Re: F10Themes/Binary

2008-05-05 Thread Laith Juwaidah
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Charlie Brej [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've put up a theme proposal called Binary. The concept is a stream of I
 and O symbols arranged into some mathematical pattern.

 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Binary

 All the examples are generated using the perl script (attached to the
 page). If you have any ideas of shapes/patterns then please do tell me as it
 would only take me a couple of minutes to change the code to generate the
 desired effect.

I like grid1 and spiral100, great work!



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Re: Round 1

2008-01-11 Thread Laith Juwaidah
I have an idea, since we don't want the code to be put on the screen because 
that'll comprimise the user's privacy, and all, why don't we create a small 
pattern that'll change the background depending on the code, well, parts of 
the code.
I don't know how the code looks like but I'll just assume it's something like 
this: 67c1e19532a4c47461486a5d8ad3ac74 (which is Fedora 9's md5sum :D
In this case we can create an algorithm that does the following (it's just an 
example):
1. Takes the first 3 digits as a HEX number and % it by 360 and then rotate 
the shape that many degrees.
2. Take the fourth and the fivth digits and increase the R by the amount of 
the fourth digit if the fifth digit % 2 is positive.
3. Take the sixth and the seventh digits and do the same for G.
4. Take the eighth and the ninth digits and do the same for B.

etc...
This way, the usrer's privacy won't be comprimised, and we can still brag 
about giving the users different backgrounds, which is somethig that no other 
distro have done (just a guess).

What do you think?

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Re: Round 1

2008-01-10 Thread Laith Juwaidah
On Jan 10, 2008 1:53 PM, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gerold wrote:
 
  I'm not really sure to be here on the correct list but I like to tell
  you something personal :-)

 You give feed-back about one of the proposals, so you are at least
 partly on-topic.

  I took a look at the below listed round1 URLs and I personally tiked
 the
  9TO9 most ...
  and I have also a (in my eyes) fantastic idea but also not sure than
  somebody can realize my thoughts.
 
  When you'll install a new system, you'll get a unique (smolt-system)
  id-number; maybe it is possible that that id-nummer is the code shown
 at
  your dsktop?!
 
  So everybody has his own unique Desktop wallpaper/theme and also maybe
  with the changing color as in F8???

 Wow! That would be indeed cool, to have your own code somewhere (it may
 be even a bar code).
 And I think I got an idea about the implementation: we can have a SVG as
 background. Is easy to modify that SVG file, is XML, but you can do a
 test search and replace (with sed).So I believe it can be done (but I
 suspect the current Nautilus won't notice the SVG update on the fly).

I like this idea too...

About the implementation, we won't need to change the code every period of
time, it'll be set only once when the system is first installed... Probably
changed in the four pictures (assuming the color will change too), then
exported to png and those pngs will be used just like they used to in F8.



  Just my thoughts and ideas and also not really sure to post correct
 here.
  Feel free to post it in the correct ML

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Re: Round 1

2008-01-10 Thread Laith Juwaidah
On Thursday 10 January 2008 15:45:51 Nicu Buculei wrote:
 Laith Juwaidah wrote:
  Gerold wrote:
I took a look at the below listed round1 URLs and I personally
 
  tiked the
 
9TO9 most ...
and I have also a (in my eyes) fantastic idea but also not sure
than somebody can realize my thoughts.
   
When you'll install a new system, you'll get a unique
(smolt-system) id-number; maybe it is possible that that id-nummer
is the code
 
  shown at
 
your dsktop?!
   
So everybody has his own unique Desktop wallpaper/theme and
 
  also maybe
 
  About the implementation, we won't need to change the code every period
  of time, it'll be set only once when the system is first installed...
  Probably changed in the four pictures (assuming the color will change
  too), then exported to png and those pngs will be used just like they
  used to in F8.

 PNG or SVG, this is an implementation detail, the important part would
 be to get traction from the desktop guys to accept such a change.

 And as implementation details, I feel working with PNGs is more
 complicated: you will need installed something like ImageMagik (which is
 not available by default in a desktop install) to be able to generate
 the image PNG and do the composition, with SVG is just a text search and
 replace.

Sorry :D I just thought that SVGs can't be used as backgrounds, my bad.

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Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork

2008-01-09 Thread Laith Juwaidah
On Wednesday 09 January 2008 21:01:56 Martin Sourada wrote:
 On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 17:49 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote:
  Steven Garrity wrote:
  Please look these two screenshots:
  http://bayimg.com/MAIAIaaBL
  http://bayimg.com/MAiagaABL
 
  One is FC6 and other is F8.
 
  Can you make the difference. The differences are subtle, too subtle and
  too bland IMHO. I would love to see Fedora 9 get the gtk theme it
  deserves.
 
  So slowing down design really sound bad to me.
 
  Valent.

 I saw these two quite long quite a long ago and you were told, that the
 difference is obvious, though subtle.

 As for the Fedora 9 gtk theme. So far this [1] seems what will be in
 Fedora 9, although there is still room for improvement. But why don't
 you come up with something awesome yourself? We are all doing our best
 while you seem to just rant about how things would be better.
Cool, I like what we have now, I think that a rounded aqua would be awesome :)


 Thanks,
 Martin

 References:
 [1] https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/wiki/Screenshots



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Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork

2008-01-01 Thread Laith Juwaidah
On Wednesday 02 January 2008 00:06:07 Steven Garrity wrote:
 John Baer wrote:
  Does it make sense to change the theme every other release cycle and
  use the off cycle to improve or tweak the current theme?

 This is a good point - it would be nice to see a somewhat common theme
 getting more and more polished with each release. More of an evolution
 than a complete redesign each time. That said, the last few themes have
 been a bit like this.

 Things that are easier to change, like the splash screens and wallpaper
 can change more frequently and dramatically. Things that are more
 challenging to redesign well, like Gtk and Metacity themes evolve more
 slowly.

 This reminds me of the 6 layers of buildings from Stewart Brand's
 classic book, How Buildings Learn:
 http://www.peterme.com/archives/0323.html

 I would like to see a general visual theme for Fedora that can slowly
 evolve and improve with each release, but still have enough wiggle-room
 for each release to feel new and exciting.

 I proposed a seasonal Spring/Fall theme set to coincide with the
 time-based release schedule of Fedora back in November. I've been trying
 to create a page for it on the wiki, but I'm having trouble getting my
 account created (probably my own fault).

 Quoting myself:
  As the Fedora release schedule is now about as reliable as the coming
  of spring and fall, it occurred to me that spring and fall might
  serve as appropriate visual themes for alternating releases.
 
  Both spring and fall (aka autumn) are nice natural visual
  metaphors that have recognizable and (potentially) beautiful color
  schemes associated with them. They are also both natural themes,
  which can work well for desktop themes.
 
  Perhaps we could adopt a spring visual theme for the odd-numbered
  releases that fall in the spring, and a fall visual theme for the
  even-numbered releases that fall in the, well, fall.
Could it also be that the colors match the season (green for spring releases 
and yellow/orange for fall ones?)?

 
  This would also provide a way to have a strong visual change between
  releases, but still build on a larger theme that could grow more
  refined over multiple releases.

 https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2007-November/msg00099.html

 A theme like this would allow a common thread for all Fedora release
 visuals, but also a nice back-and-forth change for each release.

 Cheers,
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Re: [F9 theme proposal] (Also Freedom :)) Round 1

2007-12-30 Thread Laith Juwaidah
I'm not being mean or anything, but I don't think having war stuff in the 
wallpaper is a good idea, I don't wanna see war whenever I open my computer.
Honestly, I'll change the theme if that is actually the default for F9.

Sorry for being rude, but I really hate war! I'm from Iraq if that helps :D

Cheers! :)
On Monday 31 December 2007 01:33:43 Valent Turkovic wrote:
 Hi,
 I could't give this another name, because it just screams freedom
 and freedom already exists but it is a different theme (or it is not)
 and involves chains.

 Please look at this picture:
 http://www.faith47.com/images/Slice_03_03.gif

 It is from artists that work on www.dynebolic.org linux distro.

 I'm not an artist but a photographer and art critic and I have an eye
 for combining things. I can see fedora logo in the hands of that
 person and it would make a great wallpaper.

 The idea is this:
 In the background (bw looks great but also pale fedora colors would
 work) there are all the symbols and tools for taking away freedom and
 in the center you see fedora logo that represents freedom in color as
 it overcomes all that in background.

 Any comments?

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Re: My word for F9

2007-12-19 Thread Laith Juwaidah
On Tuesday 18 December 2007 19:39:44 Mola Pahnadayan wrote:
 Hi :) Some idea for Art work of Fedora 9 proposal

 1.Fedora - electric sphere
I really really really like Electric sphere!!!
 2. Fedora - Podr
 3. Fedora - Fruits
 4. Fedora - lime
 5.Fedora - Angel fish
 6. Fedora - Orange juice

 http://www.molaora.com/data/files/thumb/lime_kiwi_fedora.png

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Re: Background idea

2007-12-17 Thread Laith Juwaidah
If you're talking about backgrounds like Max OS's or F8's or SuSE's then I'm 
with you, this kind of background suits most people!

On Monday 17 December 2007 17:15:47 Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
 I'm just wondering about image style. I have no concretes.

 Am Montag, den 17.12.2007, 14:53 +0200 schrieb Nicu Buculei:
  Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
   I'm thinking now about F9 background, and I think that striped
   background is best choice for professional look.
 
  Which striped background?



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Re: GDM Idea

2007-12-15 Thread Laith Juwaidah
On Sunday 16 December 2007 01:11:15 Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm coming with GDM-styling idea. SUSE said some words about it [1]

 I think we should provide two GDM themes:

 * userlist only (default)
 * entry (available as option)

 Also, I think we should change our GDM style to have more transparency
 (less opacity : ).

 Something looking like one of their (SUSE's) mockups [1] or SLiM'
 default theme [2] would be very nice :) .

 Say what you think. Bye.




  1| http://en.opensuse.org/Branding_Overview:os10.3:GDM
  2| http://slim.berlios.de/images/slim01.jpg

+1

I really like SuSE's menu-based login screen

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Re: Link for official F9 theme proposal

2007-12-12 Thread Laith Juwaidah
On Wednesday 12 December 2007 10:45:11 Michael Beckwith wrote:
 The problem with symbols like NYC or the Statue of Liberty is that they
 don't necessarily mean the same thing to everyone. Pidgeon is more
 likely, but someone would have to research what other cultures think as
 well.

 Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
  Freedom? I think best symbol of freedom is pidgeon or statue of liberty
  (or something like that).
 
  Maybe an city, like New York, the liberty statue and a pidgeon flying
  over :] ?
 
  Dnia 11-12-2007, wto o godzinie 22:45 -0600, Michael Beckwith pisze:
  Updated the theme page with two more visual ideas.
 
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Freedom
 
 
  
 
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Isn't pidgeon more of a peace symbol than freedom?

And the thing is: Are users ready for 3D computer generated graphics?

Maybe a scene from nature with a huge space can mean freedom too, and it is 
more comon, not that I suggest this[1] (the downloads have reached 80,000+), 
but something similar, well, a morning version would be great :P

Check out the highest rated wallpaper at kde-look.org[2], I didn't go to the 
second page, but the top 15 (the first page) are all natural scenes, that 
means that people like this kind of wallpapers

Am I over-analyzing things? :D

[1] http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/NIGHT?content=25331
[2] 
http://kde-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=highpage=0xcontentmode=1x2x3x4x5x6x7x29x71x72x73
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Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme

2007-12-11 Thread Laith Juwaidah
On Wednesday 12 December 2007 01:35:52 Jonathan Roberts wrote:
 On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 22:22 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
  Sure.
 
  PS: It's still stupid to me...

 This is why we don't like non-free/patent-encumbered software!
I know this is way off topic, but I really wanna know, do you, opensource fans 
(not that I'm not), not use mp3? Is your music collection in ogg format? And 
to make it completely off topic, any good converters? Hahaha, just kidding :D

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Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme

2007-12-11 Thread Laith Juwaidah
On Wednesday 12 December 2007 02:40:13 Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
 Kidding? I'm not.
 mp3 → ogg is only getting quality lower and lower.
 mp3 is popular on the web, sorry.
 Also, my player plays mp3 and wma (mp3 is better - non-ms).

 EOT?
Yes :)

 Dnia 12-12-2007, śro o godzinie 01:55 +0400, Laith Juwaidah pisze:
  On Wednesday 12 December 2007 01:35:52 Jonathan Roberts wrote:
   On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 22:22 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
Sure.
   
PS: It's still stupid to me...
  
   This is why we don't like non-free/patent-encumbered software!
 
  I know this is way off topic, but I really wanna know, do you, opensource
  fans (not that I'm not), not use mp3? Is your music collection in ogg
  format? And to make it completely off topic, any good converters? Hahaha,
  just kidding :D
 
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Re: KDE: Default Style

2007-12-03 Thread Laith Juwaidah
On Monday 03 December 2007 13:22:33 Mark wrote:
 2007/12/2, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Hi,
 
  As I use KDE one/two years ago, I know this environment quite good.
 
  When I was using it, I've found nice alternative for Plastik: Lipstik.
 
  Now it's being scratch-built in Koji [1].
 
  My proposal is to make Lipstik default style for KDE3 in F9 (if KDE4
  will not replace KDE3 in F9 : ).

 I would make gnome and kde look identical (in skin).
 Lipstik looks nice to.

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-1

I don't think they should be identical. Let's face it! KDE has better looks 
than GNOME, and that was one of the reasons why I am using KDE, now that KDE4 
is on the way, it will have even more power, and I really don't think we should 
take that away from KDE users just because GNOME can't do that!

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Re: Nodoka 0.2 for KDE

2007-11-29 Thread Laith Juwaidah
On Thursday 29 November 2007 18:43:33 Mark wrote:
 Hi,

 are you gonna make one for KDE 4 as well? ^_^

 2007/11/21, Laith Juwaidah [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Hi,
 
  I just uploaded it to my fedorapeople space[1].
 
  I'll upload it to git soon!
 
  Oh, and sorry about the name... I just remember that it's called
  ndoka-kwin-theme after I uploaded this :D
 
  Have fun and give feedbacks :)
 
  Cheers!
 
  [1]
  http://ljuwaida.fedorapeople.org/Artwork/Nodoka/KDE/WindowDecoration/Nodo
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That you should ask Kevin Kofler, he said that he's going to work on porting 
DeKorator to KDE4, once he does that you can use the theme on KDE4, but, 
there's nothing to be done from my part :)

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Re: start the process for F9 theming?

2007-11-28 Thread Laith Juwaidah
On Wednesday 28 November 2007 14:22:37 Nicu Buculei wrote:
 María Leandro wrote:
  I think that I understand a different thing:
 
  I'm working into a Fedora wallpaper that should work for F9, and some of
  my ideas are to making it alive :D (If the people was happy with the
  infinity giving us the time... we could make the same transition of
  images on the desktop but using something different as a pattern).

 I wanted to bring a talk (in a different thread) about dynamic versus
 static backgrounds and what we are aiming for in F9, but if you said
 about it, here is a good place to talk.

 The dynamic background was a popular feature, well received in the
 reviews, a step forward. But on the other hand it may limit the design
 options: it work very well for an abstract theme like Infinity, but it
 won't work for something elaborated like FlyingHigh and it would be hard
 (but not impossible) for something like DNA.
 So there are ups and downs.

  The window style... Can we ad some textures to menu bar? (Gnome and KDE)
  like a 3D sensation?  I now that we could make something on inkscape
  looking like a pipe and instead see the things up the bar this COULD BE
  SEEN as inside... (but I'm not shure that if this is possible just
  saying what I have in mind to develop for F9 AS PERSONAL WORK)

 Like http://art.gnome.org/themes/metacity/155 ? Yes, it should be
 possible to use pixmaps engines, but they are usually slower and consume
 more resources (and in my personal opinion look busy).

  Menu, window... everithing we CAN make a new window style like
  3D why don't we go for it?

 Why? Because nobody convinced us this is the best thing. The best way
 would be for you, I think, to create a mockup, post it here and impress
 everybody.

  Yes... Here on LatinAmerica (Venezuela) the patents issue is really big,
  so (kind'a proposition) why don't we re-make a new style concept on
  the desktop for Fedora 9? It could be the start for a longer way.

 The same thing: post a mockup and get some enthusiastic followers. If it
 is something complex it may take more than one release cycle.

Wow! A lot as been going on here :)

María, I like your proposals (3D, dynamic backgrounds, etc), I've been 
thinking about the samething, but I didn't say anything because I thought 
that it'd be stupid and not welcome.

I would like to talk to you about this, and maybe we can let the rest know 
about what we reach as a conclusion :)

Do you use GTalk? I'll add you up!

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Re: Falco Theme

2007-11-25 Thread Laith Juwaidah
On Sunday 25 November 2007 21:42:13 Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
 Plastik... Today I'll send Review Request for Lipstik. When it's ready,
 you can use it... And change color scheme. Default Plastik is so ugly.

 Dnia 25-11-2007, nie o godzinie 20:19 +0400, Laith Juwaidah pisze:
  Say whatevery you want, but I am not obsessed with the word Falco, it's
  just that I couldn't think of any other name for the theme.
 
  I didn't actually create this theme, I just got it from two components
  from kde-look.org (A background called Light, and a DeKorator theme
  called Crystal Cursive :-/).
 
  It's a KDE theme, but it's not so hard to port to gnome, it's simple...
 
  You can find a screenshot of it here [1].
 
  Your opinions please :)
 
  Cheers!
 
  [1] http://ljuwaida.fedorapeople.org/Artwork/Falco/Falco.png
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I was talking about the background and the windeco :)
But I like lipstik, I might use that.. and the color theme, i used infinity's 
color theme, for now.. I'll work on it :)

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Re: F9 Name Proposal

2007-11-23 Thread Laith Juwaidah
On Friday 23 November 2007 15:32:01 Marek Mahut wrote:
 Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
  Simply - Owl, Nightbird, Humming or Bird :) .

 Why always choose sense-less names? :) I'm wondering why not take a name
 of person to show their merits (from scientifics to lobbists).

Fedora 9 codename Copernic
   sounds great to me :)

 This would have more culture and human feeling that moonshine or
 werewolf.

Read the bases on which a name should be chosen here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Names

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Nodoka 0.2 for KDE

2007-11-21 Thread Laith Juwaidah
Hi,

I just uploaded it to my fedorapeople space[1].

I'll upload it to git soon!

Oh, and sorry about the name... I just remember that it's called
ndoka-kwin-theme after I uploaded this :D

Have fun and give feedbacks :)

Cheers!

[1]
http://ljuwaida.fedorapeople.org/Artwork/Nodoka/KDE/WindowDecoration/NodokaWindowDecorationKDE-0.2.tar.gz
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Re: Infinity 24 for KDE

2007-11-15 Thread Laith Juwaidah
On Thursday 15 November 2007 08:12:11 Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 Rex Dieter wrote:
  Laith Juwaidah wrote:
  I made a small --literally-- script that does that (change the
  background), it is to be used with KDE's advanced desktop options and
  the 24 pictures that can be found here[1].
 
  The script itself can be found on my fedorapeople[2].
  [2] http://ljuwaida.fedorapeople.org/Artwork/Infinity/KDE/Wallpaper
 
  Can you provide (step-by-step) instructions on how to set this up?  Where
  to download Wallpapers, how to configure the KDE desktop, etc.?

 Better yet, can we push this functionality in as an update so that KDE
 by default in Fedora 8 does this?

 Rahul

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I don't know, people's comps might be slow (it takes some time to re-size the 
picture once an hour (a few secs on my machine, but it can be longer on 
slower ones)), people may not want to use Fedora's background, etc...

However, we can make a package of the script and the pictures but not activate 
them by default.

Here are the steps:
1. Create a new folder and call it Infinity.
2. Download all the pictures in 
http://people.redhat.com/duffy/artwork/infinity-24/ to that folder (they 
should be 24 png files).
3. Download the script from 
http://ljuwaida.fedorapeople.org/Artwork/Infinity/KDE/Wallpaper/infinity and 
put it in the same folder.
4. If you want to install it for yourself only then copy the folder you 
created to ~/.kde/share/wallpapers (if it doesn't exist, create it), if you 
want to install it for all the users, then copy it to /usr/share/wallpapers 
instead, but you have to be the root.
5. To change your background, right click on your desktop and click Configure 
Desktop, click on No Picture, then click on Advanced Options.
6. In the window that opens, click on add.
7. In the name field, enter Infinity, in the command field enter 
~/.kde/share/wallpapers/Infinity/infinity %x %y %f , 
or /user/share/wallpapers/Infinity/infinity %x %y %f , depending on where you 
installed it.
8. Put the same line in Preview cmd, and put 
~/.kde/share/wallpapers/Infinity/infinity 
or /user/share/wallpapers/Infinity/infinity in Executable, and set the 
Refresh time to 60 min.
9. Click on OK, OK, then OK.

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Infinity 24 for KDE

2007-11-14 Thread Laith Juwaidah
I made a small --literally-- script that does that (change the background), it 
is to be used with KDE's advanced desktop options and the 24 pictures that 
can be found here[1].

The script itself can be found on my fedorapeople[2].

Cheers!

[1] http://people.redhat.com/duffy/artwork/infinity-24/
[2] http://ljuwaida.fedorapeople.org/Artwork/Infinity/KDE/Wallpaper
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Re: F9 Name Proposal

2007-11-13 Thread Laith Juwaidah
On Tuesday 13 November 2007 10:01:03 Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
 +1 for Galaxy

 Dnia 12-11-2007, pon o godzinie 20:50 -0300, Sven von Brand Laredo

 pisze:
  Hisham Abdel-Magid wrote:
   how about AngelWings ? (i am still in favour with reaching higher
   then reaching to infinity styles) ..
 
  Going for the same flavour, how about something space like, Shuttle or
  SpaceShip or Galaxy.
 
  Greetings

Finally! Something different :P
Have you read Michael Beckwith's post titled F9 theming [1]?
It suggests that the theme should represent freedom (since the current theme 
is Infinity)...
So I thought of Naming F9 based on that too... I did some research on the 
internet, and I found this [2].
But, since we just can't call it Bald Eagle, I looked on wikipedia [3].
In the synonyms, there's a name in Latin that goes back to 1766, which 
is Falco leucocephalus, but since that is too long, I thought that calling 
it Falco is just right! It'll be an Eagle :)
What do you think?

[1] 
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2007-November/msg00106.html
[2] http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060904174930AAS81GP
[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bald_eagle
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Re: F9 Name Proposal

2007-11-13 Thread Laith Juwaidah
On Tuesday 13 November 2007 21:32:15 Jeff Spaleta wrote:
 On Nov 12, 2007 10:58 PM, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
   Simply - Owl, Nightbird, Humming or Bird :) .
 
  I absolutely hate to be that guy but... the name decision is not ours
  (Art Team) to make and traditionally now is also too early for it.

 Is it too early? I think there are proposed changes for the
 development process which would put the naming process earlier in
 part to get the art team time to have the option to build a theme
 associated with the codename.

 Regardless of when it happens, there are established rules for the
 name game, which I assume people in this thread are not aware of.
 Names between releases must relate.  Release N+1 must be named such
 that releaser N+1 relates to N, such that releases N+1 and N-1 are not
 similarly related.  So we can for example just keep picking city names
 or flower names over and over again.

 The rules for F9 as I understand them are:
 The relationship that connects Moonshine and Werewolf cannot be re-used.
 The F9 name and werewolf must share are both are relationship.
 The F9 name and moonshine must not share a both are relationship
 You also should provide an obvious next relationship that can be used
 to connect the name to F9 to F10

 The Unicorn example I provided follows the name game rules. I stated
 the N+1 to N relationship explicitly.  Both a unicorn and a werewolf
 are mythical creatures whereas moonshine is not.
 I also hinted at the next relationship that can be used to move beyond
 unicorn.  Unicorn was the mascot for my high school, so for F10 you
 could move from unicorn to any high school mascot that was not a
 mystical creature. Though that's actually not a good out. A better out
 would be Tom Cruise movie co-stars (a unicorn was in the movie
 Legend).

 Names like galaxy or night bird need to be given in the context of
 the N+1 and  N  are a something,  but N+1 and N-1 are not a
 something rule.  The naming isn't  random, but its constrained by how
 clever we are coming up with relationships between the names.

 -jef

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Jupiter? That's a fictional eagle :) And, we can use some other planet's name 
for F10 :)

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Re: F9 Name Proposal

2007-11-12 Thread Laith Juwaidah
On Monday 12 November 2007 23:58:45 Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
 Myths... Maybe Athena, Mars, Zeus/Dzeus or others?
 Please, don't...

 Dnia 12-11-2007, pon o godzinie 10:54 -0900, Jeff Spaleta pisze:
  Unicorn, like a werewolf is a mythical creature.
 
  -jefand the best high school sports mascot everspaleta
 
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Why does it have to be Mozila-applications-like names?
ThunderBird! FireFox! GreaseMonkey! FlyingCow! SingingDog! BarkingDove! 
GlowingBull! ThinkingMouse! SqueakingRabbit! HissingKangaroo! :P
I admit that these names are funny and cool, but... OK! How about something 
that is actually happening? It's name should be inspired by what's happening, 
or what to expect from it, for example, if we're expecting F9 to 
revolutionize the way we deal with comps :-/ It should be 
called Revolution...

But, to go with the flow, do you guys like the name Mocking Bird? I don't 
know what that bird is, but I like a song called the mocking bird :)

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Fwd: Nodoka Window Decoration for KDE

2007-11-04 Thread Laith Juwaidah
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Hi,

I thought I sent this message a few days ago, but when I checked in the
mailing list's archives, I didn't find it there, so, here it is again.

I created a Nodoka Window Decoration for KDE, you can see a screen shot of
it [1]here.

I put it on my fedorapeople account [2], and on my blog [3], but since
they're both new, I don't think anybody will notice them.

So, I decided to subscribe to the mailing list and inform you guys.

You can find the package here [4], just extract it, and you'll find a file
called installation.txt that has the instruction.

Cheers!

[1]
http://ljuwaida.fedorapeople.org/Artwork/Nodoka/KDE/WindowDecoration/NodokaWindowDecorationKDE.png
[2] http://ljuwaida.fedorapeople.org
[3] http://ljuwaidah.blogspot.com
[4]
http://ljuwaida.fedorapeople.org/Artwork/Nodoka/KDE/WindowDecoration/NodokaWindowDecorationKDE.tar.gz
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Re: Fwd: Nodoka Window Decoration for KDE

2007-11-04 Thread Laith Juwaidah
I can fix the gerying out thing, but I'm quite sure that the height is
exactly the same as that of the original theme, well, at least that's how it
looked in the screen shot on Nodoka's wiki page.

It would be very helpful if you provide me with a screen shot that includes
two open windows, that'll help me solve both problems, preferably with the
mouse over one of the buttons, 'cause I'm not quite sure of the hover
effect.

Thanks a lot for correcting me :)

On 11/4/07, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 There are two issues.

 1) Too little titlebar height.

 2) Inactive window titlebar should be grayed out.

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Re: Fwd: Nodoka Window Decoration for KDE

2007-11-04 Thread Laith Juwaidah
Humm...

That wasn't as helpful as I expected it to be...

I can't use that to create this theme 'cause it is partially transparent...

I know the hover and click effects work fine, the inactive title bar grays
out now, however, it becomes a bit darker than the original theme.

I don't know how I can increase the height... Are you using Beryl or Compiz?
Try disabling that, that might help remove the shadows and the transparency,
that's when I can use those screen shots to create my theme :P

Thanks again :)

On 11/4/07, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 Two windows, few effects.

 1) Normal

 2) Active window button hover

 3) Inactive window button hover

 4) Active window button pressed (pressing button in inactive window
 causes window focus on inactive window)



 1| http://img.wklej.org/images/87044nod.png
 2| http://img.wklej.org/images/36619nodhovact.png
 3| http://img.wklej.org/images/74777nodhovinact.png
 4| http://img.wklej.org/images/23856nodpress.png

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Re: Fwd: Nodoka Window Decoration for KDE

2007-11-04 Thread Laith Juwaidah
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I can fix the gerying out thing, but I'm quite sure that the height is
exactly the same as that of the original theme, well, at least that's how it
looked in the screen shot on Nodoka's wiki page.

It would be very helpful if you provide me with a screen shot that includes
two open windows, that'll help me solve both problems, preferably with the
mouse over one of the buttons, 'cause I'm not quite sure of the hover
effect.

Thanks a lot for correcting me :)

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On 11/4/07, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 There are two issues.

 1) Too little titlebar height.

 2) Inactive window titlebar should be grayed out.

 --
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 http://liviopl.jogger.pl/


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