Re: Draft Schedule for F9
All re-factored here: http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-9/f-9-art-tasks.html Yes, I realize these reports aren't that pleasing to the eye, but they generate easier than the pdf i previously posted. If someone so desired I wouldn't turn down CSS help :) Máirín Duffy said the following on 12/26/2007 03:24 PM Pacific Time: Hi John, Thanks for your work on the schedule! Here is all the feedback I can think of: - getting the CD/DVD label and box design artwork ready for the printer took around 3 weeks this go around. Hopefully, since we will have the same printer next time and because we were able to develop a color profile with them for printing, that could probably be 2 weeks for F9. (iow, actually coming up with the design and then preparing the design for the printer are two kind of different tasks) As stab in the dark I made each task 1 week. Should this be different? - there isn't too much room in the schedule for 'bugfixing'. For example, in F8 we went back and added the hostname to the GDM theme because it somehow had been omitted. Since we're pushing to get the artwork into the beta we might get a lot more feedback and "bugs" to address. I guess I don't see too much room in the schedule for that though? I'm not sure what to change. Shall we see what happens and remember to build our experience into the Fedora 10 schedule? - banner creation for marketing having 2 weeks is probably a bit much, 1 week is prolly fine. Changed to 1 week - As Nicu mentioned already, there are a lot of subtasks to the theming process. Here are the subtasks that may be worth noting on the schedule: -- Round 1: - theme proposal wiki page created - theme proposal announcement sent out - 3 conceptual sketches completed added--please advise on correct durations -- Round 2: - theme wallpaper draft completed - vertically long supporting artwork completed - horizontally long supporting artwork completed - square supporting artwork completed added--are these all completed in parallel? -- Round 3: - fullscreen splash for syslinux - square splash for anaconda and firstboot - anaconda horizontal header - firstboot vertical header - fullscreen grub splash - bootup/loading graphics (new rhgb coming for f9?) - fullscreen splash for gdm (new gdm, only wallpaper image needed) - kdm login screen theme - gnome splash screen - kde splash screen - gnome screensaver lock dialog added--are these all completed in parallel? ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Draft Schedule for F9
Hi John, Thanks for your work on the schedule! Here is all the feedback I can think of: - getting the CD/DVD label and box design artwork ready for the printer took around 3 weeks this go around. Hopefully, since we will have the same printer next time and because we were able to develop a color profile with them for printing, that could probably be 2 weeks for F9. (iow, actually coming up with the design and then preparing the design for the printer are two kind of different tasks) - there isn't too much room in the schedule for 'bugfixing'. For example, in F8 we went back and added the hostname to the GDM theme because it somehow had been omitted. Since we're pushing to get the artwork into the beta we might get a lot more feedback and "bugs" to address. I guess I don't see too much room in the schedule for that though? - banner creation for marketing having 2 weeks is probably a bit much, 1 week is prolly fine. - As Nicu mentioned already, there are a lot of subtasks to the theming process. Here are the subtasks that may be worth noting on the schedule: -- Round 1: - theme proposal wiki page created - theme proposal announcement sent out - 3 conceptual sketches completed -- Round 2: - theme wallpaper draft completed - vertically long supporting artwork completed - horizontally long supporting artwork completed - square supporting artwork completed -- Round 3: - fullscreen splash for syslinux - square splash for anaconda and firstboot - anaconda horizontal header - firstboot vertical header - fullscreen grub splash - bootup/loading graphics (new rhgb coming for f9?) - fullscreen splash for gdm (new gdm, only wallpaper image needed) - kdm login screen theme - gnome splash screen - kde splash screen - gnome screensaver lock dialog ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Draft Schedule for F9
John Poelstra wrote: My hunch is there are other important tasks you all do that haven't been reflected yet. Keep sending them my way and I'll keep adding them in. Sure, there are at least two other tasks which are independent from this branch: icon theme and GTK+ theme. But those are mostly tasks of the Desktop team. - Icon theme: at some point the Desktop team will make a choice about the icon theme - stay with Mist, jump to the Echo (which is under development by some people in the Art Team) or choose something else (Tango?); - the same for the GTK+ theme: stay with Nodoka, maintained by the Art Team or jump to something else. There are also some additional tasks which are not clearly defined, like: if the Documentation people need something, they ask and we try to provide. For F8 I think they started to use the Echo icons. But for the desktop artwork, yeah, a task like "round 3", where all the graphics in a set must be made, it can be taken apart in some sub-tasks, but I think we must get more experience in working with them before being able to make an outline. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Draft Schedule for F9
Hello, I have taken a shot at laying out the different tasks the Art Team does... for starters I think it is clear you don't get enough credit for all it takes to get a release out the door and looking nice. draft gantt chart here: http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/wip/f9-art-team-2007-12-21.pdf regular updates will be here: http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-9/ My hunch is there are other important tasks you all do that haven't been reflected yet. Keep sending them my way and I'll keep adding them in. My hope is that we can look at this schedule not as some "bogus project management hand waving", but instead as a tool to help us and others to understand: o what tasks need to get done o how long it takes to do them o dependencies on other teams to finish on time This could be useful for new volunteers looking for something to work on or for the naysayer that says "that shouldn't take very long" :) Another added bonus is that when it comes to planning F10 all we have to do is tweak some of the start dates and schedule and task list creates itself. John ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
