Re: Banner ideas
On 05/05/2009 03:19 PM, Jayme Ayres wrote: 2009/5/5 Nicu Buculei As a minor observation, you forgot one TM near the bubble logo - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines#Vertical_Version_of_the_Logo Sorry (IMO) about TM, is really necessary? :) I know it is a guidelines, but I think now that there is a TM in type, it is really necessary to put in another TM bubble? I am not a trademark expert, but I expect so: all the official versions of the logo have the TM sign in both places. But maybe we will have some more insightful input from Mo or Paul. On the order of the words I understand the concern, but understands that when words are translated the size of each of them then tried to equalize changes significantly as the size of each building in the correct order, to strike a balance and a degree. See the imbalance there is in the correct order of the words: LIBERDADE AMIZADE FUNICONALIDADES INOVAÇÃO I have the same problem in my own language: LIBERTATE PRIETENIE (or rarely used AMICIȚIE) FUNCȚIONALITĂȚI PRIMUL (or ÎNTÂIETATE) ... awfully close, right? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Banner ideas
On 05/05/2009 03:39 PM, María Leandro wrote: Other try: http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-LATAM/pendon3c.png a detailed view of the 4 foundations: http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-LATAM/4fundaciones-relieve.png I like this... I was thinking to suggest some extrusion for the foundation icons but didn't want to sound too demanding. But you are cool enough and did it by yourself. source: http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-LATAM/pendon3c.svg ...still not sure about the way you wrote the url at the bottom, the .org part is hard to read. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Banner ideas
Original Message From: Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 8:37:44 AM Subject: Re: Banner ideas On 05/05/2009 03:19 PM, Jayme Ayres wrote: 2009/5/5 Nicu Buculei As a minor observation, you forgot one TM near the bubble logo - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines#Vertical_Version_of_the_Logo Sorry (IMO) about TM, is really necessary? :) I know it is a guidelines, but I think now that there is a TM in type, it is really necessary to put in another TM bubble? I am not a trademark expert, but I expect so: all the official versions of the logo have the TM sign in both places. But maybe we will have some more insightful input from Mo or Paul. Yeh, it is necessary; both are needed. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Banner ideas
Ok, changed! Add TM beside a Fedora bubble I changed the sequence of the 4 Foundations, I think that was good, but aesthetically I prefer the previous version [2]. [1]http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/fedora/fisl10/banner.png [2] http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/fedora/fisl10/banner-old.pnghttp://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/fedora/fisl10/banner.png Tatica, you may also have to put the TM in their art and I agree to the changes proposes by Nicu. Cheers. 2009/5/5 Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 06:31:57AM -0700, Máirín Duffy wrote: Original Message From: Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 8:37:44 AM Subject: Re: Banner ideas On 05/05/2009 03:19 PM, Jayme Ayres wrote: 2009/5/5 Nicu Buculei As a minor observation, you forgot one TM near the bubble logo - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines#Vertical_Version_of_the_Logo Sorry (IMO) about TM, is really necessary? :) I know it is a guidelines, but I think now that there is a TM in type, it is really necessary to put in another TM bubble? I am not a trademark expert, but I expect so: all the official versions of the logo have the TM sign in both places. But maybe we will have some more insightful input from Mo or Paul. Yeh, it is necessary; both are needed. What Mo said, +1. :-) -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Jayme Ayres www.jaymeayres.com www.projetofedora.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JaymeAyres ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Banner ideas
On 05/04/2009 06:40 PM, María Leandro wrote: Hello all. Hi, I was working on some ideas for a banner that we want to use on fisl 9.0 ( FUDcon Latam ) but I know that I have some mistakes with the logo guidance and the tm background. But I think is a cool idea :) It is a banner? Seeing the image size I thought it is a poster... Some brainstorm? NOTE: The banner is on spanish and has the proyectofedora url (Latam website) But you keep them as text, so is easy to translate, good thing. For bonus points (easier translation), you can also align the text to the center, so even a monkey can translate :D png http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-LATAM/pendon3a.png source svg: (please use mgopen fonts) http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-LATAM/pendon3a.svg Ket me start by saying I *love* the concept, I find the four bubbles (4 F) at a certain perspective just awesome. There are still a few problems: - the white band around the logo is a breakage logo usage guidelines, which is a shame, as this way it fir the 4 elements below; - the TM near the logo is badly placed; - the bold variant of the MgOpen Modata used for the URL at the bottom is not that pleasant, it would be better (IMO) with thicker letters; - I would like the design just a bit less centered. Here is my remix based on your graphics: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/pendon3b.png http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/pendon3b.svg Note: I know it can be improved further, the top-right corner has to much empty space. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Banner ideas
Hey body, excellent idea... I has saved it into my images... It's very usefull for meetings and presentations Manny ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Banner ideas
Hey body, excellent idea... I has saved it into my images... It's very usefull for meetings and presentations *Manny* ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Banner ideas
On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 07:02:50PM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: On 05/04/2009 06:40 PM, María Leandro wrote: Hello all. Hi, I was working on some ideas for a banner that we want to use on fisl 9.0 ( FUDcon Latam ) but I know that I have some mistakes with the logo guidance and the tm background. But I think is a cool idea :) It is a banner? Seeing the image size I thought it is a poster... Some brainstorm? NOTE: The banner is on spanish and has the proyectofedora url (Latam website) But you keep them as text, so is easy to translate, good thing. For bonus points (easier translation), you can also align the text to the center, so even a monkey can translate :D png http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-LATAM/pendon3a.png source svg: (please use mgopen fonts) http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-LATAM/pendon3a.svg Ket me start by saying I *love* the concept, I find the four bubbles (4 F) at a certain perspective just awesome. There are still a few problems: - the white band around the logo is a breakage logo usage guidelines, which is a shame, as this way it fir the 4 elements below; - the TM near the logo is badly placed; - the bold variant of the MgOpen Modata used for the URL at the bottom is not that pleasant, it would be better (IMO) with thicker letters; - I would like the design just a bit less centered. Here is my remix based on your graphics: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/pendon3b.png http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/pendon3b.svg Note: I know it can be improved further, the top-right corner has to much empty space. Are the four leaves of the 4-Foundations clover meant to be aligned? Maybe it's just an optical illusion or my bad eyesight, but they look a little out of alignment to me. Other than that, and Nicu's corrections to the logo presentation, this is REALLY cool. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Banner ideas
As we have several spaces in the event, Maria Leandro and I are thinking of doing some different gear, my idea is that http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/fedora/fisl10/banner.png It is difficult to work with the 4 f's because both in Portuguese and in Spanish the words do not begin with the letter F, so my idea is to relieve the original idea. Tatica has done a beautiful art with the leaves and I think we can use the two gears to put the events where Fedora will be present. J 2009/5/4 Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 13:09 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: Are the four leaves of the 4-Foundations clover meant to be aligned? Maybe it's just an optical illusion or my bad eyesight, but they look a little out of alignment to me. Other than that, and Nicu's The 'friends' one seems to be a little to close than I would expect it, but it might be just an optical illusion caused by the perspective used. corrections to the logo presentation, this is REALLY cool. Yup, I also tend to prefer Nicu's version, however, there seems to be something funky going on with the font border - there seem to be spikes and holes... Looks like this particular font needs different stroke settings (probably rounded corners and endings would be best). Also I find the fedora logo too big. So I've poked a little with it as well: http://mso.fedorapeople.org/designs/pendon3c.png http://mso.fedorapeople.org/designs/pendon3c.svg Martin ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Jayme Ayres www.jaymeayres.com www.projetofedora.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JaymeAyres ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Banner ideas
On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 03:28:52PM -0300, Jayme Ayres wrote: As we have several spaces in the event, Maria Leandro and I are thinking of doing some different gear, my idea is that http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/ fedora/fisl10/banner.png It is difficult to work with the 4 f's because both in Portuguese and in Spanish the words do not begin with the letter F, so my idea is to relieve the original idea. Tatica has done a beautiful art with the leaves and I think we can use the two gears to put the events where Fedora will be present. That's one of the main reasons why we don't call them 4 F's, but rather 4 Foundations. The foundations are core values, not marketing slogans. I wrote up a page to explain them here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Foundations Obviously we knew that translations would change these foundations so they wouldn't be alliterated. That's OK -- it's the *value* that's important, not the word itself. As long as a translation is matching the value of the foundation itself, it's a good choice. The icons help to make this distinction as well -- they make a link between the idea behind the word, and the words used in every other language. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Banner ideas
On 05/04/2009 08:43 PM, Martin Sourada wrote: Yup, I also tend to prefer Nicu's version, however, there seems to be something funky going on with the font border - there seem to be spikes and holes... Looks like this particular font needs different stroke settings (probably rounded corners and endings would be best). My bad! I was in a rush and didn't look closely... Also I find the fedora logo too big. So I've poked a little with it as well: http://mso.fedorapeople.org/designs/pendon3c.png http://mso.fedorapeople.org/designs/pendon3c.svg Isn't this design ping-pong really fun? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list