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Salya, are you by any chance being ironic when you say FFL is a science based forum? On Saturday, March 1, 2014 2:18 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Perfectly reasonable request I would have said. No harm in putting the products to the test, this being a science based forum... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 3/1/2014 1:29 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: P'raps the jyotish-ees here on FFL can cast a chart for the Ukraine Never pass up an opportunity to prove a political point by bashing the Hindus, or the Jews, in the face of a human tragedy. Go figure.
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A tiny tease on the fact we all love science but occasionally confuse it with other less rigorous stuff. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Salya, are you by any chance being ironic when you say FFL is a science based forum? On Saturday, March 1, 2014 2:18 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Perfectly reasonable request I would have said. No harm in putting the products to the test, this being a science based forum... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 3/1/2014 1:29 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: P'raps the jyotish-ees here on FFL can cast a chart for the Ukraine Never pass up an opportunity to prove a political point by bashing the Hindus, or the Jews, in the face of a human tragedy. Go figure.
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(-: About loving science, yesterday I was rewatching a West Wing episode in which a political consultant was telling the US president and his main team members, that you can't sell science. It's no good telling the American people that the AMA considers addiction a disease. Even though that's what science says. The American people don't want the govt to spend more on treatment and less on enforcement. I realized that that is still the situation in the US. Science doesn't sell anybody on anything. But I've definitely become more delighted by science from some of the stuff you've posted. On Sunday, March 2, 2014 12:32 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: A tiny tease on the fact we all love science but occasionally confuse it with other less rigorous stuff. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Salya, are you by any chance being ironic when you say FFL is a science based forum? On Saturday, March 1, 2014 2:18 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Perfectly reasonable request I would have said. No harm in putting the products to the test, this being a science based forum... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 3/1/2014 1:29 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: P'raps the jyotish-ees here on FFL can cast a chart for the Ukraine Never pass up an opportunity to prove a political point by bashing the Hindus, or the Jews, in the face of a human tragedy. Go figure.
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Just say *NO* to WWIII. Let the Russians and Ukrainians sort it out. America is broke and can't afford any more wars. On 03/01/2014 08:22 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: There will be costs if the Russians send in military troops into the Crimea. President Barack Obama warned Moscow on Friday. Obama has crossed a red line (no pun intended) so the Russians recalled their U.S. ambassador to Moscow. Now the poor people in Ukraine are really screwed. Go figure. Newspeak Dictionary: U.S. Officials See Russian Incursion into Ukraine as an 'Uncontested Arrival,' Not an 'Invasion' http://www.weeklystandard.com/ http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/cnn-us-officials-saying-russian-military-incursion-ukraine-uncontested-arrival-not-invasion_783629.html In other words, to save face over the fact that there's nothing much we can do to stop this, the official U.S. line is that this can't be an invasion if the Russians are being ... greeted as liberators. http://hotair.com/ http://hotair.com/archives/2014/02/28/u-s-assessment-of-crimea-this-isnt-an-invasion-its-an-uncontested-arrival/
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Don't worry, they will. Could you imagine a war between US and Russia just now? They could annihilate the Earth a thousand times over before you even reply to this. That's why the US war machine only attacks third world countries that are already on their knees. Anything else would rapidly become a very dangerous stand-off. I bet Putin plays a better game of poker than Obama. Best to pretend it isn't something worth getting upset about than to lose face later on ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Just say NO to WWIII. Let the Russians and Ukrainians sort it out. America is broke and can't afford any more wars. On 03/01/2014 08:22 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: There will be costs if the Russians send in military troops into the Crimea. President Barack Obama warned Moscow on Friday. Obama has crossed a red line (no pun intended) so the Russians recalled their U.S. ambassador to Moscow. Now the poor people in Ukraine are really screwed. Go figure. Newspeak Dictionary: U.S. Officials See Russian Incursion into Ukraine as an 'Uncontested Arrival,' Not an 'Invasion' http://www.weeklystandard.com/ http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/cnn-us-officials-saying-russian-military-incursion-ukraine-uncontested-arrival-not-invasion_783629.html In other words, to save face over the fact that there’s nothing much we can do to stop this, the official U.S. line is that this can’t be an invasion if the Russians are being … greeted as liberators. http://hotair.com/ http://hotair.com/archives/2014/02/28/u-s-assessment-of-crimea-this-isnt-an-invasion-its-an-uncontested-arrival/
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From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2014 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Who Are You Going to Call? Don't worry, they will. Could you imagine a war between US and Russia just now? They could annihilate the Earth a thousand times over before you even reply to this. That's why the US war machine only attacks third world countries that are already on their knees. Anything else would rapidly become a very dangerous stand-off. I bet Putin plays a better game of poker than Obama. Best to pretend it isn't something worth getting upset about than to lose face later on You forget that the acronym MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) actually *appeals* to many of the religious fanatics on this planet. Think about the number of Chrisschuns in America who fund Israeli aggression *so that* they can bring about the very Apocalypse they seek. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Just say NO to WWIII. Let the Russians and Ukrainians sort it out. America is broke and can't afford any more wars. On 03/01/2014 08:22 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: There will be costs if the Russians send in military troops into the Crimea. President Barack Obama warned Moscow on Friday. Obama has crossed a red line (no pun intended) so the Russians recalled their U.S. ambassador to Moscow. Now the poor people in Ukraine are really screwed. Go figure. Newspeak Dictionary: U.S. Officials See Russian Incursion into Ukraine as an 'Uncontested Arrival,' Not an 'Invasion' http://www.weeklystandard.com/ In other words, to save face over the fact that there’s nothing much we can do to stop this, the official U.S. line is that this can’t be an invasion if the Russians are being … greeted as liberators. http://hotair.com/
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Salyavin, ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Don't worry, they will. Could you imagine a war between US and Russia just now? They could annihilate the Earth a thousand times over before you even reply to this. That's why the US war machine only attacks third world countries that are already on their knees. Anything else would rapidly become a very dangerous stand-off. I bet Putin plays a better game of poker than Obama. Best to pretend it isn't something worth getting upset about than to lose face later on Obama knew this was coming. He had to play this bluff to make Putin think about invading the Ukraine. Now that Putin called his bluff, Obama will take another tack by taking the fight at the UN. It's obviously idiotic for the US to start a war over this. I don't believe the US Congress will want to fight the Russians either. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Just say NO to WWIII. Let the Russians and Ukrainians sort it out. America is broke and can't afford any more wars. On 03/01/2014 08:22 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: There will be costs if the Russians send in military troops into the Crimea. President Barack Obama warned Moscow on Friday. Obama has crossed a red line (no pun intended) so the Russians recalled their U.S. ambassador to Moscow. Now the poor people in Ukraine are really screwed. Go figure. Newspeak Dictionary: U.S. Officials See Russian Incursion into Ukraine as an 'Uncontested Arrival,' Not an 'Invasion' http://www.weeklystandard.com/ http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/cnn-us-officials-saying-russian-military-incursion-ukraine-uncontested-arrival-not-invasion_783629.html In other words, to save face over the fact that there’s nothing much we can do to stop this, the official U.S. line is that this can’t be an invasion if the Russians are being … greeted as liberators. http://hotair.com/ http://hotair.com/archives/2014/02/28/u-s-assessment-of-crimea-this-isnt-an-invasion-its-an-uncontested-arrival/
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Yes, I read about that. I found it hard to believe but it turned out I was just wasn't capable of crediting people with behaviour like that! But then, there is a privately funded creation museum in America so it's clear they walk the walk big time. Not like over here where religion is at most a summer fete on the vicarage lawn. Mind you, I am seriously looking forward to Noah with Russell Crowe. Sounds like a classic ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2014 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Who Are You Going to Call? Don't worry, they will. Could you imagine a war between US and Russia just now? They could annihilate the Earth a thousand times over before you even reply to this. That's why the US war machine only attacks third world countries that are already on their knees. Anything else would rapidly become a very dangerous stand-off. I bet Putin plays a better game of poker than Obama. Best to pretend it isn't something worth getting upset about than to lose face later on You forget that the acronym MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) actually *appeals* to many of the religious fanatics on this planet. Think about the number of Chrisschuns in America who fund Israeli aggression *so that* they can bring about the very Apocalypse they seek. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Just say NO to WWIII. Let the Russians and Ukrainians sort it out. America is broke and can't afford any more wars. On 03/01/2014 08:22 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: There will be costs if the Russians send in military troops into the Crimea. President Barack Obama warned Moscow on Friday. Obama has crossed a red line (no pun intended) so the Russians recalled their U.S. ambassador to Moscow. Now the poor people in Ukraine are really screwed. Go figure. Newspeak Dictionary: U.S. Officials See Russian Incursion into Ukraine as an 'Uncontested Arrival,' Not an 'Invasion' http://www.weeklystandard.com/ http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/cnn-us-officials-saying-russian-military-incursion-ukraine-uncontested-arrival-not-invasion_783629.html In other words, to save face over the fact that there’s nothing much we can do to stop this, the official U.S. line is that this can’t be an invasion if the Russians are being … greeted as liberators. http://hotair.com/ http://hotair.com/archives/2014/02/28/u-s-assessment-of-crimea-this-isnt-an-invasion-its-an-uncontested-arrival/
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Bhairitu, ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Just say NO to WWIII. Let the Russians and Ukrainians sort it out. America is broke and can't afford any more wars. I think Obama knew this was coming. He made that comment to make the Russians think about their next move. Now that the Russians called his bluff, Obama will likely pursue the diplomatic route and protest at the UN. However, you're right in saying that the US can't afford another war. I don't believe Obama is foolish enough to fight the Russians. Also, the US does not really have any direct interest to protect in the Ukraine. Let's wait and see how this scenario plays out. On 03/01/2014 08:22 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: There will be costs if the Russians send in military troops into the Crimea. President Barack Obama warned Moscow on Friday. Obama has crossed a red line (no pun intended) so the Russians recalled their U.S. ambassador to Moscow. Now the poor people in Ukraine are really screwed. Go figure. Newspeak Dictionary: U.S. Officials See Russian Incursion into Ukraine as an 'Uncontested Arrival,' Not an 'Invasion' http://www.weeklystandard.com/ http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/cnn-us-officials-saying-russian-military-incursion-ukraine-uncontested-arrival-not-invasion_783629.html In other words, to save face over the fact that there’s nothing much we can do to stop this, the official U.S. line is that this can’t be an invasion if the Russians are being … greeted as liberators. http://hotair.com/ http://hotair.com/archives/2014/02/28/u-s-assessment-of-crimea-this-isnt-an-invasion-its-an-uncontested-arrival/
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Barry, ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2014 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Who Are You Going to Call? Don't worry, they will. Could you imagine a war between US and Russia just now? They could annihilate the Earth a thousand times over before you even reply to this. That's why the US war machine only attacks third world countries that are already on their knees. Anything else would rapidly become a very dangerous stand-off. I bet Putin plays a better game of poker than Obama. Best to pretend it isn't something worth getting upset about than to lose face later on You forget that the acronym MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) actually *appeals* to many of the religious fanatics on this planet. Think about the number of Chrisschuns in America who fund Israeli aggression *so that* they can bring about the very Apocalypse they seek. It's more likely that some members of the Russian Illuminati are trying to protect their financial interests in the Ukraine. So, they secretly lobbied the Russian Parliament to approve the attack. Putin himself is probably a secret member of the Illuminati since he was the one who proposed the invasion. And the American members of the Illuminati would probably approve the invasion in consideration of the investments involved. So, more likely there will be no war over this financial transaction. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Just say NO to WWIII. Let the Russians and Ukrainians sort it out. America is broke and can't afford any more wars. On 03/01/2014 08:22 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: There will be costs if the Russians send in military troops into the Crimea. President Barack Obama warned Moscow on Friday. Obama has crossed a red line (no pun intended) so the Russians recalled their U.S. ambassador to Moscow. Now the poor people in Ukraine are really screwed. Go figure. Newspeak Dictionary: U.S. Officials See Russian Incursion into Ukraine as an 'Uncontested Arrival,' Not an 'Invasion' http://www.weeklystandard.com/ http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/cnn-us-officials-saying-russian-military-incursion-ukraine-uncontested-arrival-not-invasion_783629.html In other words, to save face over the fact that there’s nothing much we can do to stop this, the official U.S. line is that this can’t be an invasion if the Russians are being … greeted as liberators. http://hotair.com/ http://hotair.com/archives/2014/02/28/u-s-assessment-of-crimea-this-isnt-an-invasion-its-an-uncontested-arrival/
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Don't forget that Springtime is Wartime be it Hitler or Dubya. I just like to get the anti-war meme going so we can build up a large protest. Some have pointed out that this Ukraine thang has the markings of a remake of WWI. Of course the rich will retire to their bunkers and we'll back up the cement trucks to make the bunkers their tombs. On 03/01/2014 10:47 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, March 1, 2014 7:12 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Who Are You Going to Call? Don't worry, they will. Could you imagine a war between US and Russia just now? They could annihilate the Earth a thousand times over before you even reply to this. That's why the US war machine only attacks third world countries that arealready on their knees. Anything else would rapidly become a very dangerous stand-off. I bet Putin plays a better game of poker than Obama. Best to pretend it isn't something worth getting upset about than to lose face later on You forget that the acronym MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) actually *appeals* to many of the religious fanatics on this planet. Think about the number of Chrisschuns in America who fund Israeli aggression *so that* they can bring about the very Apocalypse they seek. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Just say *NO* to WWIII. Let the Russians and Ukrainians sort it out. America is broke and can't afford any more wars. On 03/01/2014 08:22 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: There will be costs if the Russians send in military troops into the Crimea. President Barack Obama warned Moscow on Friday. Obama has crossed a red line (no pun intended) so the Russians recalled their U.S. ambassador to Moscow. Now the poor people in Ukraine are really screwed. Go figure. Newspeak Dictionary: U.S. Officials See Russian Incursion into Ukraine as an 'Uncontested Arrival,' Not an 'Invasion' http://www.weeklystandard.com/ http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/cnn-us-officials-saying-russian-military-incursion-ukraine-uncontested-arrival-not-invasion_783629.html In other words, to save face over the fact that there’s nothing much we can do to stop this, the official U.S. line is that this can’t be an invasion if the Russians are being … greeted as liberators. http://hotair.com/ http://hotair.com/archives/2014/02/28/u-s-assessment-of-crimea-this-isnt-an-invasion-its-an-uncontested-arrival/
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I know some of them, they are the most sincere and at the same time the most chilling people to be around - definitely people who need to live next to a Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge so they can be changed by the vibes - if you believe in that sort of thing. Interestingly folks of that type were reaaaly into the Lord of the Rings movies. I know a man, TM initiator, whose sister is a fundamentalist Christian who is of that stripe and she tried to get everyone in her family to go see the Two Towers and the Return of the King, especially. When they were all sitting in the theater during one of the big battle scenes his sister whispered See? This is what Armageddon is going to be like! My initiator friend said his sister was watching the screen like Jay-sus himself was on it. On Sat, 3/1/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Who Are You Going to Call? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, March 1, 2014, 6:57 PM Yes, I read about that. I found it hard to believe but it turned out I was just wasn't capable of crediting people with behaviour like that! But then, there is a privately funded creation museum in America so it's clear they walk the walk big time. Not like over here where religion is at most a summer fete on the vicarage lawn. Mind you, I am seriously looking forward to Noah with Russell Crowe. Sounds like a classic ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2014 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Who Are You Going to Call? Don't worry, they will. Could you imagine a war between US and Russia just now? They could annihilate the Earth a thousand times over before you even reply to this. That's why the US war machine only attacks third world countries that are already on their knees. Anything else would rapidly become a very dangerous stand-off. I bet Putin plays a better game of poker than Obama. Best to pretend it isn't something worth getting upset about than to lose face later on You forget that the acronym MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) actually *appeals* to many of the religious fanatics on this planet. Think about the number of Chrisschuns in America who fund Israeli aggression *so that* they can bring about the very Apocalypse they seek. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Just say NO to WWIII. Let the Russians and Ukrainians sort it out. America is broke and can't afford any more wars. On 03/01/2014 08:22 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: There will be costs if the Russians send in military troops into the Crimea. President Barack Obama warned Moscow on Friday. Obama has crossed a red line (no pun intended) so the Russians recalled their U.S. ambassador to Moscow. Now the poor people in Ukraine are really screwed. Go figure. Newspeak Dictionary: U.S. Officials See Russian Incursion into Ukraine as an 'Uncontested Arrival,' Not an 'Invasion' http://www.weeklystandard.com/ In other words, to save face over the fact that there’s nothing much we can do to stop this, the official U.S. line is that this can’t be an invasion if the Russians are being … greeted as liberators. http://hotair.com/
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And the post he's replying to railed against the Chrisschun religious fanatics. John, just for the record, I really, really, really hope you're not so far gone that you believe I consider you sane. I don't. From: jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2014 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Who Are You Going to Call? Barry, ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2014 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Who Are You Going to Call? Don't worry, they will. Could you imagine a war between US and Russia just now? They could annihilate the Earth a thousand times over before you even reply to this. That's why the US war machine only attacks third world countries that are already on their knees. Anything else would rapidly become a very dangerous stand-off. I bet Putin plays a better game of poker than Obama. Best to pretend it isn't something worth getting upset about than to lose face later on You forget that the acronym MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) actually *appeals* to many of the religious fanatics on this planet. Think about the number of Chrisschuns in America who fund Israeli aggression *so that* they can bring about the very Apocalypse they seek. It's more likely that some members of the Russian Illuminati are trying to protect their financial interests in the Ukraine. So, they secretly lobbied the Russian Parliament to approve the attack. Putin himself is probably a secret member of the Illuminati since he was the one who proposed the invasion. And the American members of the Illuminati would probably approve the invasion in consideration of the investments involved. So, more likely there will be no war over this financial transaction.
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P'raps the jyotish-ees here on FFL can cast a chart for the Ukraine and tell us what the outcome will be, albeit according to Buck and Nabby, the whole thing in the Ukraine is due to world wide TMSP practice, so maybe there is nothing to worry about over there. On Sat, 3/1/14, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Who Are You Going to Call? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, March 1, 2014, 7:28 PM Don't forget that Springtime is Wartime be it Hitler or Dubya. I just like to get the anti-war meme going so we can build up a large protest. Some have pointed out that this Ukraine thang has the markings of a remake of WWI. Of course the rich will retire to their bunkers and we'll back up the cement trucks to make the bunkers their tombs. On 03/01/2014 10:47 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2014 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Who Are You Going to Call? Don't worry, they will. Could you imagine a war between US and Russia just now? They could annihilate the Earth a thousand times over before you even reply to this. That's why the US war machine only attacks third world countries that are already on their knees. Anything else would rapidly become a very dangerous stand-off. I bet Putin plays a better game of poker than Obama. Best to pretend it isn't something worth getting upset about than to lose face later on You forget that the acronym MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) actually *appeals* to many of the religious fanatics on this planet. Think about the number of Chrisschuns in America who fund Israeli aggression *so that* they can bring about the very Apocalypse they seek. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Just say NO to WWIII. Let the Russians and Ukrainians sort it out. America is broke and can't afford any more wars. On 03/01/2014 08:22 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: There will be costs if the Russians send in military troops into the Crimea. President Barack Obama warned Moscow on Friday. Obama has crossed a red line (no pun intended) so
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On 3/1/2014 11:53 AM, Bhairitu wrote: Let the Russians and Ukrainians sort it out. That's easy for you to say, but how much gas and oil do the Ukrainians and the Europeans get from the Russians and at what cost? Go figure.
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On 3/1/2014 12:12 PM, salyavin808 wrote: I bet Putin plays a better game of poker than Obama My bet would be on supplying an alternative source of fuel to Ukraine and Europe. Since they are way behind in the fracking technology, we could export oil and gas to Europe and the Ukraine and just bypass Russia. Without the revenue coming in from the sale of oil and gas Russia would be probably bankrupt within five years. All we have to do is put in a sanction on the oil and gas coming out of Russia and Putin would be on his knees begging for a bailout from the EU. It's all about fuel supply, placement and positioning.
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Perhaps the only hope to soothe these troubled times is UK foreign secretary William Hague. He's been doing TM since he was 16, get some coherence in there guys! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Salyavin, ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Don't worry, they will. Could you imagine a war between US and Russia just now? They could annihilate the Earth a thousand times over before you even reply to this. That's why the US war machine only attacks third world countries that are already on their knees. Anything else would rapidly become a very dangerous stand-off. I bet Putin plays a better game of poker than Obama. Best to pretend it isn't something worth getting upset about than to lose face later on Obama knew this was coming. He had to play this bluff to make Putin think about invading the Ukraine. Now that Putin called his bluff, Obama will take another tack by taking the fight at the UN. It's obviously idiotic for the US to start a war over this. I don't believe the US Congress will want to fight the Russians either. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Just say NO to WWIII. Let the Russians and Ukrainians sort it out. America is broke and can't afford any more wars. On 03/01/2014 08:22 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: There will be costs if the Russians send in military troops into the Crimea. President Barack Obama warned Moscow on Friday. Obama has crossed a red line (no pun intended) so the Russians recalled their U.S. ambassador to Moscow. Now the poor people in Ukraine are really screwed. Go figure. Newspeak Dictionary: U.S. Officials See Russian Incursion into Ukraine as an 'Uncontested Arrival,' Not an 'Invasion' http://www.weeklystandard.com/ http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/cnn-us-officials-saying-russian-military-incursion-ukraine-uncontested-arrival-not-invasion_783629.html In other words, to save face over the fact that there’s nothing much we can do to stop this, the official U.S. line is that this can’t be an invasion if the Russians are being … greeted as liberators. http://hotair.com/ http://hotair.com/archives/2014/02/28/u-s-assessment-of-crimea-this-isnt-an-invasion-its-an-uncontested-arrival/
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On 3/1/2014 12:47 PM, TurquoiseBee wrote: You forget that the acronym MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) actually *appeals* to many of the religious fanatics on this planet. Think about the number of Chrisschuns in America who fund Israeli aggression *so that* they can bring about the very Apocalypse they seek. It looks like we can pretty much ignore Barry's contributions to political science - obviously he's biased against religious groups and his politics are mixed up with his own religion. It would probably be useless to point out that most of the Ukrainians are Christians who want to join the EU but the aggressors in Russia are the atheist communists who want to form a new Soviet Union. It does make some of us wonder which side this TurquoiseBee character is really on. Go figure.
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Nice idea, but for a start I doubt you've got enough to make a difference to Europe and Ukraine as well as yourselves. And besides, all gas and oil has to be sold on an open market, over here anyway. Russia could go to the UN and complain about protectionism. None of it is worth fighting a war over, Russia has enough other countries they sell to in it's trading bloc, they'd weather whatever we did. We'd better just hope all he wants is Crimea to protect the 60% Russians there. The UK will do nothing but bluster a bit to protect the gas supply we get from Putin. Ukraine will do what he wants or he'll switch the gas off like he did to Belarus a few years ago. We should have built loads more windmills and tidal generators when we had the chance! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 3/1/2014 12:12 PM, salyavin808 wrote: I bet Putin plays a better game of poker than Obama My bet would be on supplying an alternative source of fuel to Ukraine and Europe. Since they are way behind in the fracking technology, we could export oil and gas to Europe and the Ukraine and just bypass Russia. Without the revenue coming in from the sale of oil and gas Russia would be probably bankrupt within five years. All we have to do is put in a sanction on the oil and gas coming out of Russia and Putin would be on his knees begging for a bailout from the EU. It's all about fuel supply, placement and positioning.
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On 3/1/2014 1:28 PM, Bhairitu wrote: we'll back up the cement trucks to make the bunkers their tombs. Sorry, I'm just not seeing any cement trucks heading into the Crimea. How far do you think you'd get in your economic revolution going up against 300 Russian tanks?
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On 3/1/2014 1:28 PM, TurquoiseBee wrote: And the post he's replying to railed against the Chrisschun religious fanatics. What would it take to keep you on topic? I can send you a few dollars if you need it - would that help you focus on the issue at hand - the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Do you have a PayPal account? What does anyone's religion, or lack of one, have to do with the Russian invasion? It looks like what we've got here is a Barry brain problem situation on our hands. Go figure.
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On 3/1/2014 1:29 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: P'raps the jyotish-ees here on FFL can cast a chart for the Ukraine Never pass up an opportunity to prove a political point by bashing the Hindus, or the Jews, in the face of a human tragedy. Go figure.
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Perfectly reasonable request I would have said. No harm in putting the products to the test, this being a science based forum... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 3/1/2014 1:29 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: P'raps the jyotish-ees here on FFL can cast a chart for the Ukraine Never pass up an opportunity to prove a political point by bashing the Hindus, or the Jews, in the face of a human tragedy. Go figure.
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On 3/1/2014 2:07 PM, salyavin808 wrote: I doubt you've got enough to make a difference to Europe and Ukraine as well as yourselves. We've got plenty of natural gas over here in the Eagle Ford Shale, Bakken Shale and in Canada. Europe could bypass Russia and shut them down in a matter of months. With no revenue coming in the Russians would be helpless - bankrupt. And besides, all gas and oil has to be sold on an open market, over here anyway. Russia could go to the UN and complain about protectionism. There is already a series of complaints lodged with the EU - Russia has a monopoly on production, sales, and distribution which is not legal in the EU. So, there will probably be some big break ups in Russia. None of it is worth fighting a war over, Russia has enough other countries they sell to in it's trading bloc, they'd weather whatever we did. According to what I've read, Moscow is first and foremost concerned about maintaining the revenue from energy exports. This will override any political manipulation. Russia is deeply concerned about vast shale gas discoveries in the United States and elsewhere in Europe -- natural gas that could eventually be exported with the help of LNG terminals to Central and Eastern Europe. http://www.realclearworld.com/articles/2013/11/14/russias_pipelines_of_empire.html
