Re: Form widgets on fpo website

2007-12-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rogue roguexz at gmail.com writes: Jakub, you are comparing how the widget looks in Firefox 3 alone. What about other browsers? What if the native widgets in those other browsers look terrible? The main 2 browser engines in Fedora are: * Gecko - for everything using this, the widgets will look

Re: Form widgets on fpo website

2007-12-28 Thread Rogue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: Firefox3 provides beautiful native GTK widgets, so we shouldn't provide CSS for them. The idea of CSS styling of the widgets is to ensure that the widgets look the same across different browsers. Jakub, you are

Re: Form widgets on fpo website

2007-12-26 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2007-12-26 at 01:38 +0100, Michael Beckwith wrote: Why should I do a google search for something you're arguing for? I don't have a problem with what I'm seeing when I visit the page. Just for the sake of not arguing, I did do a google search for both native widgets and didn't find

Re: Form widgets on fpo website

2007-12-26 Thread Michael Beckwith
I'm apparently blind, you're unclear with what you say. From a personal standpoint, when someone lists some terms with any reference to google, they mean to do searching, not look at the buttons on the page. Should have clarified. Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: You're blind... Google.com has

Re: Form widgets on fpo website

2007-12-26 Thread Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek
Well, Firefox != 3 sucks a little bit. Dnia 26-12-2007, śro o godzinie 12:47 -0600, Michael Beckwith pisze: I'm apparently blind, you're unclear with what you say. From a personal standpoint, when someone lists some terms with any reference to google, they mean to do searching, not look at the

Re: Form widgets on fpo website

2007-12-25 Thread Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek
But it doesn't change the fact. Form styling (not the alignment, the appearance css part) MUST be removed or changed to non-rectangular (rectangles were nice in win9x epoch). Dnia 24-12-2007, pon o godzinie 23:53 +, Kevin Kofler pisze: Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek jakub.rusinek at gmail.com writes:

Re: Form widgets on fpo website

2007-12-25 Thread Michael Beckwith
Well, you can do the appealing to the people that be that dictate the default appearance of any sort of basic form appearance for forms. It's nothing that the art or the website team have anything to do with. Until you can appeal to the people that set this, you can either use a browser that

Re: Form widgets on fpo website

2007-12-25 Thread Michael Beckwith
I see nothing wrong with styling it for those who have support for it. It's a web accessability thing. Ability to style it and see a nice looking form, or if your browser doesn't support it, then it still gets form controls with the universal default which still allows it to be useable. If

Re: Form widgets on fpo website

2007-12-25 Thread Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek
You don't understand. Rectangular widgets, non-native are ugly and they're making websites looking more out-of-the-box, what's wrong. Dnia 25-12-2007, wto o godzinie 12:23 -0600, Michael Beckwith pisze: I see nothing wrong with styling it for those who have support for it. It's a web

Re: Form widgets on fpo website

2007-12-25 Thread Michael Beckwith
FP.org is not a Web 2.0centric website. The most important thing for it to do is present information about Fedora. If you really want to have things with the form change, contact the right mailing list and appeal your case to them. Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: You don't understand.

Re: Form widgets on fpo website

2007-12-25 Thread Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek
What styling form has to do with Web2.0? What you're talking about, man?! Dnia 25-12-2007, wto o godzinie 13:16 -0600, Michael Beckwith pisze: FP.org is not a Web 2.0centric website. The most important thing for it to do is present information about Fedora. If you really want to have things

Re: Form widgets on fpo website

2007-12-25 Thread Michael Beckwith
Actually, Jakub, could you do me a favor and link to a page or image of the type of form styling you would like to see? ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list

Re: Form widgets on fpo website

2007-12-25 Thread Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek
Google.com - native widgets. Dnia 25-12-2007, wto o godzinie 15:58 -0600, Michael Beckwith pisze: Actually, Jakub, could you do me a favor and link to a page or image of the type of form styling you would like to see? ___ Fedora-art-list mailing

Re: Form widgets on fpo website

2007-12-25 Thread Michael Beckwith
Why should I do a google search for something you're arguing for? I don't have a problem with what I'm seeing when I visit the page. Just for the sake of not arguing, I did do a google search for both native widgets and didn't find any sort of examples of what I was asking for. Maybe I'm just

Re: Form widgets on fpo website

2007-12-25 Thread Mike McGrath
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: Hi, I don't know who made CSS for fpo, but he should know, that native widgets look better than rectangular ugly ones... Especially when Firefox 3 is gonna arrive very quickly. FWIW, - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/ShowUs

Re: Form widgets on fpo website

2007-12-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek jakub.rusinek at gmail.com writes: I don't know who made CSS for fpo, but he should know, that native widgets look better than rectangular ugly ones... Could it be that your browser sucks? ;-) Konqueror is showing me only native form widgets on fedoraproject.org.

Re: Form widgets on fpo website

2007-12-24 Thread Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek
Mine browser doesn't suck, silly. Konqueror doesn't support styled forms. Run Firefox 2 and then Firefox 3. FF2 - ugly non-gtk widgets on websites. FF3 - beautiful gtk widgets on websites and those rectangular piece of... rectangle. Dnia 24-12-2007, pon o godzinie 23:01 +, Kevin Kofler

Re: Form widgets on fpo website

2007-12-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek jakub.rusinek at gmail.com writes: Konqueror doesn't support styled forms. And I'd say that's a good thing, for the exact reason you describe. I haven't tried the KDE 4 version yet though, they might have fixed it. Kevin Kofler

Form widgets on fpo website

2007-12-23 Thread Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek
Hi, I don't know who made CSS for fpo, but he should know, that native widgets look better than rectangular ugly ones... Especially when Firefox 3 is gonna arrive very quickly. -- ______ Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek/ _|___ __| |___ _ _ __

Re: Form widgets on fpo website

2007-12-23 Thread Michael Beckwith
Concerns like this should go to the fedora-websites-list Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: Hi, I don't know who made CSS for fpo, but he should know, that native widgets look better than rectangular ugly ones... Especially when Firefox 3 is gonna arrive very quickly.