Re: Banner ideas

2009-05-05 Thread Nicu Buculei

On 05/05/2009 03:19 PM, Jayme Ayres wrote:

2009/5/5 Nicu Buculei
As a minor observation, you forgot one TM near the bubble logo -

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines#Vertical_Version_of_the_Logo

Sorry (IMO) about TM, is really necessary? :)
I know it is a guidelines, but I think now that there is a TM in type,
it is really necessary to put in another TM bubble?


I am not a trademark expert, but I expect so: all the official versions 
of the logo have the TM sign in both places. But maybe we will have some 
more insightful input from Mo or Paul.



On the order of the words I understand the concern, but understands that
when words are translated the size of each of them then tried to
equalize changes significantly as the size of each building in the
correct order, to strike a balance and a degree. See the imbalance there
is in the correct order of the words:
LIBERDADE
AMIZADE
FUNICONALIDADES
INOVAÇÃO


I have the same problem in my own language:
LIBERTATE
PRIETENIE (or rarely used AMICIȚIE)
FUNCȚIONALITĂȚI
PRIMUL (or ÎNTÂIETATE)

... awfully close, right?

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Re: Banner ideas

2009-05-05 Thread Nicu Buculei

On 05/05/2009 03:39 PM, María Leandro wrote:

Other try:

http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-LATAM/pendon3c.png

a detailed view of the 4 foundations:

http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-LATAM/4fundaciones-relieve.png


I like this... I was thinking to suggest some extrusion for the 
foundation icons but didn't want to sound too demanding. But you are 
cool enough and did it by yourself.



source:

http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-LATAM/pendon3c.svg


...still not sure about the way you wrote the url at the bottom, the 
.org part is hard to read.


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Re: Banner ideas

2009-05-05 Thread Máirín Duffy

 Original Message 

 From: Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro
 To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com
 Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 8:37:44 AM
 Subject: Re: Banner ideas
 
 On 05/05/2009 03:19 PM, Jayme Ayres wrote:
  2009/5/5 Nicu Buculei
  As a minor observation, you forgot one TM near the bubble logo -
 
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines#Vertical_Version_of_the_Logo
  
  Sorry (IMO) about TM, is really necessary? :)
  I know it is a guidelines, but I think now that there is a TM in type,
  it is really necessary to put in another TM bubble?
 
 I am not a trademark expert, but I expect so: all the official versions of 
 the 
 logo have the TM sign in both places. But maybe we will have some more 
 insightful input from Mo or Paul.

Yeh, it is necessary; both are needed.

~m



  

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Re: Banner ideas

2009-05-05 Thread Jayme Ayres
Ok, changed!
Add TM beside a Fedora bubble
 I changed the sequence of the 4 Foundations, I think that was good, but
aesthetically I prefer the previous version [2].
[1]http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/fedora/fisl10/banner.png
[2] 
http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/fedora/fisl10/banner-old.pnghttp://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/fedora/fisl10/banner.png

Tatica, you may also have to put the TM in their art and I agree to the
changes proposes by Nicu.

Cheers.


2009/5/5 Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com

 On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 06:31:57AM -0700, Máirín Duffy wrote:
 
   Original Message 
 
   From: Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro
   To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com
   Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 8:37:44 AM
   Subject: Re: Banner ideas
  
   On 05/05/2009 03:19 PM, Jayme Ayres wrote:
2009/5/5 Nicu Buculei
As a minor observation, you forgot one TM near the bubble logo -
   
  
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines#Vertical_Version_of_the_Logo
   
Sorry (IMO) about TM, is really necessary? :)
I know it is a guidelines, but I think now that there is a TM in
 type,
it is really necessary to put in another TM bubble?
  
   I am not a trademark expert, but I expect so: all the official versions
 of the
   logo have the TM sign in both places. But maybe we will have some more
   insightful input from Mo or Paul.
 
  Yeh, it is necessary; both are needed.

 What Mo said, +1. :-)

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Re: Banner ideas

2009-05-04 Thread Nicu Buculei

On 05/04/2009 06:40 PM, María Leandro wrote:

Hello all.


Hi,


I was working on some ideas for a banner that we want to use on fisl
9.0 ( FUDcon Latam ) but I know that I have some mistakes with the
logo guidance and the tm background. But I think is a cool idea :)


It is a banner? Seeing the image size I thought it is a poster...


Some brainstorm?

NOTE: The banner is on spanish and has the proyectofedora url (Latam website)


But you keep them as text, so is easy to translate, good thing. For 
bonus points (easier translation), you can also align the text to the 
center, so even a monkey can translate :D



png
http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-LATAM/pendon3a.png

source svg: (please use mgopen fonts)
http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-LATAM/pendon3a.svg


Ket me start by saying I *love* the concept, I find the four bubbles (4 
F) at a certain perspective just awesome. There are still a few problems:
- the white band around the logo is a breakage logo usage guidelines, 
which is a shame, as this way it fir the 4 elements below;

- the TM near the logo is badly placed;
- the bold variant of the MgOpen Modata used for the URL at the bottom 
is not that pleasant, it would be better (IMO) with thicker letters;

- I would like the design just a bit less centered.

Here is my remix based on your graphics:
http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/pendon3b.png
http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/pendon3b.svg

Note: I know it can be improved further, the top-right corner has to 
much empty space.


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Re: Banner ideas

2009-05-04 Thread MANNY HIDALBEMA
Hey body, excellent idea... I has saved it into my images...
It's very usefull for meetings and presentations
Manny
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Re: Banner ideas

2009-05-04 Thread MANNY HIDALBEMA
Hey body, excellent idea... I has saved it into my images...
It's very usefull for meetings and presentations
*Manny*
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Re: Banner ideas

2009-05-04 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 07:02:50PM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
 On 05/04/2009 06:40 PM, María Leandro wrote:
 Hello all.

 Hi,

 I was working on some ideas for a banner that we want to use on fisl
 9.0 ( FUDcon Latam ) but I know that I have some mistakes with the
 logo guidance and the tm background. But I think is a cool idea :)

 It is a banner? Seeing the image size I thought it is a poster...

 Some brainstorm?

 NOTE: The banner is on spanish and has the proyectofedora url (Latam website)

 But you keep them as text, so is easy to translate, good thing. For bonus 
 points (easier translation), you can also align the text to the center, so 
 even a monkey can translate :D

 png
 http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-LATAM/pendon3a.png

 source svg: (please use mgopen fonts)
 http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-LATAM/pendon3a.svg

 Ket me start by saying I *love* the concept, I find the four bubbles (4  
 F) at a certain perspective just awesome. There are still a few problems:
 - the white band around the logo is a breakage logo usage guidelines,  
 which is a shame, as this way it fir the 4 elements below;
 - the TM near the logo is badly placed;
 - the bold variant of the MgOpen Modata used for the URL at the bottom is 
 not that pleasant, it would be better (IMO) with thicker letters;
 - I would like the design just a bit less centered.

 Here is my remix based on your graphics:
 http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/pendon3b.png
 http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/pendon3b.svg

 Note: I know it can be improved further, the top-right corner has to much 
 empty space.

Are the four leaves of the 4-Foundations clover meant to be aligned?
Maybe it's just an optical illusion or my bad eyesight, but they look
a little out of alignment to me.  Other than that, and Nicu's
corrections to the logo presentation, this is REALLY cool.
 
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Re: Banner ideas

2009-05-04 Thread Jayme Ayres
As we have several spaces in the event, Maria Leandro and I are thinking of
doing some different gear, my idea is that
http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/fedora/fisl10/banner.png

It is difficult to work with the 4 f's because both in Portuguese and in
Spanish the words do not begin with the letter F, so my idea is to relieve
the original idea. Tatica has done a beautiful art with the leaves and I
think we can use the two gears to put the events where Fedora will be
present.

J

2009/5/4 Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com

 On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 13:09 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:

  Are the four leaves of the 4-Foundations clover meant to be aligned?
  Maybe it's just an optical illusion or my bad eyesight, but they look
  a little out of alignment to me.  Other than that, and Nicu's
 The 'friends' one seems to be a little to close than I would expect it,
 but it might be just an optical illusion caused by the perspective used.

  corrections to the logo presentation, this is REALLY cool.
 
 Yup, I also tend to prefer Nicu's version, however, there seems to be
 something funky going on with the font border - there seem to be spikes
 and holes... Looks like this particular font needs different stroke
 settings (probably rounded corners and endings would be best).

 Also I find the fedora logo too big. So I've poked a little with it as
 well:

 http://mso.fedorapeople.org/designs/pendon3c.png
 http://mso.fedorapeople.org/designs/pendon3c.svg

 Martin

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Re: Banner ideas

2009-05-04 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 03:28:52PM -0300, Jayme Ayres wrote:
 As we have several spaces in the event, Maria Leandro and I are thinking of
 doing some different gear, my idea is that http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/
 fedora/fisl10/banner.png
 
 It is difficult to work with the 4 f's because both in Portuguese and in
 Spanish the words do not begin with the letter F, so my idea is to relieve the
 original idea. Tatica has done a beautiful art with the leaves and I think we
 can use the two gears to put the events where Fedora will be present.

That's one of the main reasons why we don't call them 4 F's, but
rather 4 Foundations.  The foundations are core values, not
marketing slogans.  I wrote up a page to explain them here:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Foundations

Obviously we knew that translations would change these foundations so
they wouldn't be alliterated.  That's OK -- it's the *value* that's
important, not the word itself.  As long as a translation is matching
the value of the foundation itself, it's a good choice.  The icons
help to make this distinction as well -- they make a link between the
idea behind the word, and the words used in every other language.

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Re: Banner ideas

2009-05-04 Thread Nicu Buculei

On 05/04/2009 08:43 PM, Martin Sourada wrote:

Yup, I also tend to prefer Nicu's version, however, there seems to be
something funky going on with the font border - there seem to be spikes
and holes... Looks like this particular font needs different stroke
settings (probably rounded corners and endings would be best).


My bad! I was in a rush and didn't look closely...


Also I find the fedora logo too big. So I've poked a little with it as
well:

http://mso.fedorapeople.org/designs/pendon3c.png
http://mso.fedorapeople.org/designs/pendon3c.svg


Isn't this design ping-pong really fun?

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