some good training around but back in the day you had to "fake it." 
Turned out being a leader of a music group helped as well as teaching 
things.  If I had it to do over again I would but be more black and 
white about expectations.


On 02/26/2016 02:09 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
My point was that you can be given the world but if you can't manage 
your own life, you'll be broke again before you know it. Effective 
management also requires discipline, something many people just don't 
have.




*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2016 3:11 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

This is the mistake that Hugo Chavez made. He turned over businesses 
to the workers but didn't train any of them to be a manager.  You have 
to find the individual who will naturally be good at it and train 
them.  I would also suggest a quick workshop for everyone in the 
business to find replacements and to keep check on the manager.


What we are moving towards is a society of oligarchs running things 
and everyone else is their servant. That's very oppressive and should 
not be tolerated in any way whatsoever.


On 02/26/2016 12:15 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com 
<mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Right, management skills can be learned but require discipline to 
make them effective.




*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 
<mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net> [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2016 10:50 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

Management skills are simple.  They can be taught in a few short 
hours. The balls to apply them is the hard part. The uber rich are 
often all balls and no reason.  They just plow ahead like Mac truck 
slamming through a store and leaving a mess in it's wake. A massive 
correction is needed for the big party the uber rich have had and 
left the hotel room trashed.


On 02/26/2016 07:05 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com 
<mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote:
What do the uber- wealthy have to *give* you so that you can get 
ahead and be prosperous?
You can give many people millions of dollars and in a few short 
years they are broke again.

You can't give wisdom or management skills. They are learned.



*From:* "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<mailto:olliesed...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife]> 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2016 6:56 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

The uber-wealthy share of taxes paid is down to 17% of their income. 
I never paid a tax rate that low. Ever. Considering that they 
control 25% of the wealth of the entire country, they ought to pay 
much more than 17%. That is obscene. And the reason I refer to it 
mental illness, is that they have cornered not only this staggering 
amount of wealth, but the entire country is now rigged to increase 
their wealth, at our expense.


We are not talking about a wealth of millions of dollars, a sum that 
would make the rest of us unimaginably rich. No, these are all 
multi-billionaires. A billion dollars is equal to a person living to 
a hundred years of age, and spending ten million dollars annually, 
nearly a million bucks a month, from infancy. That is just ONE 
billion. Incomprehensible.


Any time there is a bump in the economy, who benefits? The rest of 
us, who haven't seen wages rise in 55 years? Nope. Always the wealthy.


We keep hearing from the servants of the rich, the media and 
politicians, how we are a mighty and wealthy country, a world super 
power, and yet the game is now so strongly rigged *against* the 
efforts of the populace to get ahead, to have stable, prosperous 
lives, that no one is listening.


This could be easily fixed, by bumping the rate on taxable 
investments to say, 30 to 40%, what the middle class typically pays 
of its stagnant wages to the Feds in taxes. Close some loophole

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You are aware that the current top bracket on income is about 39%.

The 17% you refer to is, I believe, on trading stocks or dividends paid by 
stock holdings.


  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 3:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
   
    The wealthy need to pay an equal  percentage of taxes as the middle class - 
30 to 40 percent of annual income. Of course it sounds like a lot when you say 
70 percent of taxes are contributed by these multi-billionaires, but that would 
only make sense if they were making what we do. Since they make in a month what 
most make in a life-time, they can open their pockets a little wider than 17%. 
This idea you promote below, with the poor acting as leeches, is slight-of-hand 
propaganda - don't watch the endless corporate welfare, and crony capitalism, 
and tax evasion, instead focus on someone who is less fortunate, and stigmatize 
them as stealing from us all. Very cynical and anti-social, too. Those 
spreading such thinking are addicted to greed, projecting it on everyone but 
themselves.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Their *fair share*? And who determines what is fair? There we go again, *free* 
stuff! Nothing is free. Would *free* health care and education be enough? Hell 
no! Next it will be housing transportation, child care, energy, food, clothing, 
entertainment, drugs etc etc. And will all this stuff is *free* why the hell 
should I have to work? I want free vacation time, 24/7 365! Oh yeah, what's 
free vacation time without free spending money? I want a free master card with 
no limits!
We already have a heavily regulated market and the wealthy *do* pay for 70% of 
the safety net.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 12:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 No one will actually hand anyone else any money when the rich pay their fair 
share of taxes. Free higher ed and health care would work though. There really 
isn't anything wrong with treating people humanely. If the wealthy insist on an 
unregulated market, then they can damned well provide a safety net for the 
millions of ordinary citizens who regularly fall through the ever more common 
cracks in the economy, by paying their fair share of taxes. Nothing radical 
about it. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

What do the uber- wealthy have to *give* you so that you can get ahead and be 
prosperous? 
You can give many people millions of dollars and in a few short years they are 
broke again.You can't give wisdom or management skills. They are learned.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:56 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 The uber-wealthy share of taxes paid is down to 17% of their income. I never 
paid a tax rate that low. Ever. Considering that they control 25% of the wealth 
of the entire country, they ought to pay much more than 17%. That is obscene. 
And the reason I refer to it mental illness, is that they have cornered not 
only this staggering amount of wealth, but the entire country is now rigged to 
increase their wealth, at our expense. 
We are not talking about a wealth of millions of dollars, a sum that would make 
the rest of us unimaginably rich. No, these are all multi-billionaires. A 
billion dollars is equal to a person living to a hundred years of age, and 
spending ten million dollars annually, nearly a million bucks a month, from 
infancy. That is just ONE billion. Incomprehensible.
Any time there is a bump in the economy, who benefits? The rest of us, who 
haven't seen wages rise in 55 years? Nope. Always the wealthy.
We keep hearing from the servants of the rich, the media and politicians, how 
we are a mighty and wealthy country, a world super power, and yet the game is 
now so strongly rigged *against* the efforts of the populace to get ahead, to 
have stable, prosperous lives, that no one is listening. 
This could be easily fixed, by bumping the rate on taxable investments to say, 
30 to 40%, what the middle class typically pays of its stagnant wages to the 
Feds in taxes. Close some loopholes too. I am not asking the one percent to 
contribute unfairly, only to the degree that the rest of us do. There should 
not be this unspoken rule, that once we achieve a certain level of wealth, we 
are then above the law. The truly galling thing about this, is the rich would 
never miss it, wouldn't even notice.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

The wealthy pay less in taxes? C'mon now! The top 10% pay 70% of tax r

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
My point was that you can be given the world but if you can't manage your own 
life, you'll be broke again before you know it. Effective management also 
requires discipline, something many people just don't have.


  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 3:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
   
 This is the mistake that Hugo Chavez made.  He turned over businesses to 
the workers but didn't train any of them to be a manager.  You have to find the 
individual who will naturally be good at it and train them.  I would also 
suggest a quick workshop for everyone in the business to find replacements and 
to keep check on the manager.
 
 What we are moving towards is a society of oligarchs running things and 
everyone else is their servant.  That's very oppressive and should not be 
tolerated in any way whatsoever.
 
 On 02/26/2016 12:15 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
    Right, management skills can be learned but require discipline to make them 
effective.
  
 
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 10:50 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
  
      Management skills are simple.  They can be taught in a few short 
hours. The balls to apply them is the hard part.  The uber rich are often all 
balls and no reason.  They just plow ahead like Mac truck slamming through a 
store and leaving a mess in it's wake.  A massive correction is needed for the 
big party the uber rich have had and left the hotel room trashed.
 
 On 02/26/2016 07:05 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
   
    What do the uber- wealthy have to *give* you so that you can get  ahead and 
be prosperous? 
 You can give many people millions of dollars and in a  few short years they 
are broke again. You can't give wisdom or management skills. They are learned. 
 
 From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:56 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
  
    The uber-wealthy share of taxes  paid is down to 17% of their income.  
I never paid a tax rate that  low. Ever. Considering that they  control 25% of 
the wealth of  the entire country, they ought to pay  much more than 17%. That 
is  obscene. And the reason I refer to it  mental illness, is that they have 
cornered not only this  staggering amount of wealth, but  the entire country is 
now  rigged to increase their wealth, at our  expense.  
  We are not talking about a wealth  of millions of dollars, a sum that would 
make the rest of us  unimaginably rich. No, these are all  multi-billionaires. 
A billion  dollars is equal to a person living  to a hundred years of age,  and 
spending ten million dollars  annually, nearly a million bucks a month, from 
infancy. That  is just ONE billion. Incomprehensible. 
  Any time there is a bump in the  economy, who benefits? The rest of us, who 
haven't seen wages  rise in 55 years? Nope. Always the  wealthy. 
  We keep hearing from the servants  of the rich, the media and politicians, 
how we are a mighty and  wealthy country, a world super  power, and yet the 
game is  now so strongly rigged  *against* the efforts of the populace to get 
ahead, to have stable,  prosperous lives, that no one is  listening.  
  This could be easily fixed,  by bumping the rate on taxable  investments to 
say, 30 to  40%, what the middle class typically pays  of its stagnant wages  
to the Feds in taxes. Close some loopholes  too. I am not asking the one  
percent to contribute unfairly, only  to the degree that the rest of us do. 
There should not be this  unspoken rule, that once we achieve a certain level 
of wealth, we  are then above the law. The truly galling thing about this, is 
the  rich would never miss it, wouldn't even  notice.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
 
   The wealthy pay less in taxes?  C'mon now! The top 10% pay 70% of tax 
revenues. The remaining 90%  pay 30%, while 47% pay next to nothing.  66% of 
spending is on  Social programs i.e. SS, Medicare ,  Medicaid, Welfair, CHIP,  
etc. The remaining 34% is on the  military and the cost of running the 
government and  various discretionary spending.
  
  
 
   From: "olliesedwuz@...[FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25,  2016 3:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife]  Re: very compelling article
  
    Its deeper than that. All of  those voting have watched their parents 
work hard without  getting ahead, and profits skimm

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-26 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The wealthy need to pay an equal  percentage of taxes as the middle class - 30 
to 40 percent of annual income. Of course it sounds like a lot when you say 70 
percent of taxes are contributed by these multi-billionaires, but that would 
only make sense if they were making what we do. Since they make in a month what 
most make in a life-time, they can open their pockets a little wider than 17%.  

 This idea you promote below, with the poor acting as leeches, is 
slight-of-hand propaganda - don't watch the endless corporate welfare, and 
crony capitalism, and tax evasion, instead focus on someone who is less 
fortunate, and stigmatize them as stealing from us all. Very cynical and 
anti-social, too. Those spreading such thinking are addicted to greed, 
projecting it on everyone but themselves.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Their *fair share*? And who determines what is fair? There we go again, *free* 
stuff! Nothing is free. Would *free* health care and education be enough? Hell 
no! Next it will be housing transportation, child care, energy, food, clothing, 
entertainment, drugs etc etc. And will all this stuff is *free* why the hell 
should I have to work? I want free vacation time, 24/7 365! Oh yeah, what's 
free vacation time without free spending money? I want a free master card with 
no limits!

 
 We already have a heavily regulated market and the wealthy *do* pay for 70% of 
the safety net.


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 12:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 
   No one will actually hand anyone else any money when the rich pay their fair 
share of taxes. Free higher ed and health care would work though. There really 
isn't anything wrong with treating people humanely. If the wealthy insist on an 
unregulated market, then they can damned well provide a safety net for the 
millions of ordinary citizens who regularly fall through the ever more common 
cracks in the economy, by paying their fair share of taxes. Nothing radical 
about it. 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 What do the uber- wealthy have to *give* you so that you can get ahead and be 
prosperous? 
 You can give many people millions of dollars and in a few short years they are 
broke again.
 You can't give wisdom or management skills. They are learned.
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:56 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   The uber-wealthy share of taxes paid is down to 17% of their income. I never 
paid a tax rate that low. Ever. Considering that they control 25% of the wealth 
of the entire country, they ought to pay much more than 17%. That is obscene. 
And the reason I refer to it mental illness, is that they have cornered not 
only this staggering amount of wealth, but the entire country is now rigged to 
increase their wealth, at our expense. 
 

 We are not talking about a wealth of millions of dollars, a sum that would 
make the rest of us unimaginably rich. No, these are all multi-billionaires. A 
billion dollars is equal to a person living to a hundred years of age, and 
spending ten million dollars annually, nearly a million bucks a month, from 
infancy. That is just ONE billion. Incomprehensible. 

 Any time there is a bump in the economy, who benefits? The rest of us, who 
haven't seen wages rise in 55 years? Nope. Always the wealthy. 

 We keep hearing from the servants of the rich, the media and politicians, how 
we are a mighty and wealthy country, a world super power, and yet the game is 
now so strongly rigged *against* the efforts of the populace to get ahead, to 
have stable, prosperous lives, that no one is listening. 
 

 This could be easily fixed, by bumping the rate on taxable investments to say, 
30 to 40%, what the middle class typically pays of its stagnant wages to the 
Feds in taxes. Close some loopholes too. I am not asking the one percent to 
contribute unfairly, only to the degree that the rest of us do. There should 
not be this unspoken rule, that once we achieve a certain level of wealth, we 
are then above the law. The truly galling thing about this, is the rich would 
never miss it, wouldn't even notice.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 The wealthy pay less in taxes? C'mon now! The top 10% pay 70% of tax revenues. 
The remaining 90% pay 30%, while 47% pay next to nothing. 66% of spending is on 
Social programs i.e. SS, Medicare , Medicaid, Welfair, CHIP, etc. The remaining 
34% is on the military and the cost of running the government and  various 
discretionary spending.

 

 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-26 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
This is the mistake that Hugo Chavez made.  He turned over businesses to 
the workers but didn't train any of them to be a manager.  You have to 
find the individual who will naturally be good at it and train them.  I 
would also suggest a quick workshop for everyone in the business to find 
replacements and to keep check on the manager.


What we are moving towards is a society of oligarchs running things and 
everyone else is their servant.  That's very oppressive and should not 
be tolerated in any way whatsoever.


On 02/26/2016 12:15 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
Right, management skills can be learned but require discipline to make 
them effective.




*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2016 10:50 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

Management skills are simple.  They can be taught in a few short 
hours. The balls to apply them is the hard part.  The uber rich are 
often all balls and no reason.  They just plow ahead like Mac truck 
slamming through a store and leaving a mess in it's wake.  A massive 
correction is needed for the big party the uber rich have had and left 
the hotel room trashed.


On 02/26/2016 07:05 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com 
<mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote:
What do the uber- wealthy have to *give* you so that you can get 
ahead and be prosperous?
You can give many people millions of dollars and in a few short years 
they are broke again.

You can't give wisdom or management skills. They are learned.



*From:* "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<mailto:olliesed...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife]> 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2016 6:56 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

The uber-wealthy share of taxes paid is down to 17% of their income. 
I never paid a tax rate that low. Ever. Considering that they control 
25% of the wealth of the entire country, they ought to pay much more 
than 17%. That is obscene. And the reason I refer to it mental 
illness, is that they have cornered not only this staggering amount 
of wealth, but the entire country is now rigged to increase their 
wealth, at our expense.


We are not talking about a wealth of millions of dollars, a sum that 
would make the rest of us unimaginably rich. No, these are all 
multi-billionaires. A billion dollars is equal to a person living to 
a hundred years of age, and spending ten million dollars annually, 
nearly a million bucks a month, from infancy. That is just ONE 
billion. Incomprehensible.


Any time there is a bump in the economy, who benefits? The rest of 
us, who haven't seen wages rise in 55 years? Nope. Always the wealthy.


We keep hearing from the servants of the rich, the media and 
politicians, how we are a mighty and wealthy country, a world super 
power, and yet the game is now so strongly rigged *against* the 
efforts of the populace to get ahead, to have stable, prosperous 
lives, that no one is listening.


This could be easily fixed, by bumping the rate on taxable 
investments to say, 30 to 40%, what the middle class typically pays 
of its stagnant wages to the Feds in taxes. Close some loopholes too. 
I am not asking the one percent to contribute unfairly, only to the 
degree that the rest of us do. There should not be this unspoken 
rule, that once we achieve a certain level of wealth, we are then 
above the law. The truly galling thing about this, is the rich would 
never miss it, wouldn't even notice.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <mdixon.6569@...> 
<mailto:mdixon.6569@...> wrote :


The wealthy pay less in taxes? C'mon now! The top 10% pay 70% of tax 
revenues. The remaining 90% pay 30%, while 47% pay next to nothing. 
66% of spending is on Social programs i.e. SS, Medicare , Medicaid, 
Welfair, CHIP, etc. The remaining 34% is on the military and the cost 
of running the government and  various discretionary spending.





*From:* "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<mailto:olliesedwuz@...[FairfieldLife]> 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*Sent:* Thursday, February 25, 2016 3:11 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

Its deeper than that. All of those voting have watched their parents 
work hard without getting 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Their *fair share*? And who determines what is fair? There we go again, *free* 
stuff! Nothing is free. Would *free* health care and education be enough? Hell 
no! Next it will be housing transportation, child care, energy, food, clothing, 
entertainment, drugs etc etc. And will all this stuff is *free* why the hell 
should I have to work? I want free vacation time, 24/7 365! Oh yeah, what's 
free vacation time without free spending money? I want a free master card with 
no limits!
We already have a heavily regulated market and the wealthy *do* pay for 70% of 
the safety net.

  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 12:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
   
    No one will actually hand anyone else any money when the rich pay their 
fair share of taxes. Free higher ed and health care would work though. There 
really isn't anything wrong with treating people humanely. If the wealthy 
insist on an unregulated market, then they can damned well provide a safety net 
for the millions of ordinary citizens who regularly fall through the ever more 
common cracks in the economy, by paying their fair share of taxes. Nothing 
radical about it. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

What do the uber- wealthy have to *give* you so that you can get ahead and be 
prosperous? 
You can give many people millions of dollars and in a few short years they are 
broke again.You can't give wisdom or management skills. They are learned.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:56 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 The uber-wealthy share of taxes paid is down to 17% of their income. I never 
paid a tax rate that low. Ever. Considering that they control 25% of the wealth 
of the entire country, they ought to pay much more than 17%. That is obscene. 
And the reason I refer to it mental illness, is that they have cornered not 
only this staggering amount of wealth, but the entire country is now rigged to 
increase their wealth, at our expense. 
We are not talking about a wealth of millions of dollars, a sum that would make 
the rest of us unimaginably rich. No, these are all multi-billionaires. A 
billion dollars is equal to a person living to a hundred years of age, and 
spending ten million dollars annually, nearly a million bucks a month, from 
infancy. That is just ONE billion. Incomprehensible.
Any time there is a bump in the economy, who benefits? The rest of us, who 
haven't seen wages rise in 55 years? Nope. Always the wealthy.
We keep hearing from the servants of the rich, the media and politicians, how 
we are a mighty and wealthy country, a world super power, and yet the game is 
now so strongly rigged *against* the efforts of the populace to get ahead, to 
have stable, prosperous lives, that no one is listening. 
This could be easily fixed, by bumping the rate on taxable investments to say, 
30 to 40%, what the middle class typically pays of its stagnant wages to the 
Feds in taxes. Close some loopholes too. I am not asking the one percent to 
contribute unfairly, only to the degree that the rest of us do. There should 
not be this unspoken rule, that once we achieve a certain level of wealth, we 
are then above the law. The truly galling thing about this, is the rich would 
never miss it, wouldn't even notice.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

The wealthy pay less in taxes? C'mon now! The top 10% pay 70% of tax revenues. 
The remaining 90% pay 30%, while 47% pay next to nothing. 66% of spending is on 
Social programs i.e. SS, Medicare , Medicaid, Welfair, CHIP, etc. The remaining 
34% is on the military and the cost of running the government and  various 
discretionary spending.



  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 3:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 Its deeper than that. All of those voting have watched their parents work hard 
without getting ahead, and profits skimmed by the wealthy who pay less taxes. 
In addition, the 1.2 trillion in student debt hampers many graduates the chance 
for a fresh start, and they are the group supposedly driving the economy. Its a 
rigged system, now more than ever, and the incremental change offered by all of 
the candidates except Sanders, amounts to treating the symptoms but not curing 
the underlying cancer of growing economic inequality.
Your quote by Benjamin Franklin is spot on, in light of all the crony 
capitalism going on, off shoring profits to avoid taxes, while pointing the 
finger at someone collecting food-stamps, or throwing people out of jobs t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I'm not sure Jews want to claim him. 


  From: "he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 11:21 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
   
    
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Right, management skills can be learned but require discipline to make them 
effective.


  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 10:50 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
   
 Management skills are simple.  They can be taught in a few short hours. 
The balls to apply them is the hard part.  The uber rich are often all balls 
and no reason.  They just plow ahead like Mac truck slamming through a store 
and leaving a mess in it's wake.  A massive correction is needed for the big 
party the uber rich have had and left the hotel room trashed.
 
 On 02/26/2016 07:05 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
    What do the uber- wealthy have to *give* you so that you can get ahead and 
be prosperous? 
 You can give many people millions of dollars and in a few short years they are 
broke again. You can't give wisdom or management skills. They are learned. 
 
From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:56 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
  
    The uber-wealthy share of taxes paid is down to 17% of their income. I 
never paid a tax rate that low. Ever.  Considering that they control 25% of the 
wealth of the entire country, they ought to pay much more than 17%. That is 
obscene. And the reason I refer to it mental illness, is that they have  
cornered not only this staggering amount of wealth, but the entire country is 
now rigged to increase their wealth, at our expense.  
  We are not talking about a wealth of millions of dollars, a sum that would 
make the rest of us unimaginably  rich. No, these are all multi-billionaires. A 
billion dollars is equal to a person living to a hundred years of age, and 
spending ten million dollars annually, nearly a  million bucks a month, from 
infancy. That is just ONE billion. Incomprehensible.  
  Any time there is a bump in the economy, who benefits? The rest of us, who 
haven't seen wages rise in  55 years? Nope. Always the wealthy. 
  We keep hearing from the servants of the rich, the media and politicians, how 
we are a  mighty and wealthy country, a world super power, and yet the game is 
now so strongly rigged *against* the efforts of the populace to get ahead, to 
have  stable, prosperous lives, that no one is listening.  
  This could be easily fixed, by bumping the rate on taxable investments to 
say, 30 to 40%,  what the middle class typically pays of its stagnant wages to 
the Feds in taxes. Close some loopholes too. I am not asking the one percent to 
contribute  unfairly, only to the degree that the rest of us do. There should 
not be this unspoken rule, that once we achieve a certain level of wealth, we 
are then above the law.  The truly galling thing about this, is the rich would 
never miss it, wouldn't even notice.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
 
   The wealthy pay less in taxes? C'mon now! The top 10% pay  70% of tax 
revenues. The remaining 90% pay 30%, while 47% pay next to  nothing. 66% of 
spending is on Social programs i.e.  SS, Medicare , Medicaid, Welfair, CHIP, 
etc. The remaining 34% is on the  military and the cost of running the 
government and  various discretionary spending.
  
  
 
   From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 3:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling  article
  
    Its deeper than that. All of  those voting have watched their parents  
work hard without  getting ahead, and profits skimmed by the  wealthy who pay 
less  taxes. In addition, the 1.2 trillion  in student debt hampers many 
graduates the chance for a fresh start,  and they are the group supposedly 
driving the economy. Its a  rigged system, now more than ever, and the 
incremental change offered  by all of the candidates except  Sanders, amounts 
to  treating the symptoms but not curing the  underlying cancer of growing 
economic inequality. 
  Your quote by Benjamin  Franklin is spot on, in light of all  the crony 
capitalism  going on, off shoring profits to  avoid taxes, while pointing the 
finger at someone collecting  food-stamps, or throwing people out of  jobs that 
go overseas, and  then complaining about them  collecting unemployment  for too 
many weeks. That kind of greed  is a mental illness and must be stopped for the 
good of us  all.  
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
 
  Yeah, Bernie definitely  offers more *free* stuff than Hillary.  Bernsie 
wants to offer  *free* higher education to all. Hillary  just wants you to pay 
lower  interest rates on your student loans.  If you were a s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-26 Thread he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]

 Wiki:
 

 Hortense Duck (née McDuck; born 1876) is the wife of Quackmore Duck and 
Donald's mother. She was born in Scotland and is the youngest sister of Scrooge 
McDuck.
 

 Donald John Trump was born on June 14, 1946, in the Queens borough of New York 
City.[3][4][5][6] He is the fourth of five children to Mary Anne (née MacLeod; 
1912–2000), a homemaker and philanthropist[7] and Fred Trump (1905–1999), who 
worked as a real estate developer. His mother was born at Tong on the Scottish 
island of Lewis.[8] In 1930, aged 18, she visited the United States and met 
Fred Trump.

 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-26 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
No one will actually hand anyone else any money when the rich pay their fair 
share of taxes. Free higher ed and health care would work though. There really 
isn't anything wrong with treating people humanely. If the wealthy insist on an 
unregulated market, then they can damned well provide a safety net for the 
millions of ordinary citizens who regularly fall through the ever more common 
cracks in the economy, by paying their fair share of taxes. Nothing radical 
about it.  

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 What do the uber- wealthy have to *give* you so that you can get ahead and be 
prosperous? 
 You can give many people millions of dollars and in a few short years they are 
broke again.
 You can't give wisdom or management skills. They are learned.
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:56 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 
   The uber-wealthy share of taxes paid is down to 17% of their income. I never 
paid a tax rate that low. Ever. Considering that they control 25% of the wealth 
of the entire country, they ought to pay much more than 17%. That is obscene. 
And the reason I refer to it mental illness, is that they have cornered not 
only this staggering amount of wealth, but the entire country is now rigged to 
increase their wealth, at our expense. 
 

 We are not talking about a wealth of millions of dollars, a sum that would 
make the rest of us unimaginably rich. No, these are all multi-billionaires. A 
billion dollars is equal to a person living to a hundred years of age, and 
spending ten million dollars annually, nearly a million bucks a month, from 
infancy. That is just ONE billion. Incomprehensible. 

 Any time there is a bump in the economy, who benefits? The rest of us, who 
haven't seen wages rise in 55 years? Nope. Always the wealthy. 

 We keep hearing from the servants of the rich, the media and politicians, how 
we are a mighty and wealthy country, a world super power, and yet the game is 
now so strongly rigged *against* the efforts of the populace to get ahead, to 
have stable, prosperous lives, that no one is listening. 
 

 This could be easily fixed, by bumping the rate on taxable investments to say, 
30 to 40%, what the middle class typically pays of its stagnant wages to the 
Feds in taxes. Close some loopholes too. I am not asking the one percent to 
contribute unfairly, only to the degree that the rest of us do. There should 
not be this unspoken rule, that once we achieve a certain level of wealth, we 
are then above the law. The truly galling thing about this, is the rich would 
never miss it, wouldn't even notice.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 The wealthy pay less in taxes? C'mon now! The top 10% pay 70% of tax revenues. 
The remaining 90% pay 30%, while 47% pay next to nothing. 66% of spending is on 
Social programs i.e. SS, Medicare , Medicaid, Welfair, CHIP, etc. The remaining 
34% is on the military and the cost of running the government and  various 
discretionary spending.

 

 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 3:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   Its deeper than that. All of those voting have watched their parents work 
hard without getting ahead, and profits skimmed by the wealthy who pay less 
taxes. In addition, the 1.2 trillion in student debt hampers many graduates the 
chance for a fresh start, and they are the group supposedly driving the 
economy. Its a rigged system, now more than ever, and the incremental change 
offered by all of the candidates except Sanders, amounts to treating the 
symptoms but not curing the underlying cancer of growing economic inequality.
 

 Your quote by Benjamin Franklin is spot on, in light of all the crony 
capitalism going on, off shoring profits to avoid taxes, while pointing the 
finger at someone collecting food-stamps, or throwing people out of jobs that 
go overseas, and then complaining about them collecting unemployment for too 
many weeks. That kind of greed is a mental illness and must be stopped for the 
good of us all.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants 
to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower 
interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote 
for?
 
 When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald 
the end of the republic.
Benjamin Franklin.

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-26 Thread he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]

 Wouldn't Sanders be the first Jewish president of the US of A?


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-26 Thread he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]

 I believe Trump's roots are in Scotland and Germany.
 As it happens, also his namesake, the most famous duck
 in the world, Donald Duck seems to have same kind of roots,
 because his uncle, Scrooge McDuck is said to be Scottish!


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-26 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Management skills are simple.  They can be taught in a few short hours. 
The balls to apply them is the hard part.  The uber rich are often all 
balls and no reason.  They just plow ahead like Mac truck slamming 
through a store and leaving a mess in it's wake.  A massive correction 
is needed for the big party the uber rich have had and left the hotel 
room trashed.


On 02/26/2016 07:05 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
What do the uber- wealthy have to *give* you so that you can get ahead 
and be prosperous?
You can give many people millions of dollars and in a few short years 
they are broke again.

You can't give wisdom or management skills. They are learned.



*From:* "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2016 6:56 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

The uber-wealthy share of taxes paid is down to 17% of their income. I 
never paid a tax rate that low. Ever. Considering that they control 
25% of the wealth of the entire country, they ought to pay much more 
than 17%. That is obscene. And the reason I refer to it mental 
illness, is that they have cornered not only this staggering amount of 
wealth, but the entire country is now rigged to increase their wealth, 
at our expense.


We are not talking about a wealth of millions of dollars, a sum that 
would make the rest of us unimaginably rich. No, these are all 
multi-billionaires. A billion dollars is equal to a person living to a 
hundred years of age, and spending ten million dollars annually, 
nearly a million bucks a month, from infancy. That is just ONE 
billion. Incomprehensible.


Any time there is a bump in the economy, who benefits? The rest of us, 
who haven't seen wages rise in 55 years? Nope. Always the wealthy.


We keep hearing from the servants of the rich, the media and 
politicians, how we are a mighty and wealthy country, a world super 
power, and yet the game is now so strongly rigged *against* the 
efforts of the populace to get ahead, to have stable, prosperous 
lives, that no one is listening.


This could be easily fixed, by bumping the rate on taxable investments 
to say, 30 to 40%, what the middle class typically pays of its 
stagnant wages to the Feds in taxes. Close some loopholes too. I am 
not asking the one percent to contribute unfairly, only to the degree 
that the rest of us do. There should not be this unspoken rule, that 
once we achieve a certain level of wealth, we are then above the law. 
The truly galling thing about this, is the rich would never miss it, 
wouldn't even notice.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

The wealthy pay less in taxes? C'mon now! The top 10% pay 70% of tax 
revenues. The remaining 90% pay 30%, while 47% pay next to nothing. 
66% of spending is on Social programs i.e. SS, Medicare , Medicaid, 
Welfair, CHIP, etc. The remaining 34% is on the military and the cost 
of running the government and  various discretionary spending.





*From:* "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, February 25, 2016 3:11 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

Its deeper than that. All of those voting have watched their parents 
work hard without getting ahead, and profits skimmed by the wealthy 
who pay less taxes. In addition, the 1.2 trillion in student debt 
hampers many graduates the chance for a fresh start, and they are the 
group supposedly driving the economy. Its a rigged system, now more 
than ever, and the incremental change offered by all of the candidates 
except Sanders, amounts to treating the symptoms but not curing the 
underlying cancer of growing economic inequality.


Your quote by Benjamin Franklin is spot on, in light of all the crony 
capitalism going on, off shoring profits to avoid taxes, while 
pointing the finger at someone collecting food-stamps, or throwing 
people out of jobs that go overseas, and then complaining about them 
collecting unemployment for too many weeks. That kind of greed is a 
mental illness and must be stopped for the good of us all.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie 
wants to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you 
to pay lower interest rates on your student loans. If you were a 
student, who would you vote for?
When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that 
will herald the end of the republic.

Benjamin Franklin.

*From:* "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <Fairfield

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-26 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I'll check them out.  I have never talked of the "vast right wing conspiracy 
against the Clinton's."  Neither Hillary or Bill walks on water - there is 
plenty of fodder for Fox news, etc. to create "news" about.  We *know* they do 
and Bill will be back in the line of fire too, I'm guessing, and Fox news will 
dredge up the Ken Starr report, I'll bet.  We all carry baggage.  I said she 
was a survivor, because she is.  Only "God" knows how many lives she's burned 
through. :) 

 It's Wintergrass weekend here in Bellevue, WA this weekend.  Gotta go get 
immersed in the live experience of it all.  Pure positivity.  Kids running 
around, jamming going on in every corner of the Hyatt.  Bands from all over the 
nation.  All styles and flavors.  Acoustics to write home aboutits pretty 
much the only time all year I listen to Bluegrass and it is the best ever.  
Here's a nice video for you. :)
 

 Rabbit Wilde - Salt Flats (Official Video) 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOyfKJs1Qho 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOyfKJs1Qho 
 
 Rabbit Wilde - Salt Flats (Official Video) 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOyfKJs1Qho Rabbit Wilde - Salt Flats from The 
Wild North, out now on iTunes: http://bit.ly/1uCeW84 and at 
www.rabbitwilde.com/store Directed b...
 
 
 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Emily, I tried numerous times to include several youtube links discussing 
detail that is known presently and legal ramifications without success. If you 
are willing to look for yourself and listen, you might see where I'm coming 
from. If you google *Judge Napolitano on Hillary's e-mail* you'll come up with 
numerous video clips, not limited to  just one person's opinions. Of course 
these particular video clips are Fox News related which you may dismiss as *not 
news*. But there are other sources as well if you look. One can dismiss these 
reports as part of the vast right-wing conspiracy against the Clinton's all you 
want and that would be how you have been conditioned all these years. Someone 
said earlier in a post that Hillary is a *survivor*. Yes she is but a cat only 
has nine lives. Sooner or later the luck runs out.
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 12:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 
   Mike, it's amazing the confidence you exhibit in what you know about the FBI 
Investigation.  You didn't mention your source(s) for all this information, so 
perhaps it is all "spin." Or, maybe you are a political psychic. My guess is, 
"it will all come out in the wash." 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Emily, that's called *spin*. The FBI only investigates potentially criminal 
activity. They currently have 150 agents working this investigation. Numerous 
e-mails have been discovered on Hillary's private server that are not allowed 
to be there.There are E-mails involving highly classified materials not allowed 
on private servers. Some were so sensitive that even the FBI agents were not 
allowed to read them. Some involve names of agents in foreign countries who's 
lives would be in danger should they be discovered and they were on an 
unsecured private server.
 
 


 The FBI can not legally speak to the press about it's investigation but will 
make a recommendation as to whether or not she should be prosecuted once the 
investigation is complete.
But the investigation keeps getting deeper. 





 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   
 Re: "Hillary is under some serious investigation by the FBI right now."
 

 Mike, check your sources. 
 

 
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/14/jeb-bush/heres-whats-wrong-jeb-bush-saying-hillary-clinton-/
 
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/14/jeb-bush/heres-whats-wrong-jeb-bush-saying-hillary-clinton-/
 
 
 
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/14/jeb-bush/heres-...
 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Wrong Anne. Anybody but Hillary or an avowed socialist. Besides, Hillary is 
under some serious investigation by the FBI right now. One hundred and fifty 
FBI agents are invest

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
What do the uber- wealthy have to *give* you so that you can get ahead and be 
prosperous? 
You can give many people millions of dollars and in a few short years they are 
broke again.You can't give wisdom or management skills. They are learned.

  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:56 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
   
    The uber-wealthy share of taxes paid is down to 17% of their income. I 
never paid a tax rate that low. Ever. Considering that they control 25% of the 
wealth of the entire country, they ought to pay much more than 17%. That is 
obscene. And the reason I refer to it mental illness, is that they have 
cornered not only this staggering amount of wealth, but the entire country is 
now rigged to increase their wealth, at our expense. 
We are not talking about a wealth of millions of dollars, a sum that would make 
the rest of us unimaginably rich. No, these are all multi-billionaires. A 
billion dollars is equal to a person living to a hundred years of age, and 
spending ten million dollars annually, nearly a million bucks a month, from 
infancy. That is just ONE billion. Incomprehensible.
Any time there is a bump in the economy, who benefits? The rest of us, who 
haven't seen wages rise in 55 years? Nope. Always the wealthy.
We keep hearing from the servants of the rich, the media and politicians, how 
we are a mighty and wealthy country, a world super power, and yet the game is 
now so strongly rigged *against* the efforts of the populace to get ahead, to 
have stable, prosperous lives, that no one is listening. 
This could be easily fixed, by bumping the rate on taxable investments to say, 
30 to 40%, what the middle class typically pays of its stagnant wages to the 
Feds in taxes. Close some loopholes too. I am not asking the one percent to 
contribute unfairly, only to the degree that the rest of us do. There should 
not be this unspoken rule, that once we achieve a certain level of wealth, we 
are then above the law. The truly galling thing about this, is the rich would 
never miss it, wouldn't even notice.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

The wealthy pay less in taxes? C'mon now! The top 10% pay 70% of tax revenues. 
The remaining 90% pay 30%, while 47% pay next to nothing. 66% of spending is on 
Social programs i.e. SS, Medicare , Medicaid, Welfair, CHIP, etc. The remaining 
34% is on the military and the cost of running the government and  various 
discretionary spending.



  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 3:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 Its deeper than that. All of those voting have watched their parents work hard 
without getting ahead, and profits skimmed by the wealthy who pay less taxes. 
In addition, the 1.2 trillion in student debt hampers many graduates the chance 
for a fresh start, and they are the group supposedly driving the economy. Its a 
rigged system, now more than ever, and the incremental change offered by all of 
the candidates except Sanders, amounts to treating the symptoms but not curing 
the underlying cancer of growing economic inequality.
Your quote by Benjamin Franklin is spot on, in light of all the crony 
capitalism going on, off shoring profits to avoid taxes, while pointing the 
finger at someone collecting food-stamps, or throwing people out of jobs that 
go overseas, and then complaining about them collecting unemployment for too 
many weeks. That kind of greed is a mental illness and must be stopped for the 
good of us all.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to 
offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower 
interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote 
for?
When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald 
the end of the republic.
Benjamin Franklin.
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 You know, he makes some excellent points.  It is true that Hillary is not a 
great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the 
time.  Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people.  
They say it's about her.  It is true that Trump will do everything he can to 
lynch her and he won't let up.  If she defends, she loses.  He will continue to 
play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that 
isn't talked about, but that surely exists in th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Emily, I tried numerous times to include several youtube links discussing 
detail that is known presently and legal ramifications without success. If you 
are willing to look for yourself and listen, you might see where I'm coming 
from. If you google *Judge Napolitano on Hillary's e-mail* you'll come up with 
numerous video clips, not limited to  just one person's opinions. Of course 
these particular video clips are Fox News related which you may dismiss as *not 
news*. But there are other sources as well if you look. One can dismiss these 
reports as part of the vast right-wing conspiracy against the Clinton's all you 
want and that would be how you have been conditioned all these years. Someone 
said earlier in a post that Hillary is a *survivor*. Yes she is but a cat only 
has nine lives. Sooner or later the luck runs out.


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 12:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
   
    Mike, it's amazing the confidence you exhibit in what you know about the 
FBI Investigation.  You didn't mention your source(s) for all this information, 
so perhaps it is all "spin." Or, maybe you are a political psychic. My guess 
is, "it will all come out in the wash." 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Emily, that's called *spin*. The FBI only investigates potentially criminal 
activity. They currently have 150 agents working this investigation. Numerous 
e-mails have been discovered on Hillary's private server that are not allowed 
to be there.There are E-mails involving highly classified materials not allowed 
on private servers. Some were so sensitive that even the FBI agents were not 
allowed to read them. Some involve names of agents in foreign countries who's 
lives would be in danger should they be discovered and they were on an 
unsecured private server.


 The FBI can not legally speak to the press about it's investigation but will 
make a recommendation as to whether or not she should be prosecuted once the 
investigation is complete.
But the investigation keeps getting deeper. 



   From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 Re: "Hillary is under some serious investigation by the FBI right now."
Mike, check your sources. 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Wrong Anne. Anybody but Hillary or an avowed socialist. Besides, Hillary is 
under some serious investigation by the FBI right now. One hundred and fifty 
FBI agents are investigating her right now and a federal judge wants her 
server. She didn't delete 30,000 e-mails of yoga routines and wedding plans. 
That's called *obstruction of justice*. Obama can't pardon her because she 
hasn't been tried and convicted and if he refuses to indict her after an FBI 
recommendation to, all hell will break loose.


  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 9:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. 

Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. 
This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They 
are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She 
could never beat Trump.
But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to 
win.

This will never happen. Hillary will be our next President. Bernie scares too 
many who are irrationally afraid of "socialists" and there are not enough crazy 
Republicans to secure Trump as the next White House resident - I can see it 
now; everything done in Rococo style with plenty of dripping gold furniture and 
fixtures.

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself!


   From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-26 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The uber-wealthy share of taxes paid is down to 17% of their income. I never 
paid a tax rate that low. Ever. Considering that they control 25% of the wealth 
of the entire country, they ought to pay much more than 17%. That is obscene. 
And the reason I refer to it mental illness, is that they have cornered not 
only this staggering amount of wealth, but the entire country is now rigged to 
increase their wealth, at our expense.  

 We are not talking about a wealth of millions of dollars, a sum that would 
make the rest of us unimaginably rich. No, these are all multi-billionaires. A 
billion dollars is equal to a person living to a hundred years of age, and 
spending ten million dollars annually, nearly a million bucks a month, from 
infancy. That is just ONE billion. Incomprehensible. 

 Any time there is a bump in the economy, who benefits? The rest of us, who 
haven't seen wages rise in 55 years? Nope. Always the wealthy. 

 We keep hearing from the servants of the rich, the media and politicians, how 
we are a mighty and wealthy country, a world super power, and yet the game is 
now so strongly rigged *against* the efforts of the populace to get ahead, to 
have stable, prosperous lives, that no one is listening. 
 

 This could be easily fixed, by bumping the rate on taxable investments to say, 
30 to 40%, what the middle class typically pays of its stagnant wages to the 
Feds in taxes. Close some loopholes too. I am not asking the one percent to 
contribute unfairly, only to the degree that the rest of us do. There should 
not be this unspoken rule, that once we achieve a certain level of wealth, we 
are then above the law. The truly galling thing about this, is the rich would 
never miss it, wouldn't even notice.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 The wealthy pay less in taxes? C'mon now! The top 10% pay 70% of tax revenues. 
The remaining 90% pay 30%, while 47% pay next to nothing. 66% of spending is on 
Social programs i.e. SS, Medicare , Medicaid, Welfair, CHIP, etc. The remaining 
34% is on the military and the cost of running the government and  various 
discretionary spending.

 

 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 3:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 
   Its deeper than that. All of those voting have watched their parents work 
hard without getting ahead, and profits skimmed by the wealthy who pay less 
taxes. In addition, the 1.2 trillion in student debt hampers many graduates the 
chance for a fresh start, and they are the group supposedly driving the 
economy. Its a rigged system, now more than ever, and the incremental change 
offered by all of the candidates except Sanders, amounts to treating the 
symptoms but not curing the underlying cancer of growing economic inequality.
 

 Your quote by Benjamin Franklin is spot on, in light of all the crony 
capitalism going on, off shoring profits to avoid taxes, while pointing the 
finger at someone collecting food-stamps, or throwing people out of jobs that 
go overseas, and then complaining about them collecting unemployment for too 
many weeks. That kind of greed is a mental illness and must be stopped for the 
good of us all.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants 
to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower 
interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote 
for?
 
 When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald 
the end of the republic.
Benjamin Franklin.

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   You know, he makes some excellent points.  It is true that Hillary is not a 
great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the 
time.  Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people.  
They say it's about her.  It is true that Trump will do everything he can to 
lynch her and he won't let up.  If she defends, she loses.  He will continue to 
play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that 
isn't talked about, but that surely exists in the minds of both men and women.  
The undermining has already started and has been quite effective.  I will agree 
that the more interesting match that would force us to choose ideologically 
would be a Sanders/Trump choice.  SuperTuesday is around the corner.   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 This is a very well argued article saying that Clinton cannot beat Trump but 
Sanders can. 

Unless t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-25 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Mike, it's amazing the confidence you exhibit in what you know about the FBI 
Investigation.  You didn't mention your source(s) for all this information, so 
perhaps it is all "spin." Or, maybe you are a political psychic. My guess is, 
"it will all come out in the wash." 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Emily, that's called *spin*. The FBI only investigates potentially criminal 
activity. They currently have 150 agents working this investigation. Numerous 
e-mails have been discovered on Hillary's private server that are not allowed 
to be there.There are E-mails involving highly classified materials not allowed 
on private servers. Some were so sensitive that even the FBI agents were not 
allowed to read them. Some involve names of agents in foreign countries who's 
lives would be in danger should they be discovered and they were on an 
unsecured private server.
 
 


 The FBI can not legally speak to the press about it's investigation but will 
make a recommendation as to whether or not she should be prosecuted once the 
investigation is complete.
But the investigation keeps getting deeper. 





 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   
 Re: "Hillary is under some serious investigation by the FBI right now."
 

 Mike, check your sources. 
 

 
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/14/jeb-bush/heres-whats-wrong-jeb-bush-saying-hillary-clinton-/
 
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/14/jeb-bush/heres-whats-wrong-jeb-bush-saying-hillary-clinton-/
 
 
 
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/14/jeb-bush/heres-...
 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Wrong Anne. Anybody but Hillary or an avowed socialist. Besides, Hillary is 
under some serious investigation by the FBI right now. One hundred and fifty 
FBI agents are investigating her right now and a federal judge wants her 
server. She didn't delete 30,000 e-mails of yoga routines and wedding plans. 
That's called *obstruction of justice*. Obama can't pardon her because she 
hasn't been tried and convicted and if he refuses to indict her after an FBI 
recommendation to, all hell will break loose.
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 9:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. 

 

 Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. 
This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They 
are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She 
could never beat Trump.
 

 But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to 
win.

 

 This will never happen. Hillary will be our next President. Bernie scares too 
many who are irrationally afraid of "socialists" and there are not enough crazy 
Republicans to secure Trump as the next White House resident - I can see it 
now; everything done in Rococo style with plenty of dripping gold furniture and 
fixtures.
 
 


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   
 Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself!
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time 
and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the 
school yard.  I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward 
foolsliars, all of you.  Wimps, weak.  I bet you couldn't pass a bill if 
you tried.  The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget.  I'll make 
sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see 
those guys in black at the back; they wear their sungl

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-25 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Emily, that's called *spin*. The FBI only investigates potentially criminal 
activity. They currently have 150 agents working this investigation. Numerous 
e-mails have been discovered on Hillary's private server that are not allowed 
to be there.There are E-mails involving highly classified materials not allowed 
on private servers. Some were so sensitive that even the FBI agents were not 
allowed to read them. Some involve names of agents in foreign countries who's 
lives would be in danger should they be discovered and they were on an 
unsecured private server.


 The FBI can not legally speak to the press about it's investigation but will 
make a recommendation as to whether or not she should be prosecuted once the 
investigation is complete.
But the investigation keeps getting deeper. 



   From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
  
    Re: "Hillary is under some serious investigation by the FBI right now."
Mike, check your sources. 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Wrong Anne. Anybody but Hillary or an avowed socialist. Besides, Hillary is 
under some serious investigation by the FBI right now. One hundred and fifty 
FBI agents are investigating her right now and a federal judge wants her 
server. She didn't delete 30,000 e-mails of yoga routines and wedding plans. 
That's called *obstruction of justice*. Obama can't pardon her because she 
hasn't been tried and convicted and if he refuses to indict her after an FBI 
recommendation to, all hell will break loose.


  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 9:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. 

Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. 
This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They 
are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She 
could never beat Trump.
But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to 
win.

This will never happen. Hillary will be our next President. Bernie scares too 
many who are irrationally afraid of "socialists" and there are not enough crazy 
Republicans to secure Trump as the next White House resident - I can see it 
now; everything done in Rococo style with plenty of dripping gold furniture and 
fixtures.

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself!


   From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time and 
he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the school 
yard.  I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward 
foolsliars, all of you.  Wimps, weak.  I bet you couldn't pass a bill if 
you tried.  The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget.  I'll make 
sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see 
those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night.  Heck, 
I'll do it myself.  I don't need you.  I have a billion dollars. I can run this 
country by myself.  I'm comin' for you, don't forget.  I'll sue the pants off 
of you.  I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses.  Watch 
your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway."  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists and 
any other  problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound familiar?


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM
 S

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-25 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re: "Hillary is under some serious investigation by the FBI right now."
 

 Mike, check your sources. 
 

 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Wrong Anne. Anybody but Hillary or an avowed socialist. Besides, Hillary is 
under some serious investigation by the FBI right now. One hundred and fifty 
FBI agents are investigating her right now and a federal judge wants her 
server. She didn't delete 30,000 e-mails of yoga routines and wedding plans. 
That's called *obstruction of justice*. Obama can't pardon her because she 
hasn't been tried and convicted and if he refuses to indict her after an FBI 
recommendation to, all hell will break loose.
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 9:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. 

 

 Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. 
This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They 
are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She 
could never beat Trump.
 

 But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to 
win.

 

 This will never happen. Hillary will be our next President. Bernie scares too 
many who are irrationally afraid of "socialists" and there are not enough crazy 
Republicans to secure Trump as the next White House resident - I can see it 
now; everything done in Rococo style with plenty of dripping gold furniture and 
fixtures.
 
 


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   
 Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself!
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time 
and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the 
school yard.  I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward 
foolsliars, all of you.  Wimps, weak.  I bet you couldn't pass a bill if 
you tried.  The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget.  I'll make 
sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see 
those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night.  Heck, 
I'll do it myself.  I don't need you.  I have a billion dollars. I can run this 
country by myself.  I'm comin' for you, don't forget.  I'll sue the pants off 
of you.  I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses.  Watch 
your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway."  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists 
and any other  problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound 
familiar?
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able 
to deliver.  Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together.  He 
just thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his 
gold plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build 
things right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves 
to their parent countries voluntarily.  All on Day 1.  What a guy.  
 

 Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho.  Have you looked at the 
particulars?  I like it.  However, he's bound and deter

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-25 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re: "Give me what I want as a Republican or I'll give the Democrats what they 
want and make Republicans sorry that they didn't work with me". 

 Yep, that sounds just like himhe's a swinger!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Trump isn't radical. Just sounds that way because he comes off as an American 
version of Benito Mussolini. He's going to *make the trains run on time* kind 
of guy. 
 He has supported a lot of liberal causes in the past and I doubt he has really 
changed. He is far more liberal than conservative but he knows how to *sell* 
himself.

 What I think makes this guy *dangerous* is how he will govern. He says he has 
mastered the *art of the deal* and that is how he will handle congress. "Give 
me what I want as a Republican or I'll give the Democrats what they want and 
make Republicans sorry that they didn't work with me". Democrats will be 
chomping at the bit to stick it to Republicans. This will work both ways, just 
depends on who has the majority in congress. He cares more about *winning* than 
conservative or liberal principals.

 

 
 


 From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:00 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 
   
 But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. 

 

 Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. 
This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They 
are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She 
could never beat Trump.
 

 But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to 
win.

 
 


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   
 Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself!
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time 
and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the 
school yard.  I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward 
foolsliars, all of you.  Wimps, weak.  I bet you couldn't pass a bill if 
you tried.  The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget.  I'll make 
sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see 
those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night.  Heck, 
I'll do it myself.  I don't need you.  I have a billion dollars. I can run this 
country by myself.  I'm comin' for you, don't forget.  I'll sue the pants off 
of you.  I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses.  Watch 
your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway."  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists 
and any other  problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound 
familiar?
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able 
to deliver.  Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together.  He 
just thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his 
gold plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build 
things right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves 
to their parent countries voluntarily.  All on Day 1.  What a guy.  
 

 Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho.  Have you looked at the 
particulars?  I like it.  However, he's bound and determined to get it and 
everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current 
time and won't in the near future. 
 "  The cost of this $75 billion a year plan is fully paid for by imposing a 
tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street speculators who nearly destroyed 
the economy seven years ago. "
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants 
to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-25 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The wealthy pay less in taxes? C'mon now! The top 10% pay 70% of tax revenues. 
The remaining 90% pay 30%, while 47% pay next to nothing. 66% of spending is on 
Social programs i.e. SS, Medicare , Medicaid, Welfair, CHIP, etc. The remaining 
34% is on the military and the cost of running the government and  various 
discretionary spending.



  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 3:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
   
    Its deeper than that. All of those voting have watched their parents work 
hard without getting ahead, and profits skimmed by the wealthy who pay less 
taxes. In addition, the 1.2 trillion in student debt hampers many graduates the 
chance for a fresh start, and they are the group supposedly driving the 
economy. Its a rigged system, now more than ever, and the incremental change 
offered by all of the candidates except Sanders, amounts to treating the 
symptoms but not curing the underlying cancer of growing economic inequality.
Your quote by Benjamin Franklin is spot on, in light of all the crony 
capitalism going on, off shoring profits to avoid taxes, while pointing the 
finger at someone collecting food-stamps, or throwing people out of jobs that 
go overseas, and then complaining about them collecting unemployment for too 
many weeks. That kind of greed is a mental illness and must be stopped for the 
good of us all.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to 
offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower 
interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote 
for?
When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald 
the end of the republic.
Benjamin Franklin.
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 You know, he makes some excellent points.  It is true that Hillary is not a 
great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the 
time.  Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people.  
They say it's about her.  It is true that Trump will do everything he can to 
lynch her and he won't let up.  If she defends, she loses.  He will continue to 
play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that 
isn't talked about, but that surely exists in the minds of both men and women.  
The undermining has already started and has been quite effective.  I will agree 
that the more interesting match that would force us to choose ideologically 
would be a Sanders/Trump choice.  SuperTuesday is around the corner.   


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

This is a very well argued article saying that Clinton cannot beat Trump but 
Sanders can. 

Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nomination Means a Trump Presidency | 
Current Affairs
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-25 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Its deeper than that. All of those voting have watched their parents work hard 
without getting ahead, and profits skimmed by the wealthy who pay less taxes. 
In addition, the 1.2 trillion in student debt hampers many graduates the chance 
for a fresh start, and they are the group supposedly driving the economy. Its a 
rigged system, now more than ever, and the incremental change offered by all of 
the candidates except Sanders, amounts to treating the symptoms but not curing 
the underlying cancer of growing economic inequality. 

 Your quote by Benjamin Franklin is spot on, in light of all the crony 
capitalism going on, off shoring profits to avoid taxes, while pointing the 
finger at someone collecting food-stamps, or throwing people out of jobs that 
go overseas, and then complaining about them collecting unemployment for too 
many weeks. That kind of greed is a mental illness and must be stopped for the 
good of us all.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants 
to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower 
interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote 
for?
 
 When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald 
the end of the republic.
Benjamin Franklin.

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 
   You know, he makes some excellent points.  It is true that Hillary is not a 
great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the 
time.  Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people.  
They say it's about her.  It is true that Trump will do everything he can to 
lynch her and he won't let up.  If she defends, she loses.  He will continue to 
play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that 
isn't talked about, but that surely exists in the minds of both men and women.  
The undermining has already started and has been quite effective.  I will agree 
that the more interesting match that would force us to choose ideologically 
would be a Sanders/Trump choice.  SuperTuesday is around the corner.   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This is a very well argued article saying that Clinton cannot beat Trump but 
Sanders can. 

Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nomination Means a Trump Presidency | 
Current Affairs 
http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency
 
 
 
http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency
 
 Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nominati... 
http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency
 With Donald Trump lookingincreasinglylikely to actually be the Republican 
nominee for President, it’s long past time for the Democrats to sta...


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-25 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I thought the Koch brothers *started* the Tea Party by who they funded!  They 
are very right wing and all about consolidating money, power and control to 
forward the agenda they want.  

  Trump is simply pandering to his own narcissistic self; he's in it for the 
win, for winning's sake.  The ultimate win, for him.  He's in it for the 
adulation,  He's  jacking off on it (pardon my language).  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 And for all three of these reasons, I would never run for public office!
 
 A few weeks ago I googled on Trump/Koch bros. Found a fascinating article 
about how the Koch bros. who were orignally Libertarian, sold out to the Tea 
Party. I think Trump is showing the Kochs and the Republicans how wrong they 
have been to let the Tea Party take over. For mainly this, I'm grateful to him.


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 11:38 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 
   Share, you are a woman in this life and a smart one, a fighter.  :)

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 What you say is very logical and makes a lot of sense. However, most people 
operate from a different place than logic and sense, esp when it comes to 
politics which is so much about perception and unconscious motivations, even 
primal ones.
 

 My guess is most Americans don't like a smart woman. And they certainly don't 
like a smart woman who's also a "fighter." They like women who are like Sanders 
wife, very comforting and motherly. Or Melania who's gorgeous and supportive of 
her family. Again, these are very primal currents in the human psyche.

 
 Another factor which plays out on the subliminal level, is that Hillary looks 
like a Republican wife! Or Margaret Thatcher! As it is, we live in a very 
visual culture and these cues operate on very unconscious levels. Over and over 
and over again.  

 

 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 10:14 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   I see it oppositely to you.  Hillary could win and she could beat Trump.  
She is a fighter—one should never underestimate the power of woman of intention 
when she sets her mind to something. Hillary is a survivor and she is 
intelligent and knowledgable and experienced and dedicated.  She is well spoken 
and she's thoughtful. She missteps here and there and because her every facial 
expression is being subjected to negative scrutiny and pronouncement and sexist 
attack, she suffers in the media.  Her tone is sometimes off and her slogan and 
logo aren't the best.  But, let us remember we aren't electing a slogan or a 
logo.  I think she needs to blow by and play past the accusations and just 
laugh at the jokesters and let these things roll off her back a bit more.  Stay 
focused on the positive message exclusively and the depth and intelligence she 
would bring to the White House. Relax, be herself and go for it.  Bernie's 
better at just letting it all hang out.  He doesn't apologize for himself and 
neither does Trump.  She needs to stop explaining and start campaigning with 
unbounded enthusiasm everywhere she goes, making sure that her message is not 
about herself, but about the people.  I think it is, honestly, but she needs to 
change her campaign message and her delivery and her demeanor some and stay on 
point. "Illegitimum non carborundum." She's breaking new ground.   
 

 Bernie is primarily an activist and a good one who communicates his message 
clearly, but all his great ideas are underwritten by his single-minded focus 
(comes out in every one of his speeches no matter what the topic) to take down 
and disable the "wealth structure" and "make them pay." It's global, not 
limited to the U.S. and he won't be able to start making inroads into it 
"locally" (U.S.) without a major and sustained "revolution" on the part of the 
American people.  We aren't there, we aren't even close.  He should throw his 
support behind Hillary, when the time comes.  And then, yes, keep the ball 
rolling with activism at the ground level, for the votes for our elected 
representatives, for continuing to educate the masses and the millennials that 
think he's a cutie pie.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. 

 

 Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. 
This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They 
are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She 
could never beat Trump.
 

 But, if she 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-25 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
And for all three of these reasons, I would never run for public office!
A few weeks ago I googled on Trump/Koch bros. Found a fascinating article about 
how the Koch bros. who were orignally Libertarian, sold out to the Tea Party. I 
think Trump is showing the Kochs and the Republicans how wrong they have been 
to let the Tea Party take over. For mainly this, I'm grateful to him.

  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 11:38 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
   
    Share, you are a woman in this life and a smart one, a fighter.  :)


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

What you say is very logical and makes a lot of sense. However, most people 
operate from a different place than logic and sense, esp when it comes to 
politics which is so much about perception and unconscious motivations, even 
primal ones.
My guess is most Americans don't like a smart woman. And they certainly don't 
like a smart woman who's also a "fighter." They like women who are like Sanders 
wife, very comforting and motherly. Or Melania who's gorgeous and supportive of 
her family. Again, these are very primal currents in the human psyche.

Another factor which plays out on the subliminal level, is that Hillary looks 
like a Republican wife! Or Margaret Thatcher! As it is, we live in a very 
visual culture and these cues operate on very unconscious levels. Over and over 
and over again.  


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 10:14 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 I see it oppositely to you.  Hillary could win and she could beat Trump.  She 
is a fighter—one should never underestimate the power of woman of intention 
when she sets her mind to something. Hillary is a survivor and she is 
intelligent and knowledgable and experienced and dedicated.  She is well spoken 
and she's thoughtful. She missteps here and there and because her every facial 
expression is being subjected to negative scrutiny and pronouncement and sexist 
attack, she suffers in the media.  Her tone is sometimes off and her slogan and 
logo aren't the best.  But, let us remember we aren't electing a slogan or a 
logo.  I think she needs to blow by and play past the accusations and just 
laugh at the jokesters and let these things roll off her back a bit more.  Stay 
focused on the positive message exclusively and the depth and intelligence she 
would bring to the White House. Relax, be herself and go for it.  Bernie's 
better at just letting it all hang out.  He doesn't apologize for himself and 
neither does Trump.  She needs to stop explaining and start campaigning with 
unbounded enthusiasm everywhere she goes, making sure that her message is not 
about herself, but about the people.  I think it is, honestly, but she needs to 
change her campaign message and her delivery and her demeanor some and stay on 
point. "Illegitimum non carborundum." She's breaking new ground.   
Bernie is primarily an activist and a good one who communicates his message 
clearly, but all his great ideas are underwritten by his single-minded focus 
(comes out in every one of his speeches no matter what the topic) to take down 
and disable the "wealth structure" and "make them pay." It's global, not 
limited to the U.S. and he won't be able to start making inroads into it 
"locally" (U.S.) without a major and sustained "revolution" on the part of the 
American people.  We aren't there, we aren't even close.  He should throw his 
support behind Hillary, when the time comes.  And then, yes, keep the ball 
rolling with activism at the ground level, for the votes for our elected 
representatives, for continuing to educate the masses and the millennials that 
think he's a cutie pie.      


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. 

Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. 
This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They 
are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She 
could never beat Trump.
But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to 
win.


  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself!


   From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <F

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-25 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Wow! In this case, she should do all she can to help the Democratic Party by 
throwing her support behind Bernie.


  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 11:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
   
    Wrong Anne. Anybody but Hillary or an avowed socialist. Besides, Hillary is 
under some serious investigation by the FBI right now. One hundred and fifty 
FBI agents are investigating her right now and a federal judge wants her 
server. She didn't delete 30,000 e-mails of yoga routines and wedding plans. 
That's called *obstruction of justice*. Obama can't pardon her because she 
hasn't been tried and convicted and if he refuses to indict her after an FBI 
recommendation to, all hell will break loose.


  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 9:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
  
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. 

Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. 
This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They 
are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She 
could never beat Trump.
But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to 
win.

This will never happen. Hillary will be our next President. Bernie scares too 
many who are irrationally afraid of "socialists" and there are not enough crazy 
Republicans to secure Trump as the next White House resident - I can see it 
now; everything done in Rococo style with plenty of dripping gold furniture and 
fixtures.

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself!


   From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time and 
he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the school 
yard.  I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward 
foolsliars, all of you.  Wimps, weak.  I bet you couldn't pass a bill if 
you tried.  The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget.  I'll make 
sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see 
those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night.  Heck, 
I'll do it myself.  I don't need you.  I have a billion dollars. I can run this 
country by myself.  I'm comin' for you, don't forget.  I'll sue the pants off 
of you.  I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses.  Watch 
your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway."  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists and 
any other  problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound familiar?


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to 
deliver.  Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together.  He just 
thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold 
plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build things 
right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves to 
their parent countries voluntarily.  All on Day 1.  What a guy.  
Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho.  Have you looked at the 
particulars?  I like it.  However, he's bound and determined to get it and 
everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current 
time and won't in the near future. "  The cost of this $75 billion a year plan 
is fully paid for by imposing a tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street 
speculators who nearly destroyed the economy seven years ago. "


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than H

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-25 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
He SOUNDS radical which is mainly what will influence most voters at this time 
in history. Few will go hunting down his past support of liberal causes, etc. 
As for being a wheeler dealer, I've heard that said about LBJ. 
People feel safe with a winner. As I said to Emily, this whole business of 
voting comes from very primal places in the psyche. Logic and reason have 
little to do with it for many voters.
  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 11:23 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
   
    Trump isn't radical. Just sounds that way because he comes off as an 
American version of Benito Mussolini. He's going to *make the trains run on 
time* kind of guy. He has supported a lot of liberal causes in the past and I 
doubt he has really changed. He is far more liberal than conservative but he 
knows how to *sell* himself.
What I think makes this guy *dangerous* is how he will govern. He says he has 
mastered the *art of the deal* and that is how he will handle congress. "Give 
me what I want as a Republican or I'll give the Democrats what they want and 
make Republicans sorry that they didn't work with me". Democrats will be 
chomping at the bit to stick it to Republicans. This will work both ways, just 
depends on who has the majority in congress. He cares more about *winning* than 
conservative or liberal principals.



  From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:00 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
  
    But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. 

Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. 
This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They 
are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She 
could never beat Trump.
But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to 
win.


  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
  
    Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself!


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
  
    Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time 
and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the 
school yard.  I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward 
foolsliars, all of you.  Wimps, weak.  I bet you couldn't pass a bill if 
you tried.  The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget.  I'll make 
sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see 
those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night.  Heck, 
I'll do it myself.  I don't need you.  I have a billion dollars. I can run this 
country by myself.  I'm comin' for you, don't forget.  I'll sue the pants off 
of you.  I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses.  Watch 
your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway."  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists and 
any other  problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound familiar?


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to 
deliver.  Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together.  He just 
thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold 
plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build things 
right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves to 
their parent countries voluntarily.  All on Day 1.  What a guy.  
Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho.  Have you looked at the 
particulars?  I like it.  However, he's bound and determined to get it and 
everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current 
time and won't in the near future. &q

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-25 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Wrong Anne. Anybody but Hillary or an avowed socialist. Besides, Hillary is 
under some serious investigation by the FBI right now. One hundred and fifty 
FBI agents are investigating her right now and a federal judge wants her 
server. She didn't delete 30,000 e-mails of yoga routines and wedding plans. 
That's called *obstruction of justice*. Obama can't pardon her because she 
hasn't been tried and convicted and if he refuses to indict her after an FBI 
recommendation to, all hell will break loose.


  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 9:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. 

Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. 
This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They 
are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She 
could never beat Trump.
But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to 
win.

This will never happen. Hillary will be our next President. Bernie scares too 
many who are irrationally afraid of "socialists" and there are not enough crazy 
Republicans to secure Trump as the next White House resident - I can see it 
now; everything done in Rococo style with plenty of dripping gold furniture and 
fixtures.

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself!


   From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time and 
he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the school 
yard.  I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward 
foolsliars, all of you.  Wimps, weak.  I bet you couldn't pass a bill if 
you tried.  The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget.  I'll make 
sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see 
those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night.  Heck, 
I'll do it myself.  I don't need you.  I have a billion dollars. I can run this 
country by myself.  I'm comin' for you, don't forget.  I'll sue the pants off 
of you.  I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses.  Watch 
your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway."  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists and 
any other  problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound familiar?


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to 
deliver.  Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together.  He just 
thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold 
plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build things 
right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves to 
their parent countries voluntarily.  All on Day 1.  What a guy.  
Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho.  Have you looked at the 
particulars?  I like it.  However, he's bound and determined to get it and 
everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current 
time and won't in the near future. "  The cost of this $75 billion a year plan 
is fully paid for by imposing a tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street 
speculators who nearly destroyed the economy seven years ago. "


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to 
offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower 
interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote 
for?
When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald 
the end of the republic.
Benjamin Franklin.
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoog

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-25 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Share, you are a woman in this life and a smart one, a fighter.  :)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 What you say is very logical and makes a lot of sense. However, most people 
operate from a different place than logic and sense, esp when it comes to 
politics which is so much about perception and unconscious motivations, even 
primal ones.
 

 My guess is most Americans don't like a smart woman. And they certainly don't 
like a smart woman who's also a "fighter." They like women who are like Sanders 
wife, very comforting and motherly. Or Melania who's gorgeous and supportive of 
her family. Again, these are very primal currents in the human psyche.

 
 Another factor which plays out on the subliminal level, is that Hillary looks 
like a Republican wife! Or Margaret Thatcher! As it is, we live in a very 
visual culture and these cues operate on very unconscious levels. Over and over 
and over again.  

 

 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 10:14 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 
   I see it oppositely to you.  Hillary could win and she could beat Trump.  
She is a fighter—one should never underestimate the power of woman of intention 
when she sets her mind to something. Hillary is a survivor and she is 
intelligent and knowledgable and experienced and dedicated.  She is well spoken 
and she's thoughtful. She missteps here and there and because her every facial 
expression is being subjected to negative scrutiny and pronouncement and sexist 
attack, she suffers in the media.  Her tone is sometimes off and her slogan and 
logo aren't the best.  But, let us remember we aren't electing a slogan or a 
logo.  I think she needs to blow by and play past the accusations and just 
laugh at the jokesters and let these things roll off her back a bit more.  Stay 
focused on the positive message exclusively and the depth and intelligence she 
would bring to the White House. Relax, be herself and go for it.  Bernie's 
better at just letting it all hang out.  He doesn't apologize for himself and 
neither does Trump.  She needs to stop explaining and start campaigning with 
unbounded enthusiasm everywhere she goes, making sure that her message is not 
about herself, but about the people.  I think it is, honestly, but she needs to 
change her campaign message and her delivery and her demeanor some and stay on 
point. "Illegitimum non carborundum." She's breaking new ground.   
 

 Bernie is primarily an activist and a good one who communicates his message 
clearly, but all his great ideas are underwritten by his single-minded focus 
(comes out in every one of his speeches no matter what the topic) to take down 
and disable the "wealth structure" and "make them pay." It's global, not 
limited to the U.S. and he won't be able to start making inroads into it 
"locally" (U.S.) without a major and sustained "revolution" on the part of the 
American people.  We aren't there, we aren't even close.  He should throw his 
support behind Hillary, when the time comes.  And then, yes, keep the ball 
rolling with activism at the ground level, for the votes for our elected 
representatives, for continuing to educate the masses and the millennials that 
think he's a cutie pie.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. 

 

 Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. 
This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They 
are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She 
could never beat Trump.
 

 But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to 
win.

 
 


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   
 Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself!
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time 
and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the 
school yard.  I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward 
foolsliars, all of you.  Wimps, weak.  I bet you couldn't pass a bill if 
you tried.  The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget.  I'll make 
sure that all 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-25 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
What you say is very logical and makes a lot of sense. However, most people 
operate from a different place than logic and sense, esp when it comes to 
politics which is so much about perception and unconscious motivations, even 
primal ones.
My guess is most Americans don't like a smart woman. And they certainly don't 
like a smart woman who's also a "fighter." They like women who are like Sanders 
wife, very comforting and motherly. Or Melania who's gorgeous and supportive of 
her family. Again, these are very primal currents in the human psyche.

Another factor which plays out on the subliminal level, is that Hillary looks 
like a Republican wife! Or Margaret Thatcher! As it is, we live in a very 
visual culture and these cues operate on very unconscious levels. Over and over 
and over again.  


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 10:14 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
   
    I see it oppositely to you.  Hillary could win and she could beat Trump.  
She is a fighter—one should never underestimate the power of woman of intention 
when she sets her mind to something. Hillary is a survivor and she is 
intelligent and knowledgable and experienced and dedicated.  She is well spoken 
and she's thoughtful. She missteps here and there and because her every facial 
expression is being subjected to negative scrutiny and pronouncement and sexist 
attack, she suffers in the media.  Her tone is sometimes off and her slogan and 
logo aren't the best.  But, let us remember we aren't electing a slogan or a 
logo.  I think she needs to blow by and play past the accusations and just 
laugh at the jokesters and let these things roll off her back a bit more.  Stay 
focused on the positive message exclusively and the depth and intelligence she 
would bring to the White House. Relax, be herself and go for it.  Bernie's 
better at just letting it all hang out.  He doesn't apologize for himself and 
neither does Trump.  She needs to stop explaining and start campaigning with 
unbounded enthusiasm everywhere she goes, making sure that her message is not 
about herself, but about the people.  I think it is, honestly, but she needs to 
change her campaign message and her delivery and her demeanor some and stay on 
point. "Illegitimum non carborundum." She's breaking new ground.   
Bernie is primarily an activist and a good one who communicates his message 
clearly, but all his great ideas are underwritten by his single-minded focus 
(comes out in every one of his speeches no matter what the topic) to take down 
and disable the "wealth structure" and "make them pay." It's global, not 
limited to the U.S. and he won't be able to start making inroads into it 
"locally" (U.S.) without a major and sustained "revolution" on the part of the 
American people.  We aren't there, we aren't even close.  He should throw his 
support behind Hillary, when the time comes.  And then, yes, keep the ball 
rolling with activism at the ground level, for the votes for our elected 
representatives, for continuing to educate the masses and the millennials that 
think he's a cutie pie.      


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. 

Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. 
This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They 
are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She 
could never beat Trump.
But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to 
win.


  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself!


   From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time and 
he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the school 
yard.  I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward 
foolsliars, all of you.  Wimps, weak.  I bet you couldn't pass a bill if 
you tried.  The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget.  I'll make 
sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see 
those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night.  Heck, 
I'll do it myself.  I d

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-25 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Trump isn't radical. Just sounds that way because he comes off as an American 
version of Benito Mussolini. He's going to *make the trains run on time* kind 
of guy. He has supported a lot of liberal causes in the past and I doubt he has 
really changed. He is far more liberal than conservative but he knows how to 
*sell* himself.
What I think makes this guy *dangerous* is how he will govern. He says he has 
mastered the *art of the deal* and that is how he will handle congress. "Give 
me what I want as a Republican or I'll give the Democrats what they want and 
make Republicans sorry that they didn't work with me". Democrats will be 
chomping at the bit to stick it to Republicans. This will work both ways, just 
depends on who has the majority in congress. He cares more about *winning* than 
conservative or liberal principals.



  From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:00 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
   
    But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. 

Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. 
This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They 
are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She 
could never beat Trump.
But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to 
win.


  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
  
    Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself!


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
  
    Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time 
and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the 
school yard.  I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward 
foolsliars, all of you.  Wimps, weak.  I bet you couldn't pass a bill if 
you tried.  The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget.  I'll make 
sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see 
those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night.  Heck, 
I'll do it myself.  I don't need you.  I have a billion dollars. I can run this 
country by myself.  I'm comin' for you, don't forget.  I'll sue the pants off 
of you.  I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses.  Watch 
your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway."  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists and 
any other  problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound familiar?


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to 
deliver.  Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together.  He just 
thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold 
plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build things 
right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves to 
their parent countries voluntarily.  All on Day 1.  What a guy.  
Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho.  Have you looked at the 
particulars?  I like it.  However, he's bound and determined to get it and 
everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current 
time and won't in the near future. "  The cost of this $75 billion a year plan 
is fully paid for by imposing a tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street 
speculators who nearly destroyed the economy seven years ago. "


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to 
offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower 
interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote 
for?
When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald 
the end of the republic.
Benjamin Franklin.
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-25 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I see it oppositely to you.  Hillary could win and she could beat Trump.  She 
is a fighter—one should never underestimate the power of woman of intention 
when she sets her mind to something. Hillary is a survivor and she is 
intelligent and knowledgable and experienced and dedicated.  She is well spoken 
and she's thoughtful. She missteps here and there and because her every facial 
expression is being subjected to negative scrutiny and pronouncement and sexist 
attack, she suffers in the media.  Her tone is sometimes off and her slogan and 
logo aren't the best.  But, let us remember we aren't electing a slogan or a 
logo.  I think she needs to blow by and play past the accusations and just 
laugh at the jokesters and let these things roll off her back a bit more.  Stay 
focused on the positive message exclusively and the depth and intelligence she 
would bring to the White House. Relax, be herself and go for it.  Bernie's 
better at just letting it all hang out.  He doesn't apologize for himself and 
neither does Trump.  She needs to stop explaining and start campaigning with 
unbounded enthusiasm everywhere she goes, making sure that her message is not 
about herself, but about the people.  I think it is, honestly, but she needs to 
change her campaign message and her delivery and her demeanor some and stay on 
point. "Illegitimum non carborundum." She's breaking new ground.

 Bernie is primarily an activist and a good one who communicates his message 
clearly, but all his great ideas are underwritten by his single-minded focus 
(comes out in every one of his speeches no matter what the topic) to take down 
and disable the "wealth structure" and "make them pay." It's global, not 
limited to the U.S. and he won't be able to start making inroads into it 
"locally" (U.S.) without a major and sustained "revolution" on the part of the 
American people.  We aren't there, we aren't even close.  He should throw his 
support behind Hillary, when the time comes.  And then, yes, keep the ball 
rolling with activism at the ground level, for the votes for our elected 
representatives, for continuing to educate the masses and the millennials that 
think he's a cutie pie.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. 

 

 Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. 
This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They 
are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She 
could never beat Trump.
 

 But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to 
win.

 
 


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 
   
 Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself!
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time 
and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the 
school yard.  I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward 
foolsliars, all of you.  Wimps, weak.  I bet you couldn't pass a bill if 
you tried.  The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget.  I'll make 
sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see 
those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night.  Heck, 
I'll do it myself.  I don't need you.  I have a billion dollars. I can run this 
country by myself.  I'm comin' for you, don't forget.  I'll sue the pants off 
of you.  I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses.  Watch 
your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway."  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists 
and any other  problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound 
familiar?
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able 
to deliver.  Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together.  He 
just thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his 
gold plated trumpet and magically, the econom

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-25 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ah ha...except that line would apply to a Trump presidency at the onset for 
everything and everyone (Republicans and Democrats both), versus on select 
decisions after Obama's multiple years of intention and attempts to work "with" 
the Republicans in Congress—who simply were not able to stand up and 
participate in the "the art of the deal."  (That title cracks me up; I haven't 
read the book and won't, but can imagine Trump's take on it and the tactics he 
likely deploys.)  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself!
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 
   Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time 
and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the 
school yard.  I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward 
foolsliars, all of you.  Wimps, weak.  I bet you couldn't pass a bill if 
you tried.  The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget.  I'll make 
sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see 
those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night.  Heck, 
I'll do it myself.  I don't need you.  I have a billion dollars. I can run this 
country by myself.  I'm comin' for you, don't forget.  I'll sue the pants off 
of you.  I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses.  Watch 
your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway."  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists 
and any other  problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound 
familiar?
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able 
to deliver.  Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together.  He 
just thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his 
gold plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build 
things right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves 
to their parent countries voluntarily.  All on Day 1.  What a guy.  
 

 Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho.  Have you looked at the 
particulars?  I like it.  However, he's bound and determined to get it and 
everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current 
time and won't in the near future. 
 "  The cost of this $75 billion a year plan is fully paid for by imposing a 
tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street speculators who nearly destroyed 
the economy seven years ago. "
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants 
to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower 
interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote 
for?
 
 When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald 
the end of the republic.
Benjamin Franklin.

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   You know, he makes some excellent points.  It is true that Hillary is not a 
great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the 
time.  Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people.  
They say it's about her.  It is true that Trump will do everything he can to 
lynch her and he won't let up.  If she defends, she loses.  He will continue to 
play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that 
isn't talked about, but that surely exists in the minds of both men and women.  
The undermining has already started and has been quite effective.  I will agree 
that the more interesting match that would force us to choose ideologically 
would be a Sanders/Trump choice.  SuperTuesday is around the corner.   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 This is a very well argued article saying that Clinton cannot beat Trump but 
Sanders can. 

Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nomination Means a Trump Presidency | 
Current Affairs 
http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nominati

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-25 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. 

 

 Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. 
This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They 
are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She 
could never beat Trump.
 

 But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to 
win.

 

 This will never happen. Hillary will be our next President. Bernie scares too 
many who are irrationally afraid of "socialists" and there are not enough crazy 
Republicans to secure Trump as the next White House resident - I can see it 
now; everything done in Rococo style with plenty of dripping gold furniture and 
fixtures.
 
 


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 
   
 Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself!
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time 
and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the 
school yard.  I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward 
foolsliars, all of you.  Wimps, weak.  I bet you couldn't pass a bill if 
you tried.  The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget.  I'll make 
sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see 
those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night.  Heck, 
I'll do it myself.  I don't need you.  I have a billion dollars. I can run this 
country by myself.  I'm comin' for you, don't forget.  I'll sue the pants off 
of you.  I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses.  Watch 
your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway."  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists 
and any other  problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound 
familiar?
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able 
to deliver.  Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together.  He 
just thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his 
gold plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build 
things right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves 
to their parent countries voluntarily.  All on Day 1.  What a guy.  
 

 Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho.  Have you looked at the 
particulars?  I like it.  However, he's bound and determined to get it and 
everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current 
time and won't in the near future. 
 "  The cost of this $75 billion a year plan is fully paid for by imposing a 
tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street speculators who nearly destroyed 
the economy seven years ago. "
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants 
to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower 
interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote 
for?
 
 When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald 
the end of the republic.
Benjamin Franklin.

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   You know, he makes some excellent points.  It is true that Hillary is not a 
great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the 
time.  Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people.  
They say it's about her.  It is true that Trump will do everything he can to 
lynch her and he won't let up.  If she defends, she loses.  He will continue to 
play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that 
isn't talked about, but that surely exists in the minds of both men and women.  
The undermining has already started

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-25 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. 

Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. 
This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They 
are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She 
could never beat Trump.
But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to 
win.


  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
   
    Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself!


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
  
    Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time 
and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the 
school yard.  I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward 
foolsliars, all of you.  Wimps, weak.  I bet you couldn't pass a bill if 
you tried.  The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget.  I'll make 
sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see 
those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night.  Heck, 
I'll do it myself.  I don't need you.  I have a billion dollars. I can run this 
country by myself.  I'm comin' for you, don't forget.  I'll sue the pants off 
of you.  I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses.  Watch 
your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway."  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists and 
any other  problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound familiar?


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to 
deliver.  Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together.  He just 
thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold 
plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build things 
right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves to 
their parent countries voluntarily.  All on Day 1.  What a guy.  
Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho.  Have you looked at the 
particulars?  I like it.  However, he's bound and determined to get it and 
everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current 
time and won't in the near future. "  The cost of this $75 billion a year plan 
is fully paid for by imposing a tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street 
speculators who nearly destroyed the economy seven years ago. "


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to 
offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower 
interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote 
for?
When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald 
the end of the republic.
Benjamin Franklin.
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 You know, he makes some excellent points.  It is true that Hillary is not a 
great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the 
time.  Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people.  
They say it's about her.  It is true that Trump will do everything he can to 
lynch her and he won't let up.  If she defends, she loses.  He will continue to 
play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that 
isn't talked about, but that surely exists in the minds of both men and women.  
The undermining has already started and has been quite effective.  I will agree 
that the more interesting match that would force us to choose ideologically 
would be a Sanders/Trump choice.  SuperTuesday is around the corner.   


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

This is a very well argued article saying that Clinton cannot beat Trump but 
Sanders can. 

Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nomination

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-25 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself!


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
   
    Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time 
and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the 
school yard.  I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward 
foolsliars, all of you.  Wimps, weak.  I bet you couldn't pass a bill if 
you tried.  The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget.  I'll make 
sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see 
those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night.  Heck, 
I'll do it myself.  I don't need you.  I have a billion dollars. I can run this 
country by myself.  I'm comin' for you, don't forget.  I'll sue the pants off 
of you.  I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses.  Watch 
your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway."  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists and 
any other  problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound familiar?


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to 
deliver.  Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together.  He just 
thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold 
plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build things 
right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves to 
their parent countries voluntarily.  All on Day 1.  What a guy.  
Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho.  Have you looked at the 
particulars?  I like it.  However, he's bound and determined to get it and 
everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current 
time and won't in the near future. "  The cost of this $75 billion a year plan 
is fully paid for by imposing a tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street 
speculators who nearly destroyed the economy seven years ago. "


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to 
offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower 
interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote 
for?
When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald 
the end of the republic.
Benjamin Franklin.
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 You know, he makes some excellent points.  It is true that Hillary is not a 
great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the 
time.  Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people.  
They say it's about her.  It is true that Trump will do everything he can to 
lynch her and he won't let up.  If she defends, she loses.  He will continue to 
play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that 
isn't talked about, but that surely exists in the minds of both men and women.  
The undermining has already started and has been quite effective.  I will agree 
that the more interesting match that would force us to choose ideologically 
would be a Sanders/Trump choice.  SuperTuesday is around the corner.   


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

This is a very well argued article saying that Clinton cannot beat Trump but 
Sanders can. 

Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nomination Means a Trump Presidency | 
Current Affairs
|  |
|  | |  | Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nominati... With 
Donald Trump lookingincreasinglylikely to actually be the Republican nominee 
for President, it’s long past time for the Democrats to sta... |  |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-25 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hmmm, then you should be pulling for his nomination.How could enough people 
vote for him to get elected?


  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote :

Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to 
deliver.  Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together.  He just 
thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold 
plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build things 
right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves to 
their parent countries voluntarily.  All on Day 1.  What a guy.  
I know. I had that thought as well. I don't think he has considered any of 
this. In fact, his bid for the White House appears as if it started out as some 
sort of lark that has gotten out of hand - even he didn't think it would get 
this far. But here we are; Trump will get the Republican nomination (my 
prediction, unless there are videos of him molesting children or gutting 
puppies) but he won't get elected. I am confident of this. However, if there 
was a way to measure the collective anxiety of all of the Trump haters, I think 
they would find that there is real anxiety, real angst within the population 
right now. I mean, it is a real thing, I'm feeling it and although I have 
chosen Canada as my home it will effect us all if he were to actually become 
President (which he won't). Am I in denial? Maybe.

Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho.  Have you looked at the 
particulars?  I like it.  However, he's bound and determined to get it and 
everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current 
time and won't in the near future. "  The cost of this $75 billion a year plan 
is fully paid for by imposing a tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street 
speculators who nearly destroyed the economy seven years ago. "


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to 
offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower 
interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote 
for?
When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald 
the end of the republic.
Benjamin Franklin.
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 You know, he makes some excellent points.  It is true that Hillary is not a 
great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the 
time.  Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people.  
They say it's about her.  It is true that Trump will do everything he can to 
lynch her and he won't let up.  If she defends, she loses.  He will continue to 
play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that 
isn't talked about, but that surely exists in the minds of both men and women.  
The undermining has already started and has been quite effective.  I will agree 
that the more interesting match that would force us to choose ideologically 
would be a Sanders/Trump choice.  SuperTuesday is around the corner.   


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

This is a very well argued article saying that Clinton cannot beat Trump but 
Sanders can. 

Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nomination Means a Trump Presidency | 
Current Affairs
|  |
|  | |  | Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nominati... With 
Donald Trump lookingincreasinglylikely to actually be the Republican nominee 
for President, it’s long past time for the Democrats to sta... |  |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-24 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time and 
he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the school 
yard.  I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward 
foolsliars, all of you.  Wimps, weak.  I bet you couldn't pass a bill if 
you tried.  The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget.  I'll make 
sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see 
those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night.  Heck, 
I'll do it myself.  I don't need you.  I have a billion dollars. I can run this 
country by myself.  I'm comin' for you, don't forget.  I'll sue the pants off 
of you.  I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses.  Watch 
your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway."  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists 
and any other  problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound 
familiar?
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 
   Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able 
to deliver.  Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together.  He 
just thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his 
gold plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build 
things right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves 
to their parent countries voluntarily.  All on Day 1.  What a guy.  
 

 Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho.  Have you looked at the 
particulars?  I like it.  However, he's bound and determined to get it and 
everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current 
time and won't in the near future. 
 "  The cost of this $75 billion a year plan is fully paid for by imposing a 
tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street speculators who nearly destroyed 
the economy seven years ago. "
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants 
to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower 
interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote 
for?
 
 When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald 
the end of the republic.
Benjamin Franklin.

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

 
   You know, he makes some excellent points.  It is true that Hillary is not a 
great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the 
time.  Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people.  
They say it's about her.  It is true that Trump will do everything he can to 
lynch her and he won't let up.  If she defends, she loses.  He will continue to 
play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that 
isn't talked about, but that surely exists in the minds of both men and women.  
The undermining has already started and has been quite effective.  I will agree 
that the more interesting match that would force us to choose ideologically 
would be a Sanders/Trump choice.  SuperTuesday is around the corner.   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 This is a very well argued article saying that Clinton cannot beat Trump but 
Sanders can. 

Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nomination Means a Trump Presidency | 
Current Affairs 
http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency
 
 
 
http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency
 
 Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nominati... 
http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency
 With Donald Trump lookingincreasinglylikely to actually be the Republican 
nominee for President, it’s long past time for the Democrats to sta...


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-24 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to 
deliver.  Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together.  He just 
thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold 
plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build things 
right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves to 
their parent countries voluntarily.  All on Day 1.  What a guy.  
 

 I know. I had that thought as well. I don't think he has considered any of 
this. In fact, his bid for the White House appears as if it started out as some 
sort of lark that has gotten out of hand - even he didn't think it would get 
this far. But here we are; Trump will get the Republican nomination (my 
prediction, unless there are videos of him molesting children or gutting 
puppies) but he won't get elected. I am confident of this. However, if there 
was a way to measure the collective anxiety of all of the Trump haters, I think 
they would find that there is real anxiety, real angst within the population 
right now. I mean, it is a real thing, I'm feeling it and although I have 
chosen Canada as my home it will effect us all if he were to actually become 
President (which he won't). Am I in denial? Maybe.
 

 Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho.  Have you looked at the 
particulars?  I like it.  However, he's bound and determined to get it and 
everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current 
time and won't in the near future. 
 "  The cost of this $75 billion a year plan is fully paid for by imposing a 
tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street speculators who nearly destroyed 
the economy seven years ago. "
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants 
to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower 
interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote 
for?
 
 When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald 
the end of the republic.
Benjamin Franklin.

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 
   You know, he makes some excellent points.  It is true that Hillary is not a 
great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the 
time.  Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people.  
They say it's about her.  It is true that Trump will do everything he can to 
lynch her and he won't let up.  If she defends, she loses.  He will continue to 
play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that 
isn't talked about, but that surely exists in the minds of both men and women.  
The undermining has already started and has been quite effective.  I will agree 
that the more interesting match that would force us to choose ideologically 
would be a Sanders/Trump choice.  SuperTuesday is around the corner.   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This is a very well argued article saying that Clinton cannot beat Trump but 
Sanders can. 

Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nomination Means a Trump Presidency | 
Current Affairs 
http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency
 
 
 
http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency
 
 Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nominati... 
http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency
 With Donald Trump lookingincreasinglylikely to actually be the Republican 
nominee for President, it’s long past time for the Democrats to sta...


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-24 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists and 
any other  problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound familiar?


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
   
    Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able 
to deliver.  Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together.  He 
just thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his 
gold plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build 
things right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves 
to their parent countries voluntarily.  All on Day 1.  What a guy.  
Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho.  Have you looked at the 
particulars?  I like it.  However, he's bound and determined to get it and 
everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current 
time and won't in the near future. "  The cost of this $75 billion a year plan 
is fully paid for by imposing a tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street 
speculators who nearly destroyed the economy seven years ago. "


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to 
offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower 
interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote 
for?
When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald 
the end of the republic.
Benjamin Franklin.
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 You know, he makes some excellent points.  It is true that Hillary is not a 
great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the 
time.  Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people.  
They say it's about her.  It is true that Trump will do everything he can to 
lynch her and he won't let up.  If she defends, she loses.  He will continue to 
play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that 
isn't talked about, but that surely exists in the minds of both men and women.  
The undermining has already started and has been quite effective.  I will agree 
that the more interesting match that would force us to choose ideologically 
would be a Sanders/Trump choice.  SuperTuesday is around the corner.   


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

This is a very well argued article saying that Clinton cannot beat Trump but 
Sanders can. 

Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nomination Means a Trump Presidency | 
Current Affairs
|  |
|  | |  | Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nominati... With 
Donald Trump lookingincreasinglylikely to actually be the Republican nominee 
for President, it’s long past time for the Democrats to sta... |  |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-24 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to 
deliver.  Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together.  He just 
thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold 
plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build things 
right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves to 
their parent countries voluntarily.  All on Day 1.  What a guy.   

 Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho.  Have you looked at the 
particulars?  I like it.  However, he's bound and determined to get it and 
everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current 
time and won't in the near future. 
 "  The cost of this $75 billion a year plan is fully paid for by imposing a 
tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street speculators who nearly destroyed 
the economy seven years ago. "
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants 
to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower 
interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote 
for?
 
 When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald 
the end of the republic.
Benjamin Franklin.

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
 
 
   You know, he makes some excellent points.  It is true that Hillary is not a 
great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the 
time.  Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people.  
They say it's about her.  It is true that Trump will do everything he can to 
lynch her and he won't let up.  If she defends, she loses.  He will continue to 
play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that 
isn't talked about, but that surely exists in the minds of both men and women.  
The undermining has already started and has been quite effective.  I will agree 
that the more interesting match that would force us to choose ideologically 
would be a Sanders/Trump choice.  SuperTuesday is around the corner.   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This is a very well argued article saying that Clinton cannot beat Trump but 
Sanders can. 

Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nomination Means a Trump Presidency | 
Current Affairs 
http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency
 
 
 
http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency
 
 Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nominati... 
http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency
 With Donald Trump lookingincreasinglylikely to actually be the Republican 
nominee for President, it’s long past time for the Democrats to sta...


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article

2016-02-24 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to 
offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower 
interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote 
for?
When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald 
the end of the republic.
Benjamin Franklin.
  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
   
    You know, he makes some excellent points.  It is true that Hillary is not a 
great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the 
time.  Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people.  
They say it's about her.  It is true that Trump will do everything he can to 
lynch her and he won't let up.  If she defends, she loses.  He will continue to 
play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that 
isn't talked about, but that surely exists in the minds of both men and women.  
The undermining has already started and has been quite effective.  I will agree 
that the more interesting match that would force us to choose ideologically 
would be a Sanders/Trump choice.  SuperTuesday is around the corner.   


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

This is a very well argued article saying that Clinton cannot beat Trump but 
Sanders can. 

Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nomination Means a Trump Presidency | 
Current Affairs
|  |
|  | |  | Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nominati... With 
Donald Trump lookingincreasinglylikely to actually be the Republican nominee 
for President, it’s long past time for the Democrats to sta... |  |
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