Re: [SG10] Updates to SD-6

2015-01-12 Thread Nelson, Clark
That does not sound entirely sane to me: I think you're suggesting that a programmer would duplicate some set of numeric literals, just so they could put digit separators in one copy of them. The risk of the two copies becoming out-of-sync seems like sufficient justification for any

Re: [SG10] Updates to SD-6: N4190

2015-01-12 Thread Nelson, Clark
I see portability as the main goal with SD-6: If a newer feature is not available on one of your target platform/compiler combinations you have to roll back to the older facility. Different compilers are at different places toward full feature support. Of course; but N4190 doesn't add a

Re: [SG10] Updates to SD-6

2015-01-12 Thread Nelson, Clark
The real (slight) reluctance: There is a tiny risk removing macros that have been shipped. OTOH, if no one in their right mind would use them then they shouldn't be out in the wild and then I say go ahead. It might be nice to have this solidified soonish so I can maybe back out before

Re: [SG10] Updates to SD-6

2015-01-09 Thread Ed Smith-Rowland
On 01/08/2015 08:29 PM, Richard Smith wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Nelson, Clark clark.nel...@intel.com mailto:clark.nel...@intel.com wrote: N4051 Allow typename in a template template parameter __cpp_typename_in_template_template_parm 201411 This may be too

Re: [SG10] Updates to SD-6

2015-01-09 Thread Richard Smith
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 7:19 AM, Ed Smith-Rowland 3dw...@verizon.net wrote: On 01/08/2015 08:29 PM, Richard Smith wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Nelson, Clark clark.nel...@intel.com wrote: N4051 Allow typename in a template template parameter

Re: [SG10] Updates to SD-6

2015-01-07 Thread Richard Smith
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Nelson, Clark clark.nel...@intel.com wrote: Finally looking at N4258: Cleaning-up noexcept in the Library The only thing I can think of that would be helpful is __cpp_lib_allocator_is_always_equal The really interesting question about this, like

Re: [SG10] Updates to SD-6

2015-01-02 Thread Aaron Ballman
On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 9:31 PM, Richard Smith rich...@metafoo.co.uk wrote: On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Nelson, Clark clark.nel...@intel.com wrote: N4266 - Attributes for namespaces and enumerators. They really are sort of two different things: __cpp_namespace_attributes 201411

Re: [SG10] Updates to SD-6

2014-12-30 Thread Ed Smith-Rowland
On 12/30/2014 12:54 PM, Nelson, Clark wrote: For N3928 Extending static_assert why not just bump up the date on __cpp_static_assert? Yeah, that's definitely worth considering. The change is a pretty minor tweak. (The recommendations I included for this were the ones provided in N3928 --

[SG10] Updates to SD-6

2014-12-29 Thread Nelson, Clark
I have finally gotten around to updating SD-6 on isocpp.org: https://isocpp.org/std/standing-documents/sd-6-sg10-feature-test-recommendations What's up there now differs from N4200 in just a few minor ways (according to my intention and knowledge): 1. An updated document date and history. 2. A