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Reagan wasn't anti- government, just limited government as were the founding fathers. The more authority you give government, the less freedom you have as an individual. The idea that the uber wealthy don't work is the real fantasy. Some people work by the sweat of their brow, others with their intelligence and creativity. There is only so much a human body can do but the mind is limitless. The wealthy are starving the country? Please, they do more with their wealth to make your and my life better. They invent and manufacture things that make our lives easier all the time. They pay more in taxes yearly than you and I pay in a life time! As for the capitalist system, it has generated more wealth and brought more people out of poverty than any other economic system in history. Funny how Russia and China abandoned their centralized planned economies for capitalism and have become prosperous beyond belief and in such a short time. From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article I am advocating nothing of the sort. I don't begrudge the multi-billionaires, nor do I advocate taking away their money. I create wealth for others too, every time I consume a product or service, but that doesn't give me the right to pay fewer taxes. All of the anti-government rhetoric started by Reagan really leaves me cold too. This fantasy that the titans of industry and uber-wealthy who never work, are somehow smarter, and able to make better decisions for all of us, by starving the country they depend on, is something that has been tried throughout recorded history, and it didn't work any better then than it does now. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : They already pay/do their *fair share*! Not only do they pay taxes but they also invest in other businesses, creating more jobs, which in turn creates more tax payers but they also provide capital for others. They also contribute to charities, if not out of interest in helping others, then out of their own desire to reduce their own tax burden or *greed* as you would put it. They get to choose who they want to help with their tax deductions. Their money isn't just sitting in a vault doing nothing except collecting dust. The reason people who are predisposed to getting rich get rich, is that they know how to make their money work for them and it usually benefits many others as well. They generate more wealth, which in the long run benefits everyone. What you're advocating is taking their *seed* money and giving it to someone who will do little or nothing with. You can eat a hundred percent of your crop or you can save some to plant next season and make more. I say let them keep their wealth and manage it instead of letting a politician who only wants to buy votes to stay in power have it . From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 2:17 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Sounds like paranoia, Mike. Remember those old guys who insisted we escalate the Vietnam War (or as the Vietnamese call it, "The American War"), so that "The Domino Effect" would not occur? Sounds like the same baseless fear; if we raise the taxes on the ultra-wealthy, people so rich they couldn't spend their fortunes in 2,000 generations, the government will soon want it all. Delusional, greedy, and mentally ill. They can choose to participate in this country and pay their fair share like the rest of us, or be forced to. It is their choice. We'll see how long their wealth continues to insulate them from democracy. I am talking about the ones who are far, far wealthier than any CEO. Those corporate leaders use tax dodges too, but the uber-wealthy even make the multi-millionaires look like paupers. Wake up and smell the rip-off. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : And just how many CEO's do this, enough to finance all the programs Bernie wants? We're talking about a minuscule number of people out of a population of 350 million. You could confiscate all of their wealth and not have diddly for you guys want. All it amounts to is punishing success, getting even with someone who has more than others. Why would anyone work hard and take responsibility for a company, it's investors and employees if they were going to have the fruits of their labor taken from them? From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Right, for earned income. However on investment in
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
I am advocating nothing of the sort. I don't begrudge the multi-billionaires, nor do I advocate taking away their money. I create wealth for others too, every time I consume a product or service, but that doesn't give me the right to pay fewer taxes. All of the anti-government rhetoric started by Reagan really leaves me cold too. This fantasy that the titans of industry and uber-wealthy who never work, are somehow smarter, and able to make better decisions for all of us, by starving the country they depend on, is something that has been tried throughout recorded history, and it didn't work any better then than it does now. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : They already pay/do their *fair share*! Not only do they pay taxes but they also invest in other businesses, creating more jobs, which in turn creates more tax payers but they also provide capital for others. They also contribute to charities, if not out of interest in helping others, then out of their own desire to reduce their own tax burden or *greed* as you would put it. They get to choose who they want to help with their tax deductions. Their money isn't just sitting in a vault doing nothing except collecting dust. The reason people who are predisposed to getting rich get rich, is that they know how to make their money work for them and it usually benefits many others as well. They generate more wealth, which in the long run benefits everyone. What you're advocating is taking their *seed* money and giving it to someone who will do little or nothing with. You can eat a hundred percent of your crop or you can save some to plant next season and make more. I say let them keep their wealth and manage it instead of letting a politician who only wants to buy votes to stay in power have it . From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 2:17 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Sounds like paranoia, Mike. Remember those old guys who insisted we escalate the Vietnam War (or as the Vietnamese call it, "The American War"), so that "The Domino Effect" would not occur? Sounds like the same baseless fear; if we raise the taxes on the ultra-wealthy, people so rich they couldn't spend their fortunes in 2,000 generations, the government will soon want it all. Delusional, greedy, and mentally ill. They can choose to participate in this country and pay their fair share like the rest of us, or be forced to. It is their choice. We'll see how long their wealth continues to insulate them from democracy. I am talking about the ones who are far, far wealthier than any CEO. Those corporate leaders use tax dodges too, but the uber-wealthy even make the multi-millionaires look like paupers. Wake up and smell the rip-off. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : And just how many CEO's do this, enough to finance all the programs Bernie wants? We're talking about a minuscule number of people out of a population of 350 million. You could confiscate all of their wealth and not have diddly for you guys want. All it amounts to is punishing success, getting even with someone who has more than others. Why would anyone work hard and take responsibility for a company, it's investors and employees if they were going to have the fruits of their labor taken from them? From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Right, for earned income. However on investment income it is 17%. This is why many CEO's take a modest or even zero annual income, and a large amount of stock options instead. Tax advantage. To say nothing of the many multi-billionaires who don't work, deriving all of their income from investments. Tax advantage. They don't play by the same rules as the rest of us, and we have the most to lose as a result. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : You are aware that the current top bracket on income is about 39%. The 17% you refer to is, I believe, on trading stocks or dividends paid by stock holdings. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article The wealthy need to pay an equal percentage of taxes as the middle class - 30 to 40 percent of annual income. Of course it sounds like a lot when you say 70 percent of taxes are contributed by these multi-billionaires, but that would only make sense if they were making what we do. Since they make in a month what most make in a life-time,
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They already pay/do their *fair share*! Not only do they pay taxes but they also invest in other businesses, creating more jobs, which in turn creates more tax payers but they also provide capital for others. They also contribute to charities, if not out of interest in helping others, then out of their own desire to reduce their own tax burden or *greed* as you would put it. They get to choose who they want to help with their tax deductions. Their money isn't just sitting in a vault doing nothing except collecting dust. The reason people who are predisposed to getting rich get rich, is that they know how to make their money work for them and it usually benefits many others as well. They generate more wealth, which in the long run benefits everyone. What you're advocating is taking their *seed* money and giving it to someone who will do little or nothing with. You can eat a hundred percent of your crop or you can save some to plant next season and make more. I say let them keep their wealth and manage it instead of letting a politician who only wants to buy votes to stay in power have it . From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 2:17 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Sounds like paranoia, Mike. Remember those old guys who insisted we escalate the Vietnam War (or as the Vietnamese call it, "The American War"), so that "The Domino Effect" would not occur? Sounds like the same baseless fear; if we raise the taxes on the ultra-wealthy, people so rich they couldn't spend their fortunes in 2,000 generations, the government will soon want it all. Delusional, greedy, and mentally ill. They can choose to participate in this country and pay their fair share like the rest of us, or be forced to. It is their choice. We'll see how long their wealth continues to insulate them from democracy. I am talking about the ones who are far, far wealthier than any CEO. Those corporate leaders use tax dodges too, but the uber-wealthy even make the multi-millionaires look like paupers. Wake up and smell the rip-off. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : And just how many CEO's do this, enough to finance all the programs Bernie wants? We're talking about a minuscule number of people out of a population of 350 million. You could confiscate all of their wealth and not have diddly for you guys want. All it amounts to is punishing success, getting even with someone who has more than others. Why would anyone work hard and take responsibility for a company, it's investors and employees if they were going to have the fruits of their labor taken from them? From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Right, for earned income. However on investment income it is 17%. This is why many CEO's take a modest or even zero annual income, and a large amount of stock options instead. Tax advantage. To say nothing of the many multi-billionaires who don't work, deriving all of their income from investments. Tax advantage. They don't play by the same rules as the rest of us, and we have the most to lose as a result. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : You are aware that the current top bracket on income is about 39%. The 17% you refer to is, I believe, on trading stocks or dividends paid by stock holdings. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article The wealthy need to pay an equal percentage of taxes as the middle class - 30 to 40 percent of annual income. Of course it sounds like a lot when you say 70 percent of taxes are contributed by these multi-billionaires, but that would only make sense if they were making what we do. Since they make in a month what most make in a life-time, they can open their pockets a little wider than 17%. This idea you promote below, with the poor acting as leeches, is slight-of-hand propaganda - don't watch the endless corporate welfare, and crony capitalism, and tax evasion, instead focus on someone who is less fortunate, and stigmatize them as stealing from us all. Very cynical and anti-social, too. Those spreading such thinking are addicted to greed, projecting it on everyone but themselves. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Their *fair share*? And who determines what is fair? There we go again, *free* stuff! Nothing is free. Would *free* health care and education be enough? Hell no! Next it will be housing transport
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Sounds like paranoia, Mike. Remember those old guys who insisted we escalate the Vietnam War (or as the Vietnamese call it, "The American War"), so that "The Domino Effect" would not occur? Sounds like the same baseless fear; if we raise the taxes on the ultra-wealthy, people so rich they couldn't spend their fortunes in 2,000 generations, the government will soon want it all. Delusional, greedy, and mentally ill. They can choose to participate in this country and pay their fair share like the rest of us, or be forced to. It is their choice. We'll see how long their wealth continues to insulate them from democracy. I am talking about the ones who are far, far wealthier than any CEO. Those corporate leaders use tax dodges too, but the uber-wealthy even make the multi-millionaires look like paupers. Wake up and smell the rip-off. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : And just how many CEO's do this, enough to finance all the programs Bernie wants? We're talking about a minuscule number of people out of a population of 350 million. You could confiscate all of their wealth and not have diddly for you guys want. All it amounts to is punishing success, getting even with someone who has more than others. Why would anyone work hard and take responsibility for a company, it's investors and employees if they were going to have the fruits of their labor taken from them? From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Right, for earned income. However on investment income it is 17%. This is why many CEO's take a modest or even zero annual income, and a large amount of stock options instead. Tax advantage. To say nothing of the many multi-billionaires who don't work, deriving all of their income from investments. Tax advantage. They don't play by the same rules as the rest of us, and we have the most to lose as a result. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : You are aware that the current top bracket on income is about 39%. The 17% you refer to is, I believe, on trading stocks or dividends paid by stock holdings. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article The wealthy need to pay an equal percentage of taxes as the middle class - 30 to 40 percent of annual income. Of course it sounds like a lot when you say 70 percent of taxes are contributed by these multi-billionaires, but that would only make sense if they were making what we do. Since they make in a month what most make in a life-time, they can open their pockets a little wider than 17%. This idea you promote below, with the poor acting as leeches, is slight-of-hand propaganda - don't watch the endless corporate welfare, and crony capitalism, and tax evasion, instead focus on someone who is less fortunate, and stigmatize them as stealing from us all. Very cynical and anti-social, too. Those spreading such thinking are addicted to greed, projecting it on everyone but themselves. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Their *fair share*? And who determines what is fair? There we go again, *free* stuff! Nothing is free. Would *free* health care and education be enough? Hell no! Next it will be housing transportation, child care, energy, food, clothing, entertainment, drugs etc etc. And will all this stuff is *free* why the hell should I have to work? I want free vacation time, 24/7 365! Oh yeah, what's free vacation time without free spending money? I want a free master card with no limits! We already have a heavily regulated market and the wealthy *do* pay for 70% of the safety net. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article No one will actually hand anyone else any money when the rich pay their fair share of taxes. Free higher ed and health care would work though. There really isn't anything wrong with treating people humanely. If the wealthy insist on an unregulated market, then they can damned well provide a safety net for the millions of ordinary citizens who regularly fall through the ever more common cracks in the economy, by paying their fair share of taxes. Nothing radical about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : What do the uber- wealthy have to *give* you so that you can get ahead and be prosperous? You can give many people millions of dollars and in a few shor
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And just how many CEO's do this, enough to finance all the programs Bernie wants? We're talking about a minuscule number of people out of a population of 350 million. You could confiscate all of their wealth and not have diddly for you guys want. All it amounts to is punishing success, getting even with someone who has more than others. Why would anyone work hard and take responsibility for a company, it's investors and employees if they were going to have the fruits of their labor taken from them? From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Right, for earned income. However on investment income it is 17%. This is why many CEO's take a modest or even zero annual income, and a large amount of stock options instead. Tax advantage. To say nothing of the many multi-billionaires who don't work, deriving all of their income from investments. Tax advantage. They don't play by the same rules as the rest of us, and we have the most to lose as a result. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : You are aware that the current top bracket on income is about 39%. The 17% you refer to is, I believe, on trading stocks or dividends paid by stock holdings. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article The wealthy need to pay an equal percentage of taxes as the middle class - 30 to 40 percent of annual income. Of course it sounds like a lot when you say 70 percent of taxes are contributed by these multi-billionaires, but that would only make sense if they were making what we do. Since they make in a month what most make in a life-time, they can open their pockets a little wider than 17%. This idea you promote below, with the poor acting as leeches, is slight-of-hand propaganda - don't watch the endless corporate welfare, and crony capitalism, and tax evasion, instead focus on someone who is less fortunate, and stigmatize them as stealing from us all. Very cynical and anti-social, too. Those spreading such thinking are addicted to greed, projecting it on everyone but themselves. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Their *fair share*? And who determines what is fair? There we go again, *free* stuff! Nothing is free. Would *free* health care and education be enough? Hell no! Next it will be housing transportation, child care, energy, food, clothing, entertainment, drugs etc etc. And will all this stuff is *free* why the hell should I have to work? I want free vacation time, 24/7 365! Oh yeah, what's free vacation time without free spending money? I want a free master card with no limits! We already have a heavily regulated market and the wealthy *do* pay for 70% of the safety net. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article No one will actually hand anyone else any money when the rich pay their fair share of taxes. Free higher ed and health care would work though. There really isn't anything wrong with treating people humanely. If the wealthy insist on an unregulated market, then they can damned well provide a safety net for the millions of ordinary citizens who regularly fall through the ever more common cracks in the economy, by paying their fair share of taxes. Nothing radical about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : What do the uber- wealthy have to *give* you so that you can get ahead and be prosperous? You can give many people millions of dollars and in a few short years they are broke again.You can't give wisdom or management skills. They are learned. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article The uber-wealthy share of taxes paid is down to 17% of their income. I never paid a tax rate that low. Ever. Considering that they control 25% of the wealth of the entire country, they ought to pay much more than 17%. That is obscene. And the reason I refer to it mental illness, is that they have cornered not only this staggering amount of wealth, but the entire country is now rigged to increase their wealth, at our expense. We are not talking about a wealth of millions of dollars, a sum that would make the rest of us unimaginably rich. No, these are all multi-billionaires. A billion dollars is equal to a person living to a hundred years
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Right, for earned income. However on investment income it is 17%. This is why many CEO's take a modest or even zero annual income, and a large amount of stock options instead. Tax advantage. To say nothing of the many multi-billionaires who don't work, deriving all of their income from investments. Tax advantage. They don't play by the same rules as the rest of us, and we have the most to lose as a result. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : You are aware that the current top bracket on income is about 39%. The 17% you refer to is, I believe, on trading stocks or dividends paid by stock holdings. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article The wealthy need to pay an equal percentage of taxes as the middle class - 30 to 40 percent of annual income. Of course it sounds like a lot when you say 70 percent of taxes are contributed by these multi-billionaires, but that would only make sense if they were making what we do. Since they make in a month what most make in a life-time, they can open their pockets a little wider than 17%. This idea you promote below, with the poor acting as leeches, is slight-of-hand propaganda - don't watch the endless corporate welfare, and crony capitalism, and tax evasion, instead focus on someone who is less fortunate, and stigmatize them as stealing from us all. Very cynical and anti-social, too. Those spreading such thinking are addicted to greed, projecting it on everyone but themselves. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Their *fair share*? And who determines what is fair? There we go again, *free* stuff! Nothing is free. Would *free* health care and education be enough? Hell no! Next it will be housing transportation, child care, energy, food, clothing, entertainment, drugs etc etc. And will all this stuff is *free* why the hell should I have to work? I want free vacation time, 24/7 365! Oh yeah, what's free vacation time without free spending money? I want a free master card with no limits! We already have a heavily regulated market and the wealthy *do* pay for 70% of the safety net. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article No one will actually hand anyone else any money when the rich pay their fair share of taxes. Free higher ed and health care would work though. There really isn't anything wrong with treating people humanely. If the wealthy insist on an unregulated market, then they can damned well provide a safety net for the millions of ordinary citizens who regularly fall through the ever more common cracks in the economy, by paying their fair share of taxes. Nothing radical about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : What do the uber- wealthy have to *give* you so that you can get ahead and be prosperous? You can give many people millions of dollars and in a few short years they are broke again. You can't give wisdom or management skills. They are learned. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article The uber-wealthy share of taxes paid is down to 17% of their income. I never paid a tax rate that low. Ever. Considering that they control 25% of the wealth of the entire country, they ought to pay much more than 17%. That is obscene. And the reason I refer to it mental illness, is that they have cornered not only this staggering amount of wealth, but the entire country is now rigged to increase their wealth, at our expense. We are not talking about a wealth of millions of dollars, a sum that would make the rest of us unimaginably rich. No, these are all multi-billionaires. A billion dollars is equal to a person living to a hundred years of age, and spending ten million dollars annually, nearly a million bucks a month, from infancy. That is just ONE billion. Incomprehensible. Any time there is a bump in the economy, who benefits? The rest of us, who haven't seen wages rise in 55 years? Nope. Always the wealthy. We keep hearing from the servants of the rich, the media and politicians, how we are a mighty and wealthy country, a world super power, and yet the game is now so strongly rigged *against* the efforts of the populace to get ahead, to have stable, prosperous lives, that no one is listening. This could be easily fixed, by bumping the rate on taxable investments to say, 30 to 40%, what the middle class typically pays
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I chose the example because it was shown in a Frontline report years ago as the problem with the Chavez program. Chavez's administration should have worked out the problem of turning over companies to the workers. Someone still has to manage. And I wouldn't be surprised at all if Chavez knew that. It just didn't get implemented. Unfortunately a lot of supporters of socialistic governments are people with just theoretical not practical experience. They have a great idea but don't implement it well and it all falls down. Someday it will be done right. There is a similar problem in training college students for computer science. Most of the professors have not worked in the field so they are only teaching theory. The students are at a loss when they take a job and are being short changed if not mentored. Some companies like Google don't seem to like mentoring. They want some kind of "magic" to happen and have the money to waste on a "sandbox." But if the employee doesn't produce they are gone after a year. On 02/26/2016 02:36 PM, seekliberat...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Hugo Chavez was working at the executive level of decision-making. You can't expect him to pick up on a deficiency in mid-level or lower-level management. That's like Fox News and Sarah Palin trying to blame Obama for failures in the VA medical problems that occur regularly. At the end of the day, a society as a whole has to be developed, not just the leaderregardless of how ideal or enlightened his ideas seem. seekliberation.
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What I'm saying is, I'd rather somebody run things that knows what they are doing and has good management skills and has proven it. I don't want people managing things based on emotion and *their* particular sense of fairness. From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Wasn't TM supposed to be the solution to that? Of course if you can't afford TM then what would be the point? :-D You're saying that only an elite group should run the world? And... have you ever been a manager? I have. Actually a lot of companies throw people to the wolves when they make managers. We do now have some good training around but back in the day you had to "fake it." Turned out being a leader of a music group helped as well as teaching things. If I had it to do over again I would but be more black and white about expectations. On 02/26/2016 02:09 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: My point was that you can be given the world but if you can't manage your own life, you'll be broke again before you know it. Effective management also requires discipline, something many people just don't have. From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article This is the mistake that Hugo Chavez made. He turned over businesses to the workers but didn't train any of them to be a manager. You have to find the individual who will naturally be good at it and train them. I would also suggest a quick workshop for everyone in the business to find replacements and to keep check on the manager. What we are moving towards is a society of oligarchs running things and everyone else is their servant. That's very oppressive and should not be tolerated in any way whatsoever. On 02/26/2016 12:15 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Right, management skills can be learned but require discipline to make them effective. From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Management skills are simple. They can be taught in a few short hours. The balls to apply them is the hard part. The uber rich are often all balls and no reason. They just plow ahead like Mac truck slamming through a store and leaving a mess in it's wake. A massive correction is needed for the big party the uber rich have had and left the hotel room trashed. On 02/26/2016 07:05 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: What do the uber- wealthy have to *give* you so that you can get ahead and be prosperous? You can give many people millions of dollars and in a few short years they are broke again. You can't give wisdom or management skills. They are learned. From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article The uber-wealthy share of taxes paid is down to 17% of their income. I never paid a tax rate that low. Ever. Considering that they control 25% of the wealth of the entire country, they ought to pay much more than 17%. That is obscene. And the reason I refer to it mental illness, is that they have cornered not only this staggering amount of wealth, but the entire country is now rigged to increase their wealth, at our expense. We are not talking about a wealth of millions of dollars, a sum that would make the rest of us unimaginably rich. No, these are all multi-billionaires. A billion dollars is equal to a person living to a hundred years of age, and spending ten million dollars annually, nearly a million bucks a month, from infancy. That is just ONE billion. Incomprehensible. Any time there is a bump in the economy, who benefits? The rest of us, who haven't seen wages rise in 55 years? Nope. Always the wealthy. We keep hearing from the servants of the rich, the media and politicians, how we are a mighty and wealthy country, a world super power, and yet the game is now so strongly rigged *against* the efforts of the populace to get ahead, to have stable, prosperous lives, that no one is listening. This could be easily fixed, by bumping the rate on taxable investments to say, 30 to 40%, what the middle class typically pays of its stagnan
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Hugo Chavez was working at the executive level of decision-making. You can't expect him to pick up on a deficiency in mid-level or lower-level management. That's like Fox News and Sarah Palin trying to blame Obama for failures in the VA medical problems that occur regularly. At the end of the day, a society as a whole has to be developed, not just the leaderregardless of how ideal or enlightened his ideas seem. seekliberation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
Wasn't TM supposed to be the solution to that? Of course if you can't afford TM then what would be the point? :-D You're saying that only an elite group should run the world? And... have you ever been a manager? I have. Actually a lot of companies throw people to the wolves when they make managers. We do now have some good training around but back in the day you had to "fake it." Turned out being a leader of a music group helped as well as teaching things. If I had it to do over again I would but be more black and white about expectations. On 02/26/2016 02:09 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: My point was that you can be given the world but if you can't manage your own life, you'll be broke again before you know it. Effective management also requires discipline, something many people just don't have. *From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2016 3:11 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article This is the mistake that Hugo Chavez made. He turned over businesses to the workers but didn't train any of them to be a manager. You have to find the individual who will naturally be good at it and train them. I would also suggest a quick workshop for everyone in the business to find replacements and to keep check on the manager. What we are moving towards is a society of oligarchs running things and everyone else is their servant. That's very oppressive and should not be tolerated in any way whatsoever. On 02/26/2016 12:15 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com <mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote: Right, management skills can be learned but require discipline to make them effective. *From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net <mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net> [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2016 10:50 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Management skills are simple. They can be taught in a few short hours. The balls to apply them is the hard part. The uber rich are often all balls and no reason. They just plow ahead like Mac truck slamming through a store and leaving a mess in it's wake. A massive correction is needed for the big party the uber rich have had and left the hotel room trashed. On 02/26/2016 07:05 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com <mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote: What do the uber- wealthy have to *give* you so that you can get ahead and be prosperous? You can give many people millions of dollars and in a few short years they are broke again. You can't give wisdom or management skills. They are learned. *From:* "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <mailto:olliesed...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife]> <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2016 6:56 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article The uber-wealthy share of taxes paid is down to 17% of their income. I never paid a tax rate that low. Ever. Considering that they control 25% of the wealth of the entire country, they ought to pay much more than 17%. That is obscene. And the reason I refer to it mental illness, is that they have cornered not only this staggering amount of wealth, but the entire country is now rigged to increase their wealth, at our expense. We are not talking about a wealth of millions of dollars, a sum that would make the rest of us unimaginably rich. No, these are all multi-billionaires. A billion dollars is equal to a person living to a hundred years of age, and spending ten million dollars annually, nearly a million bucks a month, from infancy. That is just ONE billion. Incomprehensible. Any time there is a bump in the economy, who benefits? The rest of us, who haven't seen wages rise in 55 years? Nope. Always the wealthy. We keep hearing from the servants of the rich, the media and politicians, how we are a mighty and wealthy country, a world super power, and yet the game is now so strongly rigged *against* the efforts of the populace to get ahead, to have stable, prosperous lives, that no one is listening. This could be easily fixed, by bumping the rate on taxable investments to say, 30 to 40%, what the middle class typically pays of its stagnant wages to the Feds in taxes. Close some loophole
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You are aware that the current top bracket on income is about 39%. The 17% you refer to is, I believe, on trading stocks or dividends paid by stock holdings. From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article The wealthy need to pay an equal percentage of taxes as the middle class - 30 to 40 percent of annual income. Of course it sounds like a lot when you say 70 percent of taxes are contributed by these multi-billionaires, but that would only make sense if they were making what we do. Since they make in a month what most make in a life-time, they can open their pockets a little wider than 17%. This idea you promote below, with the poor acting as leeches, is slight-of-hand propaganda - don't watch the endless corporate welfare, and crony capitalism, and tax evasion, instead focus on someone who is less fortunate, and stigmatize them as stealing from us all. Very cynical and anti-social, too. Those spreading such thinking are addicted to greed, projecting it on everyone but themselves. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Their *fair share*? And who determines what is fair? There we go again, *free* stuff! Nothing is free. Would *free* health care and education be enough? Hell no! Next it will be housing transportation, child care, energy, food, clothing, entertainment, drugs etc etc. And will all this stuff is *free* why the hell should I have to work? I want free vacation time, 24/7 365! Oh yeah, what's free vacation time without free spending money? I want a free master card with no limits! We already have a heavily regulated market and the wealthy *do* pay for 70% of the safety net. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article No one will actually hand anyone else any money when the rich pay their fair share of taxes. Free higher ed and health care would work though. There really isn't anything wrong with treating people humanely. If the wealthy insist on an unregulated market, then they can damned well provide a safety net for the millions of ordinary citizens who regularly fall through the ever more common cracks in the economy, by paying their fair share of taxes. Nothing radical about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : What do the uber- wealthy have to *give* you so that you can get ahead and be prosperous? You can give many people millions of dollars and in a few short years they are broke again.You can't give wisdom or management skills. They are learned. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article The uber-wealthy share of taxes paid is down to 17% of their income. I never paid a tax rate that low. Ever. Considering that they control 25% of the wealth of the entire country, they ought to pay much more than 17%. That is obscene. And the reason I refer to it mental illness, is that they have cornered not only this staggering amount of wealth, but the entire country is now rigged to increase their wealth, at our expense. We are not talking about a wealth of millions of dollars, a sum that would make the rest of us unimaginably rich. No, these are all multi-billionaires. A billion dollars is equal to a person living to a hundred years of age, and spending ten million dollars annually, nearly a million bucks a month, from infancy. That is just ONE billion. Incomprehensible. Any time there is a bump in the economy, who benefits? The rest of us, who haven't seen wages rise in 55 years? Nope. Always the wealthy. We keep hearing from the servants of the rich, the media and politicians, how we are a mighty and wealthy country, a world super power, and yet the game is now so strongly rigged *against* the efforts of the populace to get ahead, to have stable, prosperous lives, that no one is listening. This could be easily fixed, by bumping the rate on taxable investments to say, 30 to 40%, what the middle class typically pays of its stagnant wages to the Feds in taxes. Close some loopholes too. I am not asking the one percent to contribute unfairly, only to the degree that the rest of us do. There should not be this unspoken rule, that once we achieve a certain level of wealth, we are then above the law. The truly galling thing about this, is the rich would never miss it, wouldn't even notice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : The wealthy pay less in taxes? C'mon now! The top 10% pay 70% of tax r
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My point was that you can be given the world but if you can't manage your own life, you'll be broke again before you know it. Effective management also requires discipline, something many people just don't have. From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article This is the mistake that Hugo Chavez made. He turned over businesses to the workers but didn't train any of them to be a manager. You have to find the individual who will naturally be good at it and train them. I would also suggest a quick workshop for everyone in the business to find replacements and to keep check on the manager. What we are moving towards is a society of oligarchs running things and everyone else is their servant. That's very oppressive and should not be tolerated in any way whatsoever. On 02/26/2016 12:15 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Right, management skills can be learned but require discipline to make them effective. From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Management skills are simple. They can be taught in a few short hours. The balls to apply them is the hard part. The uber rich are often all balls and no reason. They just plow ahead like Mac truck slamming through a store and leaving a mess in it's wake. A massive correction is needed for the big party the uber rich have had and left the hotel room trashed. On 02/26/2016 07:05 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: What do the uber- wealthy have to *give* you so that you can get ahead and be prosperous? You can give many people millions of dollars and in a few short years they are broke again. You can't give wisdom or management skills. They are learned. From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article The uber-wealthy share of taxes paid is down to 17% of their income. I never paid a tax rate that low. Ever. Considering that they control 25% of the wealth of the entire country, they ought to pay much more than 17%. That is obscene. And the reason I refer to it mental illness, is that they have cornered not only this staggering amount of wealth, but the entire country is now rigged to increase their wealth, at our expense. We are not talking about a wealth of millions of dollars, a sum that would make the rest of us unimaginably rich. No, these are all multi-billionaires. A billion dollars is equal to a person living to a hundred years of age, and spending ten million dollars annually, nearly a million bucks a month, from infancy. That is just ONE billion. Incomprehensible. Any time there is a bump in the economy, who benefits? The rest of us, who haven't seen wages rise in 55 years? Nope. Always the wealthy. We keep hearing from the servants of the rich, the media and politicians, how we are a mighty and wealthy country, a world super power, and yet the game is now so strongly rigged *against* the efforts of the populace to get ahead, to have stable, prosperous lives, that no one is listening. This could be easily fixed, by bumping the rate on taxable investments to say, 30 to 40%, what the middle class typically pays of its stagnant wages to the Feds in taxes. Close some loopholes too. I am not asking the one percent to contribute unfairly, only to the degree that the rest of us do. There should not be this unspoken rule, that once we achieve a certain level of wealth, we are then above the law. The truly galling thing about this, is the rich would never miss it, wouldn't even notice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : The wealthy pay less in taxes? C'mon now! The top 10% pay 70% of tax revenues. The remaining 90% pay 30%, while 47% pay next to nothing. 66% of spending is on Social programs i.e. SS, Medicare , Medicaid, Welfair, CHIP, etc. The remaining 34% is on the military and the cost of running the government and various discretionary spending. From: "olliesedwuz@...[FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Its deeper than that. All of those voting have watched their parents work hard without getting ahead, and profits skimm
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The wealthy need to pay an equal percentage of taxes as the middle class - 30 to 40 percent of annual income. Of course it sounds like a lot when you say 70 percent of taxes are contributed by these multi-billionaires, but that would only make sense if they were making what we do. Since they make in a month what most make in a life-time, they can open their pockets a little wider than 17%. This idea you promote below, with the poor acting as leeches, is slight-of-hand propaganda - don't watch the endless corporate welfare, and crony capitalism, and tax evasion, instead focus on someone who is less fortunate, and stigmatize them as stealing from us all. Very cynical and anti-social, too. Those spreading such thinking are addicted to greed, projecting it on everyone but themselves. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Their *fair share*? And who determines what is fair? There we go again, *free* stuff! Nothing is free. Would *free* health care and education be enough? Hell no! Next it will be housing transportation, child care, energy, food, clothing, entertainment, drugs etc etc. And will all this stuff is *free* why the hell should I have to work? I want free vacation time, 24/7 365! Oh yeah, what's free vacation time without free spending money? I want a free master card with no limits! We already have a heavily regulated market and the wealthy *do* pay for 70% of the safety net. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article No one will actually hand anyone else any money when the rich pay their fair share of taxes. Free higher ed and health care would work though. There really isn't anything wrong with treating people humanely. If the wealthy insist on an unregulated market, then they can damned well provide a safety net for the millions of ordinary citizens who regularly fall through the ever more common cracks in the economy, by paying their fair share of taxes. Nothing radical about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : What do the uber- wealthy have to *give* you so that you can get ahead and be prosperous? You can give many people millions of dollars and in a few short years they are broke again. You can't give wisdom or management skills. They are learned. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article The uber-wealthy share of taxes paid is down to 17% of their income. I never paid a tax rate that low. Ever. Considering that they control 25% of the wealth of the entire country, they ought to pay much more than 17%. That is obscene. And the reason I refer to it mental illness, is that they have cornered not only this staggering amount of wealth, but the entire country is now rigged to increase their wealth, at our expense. We are not talking about a wealth of millions of dollars, a sum that would make the rest of us unimaginably rich. No, these are all multi-billionaires. A billion dollars is equal to a person living to a hundred years of age, and spending ten million dollars annually, nearly a million bucks a month, from infancy. That is just ONE billion. Incomprehensible. Any time there is a bump in the economy, who benefits? The rest of us, who haven't seen wages rise in 55 years? Nope. Always the wealthy. We keep hearing from the servants of the rich, the media and politicians, how we are a mighty and wealthy country, a world super power, and yet the game is now so strongly rigged *against* the efforts of the populace to get ahead, to have stable, prosperous lives, that no one is listening. This could be easily fixed, by bumping the rate on taxable investments to say, 30 to 40%, what the middle class typically pays of its stagnant wages to the Feds in taxes. Close some loopholes too. I am not asking the one percent to contribute unfairly, only to the degree that the rest of us do. There should not be this unspoken rule, that once we achieve a certain level of wealth, we are then above the law. The truly galling thing about this, is the rich would never miss it, wouldn't even notice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : The wealthy pay less in taxes? C'mon now! The top 10% pay 70% of tax revenues. The remaining 90% pay 30%, while 47% pay next to nothing. 66% of spending is on Social programs i.e. SS, Medicare , Medicaid, Welfair, CHIP, etc. The remaining 34% is on the military and the cost of running the government and various discretionary spending. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoo
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This is the mistake that Hugo Chavez made. He turned over businesses to the workers but didn't train any of them to be a manager. You have to find the individual who will naturally be good at it and train them. I would also suggest a quick workshop for everyone in the business to find replacements and to keep check on the manager. What we are moving towards is a society of oligarchs running things and everyone else is their servant. That's very oppressive and should not be tolerated in any way whatsoever. On 02/26/2016 12:15 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Right, management skills can be learned but require discipline to make them effective. *From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2016 10:50 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Management skills are simple. They can be taught in a few short hours. The balls to apply them is the hard part. The uber rich are often all balls and no reason. They just plow ahead like Mac truck slamming through a store and leaving a mess in it's wake. A massive correction is needed for the big party the uber rich have had and left the hotel room trashed. On 02/26/2016 07:05 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com <mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote: What do the uber- wealthy have to *give* you so that you can get ahead and be prosperous? You can give many people millions of dollars and in a few short years they are broke again. You can't give wisdom or management skills. They are learned. *From:* "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <mailto:olliesed...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife]> <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2016 6:56 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article The uber-wealthy share of taxes paid is down to 17% of their income. I never paid a tax rate that low. Ever. Considering that they control 25% of the wealth of the entire country, they ought to pay much more than 17%. That is obscene. And the reason I refer to it mental illness, is that they have cornered not only this staggering amount of wealth, but the entire country is now rigged to increase their wealth, at our expense. We are not talking about a wealth of millions of dollars, a sum that would make the rest of us unimaginably rich. No, these are all multi-billionaires. A billion dollars is equal to a person living to a hundred years of age, and spending ten million dollars annually, nearly a million bucks a month, from infancy. That is just ONE billion. Incomprehensible. Any time there is a bump in the economy, who benefits? The rest of us, who haven't seen wages rise in 55 years? Nope. Always the wealthy. We keep hearing from the servants of the rich, the media and politicians, how we are a mighty and wealthy country, a world super power, and yet the game is now so strongly rigged *against* the efforts of the populace to get ahead, to have stable, prosperous lives, that no one is listening. This could be easily fixed, by bumping the rate on taxable investments to say, 30 to 40%, what the middle class typically pays of its stagnant wages to the Feds in taxes. Close some loopholes too. I am not asking the one percent to contribute unfairly, only to the degree that the rest of us do. There should not be this unspoken rule, that once we achieve a certain level of wealth, we are then above the law. The truly galling thing about this, is the rich would never miss it, wouldn't even notice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <mdixon.6569@...> <mailto:mdixon.6569@...> wrote : The wealthy pay less in taxes? C'mon now! The top 10% pay 70% of tax revenues. The remaining 90% pay 30%, while 47% pay next to nothing. 66% of spending is on Social programs i.e. SS, Medicare , Medicaid, Welfair, CHIP, etc. The remaining 34% is on the military and the cost of running the government and various discretionary spending. *From:* "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <mailto:olliesedwuz@...[FairfieldLife]> <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *Sent:* Thursday, February 25, 2016 3:11 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Its deeper than that. All of those voting have watched their parents work hard without getting
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Their *fair share*? And who determines what is fair? There we go again, *free* stuff! Nothing is free. Would *free* health care and education be enough? Hell no! Next it will be housing transportation, child care, energy, food, clothing, entertainment, drugs etc etc. And will all this stuff is *free* why the hell should I have to work? I want free vacation time, 24/7 365! Oh yeah, what's free vacation time without free spending money? I want a free master card with no limits! We already have a heavily regulated market and the wealthy *do* pay for 70% of the safety net. From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article No one will actually hand anyone else any money when the rich pay their fair share of taxes. Free higher ed and health care would work though. There really isn't anything wrong with treating people humanely. If the wealthy insist on an unregulated market, then they can damned well provide a safety net for the millions of ordinary citizens who regularly fall through the ever more common cracks in the economy, by paying their fair share of taxes. Nothing radical about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : What do the uber- wealthy have to *give* you so that you can get ahead and be prosperous? You can give many people millions of dollars and in a few short years they are broke again.You can't give wisdom or management skills. They are learned. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article The uber-wealthy share of taxes paid is down to 17% of their income. I never paid a tax rate that low. Ever. Considering that they control 25% of the wealth of the entire country, they ought to pay much more than 17%. That is obscene. And the reason I refer to it mental illness, is that they have cornered not only this staggering amount of wealth, but the entire country is now rigged to increase their wealth, at our expense. We are not talking about a wealth of millions of dollars, a sum that would make the rest of us unimaginably rich. No, these are all multi-billionaires. A billion dollars is equal to a person living to a hundred years of age, and spending ten million dollars annually, nearly a million bucks a month, from infancy. That is just ONE billion. Incomprehensible. Any time there is a bump in the economy, who benefits? The rest of us, who haven't seen wages rise in 55 years? Nope. Always the wealthy. We keep hearing from the servants of the rich, the media and politicians, how we are a mighty and wealthy country, a world super power, and yet the game is now so strongly rigged *against* the efforts of the populace to get ahead, to have stable, prosperous lives, that no one is listening. This could be easily fixed, by bumping the rate on taxable investments to say, 30 to 40%, what the middle class typically pays of its stagnant wages to the Feds in taxes. Close some loopholes too. I am not asking the one percent to contribute unfairly, only to the degree that the rest of us do. There should not be this unspoken rule, that once we achieve a certain level of wealth, we are then above the law. The truly galling thing about this, is the rich would never miss it, wouldn't even notice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : The wealthy pay less in taxes? C'mon now! The top 10% pay 70% of tax revenues. The remaining 90% pay 30%, while 47% pay next to nothing. 66% of spending is on Social programs i.e. SS, Medicare , Medicaid, Welfair, CHIP, etc. The remaining 34% is on the military and the cost of running the government and various discretionary spending. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Its deeper than that. All of those voting have watched their parents work hard without getting ahead, and profits skimmed by the wealthy who pay less taxes. In addition, the 1.2 trillion in student debt hampers many graduates the chance for a fresh start, and they are the group supposedly driving the economy. Its a rigged system, now more than ever, and the incremental change offered by all of the candidates except Sanders, amounts to treating the symptoms but not curing the underlying cancer of growing economic inequality. Your quote by Benjamin Franklin is spot on, in light of all the crony capitalism going on, off shoring profits to avoid taxes, while pointing the finger at someone collecting food-stamps, or throwing people out of jobs t
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I'm not sure Jews want to claim him. From: "he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Wouldn't Sanders be the first Jewish president of the US of A? #yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307 -- #yiv0139301307ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307ygrp-mkp #yiv0139301307hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307ygrp-mkp #yiv0139301307ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307ygrp-mkp .yiv0139301307ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307ygrp-mkp .yiv0139301307ad p {margin:0;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307ygrp-mkp .yiv0139301307ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307ygrp-sponsor #yiv0139301307ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307ygrp-sponsor #yiv0139301307ygrp-lc #yiv0139301307hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307ygrp-sponsor #yiv0139301307ygrp-lc .yiv0139301307ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307activity span .yiv0139301307underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0139301307 .yiv0139301307attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv0139301307 .yiv0139301307attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0139301307 .yiv0139301307attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv0139301307 .yiv0139301307attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv0139301307 .yiv0139301307attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0139301307 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv0139301307 .yiv0139301307bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv0139301307 .yiv0139301307bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0139301307 dd.yiv0139301307last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv0139301307 dd.yiv0139301307last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv0139301307 dd.yiv0139301307last p span.yiv0139301307yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv0139301307 div.yiv0139301307attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0139301307 div.yiv0139301307attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv0139301307 div.yiv0139301307file-title a, #yiv0139301307 div.yiv0139301307file-title a:active, #yiv0139301307 div.yiv0139301307file-title a:hover, #yiv0139301307 div.yiv0139301307file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0139301307 div.yiv0139301307photo-title a, #yiv0139301307 div.yiv0139301307photo-title a:active, #yiv0139301307 div.yiv0139301307photo-title a:hover, #yiv0139301307 div.yiv0139301307photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0139301307 div#yiv0139301307ygrp-mlmsg #yiv0139301307ygrp-msg p a span.yiv0139301307yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv0139301307 .yiv0139301307green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv0139301307 .yiv0139301307MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv0139301307 o {font-size:0;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307photos div div {border:1px solid #66;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307photos div label {color:#66;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307reco-category {font-size:77%;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307reco-desc {font-size:77%;}#yiv0139301307 .yiv0139301307replbq {margin:4px;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307ygrp-actbar div a:first-child {margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307ygrp-mlmsg select, #yiv0139301307 input, #yiv0139301307 textarea {font:99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307ygrp-mlmsg pre, #yiv0139301307 code {font:115% monospace;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307ygrp-mlmsg #yiv0139301307logo {padding-bottom:10px;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307ygrp-msg p a {font-family:Verdana;}#yiv0139301307 #yiv0139301307ygrp-msg p#yiv0139301307attach-count spa
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Right, management skills can be learned but require discipline to make them effective. From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Management skills are simple. They can be taught in a few short hours. The balls to apply them is the hard part. The uber rich are often all balls and no reason. They just plow ahead like Mac truck slamming through a store and leaving a mess in it's wake. A massive correction is needed for the big party the uber rich have had and left the hotel room trashed. On 02/26/2016 07:05 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: What do the uber- wealthy have to *give* you so that you can get ahead and be prosperous? You can give many people millions of dollars and in a few short years they are broke again. You can't give wisdom or management skills. They are learned. From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article The uber-wealthy share of taxes paid is down to 17% of their income. I never paid a tax rate that low. Ever. Considering that they control 25% of the wealth of the entire country, they ought to pay much more than 17%. That is obscene. And the reason I refer to it mental illness, is that they have cornered not only this staggering amount of wealth, but the entire country is now rigged to increase their wealth, at our expense. We are not talking about a wealth of millions of dollars, a sum that would make the rest of us unimaginably rich. No, these are all multi-billionaires. A billion dollars is equal to a person living to a hundred years of age, and spending ten million dollars annually, nearly a million bucks a month, from infancy. That is just ONE billion. Incomprehensible. Any time there is a bump in the economy, who benefits? The rest of us, who haven't seen wages rise in 55 years? Nope. Always the wealthy. We keep hearing from the servants of the rich, the media and politicians, how we are a mighty and wealthy country, a world super power, and yet the game is now so strongly rigged *against* the efforts of the populace to get ahead, to have stable, prosperous lives, that no one is listening. This could be easily fixed, by bumping the rate on taxable investments to say, 30 to 40%, what the middle class typically pays of its stagnant wages to the Feds in taxes. Close some loopholes too. I am not asking the one percent to contribute unfairly, only to the degree that the rest of us do. There should not be this unspoken rule, that once we achieve a certain level of wealth, we are then above the law. The truly galling thing about this, is the rich would never miss it, wouldn't even notice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : The wealthy pay less in taxes? C'mon now! The top 10% pay 70% of tax revenues. The remaining 90% pay 30%, while 47% pay next to nothing. 66% of spending is on Social programs i.e. SS, Medicare , Medicaid, Welfair, CHIP, etc. The remaining 34% is on the military and the cost of running the government and various discretionary spending. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Its deeper than that. All of those voting have watched their parents work hard without getting ahead, and profits skimmed by the wealthy who pay less taxes. In addition, the 1.2 trillion in student debt hampers many graduates the chance for a fresh start, and they are the group supposedly driving the economy. Its a rigged system, now more than ever, and the incremental change offered by all of the candidates except Sanders, amounts to treating the symptoms but not curing the underlying cancer of growing economic inequality. Your quote by Benjamin Franklin is spot on, in light of all the crony capitalism going on, off shoring profits to avoid taxes, while pointing the finger at someone collecting food-stamps, or throwing people out of jobs that go overseas, and then complaining about them collecting unemployment for too many weeks. That kind of greed is a mental illness and must be stopped for the good of us all. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower interest rates on your student loans. If you were a s
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Wiki: Hortense Duck (née McDuck; born 1876) is the wife of Quackmore Duck and Donald's mother. She was born in Scotland and is the youngest sister of Scrooge McDuck. Donald John Trump was born on June 14, 1946, in the Queens borough of New York City.[3][4][5][6] He is the fourth of five children to Mary Anne (née MacLeod; 1912–2000), a homemaker and philanthropist[7] and Fred Trump (1905–1999), who worked as a real estate developer. His mother was born at Tong on the Scottish island of Lewis.[8] In 1930, aged 18, she visited the United States and met Fred Trump.
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No one will actually hand anyone else any money when the rich pay their fair share of taxes. Free higher ed and health care would work though. There really isn't anything wrong with treating people humanely. If the wealthy insist on an unregulated market, then they can damned well provide a safety net for the millions of ordinary citizens who regularly fall through the ever more common cracks in the economy, by paying their fair share of taxes. Nothing radical about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : What do the uber- wealthy have to *give* you so that you can get ahead and be prosperous? You can give many people millions of dollars and in a few short years they are broke again. You can't give wisdom or management skills. They are learned. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article The uber-wealthy share of taxes paid is down to 17% of their income. I never paid a tax rate that low. Ever. Considering that they control 25% of the wealth of the entire country, they ought to pay much more than 17%. That is obscene. And the reason I refer to it mental illness, is that they have cornered not only this staggering amount of wealth, but the entire country is now rigged to increase their wealth, at our expense. We are not talking about a wealth of millions of dollars, a sum that would make the rest of us unimaginably rich. No, these are all multi-billionaires. A billion dollars is equal to a person living to a hundred years of age, and spending ten million dollars annually, nearly a million bucks a month, from infancy. That is just ONE billion. Incomprehensible. Any time there is a bump in the economy, who benefits? The rest of us, who haven't seen wages rise in 55 years? Nope. Always the wealthy. We keep hearing from the servants of the rich, the media and politicians, how we are a mighty and wealthy country, a world super power, and yet the game is now so strongly rigged *against* the efforts of the populace to get ahead, to have stable, prosperous lives, that no one is listening. This could be easily fixed, by bumping the rate on taxable investments to say, 30 to 40%, what the middle class typically pays of its stagnant wages to the Feds in taxes. Close some loopholes too. I am not asking the one percent to contribute unfairly, only to the degree that the rest of us do. There should not be this unspoken rule, that once we achieve a certain level of wealth, we are then above the law. The truly galling thing about this, is the rich would never miss it, wouldn't even notice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : The wealthy pay less in taxes? C'mon now! The top 10% pay 70% of tax revenues. The remaining 90% pay 30%, while 47% pay next to nothing. 66% of spending is on Social programs i.e. SS, Medicare , Medicaid, Welfair, CHIP, etc. The remaining 34% is on the military and the cost of running the government and various discretionary spending. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Its deeper than that. All of those voting have watched their parents work hard without getting ahead, and profits skimmed by the wealthy who pay less taxes. In addition, the 1.2 trillion in student debt hampers many graduates the chance for a fresh start, and they are the group supposedly driving the economy. Its a rigged system, now more than ever, and the incremental change offered by all of the candidates except Sanders, amounts to treating the symptoms but not curing the underlying cancer of growing economic inequality. Your quote by Benjamin Franklin is spot on, in light of all the crony capitalism going on, off shoring profits to avoid taxes, while pointing the finger at someone collecting food-stamps, or throwing people out of jobs that go overseas, and then complaining about them collecting unemployment for too many weeks. That kind of greed is a mental illness and must be stopped for the good of us all. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote for? When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. Benjamin Franklin. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24,
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Wouldn't Sanders be the first Jewish president of the US of A?
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I believe Trump's roots are in Scotland and Germany. As it happens, also his namesake, the most famous duck in the world, Donald Duck seems to have same kind of roots, because his uncle, Scrooge McDuck is said to be Scottish!
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Management skills are simple. They can be taught in a few short hours. The balls to apply them is the hard part. The uber rich are often all balls and no reason. They just plow ahead like Mac truck slamming through a store and leaving a mess in it's wake. A massive correction is needed for the big party the uber rich have had and left the hotel room trashed. On 02/26/2016 07:05 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: What do the uber- wealthy have to *give* you so that you can get ahead and be prosperous? You can give many people millions of dollars and in a few short years they are broke again. You can't give wisdom or management skills. They are learned. *From:* "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2016 6:56 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article The uber-wealthy share of taxes paid is down to 17% of their income. I never paid a tax rate that low. Ever. Considering that they control 25% of the wealth of the entire country, they ought to pay much more than 17%. That is obscene. And the reason I refer to it mental illness, is that they have cornered not only this staggering amount of wealth, but the entire country is now rigged to increase their wealth, at our expense. We are not talking about a wealth of millions of dollars, a sum that would make the rest of us unimaginably rich. No, these are all multi-billionaires. A billion dollars is equal to a person living to a hundred years of age, and spending ten million dollars annually, nearly a million bucks a month, from infancy. That is just ONE billion. Incomprehensible. Any time there is a bump in the economy, who benefits? The rest of us, who haven't seen wages rise in 55 years? Nope. Always the wealthy. We keep hearing from the servants of the rich, the media and politicians, how we are a mighty and wealthy country, a world super power, and yet the game is now so strongly rigged *against* the efforts of the populace to get ahead, to have stable, prosperous lives, that no one is listening. This could be easily fixed, by bumping the rate on taxable investments to say, 30 to 40%, what the middle class typically pays of its stagnant wages to the Feds in taxes. Close some loopholes too. I am not asking the one percent to contribute unfairly, only to the degree that the rest of us do. There should not be this unspoken rule, that once we achieve a certain level of wealth, we are then above the law. The truly galling thing about this, is the rich would never miss it, wouldn't even notice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : The wealthy pay less in taxes? C'mon now! The top 10% pay 70% of tax revenues. The remaining 90% pay 30%, while 47% pay next to nothing. 66% of spending is on Social programs i.e. SS, Medicare , Medicaid, Welfair, CHIP, etc. The remaining 34% is on the military and the cost of running the government and various discretionary spending. *From:* "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, February 25, 2016 3:11 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Its deeper than that. All of those voting have watched their parents work hard without getting ahead, and profits skimmed by the wealthy who pay less taxes. In addition, the 1.2 trillion in student debt hampers many graduates the chance for a fresh start, and they are the group supposedly driving the economy. Its a rigged system, now more than ever, and the incremental change offered by all of the candidates except Sanders, amounts to treating the symptoms but not curing the underlying cancer of growing economic inequality. Your quote by Benjamin Franklin is spot on, in light of all the crony capitalism going on, off shoring profits to avoid taxes, while pointing the finger at someone collecting food-stamps, or throwing people out of jobs that go overseas, and then complaining about them collecting unemployment for too many weeks. That kind of greed is a mental illness and must be stopped for the good of us all. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote for? When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. Benjamin Franklin. *From:* "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <Fairfield
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I'll check them out. I have never talked of the "vast right wing conspiracy against the Clinton's." Neither Hillary or Bill walks on water - there is plenty of fodder for Fox news, etc. to create "news" about. We *know* they do and Bill will be back in the line of fire too, I'm guessing, and Fox news will dredge up the Ken Starr report, I'll bet. We all carry baggage. I said she was a survivor, because she is. Only "God" knows how many lives she's burned through. :) It's Wintergrass weekend here in Bellevue, WA this weekend. Gotta go get immersed in the live experience of it all. Pure positivity. Kids running around, jamming going on in every corner of the Hyatt. Bands from all over the nation. All styles and flavors. Acoustics to write home aboutits pretty much the only time all year I listen to Bluegrass and it is the best ever. Here's a nice video for you. :) Rabbit Wilde - Salt Flats (Official Video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOyfKJs1Qho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOyfKJs1Qho Rabbit Wilde - Salt Flats (Official Video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOyfKJs1Qho Rabbit Wilde - Salt Flats from The Wild North, out now on iTunes: http://bit.ly/1uCeW84 and at www.rabbitwilde.com/store Directed b... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOyfKJs1Qho Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Emily, I tried numerous times to include several youtube links discussing detail that is known presently and legal ramifications without success. If you are willing to look for yourself and listen, you might see where I'm coming from. If you google *Judge Napolitano on Hillary's e-mail* you'll come up with numerous video clips, not limited to just one person's opinions. Of course these particular video clips are Fox News related which you may dismiss as *not news*. But there are other sources as well if you look. One can dismiss these reports as part of the vast right-wing conspiracy against the Clinton's all you want and that would be how you have been conditioned all these years. Someone said earlier in a post that Hillary is a *survivor*. Yes she is but a cat only has nine lives. Sooner or later the luck runs out. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Mike, it's amazing the confidence you exhibit in what you know about the FBI Investigation. You didn't mention your source(s) for all this information, so perhaps it is all "spin." Or, maybe you are a political psychic. My guess is, "it will all come out in the wash." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Emily, that's called *spin*. The FBI only investigates potentially criminal activity. They currently have 150 agents working this investigation. Numerous e-mails have been discovered on Hillary's private server that are not allowed to be there.There are E-mails involving highly classified materials not allowed on private servers. Some were so sensitive that even the FBI agents were not allowed to read them. Some involve names of agents in foreign countries who's lives would be in danger should they be discovered and they were on an unsecured private server. The FBI can not legally speak to the press about it's investigation but will make a recommendation as to whether or not she should be prosecuted once the investigation is complete. But the investigation keeps getting deeper. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Re: "Hillary is under some serious investigation by the FBI right now." Mike, check your sources. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/14/jeb-bush/heres-whats-wrong-jeb-bush-saying-hillary-clinton-/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/14/jeb-bush/heres-whats-wrong-jeb-bush-saying-hillary-clinton-/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/14/jeb-bush/heres-... http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/14/jeb-bush/heres-whats-wrong-jeb-bush-saying-hillary-clinton-/ � View on www.politifact.com http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/14/jeb-bush/heres-whats-wrong-jeb-bush-saying-hillary-clinton-/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Wrong Anne. Anybody but Hillary or an avowed socialist. Besides, Hillary is under some serious investigation by the FBI right now. One hundred and fifty FBI agents are invest
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What do the uber- wealthy have to *give* you so that you can get ahead and be prosperous? You can give many people millions of dollars and in a few short years they are broke again.You can't give wisdom or management skills. They are learned. From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article The uber-wealthy share of taxes paid is down to 17% of their income. I never paid a tax rate that low. Ever. Considering that they control 25% of the wealth of the entire country, they ought to pay much more than 17%. That is obscene. And the reason I refer to it mental illness, is that they have cornered not only this staggering amount of wealth, but the entire country is now rigged to increase their wealth, at our expense. We are not talking about a wealth of millions of dollars, a sum that would make the rest of us unimaginably rich. No, these are all multi-billionaires. A billion dollars is equal to a person living to a hundred years of age, and spending ten million dollars annually, nearly a million bucks a month, from infancy. That is just ONE billion. Incomprehensible. Any time there is a bump in the economy, who benefits? The rest of us, who haven't seen wages rise in 55 years? Nope. Always the wealthy. We keep hearing from the servants of the rich, the media and politicians, how we are a mighty and wealthy country, a world super power, and yet the game is now so strongly rigged *against* the efforts of the populace to get ahead, to have stable, prosperous lives, that no one is listening. This could be easily fixed, by bumping the rate on taxable investments to say, 30 to 40%, what the middle class typically pays of its stagnant wages to the Feds in taxes. Close some loopholes too. I am not asking the one percent to contribute unfairly, only to the degree that the rest of us do. There should not be this unspoken rule, that once we achieve a certain level of wealth, we are then above the law. The truly galling thing about this, is the rich would never miss it, wouldn't even notice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : The wealthy pay less in taxes? C'mon now! The top 10% pay 70% of tax revenues. The remaining 90% pay 30%, while 47% pay next to nothing. 66% of spending is on Social programs i.e. SS, Medicare , Medicaid, Welfair, CHIP, etc. The remaining 34% is on the military and the cost of running the government and various discretionary spending. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Its deeper than that. All of those voting have watched their parents work hard without getting ahead, and profits skimmed by the wealthy who pay less taxes. In addition, the 1.2 trillion in student debt hampers many graduates the chance for a fresh start, and they are the group supposedly driving the economy. Its a rigged system, now more than ever, and the incremental change offered by all of the candidates except Sanders, amounts to treating the symptoms but not curing the underlying cancer of growing economic inequality. Your quote by Benjamin Franklin is spot on, in light of all the crony capitalism going on, off shoring profits to avoid taxes, while pointing the finger at someone collecting food-stamps, or throwing people out of jobs that go overseas, and then complaining about them collecting unemployment for too many weeks. That kind of greed is a mental illness and must be stopped for the good of us all. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote for? When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. Benjamin Franklin. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article You know, he makes some excellent points. It is true that Hillary is not a great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the time. Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people. They say it's about her. It is true that Trump will do everything he can to lynch her and he won't let up. If she defends, she loses. He will continue to play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that isn't talked about, but that surely exists in th
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Emily, I tried numerous times to include several youtube links discussing detail that is known presently and legal ramifications without success. If you are willing to look for yourself and listen, you might see where I'm coming from. If you google *Judge Napolitano on Hillary's e-mail* you'll come up with numerous video clips, not limited to just one person's opinions. Of course these particular video clips are Fox News related which you may dismiss as *not news*. But there are other sources as well if you look. One can dismiss these reports as part of the vast right-wing conspiracy against the Clinton's all you want and that would be how you have been conditioned all these years. Someone said earlier in a post that Hillary is a *survivor*. Yes she is but a cat only has nine lives. Sooner or later the luck runs out. From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Mike, it's amazing the confidence you exhibit in what you know about the FBI Investigation. You didn't mention your source(s) for all this information, so perhaps it is all "spin." Or, maybe you are a political psychic. My guess is, "it will all come out in the wash." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Emily, that's called *spin*. The FBI only investigates potentially criminal activity. They currently have 150 agents working this investigation. Numerous e-mails have been discovered on Hillary's private server that are not allowed to be there.There are E-mails involving highly classified materials not allowed on private servers. Some were so sensitive that even the FBI agents were not allowed to read them. Some involve names of agents in foreign countries who's lives would be in danger should they be discovered and they were on an unsecured private server. The FBI can not legally speak to the press about it's investigation but will make a recommendation as to whether or not she should be prosecuted once the investigation is complete. But the investigation keeps getting deeper. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Re: "Hillary is under some serious investigation by the FBI right now." Mike, check your sources. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/14/jeb-bush/heres-whats-wrong-jeb-bush-saying-hillary-clinton-/ | | | | http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/14/jeb-bush/heres-... � | | | View on www.politifact.com| Preview by Yahoo | | | ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Wrong Anne. Anybody but Hillary or an avowed socialist. Besides, Hillary is under some serious investigation by the FBI right now. One hundred and fifty FBI agents are investigating her right now and a federal judge wants her server. She didn't delete 30,000 e-mails of yoga routines and wedding plans. That's called *obstruction of justice*. Obama can't pardon her because she hasn't been tried and convicted and if he refuses to indict her after an FBI recommendation to, all hell will break loose. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She could never beat Trump. But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to win. This will never happen. Hillary will be our next President. Bernie scares too many who are irrationally afraid of "socialists" and there are not enough crazy Republicans to secure Trump as the next White House resident - I can see it now; everything done in Rococo style with plenty of dripping gold furniture and fixtures. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself! From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
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The uber-wealthy share of taxes paid is down to 17% of their income. I never paid a tax rate that low. Ever. Considering that they control 25% of the wealth of the entire country, they ought to pay much more than 17%. That is obscene. And the reason I refer to it mental illness, is that they have cornered not only this staggering amount of wealth, but the entire country is now rigged to increase their wealth, at our expense. We are not talking about a wealth of millions of dollars, a sum that would make the rest of us unimaginably rich. No, these are all multi-billionaires. A billion dollars is equal to a person living to a hundred years of age, and spending ten million dollars annually, nearly a million bucks a month, from infancy. That is just ONE billion. Incomprehensible. Any time there is a bump in the economy, who benefits? The rest of us, who haven't seen wages rise in 55 years? Nope. Always the wealthy. We keep hearing from the servants of the rich, the media and politicians, how we are a mighty and wealthy country, a world super power, and yet the game is now so strongly rigged *against* the efforts of the populace to get ahead, to have stable, prosperous lives, that no one is listening. This could be easily fixed, by bumping the rate on taxable investments to say, 30 to 40%, what the middle class typically pays of its stagnant wages to the Feds in taxes. Close some loopholes too. I am not asking the one percent to contribute unfairly, only to the degree that the rest of us do. There should not be this unspoken rule, that once we achieve a certain level of wealth, we are then above the law. The truly galling thing about this, is the rich would never miss it, wouldn't even notice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : The wealthy pay less in taxes? C'mon now! The top 10% pay 70% of tax revenues. The remaining 90% pay 30%, while 47% pay next to nothing. 66% of spending is on Social programs i.e. SS, Medicare , Medicaid, Welfair, CHIP, etc. The remaining 34% is on the military and the cost of running the government and various discretionary spending. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Its deeper than that. All of those voting have watched their parents work hard without getting ahead, and profits skimmed by the wealthy who pay less taxes. In addition, the 1.2 trillion in student debt hampers many graduates the chance for a fresh start, and they are the group supposedly driving the economy. Its a rigged system, now more than ever, and the incremental change offered by all of the candidates except Sanders, amounts to treating the symptoms but not curing the underlying cancer of growing economic inequality. Your quote by Benjamin Franklin is spot on, in light of all the crony capitalism going on, off shoring profits to avoid taxes, while pointing the finger at someone collecting food-stamps, or throwing people out of jobs that go overseas, and then complaining about them collecting unemployment for too many weeks. That kind of greed is a mental illness and must be stopped for the good of us all. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote for? When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. Benjamin Franklin. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article You know, he makes some excellent points. It is true that Hillary is not a great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the time. Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people. They say it's about her. It is true that Trump will do everything he can to lynch her and he won't let up. If she defends, she loses. He will continue to play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that isn't talked about, but that surely exists in the minds of both men and women. The undermining has already started and has been quite effective. I will agree that the more interesting match that would force us to choose ideologically would be a Sanders/Trump choice. SuperTuesday is around the corner. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : This is a very well argued article saying that Clinton cannot beat Trump but Sanders can. Unless t
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Mike, it's amazing the confidence you exhibit in what you know about the FBI Investigation. You didn't mention your source(s) for all this information, so perhaps it is all "spin." Or, maybe you are a political psychic. My guess is, "it will all come out in the wash." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Emily, that's called *spin*. The FBI only investigates potentially criminal activity. They currently have 150 agents working this investigation. Numerous e-mails have been discovered on Hillary's private server that are not allowed to be there.There are E-mails involving highly classified materials not allowed on private servers. Some were so sensitive that even the FBI agents were not allowed to read them. Some involve names of agents in foreign countries who's lives would be in danger should they be discovered and they were on an unsecured private server. The FBI can not legally speak to the press about it's investigation but will make a recommendation as to whether or not she should be prosecuted once the investigation is complete. But the investigation keeps getting deeper. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Re: "Hillary is under some serious investigation by the FBI right now." Mike, check your sources. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/14/jeb-bush/heres-whats-wrong-jeb-bush-saying-hillary-clinton-/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/14/jeb-bush/heres-whats-wrong-jeb-bush-saying-hillary-clinton-/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/14/jeb-bush/heres-... http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/14/jeb-bush/heres-whats-wrong-jeb-bush-saying-hillary-clinton-/ � View on www.politifact.com http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/14/jeb-bush/heres-whats-wrong-jeb-bush-saying-hillary-clinton-/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Wrong Anne. Anybody but Hillary or an avowed socialist. Besides, Hillary is under some serious investigation by the FBI right now. One hundred and fifty FBI agents are investigating her right now and a federal judge wants her server. She didn't delete 30,000 e-mails of yoga routines and wedding plans. That's called *obstruction of justice*. Obama can't pardon her because she hasn't been tried and convicted and if he refuses to indict her after an FBI recommendation to, all hell will break loose. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She could never beat Trump. But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to win. This will never happen. Hillary will be our next President. Bernie scares too many who are irrationally afraid of "socialists" and there are not enough crazy Republicans to secure Trump as the next White House resident - I can see it now; everything done in Rococo style with plenty of dripping gold furniture and fixtures. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself! From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the school yard. I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward foolsliars, all of you. Wimps, weak. I bet you couldn't pass a bill if you tried. The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget. I'll make sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see those guys in black at the back; they wear their sungl
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Emily, that's called *spin*. The FBI only investigates potentially criminal activity. They currently have 150 agents working this investigation. Numerous e-mails have been discovered on Hillary's private server that are not allowed to be there.There are E-mails involving highly classified materials not allowed on private servers. Some were so sensitive that even the FBI agents were not allowed to read them. Some involve names of agents in foreign countries who's lives would be in danger should they be discovered and they were on an unsecured private server. The FBI can not legally speak to the press about it's investigation but will make a recommendation as to whether or not she should be prosecuted once the investigation is complete. But the investigation keeps getting deeper. From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Re: "Hillary is under some serious investigation by the FBI right now." Mike, check your sources. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/14/jeb-bush/heres-whats-wrong-jeb-bush-saying-hillary-clinton-/ || || http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/14/jeb-bush/heres-... � || | View on www.politifact.com |Preview by Yahoo| || ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Wrong Anne. Anybody but Hillary or an avowed socialist. Besides, Hillary is under some serious investigation by the FBI right now. One hundred and fifty FBI agents are investigating her right now and a federal judge wants her server. She didn't delete 30,000 e-mails of yoga routines and wedding plans. That's called *obstruction of justice*. Obama can't pardon her because she hasn't been tried and convicted and if he refuses to indict her after an FBI recommendation to, all hell will break loose. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She could never beat Trump. But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to win. This will never happen. Hillary will be our next President. Bernie scares too many who are irrationally afraid of "socialists" and there are not enough crazy Republicans to secure Trump as the next White House resident - I can see it now; everything done in Rococo style with plenty of dripping gold furniture and fixtures. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself! From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the school yard. I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward foolsliars, all of you. Wimps, weak. I bet you couldn't pass a bill if you tried. The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget. I'll make sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night. Heck, I'll do it myself. I don't need you. I have a billion dollars. I can run this country by myself. I'm comin' for you, don't forget. I'll sue the pants off of you. I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses. Watch your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists and any other problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound familiar? From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM S
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Re: "Hillary is under some serious investigation by the FBI right now." Mike, check your sources. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/14/jeb-bush/heres-whats-wrong-jeb-bush-saying-hillary-clinton-/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/14/jeb-bush/heres-whats-wrong-jeb-bush-saying-hillary-clinton-/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/14/jeb-bush/heres-... http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/14/jeb-bush/heres-whats-wrong-jeb-bush-saying-hillary-clinton-/ � View on www.politifact.com http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/14/jeb-bush/heres-whats-wrong-jeb-bush-saying-hillary-clinton-/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Wrong Anne. Anybody but Hillary or an avowed socialist. Besides, Hillary is under some serious investigation by the FBI right now. One hundred and fifty FBI agents are investigating her right now and a federal judge wants her server. She didn't delete 30,000 e-mails of yoga routines and wedding plans. That's called *obstruction of justice*. Obama can't pardon her because she hasn't been tried and convicted and if he refuses to indict her after an FBI recommendation to, all hell will break loose. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She could never beat Trump. But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to win. This will never happen. Hillary will be our next President. Bernie scares too many who are irrationally afraid of "socialists" and there are not enough crazy Republicans to secure Trump as the next White House resident - I can see it now; everything done in Rococo style with plenty of dripping gold furniture and fixtures. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself! From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the school yard. I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward foolsliars, all of you. Wimps, weak. I bet you couldn't pass a bill if you tried. The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget. I'll make sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night. Heck, I'll do it myself. I don't need you. I have a billion dollars. I can run this country by myself. I'm comin' for you, don't forget. I'll sue the pants off of you. I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses. Watch your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists and any other problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound familiar? From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to deliver. Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together. He just thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build things right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves to their parent countries voluntarily. All on Day 1. What a guy. Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho. Have you looked at the particulars? I like it. However, he's bound and deter
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Re: "Give me what I want as a Republican or I'll give the Democrats what they want and make Republicans sorry that they didn't work with me". Yep, that sounds just like himhe's a swinger! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Trump isn't radical. Just sounds that way because he comes off as an American version of Benito Mussolini. He's going to *make the trains run on time* kind of guy. He has supported a lot of liberal causes in the past and I doubt he has really changed. He is far more liberal than conservative but he knows how to *sell* himself. What I think makes this guy *dangerous* is how he will govern. He says he has mastered the *art of the deal* and that is how he will handle congress. "Give me what I want as a Republican or I'll give the Democrats what they want and make Republicans sorry that they didn't work with me". Democrats will be chomping at the bit to stick it to Republicans. This will work both ways, just depends on who has the majority in congress. He cares more about *winning* than conservative or liberal principals. From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:00 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She could never beat Trump. But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to win. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself! From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the school yard. I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward foolsliars, all of you. Wimps, weak. I bet you couldn't pass a bill if you tried. The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget. I'll make sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night. Heck, I'll do it myself. I don't need you. I have a billion dollars. I can run this country by myself. I'm comin' for you, don't forget. I'll sue the pants off of you. I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses. Watch your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists and any other problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound familiar? From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to deliver. Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together. He just thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build things right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves to their parent countries voluntarily. All on Day 1. What a guy. Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho. Have you looked at the particulars? I like it. However, he's bound and determined to get it and everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current time and won't in the near future. " The cost of this $75 billion a year plan is fully paid for by imposing a tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street speculators who nearly destroyed the economy seven years ago. " ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lo
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The wealthy pay less in taxes? C'mon now! The top 10% pay 70% of tax revenues. The remaining 90% pay 30%, while 47% pay next to nothing. 66% of spending is on Social programs i.e. SS, Medicare , Medicaid, Welfair, CHIP, etc. The remaining 34% is on the military and the cost of running the government and various discretionary spending. From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Its deeper than that. All of those voting have watched their parents work hard without getting ahead, and profits skimmed by the wealthy who pay less taxes. In addition, the 1.2 trillion in student debt hampers many graduates the chance for a fresh start, and they are the group supposedly driving the economy. Its a rigged system, now more than ever, and the incremental change offered by all of the candidates except Sanders, amounts to treating the symptoms but not curing the underlying cancer of growing economic inequality. Your quote by Benjamin Franklin is spot on, in light of all the crony capitalism going on, off shoring profits to avoid taxes, while pointing the finger at someone collecting food-stamps, or throwing people out of jobs that go overseas, and then complaining about them collecting unemployment for too many weeks. That kind of greed is a mental illness and must be stopped for the good of us all. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote for? When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. Benjamin Franklin. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article You know, he makes some excellent points. It is true that Hillary is not a great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the time. Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people. They say it's about her. It is true that Trump will do everything he can to lynch her and he won't let up. If she defends, she loses. He will continue to play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that isn't talked about, but that surely exists in the minds of both men and women. The undermining has already started and has been quite effective. I will agree that the more interesting match that would force us to choose ideologically would be a Sanders/Trump choice. SuperTuesday is around the corner. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : This is a very well argued article saying that Clinton cannot beat Trump but Sanders can. Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nomination Means a Trump Presidency | Current Affairs | | | | | | Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nominati... With Donald Trump lookingincreasinglylikely to actually be the Republican nominee for President, it’s long past time for the Democrats to sta... | | | View on static.currentaffairs.org| Preview by Yahoo | | | #yiv3276896843 #yiv3276896843 -- #yiv3276896843ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv3276896843 #yiv3276896843ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv3276896843 #yiv3276896843ygrp-mkp #yiv3276896843hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv3276896843 #yiv3276896843ygrp-mkp #yiv3276896843ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv3276896843 #yiv3276896843ygrp-mkp .yiv3276896843ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv3276896843 #yiv3276896843ygrp-mkp .yiv3276896843ad p {margin:0;}#yiv3276896843 #yiv3276896843ygrp-mkp .yiv3276896843ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv3276896843 #yiv3276896843ygrp-sponsor #yiv3276896843ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv3276896843 #yiv3276896843ygrp-sponsor #yiv3276896843ygrp-lc #yiv3276896843hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv3276896843 #yiv3276896843ygrp-sponsor #yiv3276896843ygrp-lc .yiv3276896843ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv3276896843 #yiv3276896843actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv3276896843 #yiv3276896843activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv3276896843 #yiv3276896843activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv3276896843 #yiv3276896843activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv3276896843 #yiv3276896843activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none
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Its deeper than that. All of those voting have watched their parents work hard without getting ahead, and profits skimmed by the wealthy who pay less taxes. In addition, the 1.2 trillion in student debt hampers many graduates the chance for a fresh start, and they are the group supposedly driving the economy. Its a rigged system, now more than ever, and the incremental change offered by all of the candidates except Sanders, amounts to treating the symptoms but not curing the underlying cancer of growing economic inequality. Your quote by Benjamin Franklin is spot on, in light of all the crony capitalism going on, off shoring profits to avoid taxes, while pointing the finger at someone collecting food-stamps, or throwing people out of jobs that go overseas, and then complaining about them collecting unemployment for too many weeks. That kind of greed is a mental illness and must be stopped for the good of us all. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote for? When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. Benjamin Franklin. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article You know, he makes some excellent points. It is true that Hillary is not a great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the time. Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people. They say it's about her. It is true that Trump will do everything he can to lynch her and he won't let up. If she defends, she loses. He will continue to play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that isn't talked about, but that surely exists in the minds of both men and women. The undermining has already started and has been quite effective. I will agree that the more interesting match that would force us to choose ideologically would be a Sanders/Trump choice. SuperTuesday is around the corner. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This is a very well argued article saying that Clinton cannot beat Trump but Sanders can. Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nomination Means a Trump Presidency | Current Affairs http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nominati... http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency With Donald Trump lookingincreasinglylikely to actually be the Republican nominee for President, it’s long past time for the Democrats to sta... View on static.currentaffairs.org http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency Preview by Yahoo
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I thought the Koch brothers *started* the Tea Party by who they funded! They are very right wing and all about consolidating money, power and control to forward the agenda they want. Trump is simply pandering to his own narcissistic self; he's in it for the win, for winning's sake. The ultimate win, for him. He's in it for the adulation, He's jacking off on it (pardon my language). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : And for all three of these reasons, I would never run for public office! A few weeks ago I googled on Trump/Koch bros. Found a fascinating article about how the Koch bros. who were orignally Libertarian, sold out to the Tea Party. I think Trump is showing the Kochs and the Republicans how wrong they have been to let the Tea Party take over. For mainly this, I'm grateful to him. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Share, you are a woman in this life and a smart one, a fighter. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : What you say is very logical and makes a lot of sense. However, most people operate from a different place than logic and sense, esp when it comes to politics which is so much about perception and unconscious motivations, even primal ones. My guess is most Americans don't like a smart woman. And they certainly don't like a smart woman who's also a "fighter." They like women who are like Sanders wife, very comforting and motherly. Or Melania who's gorgeous and supportive of her family. Again, these are very primal currents in the human psyche. Another factor which plays out on the subliminal level, is that Hillary looks like a Republican wife! Or Margaret Thatcher! As it is, we live in a very visual culture and these cues operate on very unconscious levels. Over and over and over again. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article I see it oppositely to you. Hillary could win and she could beat Trump. She is a fighter—one should never underestimate the power of woman of intention when she sets her mind to something. Hillary is a survivor and she is intelligent and knowledgable and experienced and dedicated. She is well spoken and she's thoughtful. She missteps here and there and because her every facial expression is being subjected to negative scrutiny and pronouncement and sexist attack, she suffers in the media. Her tone is sometimes off and her slogan and logo aren't the best. But, let us remember we aren't electing a slogan or a logo. I think she needs to blow by and play past the accusations and just laugh at the jokesters and let these things roll off her back a bit more. Stay focused on the positive message exclusively and the depth and intelligence she would bring to the White House. Relax, be herself and go for it. Bernie's better at just letting it all hang out. He doesn't apologize for himself and neither does Trump. She needs to stop explaining and start campaigning with unbounded enthusiasm everywhere she goes, making sure that her message is not about herself, but about the people. I think it is, honestly, but she needs to change her campaign message and her delivery and her demeanor some and stay on point. "Illegitimum non carborundum." She's breaking new ground. Bernie is primarily an activist and a good one who communicates his message clearly, but all his great ideas are underwritten by his single-minded focus (comes out in every one of his speeches no matter what the topic) to take down and disable the "wealth structure" and "make them pay." It's global, not limited to the U.S. and he won't be able to start making inroads into it "locally" (U.S.) without a major and sustained "revolution" on the part of the American people. We aren't there, we aren't even close. He should throw his support behind Hillary, when the time comes. And then, yes, keep the ball rolling with activism at the ground level, for the votes for our elected representatives, for continuing to educate the masses and the millennials that think he's a cutie pie. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She could never beat Trump. But, if she
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And for all three of these reasons, I would never run for public office! A few weeks ago I googled on Trump/Koch bros. Found a fascinating article about how the Koch bros. who were orignally Libertarian, sold out to the Tea Party. I think Trump is showing the Kochs and the Republicans how wrong they have been to let the Tea Party take over. For mainly this, I'm grateful to him. From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Share, you are a woman in this life and a smart one, a fighter. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : What you say is very logical and makes a lot of sense. However, most people operate from a different place than logic and sense, esp when it comes to politics which is so much about perception and unconscious motivations, even primal ones. My guess is most Americans don't like a smart woman. And they certainly don't like a smart woman who's also a "fighter." They like women who are like Sanders wife, very comforting and motherly. Or Melania who's gorgeous and supportive of her family. Again, these are very primal currents in the human psyche. Another factor which plays out on the subliminal level, is that Hillary looks like a Republican wife! Or Margaret Thatcher! As it is, we live in a very visual culture and these cues operate on very unconscious levels. Over and over and over again. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article I see it oppositely to you. Hillary could win and she could beat Trump. She is a fighter—one should never underestimate the power of woman of intention when she sets her mind to something. Hillary is a survivor and she is intelligent and knowledgable and experienced and dedicated. She is well spoken and she's thoughtful. She missteps here and there and because her every facial expression is being subjected to negative scrutiny and pronouncement and sexist attack, she suffers in the media. Her tone is sometimes off and her slogan and logo aren't the best. But, let us remember we aren't electing a slogan or a logo. I think she needs to blow by and play past the accusations and just laugh at the jokesters and let these things roll off her back a bit more. Stay focused on the positive message exclusively and the depth and intelligence she would bring to the White House. Relax, be herself and go for it. Bernie's better at just letting it all hang out. He doesn't apologize for himself and neither does Trump. She needs to stop explaining and start campaigning with unbounded enthusiasm everywhere she goes, making sure that her message is not about herself, but about the people. I think it is, honestly, but she needs to change her campaign message and her delivery and her demeanor some and stay on point. "Illegitimum non carborundum." She's breaking new ground. Bernie is primarily an activist and a good one who communicates his message clearly, but all his great ideas are underwritten by his single-minded focus (comes out in every one of his speeches no matter what the topic) to take down and disable the "wealth structure" and "make them pay." It's global, not limited to the U.S. and he won't be able to start making inroads into it "locally" (U.S.) without a major and sustained "revolution" on the part of the American people. We aren't there, we aren't even close. He should throw his support behind Hillary, when the time comes. And then, yes, keep the ball rolling with activism at the ground level, for the votes for our elected representatives, for continuing to educate the masses and the millennials that think he's a cutie pie. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She could never beat Trump. But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to win. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself! From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <F
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Wow! In this case, she should do all she can to help the Democratic Party by throwing her support behind Bernie. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Wrong Anne. Anybody but Hillary or an avowed socialist. Besides, Hillary is under some serious investigation by the FBI right now. One hundred and fifty FBI agents are investigating her right now and a federal judge wants her server. She didn't delete 30,000 e-mails of yoga routines and wedding plans. That's called *obstruction of justice*. Obama can't pardon her because she hasn't been tried and convicted and if he refuses to indict her after an FBI recommendation to, all hell will break loose. From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She could never beat Trump. But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to win. This will never happen. Hillary will be our next President. Bernie scares too many who are irrationally afraid of "socialists" and there are not enough crazy Republicans to secure Trump as the next White House resident - I can see it now; everything done in Rococo style with plenty of dripping gold furniture and fixtures. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself! From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the school yard. I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward foolsliars, all of you. Wimps, weak. I bet you couldn't pass a bill if you tried. The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget. I'll make sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night. Heck, I'll do it myself. I don't need you. I have a billion dollars. I can run this country by myself. I'm comin' for you, don't forget. I'll sue the pants off of you. I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses. Watch your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists and any other problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound familiar? From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to deliver. Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together. He just thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build things right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves to their parent countries voluntarily. All on Day 1. What a guy. Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho. Have you looked at the particulars? I like it. However, he's bound and determined to get it and everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current time and won't in the near future. " The cost of this $75 billion a year plan is fully paid for by imposing a tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street speculators who nearly destroyed the economy seven years ago. " ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than H
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He SOUNDS radical which is mainly what will influence most voters at this time in history. Few will go hunting down his past support of liberal causes, etc. As for being a wheeler dealer, I've heard that said about LBJ. People feel safe with a winner. As I said to Emily, this whole business of voting comes from very primal places in the psyche. Logic and reason have little to do with it for many voters. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Trump isn't radical. Just sounds that way because he comes off as an American version of Benito Mussolini. He's going to *make the trains run on time* kind of guy. He has supported a lot of liberal causes in the past and I doubt he has really changed. He is far more liberal than conservative but he knows how to *sell* himself. What I think makes this guy *dangerous* is how he will govern. He says he has mastered the *art of the deal* and that is how he will handle congress. "Give me what I want as a Republican or I'll give the Democrats what they want and make Republicans sorry that they didn't work with me". Democrats will be chomping at the bit to stick it to Republicans. This will work both ways, just depends on who has the majority in congress. He cares more about *winning* than conservative or liberal principals. From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:00 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She could never beat Trump. But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to win. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself! From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the school yard. I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward foolsliars, all of you. Wimps, weak. I bet you couldn't pass a bill if you tried. The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget. I'll make sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night. Heck, I'll do it myself. I don't need you. I have a billion dollars. I can run this country by myself. I'm comin' for you, don't forget. I'll sue the pants off of you. I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses. Watch your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists and any other problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound familiar? From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to deliver. Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together. He just thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build things right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves to their parent countries voluntarily. All on Day 1. What a guy. Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho. Have you looked at the particulars? I like it. However, he's bound and determined to get it and everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current time and won't in the near future. &q
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Wrong Anne. Anybody but Hillary or an avowed socialist. Besides, Hillary is under some serious investigation by the FBI right now. One hundred and fifty FBI agents are investigating her right now and a federal judge wants her server. She didn't delete 30,000 e-mails of yoga routines and wedding plans. That's called *obstruction of justice*. Obama can't pardon her because she hasn't been tried and convicted and if he refuses to indict her after an FBI recommendation to, all hell will break loose. From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She could never beat Trump. But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to win. This will never happen. Hillary will be our next President. Bernie scares too many who are irrationally afraid of "socialists" and there are not enough crazy Republicans to secure Trump as the next White House resident - I can see it now; everything done in Rococo style with plenty of dripping gold furniture and fixtures. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself! From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the school yard. I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward foolsliars, all of you. Wimps, weak. I bet you couldn't pass a bill if you tried. The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget. I'll make sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night. Heck, I'll do it myself. I don't need you. I have a billion dollars. I can run this country by myself. I'm comin' for you, don't forget. I'll sue the pants off of you. I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses. Watch your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists and any other problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound familiar? From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to deliver. Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together. He just thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build things right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves to their parent countries voluntarily. All on Day 1. What a guy. Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho. Have you looked at the particulars? I like it. However, he's bound and determined to get it and everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current time and won't in the near future. " The cost of this $75 billion a year plan is fully paid for by imposing a tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street speculators who nearly destroyed the economy seven years ago. " ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote for? When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. Benjamin Franklin. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoog
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Share, you are a woman in this life and a smart one, a fighter. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : What you say is very logical and makes a lot of sense. However, most people operate from a different place than logic and sense, esp when it comes to politics which is so much about perception and unconscious motivations, even primal ones. My guess is most Americans don't like a smart woman. And they certainly don't like a smart woman who's also a "fighter." They like women who are like Sanders wife, very comforting and motherly. Or Melania who's gorgeous and supportive of her family. Again, these are very primal currents in the human psyche. Another factor which plays out on the subliminal level, is that Hillary looks like a Republican wife! Or Margaret Thatcher! As it is, we live in a very visual culture and these cues operate on very unconscious levels. Over and over and over again. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article I see it oppositely to you. Hillary could win and she could beat Trump. She is a fighter—one should never underestimate the power of woman of intention when she sets her mind to something. Hillary is a survivor and she is intelligent and knowledgable and experienced and dedicated. She is well spoken and she's thoughtful. She missteps here and there and because her every facial expression is being subjected to negative scrutiny and pronouncement and sexist attack, she suffers in the media. Her tone is sometimes off and her slogan and logo aren't the best. But, let us remember we aren't electing a slogan or a logo. I think she needs to blow by and play past the accusations and just laugh at the jokesters and let these things roll off her back a bit more. Stay focused on the positive message exclusively and the depth and intelligence she would bring to the White House. Relax, be herself and go for it. Bernie's better at just letting it all hang out. He doesn't apologize for himself and neither does Trump. She needs to stop explaining and start campaigning with unbounded enthusiasm everywhere she goes, making sure that her message is not about herself, but about the people. I think it is, honestly, but she needs to change her campaign message and her delivery and her demeanor some and stay on point. "Illegitimum non carborundum." She's breaking new ground. Bernie is primarily an activist and a good one who communicates his message clearly, but all his great ideas are underwritten by his single-minded focus (comes out in every one of his speeches no matter what the topic) to take down and disable the "wealth structure" and "make them pay." It's global, not limited to the U.S. and he won't be able to start making inroads into it "locally" (U.S.) without a major and sustained "revolution" on the part of the American people. We aren't there, we aren't even close. He should throw his support behind Hillary, when the time comes. And then, yes, keep the ball rolling with activism at the ground level, for the votes for our elected representatives, for continuing to educate the masses and the millennials that think he's a cutie pie. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She could never beat Trump. But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to win. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself! From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the school yard. I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward foolsliars, all of you. Wimps, weak. I bet you couldn't pass a bill if you tried. The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget. I'll make sure that all
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What you say is very logical and makes a lot of sense. However, most people operate from a different place than logic and sense, esp when it comes to politics which is so much about perception and unconscious motivations, even primal ones. My guess is most Americans don't like a smart woman. And they certainly don't like a smart woman who's also a "fighter." They like women who are like Sanders wife, very comforting and motherly. Or Melania who's gorgeous and supportive of her family. Again, these are very primal currents in the human psyche. Another factor which plays out on the subliminal level, is that Hillary looks like a Republican wife! Or Margaret Thatcher! As it is, we live in a very visual culture and these cues operate on very unconscious levels. Over and over and over again. From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article I see it oppositely to you. Hillary could win and she could beat Trump. She is a fighter—one should never underestimate the power of woman of intention when she sets her mind to something. Hillary is a survivor and she is intelligent and knowledgable and experienced and dedicated. She is well spoken and she's thoughtful. She missteps here and there and because her every facial expression is being subjected to negative scrutiny and pronouncement and sexist attack, she suffers in the media. Her tone is sometimes off and her slogan and logo aren't the best. But, let us remember we aren't electing a slogan or a logo. I think she needs to blow by and play past the accusations and just laugh at the jokesters and let these things roll off her back a bit more. Stay focused on the positive message exclusively and the depth and intelligence she would bring to the White House. Relax, be herself and go for it. Bernie's better at just letting it all hang out. He doesn't apologize for himself and neither does Trump. She needs to stop explaining and start campaigning with unbounded enthusiasm everywhere she goes, making sure that her message is not about herself, but about the people. I think it is, honestly, but she needs to change her campaign message and her delivery and her demeanor some and stay on point. "Illegitimum non carborundum." She's breaking new ground. Bernie is primarily an activist and a good one who communicates his message clearly, but all his great ideas are underwritten by his single-minded focus (comes out in every one of his speeches no matter what the topic) to take down and disable the "wealth structure" and "make them pay." It's global, not limited to the U.S. and he won't be able to start making inroads into it "locally" (U.S.) without a major and sustained "revolution" on the part of the American people. We aren't there, we aren't even close. He should throw his support behind Hillary, when the time comes. And then, yes, keep the ball rolling with activism at the ground level, for the votes for our elected representatives, for continuing to educate the masses and the millennials that think he's a cutie pie. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She could never beat Trump. But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to win. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself! From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the school yard. I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward foolsliars, all of you. Wimps, weak. I bet you couldn't pass a bill if you tried. The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget. I'll make sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night. Heck, I'll do it myself. I d
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Trump isn't radical. Just sounds that way because he comes off as an American version of Benito Mussolini. He's going to *make the trains run on time* kind of guy. He has supported a lot of liberal causes in the past and I doubt he has really changed. He is far more liberal than conservative but he knows how to *sell* himself. What I think makes this guy *dangerous* is how he will govern. He says he has mastered the *art of the deal* and that is how he will handle congress. "Give me what I want as a Republican or I'll give the Democrats what they want and make Republicans sorry that they didn't work with me". Democrats will be chomping at the bit to stick it to Republicans. This will work both ways, just depends on who has the majority in congress. He cares more about *winning* than conservative or liberal principals. From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:00 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She could never beat Trump. But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to win. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself! From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the school yard. I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward foolsliars, all of you. Wimps, weak. I bet you couldn't pass a bill if you tried. The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget. I'll make sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night. Heck, I'll do it myself. I don't need you. I have a billion dollars. I can run this country by myself. I'm comin' for you, don't forget. I'll sue the pants off of you. I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses. Watch your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists and any other problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound familiar? From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to deliver. Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together. He just thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build things right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves to their parent countries voluntarily. All on Day 1. What a guy. Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho. Have you looked at the particulars? I like it. However, he's bound and determined to get it and everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current time and won't in the near future. " The cost of this $75 billion a year plan is fully paid for by imposing a tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street speculators who nearly destroyed the economy seven years ago. " ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote for? When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. Benjamin Franklin. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
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I see it oppositely to you. Hillary could win and she could beat Trump. She is a fighter—one should never underestimate the power of woman of intention when she sets her mind to something. Hillary is a survivor and she is intelligent and knowledgable and experienced and dedicated. She is well spoken and she's thoughtful. She missteps here and there and because her every facial expression is being subjected to negative scrutiny and pronouncement and sexist attack, she suffers in the media. Her tone is sometimes off and her slogan and logo aren't the best. But, let us remember we aren't electing a slogan or a logo. I think she needs to blow by and play past the accusations and just laugh at the jokesters and let these things roll off her back a bit more. Stay focused on the positive message exclusively and the depth and intelligence she would bring to the White House. Relax, be herself and go for it. Bernie's better at just letting it all hang out. He doesn't apologize for himself and neither does Trump. She needs to stop explaining and start campaigning with unbounded enthusiasm everywhere she goes, making sure that her message is not about herself, but about the people. I think it is, honestly, but she needs to change her campaign message and her delivery and her demeanor some and stay on point. "Illegitimum non carborundum." She's breaking new ground. Bernie is primarily an activist and a good one who communicates his message clearly, but all his great ideas are underwritten by his single-minded focus (comes out in every one of his speeches no matter what the topic) to take down and disable the "wealth structure" and "make them pay." It's global, not limited to the U.S. and he won't be able to start making inroads into it "locally" (U.S.) without a major and sustained "revolution" on the part of the American people. We aren't there, we aren't even close. He should throw his support behind Hillary, when the time comes. And then, yes, keep the ball rolling with activism at the ground level, for the votes for our elected representatives, for continuing to educate the masses and the millennials that think he's a cutie pie. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She could never beat Trump. But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to win. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself! From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the school yard. I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward foolsliars, all of you. Wimps, weak. I bet you couldn't pass a bill if you tried. The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget. I'll make sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night. Heck, I'll do it myself. I don't need you. I have a billion dollars. I can run this country by myself. I'm comin' for you, don't forget. I'll sue the pants off of you. I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses. Watch your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists and any other problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound familiar? From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to deliver. Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together. He just thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold plated trumpet and magically, the econom
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Ah ha...except that line would apply to a Trump presidency at the onset for everything and everyone (Republicans and Democrats both), versus on select decisions after Obama's multiple years of intention and attempts to work "with" the Republicans in Congress—who simply were not able to stand up and participate in the "the art of the deal." (That title cracks me up; I haven't read the book and won't, but can imagine Trump's take on it and the tactics he likely deploys.) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself! From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the school yard. I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward foolsliars, all of you. Wimps, weak. I bet you couldn't pass a bill if you tried. The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget. I'll make sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night. Heck, I'll do it myself. I don't need you. I have a billion dollars. I can run this country by myself. I'm comin' for you, don't forget. I'll sue the pants off of you. I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses. Watch your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists and any other problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound familiar? From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to deliver. Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together. He just thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build things right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves to their parent countries voluntarily. All on Day 1. What a guy. Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho. Have you looked at the particulars? I like it. However, he's bound and determined to get it and everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current time and won't in the near future. " The cost of this $75 billion a year plan is fully paid for by imposing a tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street speculators who nearly destroyed the economy seven years ago. " ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote for? When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. Benjamin Franklin. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article You know, he makes some excellent points. It is true that Hillary is not a great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the time. Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people. They say it's about her. It is true that Trump will do everything he can to lynch her and he won't let up. If she defends, she loses. He will continue to play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that isn't talked about, but that surely exists in the minds of both men and women. The undermining has already started and has been quite effective. I will agree that the more interesting match that would force us to choose ideologically would be a Sanders/Trump choice. SuperTuesday is around the corner. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : This is a very well argued article saying that Clinton cannot beat Trump but Sanders can. Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nomination Means a Trump Presidency | Current Affairs http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nominati
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She could never beat Trump. But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to win. This will never happen. Hillary will be our next President. Bernie scares too many who are irrationally afraid of "socialists" and there are not enough crazy Republicans to secure Trump as the next White House resident - I can see it now; everything done in Rococo style with plenty of dripping gold furniture and fixtures. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself! From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the school yard. I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward foolsliars, all of you. Wimps, weak. I bet you couldn't pass a bill if you tried. The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget. I'll make sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night. Heck, I'll do it myself. I don't need you. I have a billion dollars. I can run this country by myself. I'm comin' for you, don't forget. I'll sue the pants off of you. I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses. Watch your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists and any other problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound familiar? From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to deliver. Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together. He just thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build things right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves to their parent countries voluntarily. All on Day 1. What a guy. Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho. Have you looked at the particulars? I like it. However, he's bound and determined to get it and everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current time and won't in the near future. " The cost of this $75 billion a year plan is fully paid for by imposing a tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street speculators who nearly destroyed the economy seven years ago. " ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote for? When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. Benjamin Franklin. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article You know, he makes some excellent points. It is true that Hillary is not a great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the time. Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people. They say it's about her. It is true that Trump will do everything he can to lynch her and he won't let up. If she defends, she loses. He will continue to play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that isn't talked about, but that surely exists in the minds of both men and women. The undermining has already started
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But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She could never beat Trump. But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to win. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself! From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the school yard. I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward foolsliars, all of you. Wimps, weak. I bet you couldn't pass a bill if you tried. The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget. I'll make sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night. Heck, I'll do it myself. I don't need you. I have a billion dollars. I can run this country by myself. I'm comin' for you, don't forget. I'll sue the pants off of you. I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses. Watch your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists and any other problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound familiar? From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to deliver. Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together. He just thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build things right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves to their parent countries voluntarily. All on Day 1. What a guy. Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho. Have you looked at the particulars? I like it. However, he's bound and determined to get it and everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current time and won't in the near future. " The cost of this $75 billion a year plan is fully paid for by imposing a tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street speculators who nearly destroyed the economy seven years ago. " ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote for? When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. Benjamin Franklin. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article You know, he makes some excellent points. It is true that Hillary is not a great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the time. Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people. They say it's about her. It is true that Trump will do everything he can to lynch her and he won't let up. If she defends, she loses. He will continue to play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that isn't talked about, but that surely exists in the minds of both men and women. The undermining has already started and has been quite effective. I will agree that the more interesting match that would force us to choose ideologically would be a Sanders/Trump choice. SuperTuesday is around the corner. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : This is a very well argued article saying that Clinton cannot beat Trump but Sanders can. Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nomination
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Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself! From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the school yard. I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward foolsliars, all of you. Wimps, weak. I bet you couldn't pass a bill if you tried. The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget. I'll make sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night. Heck, I'll do it myself. I don't need you. I have a billion dollars. I can run this country by myself. I'm comin' for you, don't forget. I'll sue the pants off of you. I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses. Watch your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists and any other problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound familiar? From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to deliver. Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together. He just thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build things right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves to their parent countries voluntarily. All on Day 1. What a guy. Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho. Have you looked at the particulars? I like it. However, he's bound and determined to get it and everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current time and won't in the near future. " The cost of this $75 billion a year plan is fully paid for by imposing a tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street speculators who nearly destroyed the economy seven years ago. " ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote for? When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. Benjamin Franklin. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article You know, he makes some excellent points. It is true that Hillary is not a great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the time. Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people. They say it's about her. It is true that Trump will do everything he can to lynch her and he won't let up. If she defends, she loses. He will continue to play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that isn't talked about, but that surely exists in the minds of both men and women. The undermining has already started and has been quite effective. I will agree that the more interesting match that would force us to choose ideologically would be a Sanders/Trump choice. SuperTuesday is around the corner. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : This is a very well argued article saying that Clinton cannot beat Trump but Sanders can. Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nomination Means a Trump Presidency | Current Affairs | | | | | | Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nominati... With Donald Trump lookingincreasinglylikely to actually be the Republican nominee for President, it’s long past time for the Democrats to sta... | | | View on static.currentaffairs.org| Preview by Yahoo | | | #yiv6765515995 #yiv6765515995 -- #yiv6765515995ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv6765515995 #yiv6765515995ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv6765515995 #yiv6765515995ygrp-mkp #yiv6765515995hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv6765515995 #yiv6765515995ygrp-mkp #yiv6765
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
Hmmm, then you should be pulling for his nomination.How could enough people vote for him to get elected? From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote : Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to deliver. Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together. He just thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build things right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves to their parent countries voluntarily. All on Day 1. What a guy. I know. I had that thought as well. I don't think he has considered any of this. In fact, his bid for the White House appears as if it started out as some sort of lark that has gotten out of hand - even he didn't think it would get this far. But here we are; Trump will get the Republican nomination (my prediction, unless there are videos of him molesting children or gutting puppies) but he won't get elected. I am confident of this. However, if there was a way to measure the collective anxiety of all of the Trump haters, I think they would find that there is real anxiety, real angst within the population right now. I mean, it is a real thing, I'm feeling it and although I have chosen Canada as my home it will effect us all if he were to actually become President (which he won't). Am I in denial? Maybe. Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho. Have you looked at the particulars? I like it. However, he's bound and determined to get it and everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current time and won't in the near future. " The cost of this $75 billion a year plan is fully paid for by imposing a tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street speculators who nearly destroyed the economy seven years ago. " ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote for? When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. Benjamin Franklin. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article You know, he makes some excellent points. It is true that Hillary is not a great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the time. Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people. They say it's about her. It is true that Trump will do everything he can to lynch her and he won't let up. If she defends, she loses. He will continue to play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that isn't talked about, but that surely exists in the minds of both men and women. The undermining has already started and has been quite effective. I will agree that the more interesting match that would force us to choose ideologically would be a Sanders/Trump choice. SuperTuesday is around the corner. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : This is a very well argued article saying that Clinton cannot beat Trump but Sanders can. Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nomination Means a Trump Presidency | Current Affairs | | | | | | Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nominati... With Donald Trump lookingincreasinglylikely to actually be the Republican nominee for President, it’s long past time for the Democrats to sta... | | | View on static.currentaffairs.org| Preview by Yahoo | | | #yiv8884216557 #yiv8884216557 -- #yiv8884216557ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv8884216557 #yiv8884216557ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv8884216557 #yiv8884216557ygrp-mkp #yiv8884216557hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv8884216557 #yiv8884216557ygrp-mkp #yiv8884216557ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv8884216557 #yiv8884216557ygrp-mkp .yiv8884216557ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv8884216557 #yiv8884216557ygrp-mkp .yiv8884216557ad p {margin:0;}#yiv8884216557 #yiv8884216557ygrp-mkp .yiv8884216557ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv8884216557 #yiv8884216557ygrp-sponsor #yiv8884216557ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv8884216557 #yiv8884216557ygrp-sponsor #yiv88842165
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the school yard. I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward foolsliars, all of you. Wimps, weak. I bet you couldn't pass a bill if you tried. The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget. I'll make sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night. Heck, I'll do it myself. I don't need you. I have a billion dollars. I can run this country by myself. I'm comin' for you, don't forget. I'll sue the pants off of you. I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses. Watch your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists and any other problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound familiar? From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to deliver. Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together. He just thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build things right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves to their parent countries voluntarily. All on Day 1. What a guy. Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho. Have you looked at the particulars? I like it. However, he's bound and determined to get it and everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current time and won't in the near future. " The cost of this $75 billion a year plan is fully paid for by imposing a tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street speculators who nearly destroyed the economy seven years ago. " ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote for? When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. Benjamin Franklin. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article You know, he makes some excellent points. It is true that Hillary is not a great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the time. Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people. They say it's about her. It is true that Trump will do everything he can to lynch her and he won't let up. If she defends, she loses. He will continue to play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that isn't talked about, but that surely exists in the minds of both men and women. The undermining has already started and has been quite effective. I will agree that the more interesting match that would force us to choose ideologically would be a Sanders/Trump choice. SuperTuesday is around the corner. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : This is a very well argued article saying that Clinton cannot beat Trump but Sanders can. Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nomination Means a Trump Presidency | Current Affairs http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nominati... http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency With Donald Trump lookingincreasinglylikely to actually be the Republican nominee for President, it’s long past time for the Democrats to sta... View on static.currentaffairs.org http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency Preview by Yahoo
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to deliver. Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together. He just thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build things right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves to their parent countries voluntarily. All on Day 1. What a guy. I know. I had that thought as well. I don't think he has considered any of this. In fact, his bid for the White House appears as if it started out as some sort of lark that has gotten out of hand - even he didn't think it would get this far. But here we are; Trump will get the Republican nomination (my prediction, unless there are videos of him molesting children or gutting puppies) but he won't get elected. I am confident of this. However, if there was a way to measure the collective anxiety of all of the Trump haters, I think they would find that there is real anxiety, real angst within the population right now. I mean, it is a real thing, I'm feeling it and although I have chosen Canada as my home it will effect us all if he were to actually become President (which he won't). Am I in denial? Maybe. Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho. Have you looked at the particulars? I like it. However, he's bound and determined to get it and everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current time and won't in the near future. " The cost of this $75 billion a year plan is fully paid for by imposing a tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street speculators who nearly destroyed the economy seven years ago. " ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote for? When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. Benjamin Franklin. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article You know, he makes some excellent points. It is true that Hillary is not a great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the time. Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people. They say it's about her. It is true that Trump will do everything he can to lynch her and he won't let up. If she defends, she loses. He will continue to play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that isn't talked about, but that surely exists in the minds of both men and women. The undermining has already started and has been quite effective. I will agree that the more interesting match that would force us to choose ideologically would be a Sanders/Trump choice. SuperTuesday is around the corner. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This is a very well argued article saying that Clinton cannot beat Trump but Sanders can. Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nomination Means a Trump Presidency | Current Affairs http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nominati... http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency With Donald Trump lookingincreasinglylikely to actually be the Republican nominee for President, it’s long past time for the Democrats to sta... View on static.currentaffairs.org http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency Preview by Yahoo
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Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists and any other problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound familiar? From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to deliver. Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together. He just thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build things right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves to their parent countries voluntarily. All on Day 1. What a guy. Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho. Have you looked at the particulars? I like it. However, he's bound and determined to get it and everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current time and won't in the near future. " The cost of this $75 billion a year plan is fully paid for by imposing a tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street speculators who nearly destroyed the economy seven years ago. " ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote for? When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. Benjamin Franklin. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article You know, he makes some excellent points. It is true that Hillary is not a great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the time. Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people. They say it's about her. It is true that Trump will do everything he can to lynch her and he won't let up. If she defends, she loses. He will continue to play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that isn't talked about, but that surely exists in the minds of both men and women. The undermining has already started and has been quite effective. I will agree that the more interesting match that would force us to choose ideologically would be a Sanders/Trump choice. SuperTuesday is around the corner. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : This is a very well argued article saying that Clinton cannot beat Trump but Sanders can. Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nomination Means a Trump Presidency | Current Affairs | | | | | | Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nominati... With Donald Trump lookingincreasinglylikely to actually be the Republican nominee for President, it’s long past time for the Democrats to sta... | | | View on static.currentaffairs.org| Preview by Yahoo | | | #yiv7790909000 #yiv7790909000 -- #yiv7790909000ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv7790909000 #yiv7790909000ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv7790909000 #yiv7790909000ygrp-mkp #yiv7790909000hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv7790909000 #yiv7790909000ygrp-mkp #yiv7790909000ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv7790909000 #yiv7790909000ygrp-mkp .yiv7790909000ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv7790909000 #yiv7790909000ygrp-mkp .yiv7790909000ad p {margin:0;}#yiv7790909000 #yiv7790909000ygrp-mkp .yiv7790909000ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv7790909000 #yiv7790909000ygrp-sponsor #yiv7790909000ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv7790909000 #yiv7790909000ygrp-sponsor #yiv7790909000ygrp-lc #yiv7790909000hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv7790909000 #yiv7790909000ygrp-sponsor #yiv7790909000ygrp-lc .yiv7790909000ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv7790909000 #yiv7790909000actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv7790909000 #yiv7790909000activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv7790909000 #yiv7790909000activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv7790909000 #yiv7790909000activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv7790909000 #yiv7790909000activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv7790909000 #yiv7790909000activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv7790909000 #yiv7790909000activity span .yiv7790909000underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv7790909000 .yiv7790909000at
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Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to deliver. Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together. He just thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build things right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves to their parent countries voluntarily. All on Day 1. What a guy. Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho. Have you looked at the particulars? I like it. However, he's bound and determined to get it and everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current time and won't in the near future. " The cost of this $75 billion a year plan is fully paid for by imposing a tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street speculators who nearly destroyed the economy seven years ago. " ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote for? When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. Benjamin Franklin. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article You know, he makes some excellent points. It is true that Hillary is not a great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the time. Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people. They say it's about her. It is true that Trump will do everything he can to lynch her and he won't let up. If she defends, she loses. He will continue to play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that isn't talked about, but that surely exists in the minds of both men and women. The undermining has already started and has been quite effective. I will agree that the more interesting match that would force us to choose ideologically would be a Sanders/Trump choice. SuperTuesday is around the corner. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This is a very well argued article saying that Clinton cannot beat Trump but Sanders can. Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nomination Means a Trump Presidency | Current Affairs http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nominati... http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency With Donald Trump lookingincreasinglylikely to actually be the Republican nominee for President, it’s long past time for the Democrats to sta... View on static.currentaffairs.org http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote for? When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. Benjamin Franklin. From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article You know, he makes some excellent points. It is true that Hillary is not a great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the time. Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people. They say it's about her. It is true that Trump will do everything he can to lynch her and he won't let up. If she defends, she loses. He will continue to play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that isn't talked about, but that surely exists in the minds of both men and women. The undermining has already started and has been quite effective. I will agree that the more interesting match that would force us to choose ideologically would be a Sanders/Trump choice. SuperTuesday is around the corner. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This is a very well argued article saying that Clinton cannot beat Trump but Sanders can. Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nomination Means a Trump Presidency | Current Affairs | | | | | | Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nominati... With Donald Trump lookingincreasinglylikely to actually be the Republican nominee for President, it’s long past time for the Democrats to sta... | | | View on static.currentaffairs.org| Preview by Yahoo | | | #yiv6493038911 #yiv6493038911 -- #yiv6493038911ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv6493038911 #yiv6493038911ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv6493038911 #yiv6493038911ygrp-mkp #yiv6493038911hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv6493038911 #yiv6493038911ygrp-mkp #yiv6493038911ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv6493038911 #yiv6493038911ygrp-mkp .yiv6493038911ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv6493038911 #yiv6493038911ygrp-mkp .yiv6493038911ad p {margin:0;}#yiv6493038911 #yiv6493038911ygrp-mkp .yiv6493038911ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv6493038911 #yiv6493038911ygrp-sponsor #yiv6493038911ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv6493038911 #yiv6493038911ygrp-sponsor #yiv6493038911ygrp-lc #yiv6493038911hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv6493038911 #yiv6493038911ygrp-sponsor #yiv6493038911ygrp-lc .yiv6493038911ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv6493038911 #yiv6493038911actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv6493038911 #yiv6493038911activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv6493038911 #yiv6493038911activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv6493038911 #yiv6493038911activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv6493038911 #yiv6493038911activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv6493038911 #yiv6493038911activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv6493038911 #yiv6493038911activity span .yiv6493038911underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv6493038911 .yiv6493038911attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv6493038911 .yiv6493038911attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6493038911 .yiv6493038911attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv6493038911 .yiv6493038911attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv6493038911 .yiv6493038911attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6493038911 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv6493038911 .yiv6493038911bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv6493038911 .yiv6493038911bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6493038911 dd.yiv6493038911last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv6493038911 dd.yiv6493038911last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv6493038911 dd.yiv6493038911last p span.yiv6493038911yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv6493038911 div.yiv6493038911attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6493038911 div.yiv6493038911attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv6493038911 div.yiv6493038911file-title a, #yiv6493038911 div.yiv6493038911file-title a:active, #yiv6493038911 div.yiv6493038911file-title a:hover, #yiv6493038911 div.yiv6493038911file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6493038911 div.yiv6493038911photo-title a, #yiv6493038911 div.yiv6493038911photo-title a:active, #yiv6493038911 div.yiv6493038911photo-title a:hover, #yiv6493038911 div.yiv6493038911photo-title a:visited