Not fast is not an option. Either working fast (and stable) or it is not
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or not depends on window manager (in our case metacity), not gtk or even
theme engine.
Nah... Not true. You can use xcompmgr ;) .
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I haven't seen first message of this topic, but imo, Inkscape shouldn't
be on official install CD or DVD, since it requires some skills,
adequate for Art spin.
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respectively, but grub seemed to not like that this time.
If you just use the 14 color pixmap, grub seems to deal with it just fine.
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If you look at this link you can see the full article.
http://www.linux.com/feature/127394
and the screenshot is here:
http://www.linux.com/var
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(but I think the theme is
ugly due to the color choice: blue and orange/brown).
We're not Parsix, we can have different choices (; .
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scheme?
Is it default Parsix theme?
I'm amazed how Parsix made the gnome theme and gnome panels fit
together with their wallpaper.
Me too :) .
Any chance of fedora going this route?
What about usability?
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Hi,
I want to show you simple theme, made for openSUSE, which I think is
great, because of its simplicity.
Here you go: http://en.opensuse.org/Artwork:Pixel_Pool/11.0/GreyGreen
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You probably do not understand why I'm so tango lover.
GNOME has ugly icon theme, until the tango folks began their work.
Almost all apps are now following the style, which is being common for
GNOME (like the Aquaish icons are common for OSX).
Some apps, until art revolution had ugly icons,
Kelly Miller wrote:
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
It's impossible to do a multi-DE icon set...
I'm sorry for using such crude language out of the blue, but that is
BULLSHIT. KDE and Gnome do not have that different an icon system that
they cannot be used in tandem. In fact, what you're saying
Kelly Miller wrote:
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QtCurve doesn't work well with GTK.
Funny, it works perfectly fine when I use it.
Most GNOME people don't want KDE's features and appearance, and vice
versa.
If someone mixes them, his problem.
Go and tell that to the people who run KDE
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Go and tell that to the people who run KDE and use Firefox and/or
Thunderbird as their main browser/email client. I guess they'd rather
have their principle programs stick out like sore thumbs.
Can I predict that you run Gnome as your main desktop? I've
Máirín Duffy wrote:
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Máirín Duffy wrote:
Jakub,
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
hi,
you know my opinion about echo:
1) You ALREADY sent this diatribe. Rather than re-sending it, think
about why nobody cared to reply to it.
2) I am losing my patience with your
Máirín Duffy wrote:
Jakub,
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
hi,
you know my opinion about echo:
1) You ALREADY sent this diatribe. Rather than re-sending it, think
about why nobody cared to reply to it.
2) I am losing my patience with your Echo bashing. Filing bug reports
for the icons you
Martin Sourada wrote:
On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 16:13 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote:
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
I can file bugs, but I'm sure they'll not fix it. - This was not the
thing you want to hear, I know, but that's true.
Do you understand why they may not want to, given your behavior
On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 23:06 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
Martin Sourada wrote:
Easier would be making tango-compiliant theme to play well with GNOME apps.
That would be pointless. We are offering an alternative that is
stylistically (coincidentally) in between the tango style and oxygen
hi,
you know my opinion about echo:
* it causes mixing of tangoish style and echo, because of well used
tango style and lack of icon in echo
* they are not complete and they cannot cover some icons because of
hardcoded pixmaps (not to accept is hardcoding echo instead of fixing that)
I agree close buttons should be bigger but isn't that too big of a
contrast to gtk close button?
22x22
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icon-naming-utils (freedesktop.org specs).
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Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
I agree close buttons should be bigger but isn't that too big of a
contrast to gtk close button?
22x22
look at a icon I have in Firefox now under Fedora 8:
http://www.zshare.net/image
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It requires GTK2 from SVN with special patch applied.
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Dnia 27-01-2008, nie o godzinie 21:58 +0100, Valent Turkovic pisze:
2008/1/27 Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Dnia 27-01-2008, nie o godzinie 15:53 +0100, Valent Turkovic pisze:
I found this gtk theme engine [1] with transparency and would love to
see it in fedora if possible
and folders in Nautilus...
BTW, GNOME developers are just doing NOTHING useful to end used. How
useful is GNOME-VFS → GVFS/GIO change to end user? It would see no
difference...
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@24x24 is a little bit blurry. Probably because of the perspective...
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they did it in GNOME's icon theme:
http://svn.gnome.org/svn/gnome-icon-theme/trunk/32x32/apps/accessories-dictionary.png
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nice too.
Overall, new Nodoka looks smoother and nicer. It puts modern feel into
GNOME environment.
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, remember - there's bigger
gtk-close icon used.
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Dnia 27-01-2008, nie o godzinie 02:46 +0100, Valent Turkovic pisze:
2008/1/27 Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Dnia 27-01-2008, nie o godzinie 00:16 +0100, Valent Turkovic pisze:
Hi,
I tested new Firefox 3 in Rawhide and it looks and works great! One
thing I noticed are the X
Dnia 25-01-2008, pią o godzinie 14:35 +0530, Rahul Sundaram pisze:
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
And that's stupid... Trademarks... Fedora is opensource, yep?
So why is it restricted with trademarks?
Free and open source licenses cover copyrights and not trademarks.
Trademarks
2| http://liviopl.fedorapeople.org/nl.png
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awesome and makes Linux well
recognized.
1| http://www.flickr.com/photos/livio-pl/2213995683/
2| http://stephenbrandt.com/tango-icons/fedora/
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making Fedora artwork
better... Ubuntu Logo also is registered trademark, but it's not
generated from SVG in all their artwork (look at boot splash screen or
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... Trademarks... Fedora is opensource, yep?
So why is it restricted with trademarks?
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Dnia 23-01-2008, śro o godzinie 18:53 +0200, Nicu Buculei pisze:
Martin Sourada wrote:
On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 17:12 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
1| http://www.flickr.com/photos/livio-pl/2213995683/
You have mistook GIF icon with transparency for scaled-down SVG. GIF
icon cannot
Hi,
I'm really not satisfied. Names suggested as F9 codenames are worst
than... PoKeMons.
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pisze:
On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 18:01 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
I'm...
What the FUCK does this have to do with Fedora's art?! If you REALLY
want to find someone to complain to then get off your ass, go outside
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Dnia 23-01-2008, śro o godzinie 13:01 -0500, Máirín Duffy pisze:
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
Dnia 23-01-2008, śro o godzinie 12:21 -0500, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
pisze:
On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 18:01 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
I'm...
What the FUCK does this have to do
It's me, again.
I've filed the bug [1].
1| https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429912
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letters, abc, are not good visible.
Maybe another metaphor for this icon? Eg book with glasses... Dunno...
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2008/1/17, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Those letters, abc, are not good visible.
Maybe another metaphor for this icon? Eg book with glasses... Dunno...
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Height could be few pixels higher, but it's good ;) .
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[9] http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/actions/document-save48b.png
[10] http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/actions/document-save48b.svg
Nice, but doesn't look like HDD at all.
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2008/1/10, Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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2008/1/9, Luya Tshimbalanga [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Valent Turkovic a écrit :
I know that lot of things you can't change because Gnome
I dislike them, but there's a hope in the end. These are only mockups.
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Thanks,
Martin
References:
[1] https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/wiki/Screenshots
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Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org
my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro
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Can I request logos SVG package (I think here's faster to obtain them)?
I lost them. Again :/ .
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No issues here with it being vertical. People are already turning folder
vertical.
I only saw them in M$' OS.
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Valent Turkovic wrote:
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
Fedora shouldn't change main color! It should only push some
freshness and live to the Linux desktop.
But fresh is a new colour :)
Come on you burned blue colour from all your monitors that if one more
blue theme comes out it will look
2008/1/9, Michael Beckwith [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
No issues here with it being vertical. People are already turning folder
vertical.
I only saw them in M$' OS.
Not looking hard enough.
http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/black-white?content=70299
It should provide simple GUI as Firefox needs to be usable.
EOT.
2008/1/6, Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Sun, 2008-01-06 at 09:00 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
Imagine end-users which want help even with changing wallpaper.
They would say my Internet is broken. Simple GUI
Hmmm... I looked again at this icons and I must tell it's too bright,
everything else is ok.
2008/1/7, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
2008/1/6, Luya Tshimbalanga [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I have taken some time to rework preference-desktop-pda icon for Echo.
For some reasons, it does not replace le
sites
fixes. I'd certainly hope that it has this effect for the RH/Fedora
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releasable, of course. :-)
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Dnia 05-01-2008, So o godzinie 20:53 +0100, David Nielsen pisze:
Em Sáb, 2008-01-05 às 20:21 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek escreveu:
Firefox 3 had nice interface to add exceptions without opening
Preferences. It was changed some time ago and now Firefox tells open
* actually the fedora icon looks slightly blurry too - it looks like it
is not aligned to the pixel grid.
- http://www.stephenbrandt.com/tango-icons/fedora/ -open a bug about this?
That's really good idea, because GNOME, default Fedora's environment
uses Tangoish style be default. Current
I love vectors, but without gradients.
Kubuntu Breezy Badger had nice SVG example - world map with its logo. Very
nice, but I can't find the links.
2007/12/31, Brandon Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Andrew,
That idea is really good and will look really sharp.
I think perhaps white lettering would
[[ * actually the fedora icon looks slightly blurry too - it looks like it
is not aligned to the pixel grid.
- http://www.stephenbrandt.com/tango-icons/fedora/ -open a bug about this?
]]
I want it to be official ICON in all places. Only icon, fedora-logo-icon in
hicolor, because this style is
Fedora could only style Thunderbird's background on chrome:/// homepage.
It would look nice if it would be styled.
2007/12/31, Andreas Nilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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Hi All,
I was just toying around with the Splash![1] addon for
at the buttons on the
page. Should have clarified.
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
You're blind... Google.com has native widgets!
Dnia 25-12-2007, wto o godzinie 18:38 -0600, Michael Beckwith pisze:
Why should I do a google search for something you're arguing for? I
don't have a problem
But it doesn't change the fact. Form styling (not the alignment, the
appearance css part) MUST be removed or changed to non-rectangular
(rectangles were nice in win9x epoch).
Dnia 24-12-2007, pon o godzinie 23:53 +, Kevin Kofler pisze:
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek jakub.rusinek at gmail.com writes
Of course higher size = more details, but remember - icon must be
readable at all.
Dnia 24-12-2007, pon o godzinie 16:33 -0800, Mark pisze:
2007/12/24, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Maybe they're too dark but icons are too small to show photo-realistic
things. Icons should be only
will reconsider my arguements.
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
Exactly that widgets should not be styled.
Dnia 25-12-2007, wto o godzinie 12:06 -0600, Michael Beckwith pisze:
Well, you can do the appealing to the people that be that dictate the
default appearance of any sort of basic form
with the form change, contact the right mailing list and
appeal your case to them.
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
You don't understand. Rectangular widgets, non-native are ugly and
they're making websites looking more out-of-the-box, what's wrong.
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I don't know who made CSS for fpo, but he should know, that native
widgets look better than rectangular ugly ones...
Could it be that your browser sucks? ;-) Konqueror is showing me only native
form widgets on fedoraproject.org
Luya, you did it :) !
2007/12/23, Luya Tshimbalanga [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek a écrit :
It's better, but in size we can't get more readable :( .
Removed the trace of gradient around border for extra small size.
The look should be clearer.
Luya
Not bad.
PS: In the name of cooperation I'll be not saying anything about
perspective, color palette, etc.
2007/12/23, Luya Tshimbalanga [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Martin Sourada a écrit :
Hi,
I think this one looks more like full featured camera (meaning reflex
camera [1]) - not just some
Nice.
2007/12/22, Luya Tshimbalanga [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I have took the time to design a set of camera-photo icons for Echo.
They are based on the more recent model of digital camera (Nikon in this
case). I chose that particular model because of simplicity. It may look
a bit darker than
Hi,
I don't know who made CSS for fpo, but he should know, that native
widgets look better than rectangular ugly ones...
Especially when Firefox 3 is gonna arrive very quickly.
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I don't like turqoise, but you've selected it.
Even it's turqoise, I like your arrows.
Dnia 22-12-2007, sob o godzinie 13:58 +0100, Martin Sourada pisze:
On Sat, 2007-12-22 at 11:58 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
They're great.
Good you like them :) I attach the rest (only
Didn't I wrote is Bluecurve? I only want you to see how hardcoded and
ugly icons look in beautiful environment.
Dnia 20-12-2007, czw o godzinie 14:19 -0800, Luya Tshimbalanga pisze:
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek a écrit :
Hi,
I want to show [1] you how strange would look GNOME if some Echo icons
You're blind if you don't see Echo uglyness...
Dnia 20-12-2007, czw o godzinie 18:46 -0500, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
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On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 23:11 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
Hi,
Stop. If you have specific problems then bring those up. If you're just
going to use the mailing
will be native for Linux distributions.
Luya
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I still think Nodoka is great, and Echo should be Tango! styled icon
theme... Echo current icon shapes, but in Tango! style - that would kick
ass.
Dnia 20-12-2007, czw o godzinie 13:29 +0100, Martin Sourada pisze:
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Spinner, search
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Ok, but if I'll see any Echo icon hardcoded in app like Pup you'll have
war...
Dnia 20-12-2007, czw o godzinie 10:39 -0500, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
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I still think...Echo should be Tango! styled icon
theme... Echo current
Thursday 20 of December 2007 21:55:06 Luya Tshimbalanga napisał(a):
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek a écrit :
Ugly...
I'm attaching comparison with Foxtrot. Compare it yourself...
Dnia 19-12-2007, śro o godzinie 23:06 -0800, Luya Tshimbalanga pisze:
Just made a 22x22 go-down arrow perspectives
Hi,
I want to show [1] you how strange would look GNOME if some Echo icons would
be hardcoded. In screenshot some bluecurve are shown.
1| http://img.wklej.org/images/32629tangoification.png
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Hi,
I'm thinking now about F9 background, and I think that striped
background is best choice for professional look.
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