Re: F11 visual concept idea - greek
Nicu Buculei wrote: Martin Sourada wrote: Anyway, see the concept more like I think the olive tree would be good if it were placed here, there I'd like some log, ... and as a base for further development, should we go with this approach. Though I fully realize that making 3D-looking art with perspective purely in inkscape isn't an easy task. I like how you put the elements in the image and the ability to play with them (move, resize, etc.) I also think we *wont't* manage to come with something realistic made completely with Inkscape, so we may have to go with either photomanip and a realistic look or drawing and stylization. BTW, I guess not all of us noticed the cool and related 3D design posted by Mola on IRC: http://mola.fedorapeople.org/fedora_river_004.jpg - awesome, but still not realistic enough IMO. We could play around using Inkscape and even Mola's renders to figure out the composition of the image, then use photomanip techniques to fill it in... that seems like it would work better than what I've been doing, which is trying to find an openly-licensed photo with a good composition and working off of that. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F11 visual concept idea - greek
Martin Sourada wrote: Anyway, see the concept more like I think the olive tree would be good if it were placed here, there I'd like some log, ... and as a base for further development, should we go with this approach. Though I fully realize that making 3D-looking art with perspective purely in inkscape isn't an easy task. I like how you put the elements in the image and the ability to play with them (move, resize, etc.) I also think we *wont't* manage to come with something realistic made completely with Inkscape, so we may have to go with either photomanip and a realistic look or drawing and stylization. BTW, I guess not all of us noticed the cool and related 3D design posted by Mola on IRC: http://mola.fedorapeople.org/fedora_river_004.jpg - awesome, but still not realistic enough IMO. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F11 visual concept idea - greek
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 09:54 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote: Hi Samuele, Samuele Storari wrote: Hi all I work on the Acient Greek theme for this Fedora's release I think is the best one. Mo I'd like your idea to create a collage from different landscape or other image. For this theme I try to work on the Spartan Leonidas idea, I work on the Acient Helm so we don't have discussion on violence or other not connected idea. I started looking some inspiration photos on flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/ghost_of_kuji/2763629314/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/protectorrr/2714125326/ then I draw my own. Let me suggest to you guys my idea and let me know your guess and your suggestions. Maybe someone could help me to find some more dettailed photos of the helm? For F11 we're trying to work together on the same concept, we aren't doing competing ideas anymore. Our deadline for a decision on the visual concept (basically, how will we visually depict 'Leonidas') is February 1. Do you think there is a way we can integrate the idea of your helmet with a landscape of Greek architecture for the wallpaper, and maybe we could integrate the helmet in other artwork too? Do you have any ideas on what a landscape with the helmet integrated into it might look like? I do think based on the wallpaper poll results that we should try for a landscape for the wallpaper, but that doesn't mean we can't have a helmet placed in it or somehow work the idea of a helmet in it? I like the idea of having a helmet somewhere because Leonidas was from Sparta and Sparta was very militaristic, but at the same time a helmet is for protection so it's not too violent a symbol as you said. What do you think? Do you have ideas on how we can work together? ~m I think adding a helmet would be great. I have an idea of small bronze Greek helmet laying on the ground - either on the bottom left on grass (here I'd use some older helmet, let it blend with nature), while the bigger temple being on the bottom right, or having the helmet laying on one of the stairs leading to temple (if we make a temple with stairs; here I'd use rather shiny new helmet). Either way, my idea is focusing rather on the spiritual part of the image, I'd draw it how it could look if the temple was new and still used by old Greeks, perhaps around the columns could be some grapes or some other plant growing, I can also imagine hot springs (with vapour flowing up from the springs, creating a mist) and maybe forest or small bushes nearby, possibly with Mt. Olympus being seen in a distance. Though I am not sure if we'd be able to do such complex art from scratch with inkscape; or if we'd be doing photo-realistic one, if we could get hands on fitting and properly licensed photos... Maybe if I have enough time I'll try to sketch the idea in inkscape, but do not expect something that will look good _ Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F11 visual concept idea - greek
Martin Sourada wrote: Either way, my idea is focusing rather on the spiritual part of the image, I'd draw it how it could look if the temple was new and still used by old Greeks, perhaps around the columns could be some grapes or some other plant growing, I can also imagine hot springs (with vapour flowing up from the springs, creating a mist) and maybe forest or small bushes nearby, possibly with Mt. Olympus being seen in a distance. Though I am not sure if we'd be able to do such complex art from scratch with inkscape; or if we'd be doing photo-realistic one, if we could get hands on fitting and properly licensed photos... Maybe if I have enough time I'll try to sketch the idea in inkscape, but do not expect something that will look good _ Awesome, I look forward to it! I'm going to try to put something together tonight too to push this idea further and we can critique each other's sketches/mockups and figure out what parts work. The Feb 1 (today :) ) deadline isn't for us to have beautiful polished artwork, but to just to know what we'll be working on for the next few weeks. It seems like we are reaching a consensus on doing a Grecian landscape with a helmet columns and some natural elements like Olympus, vines, etc., so I think we've pretty much met our goal which is great! :) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F11 visual concept idea - greek
On Sun, 2009-02-01 at 12:58 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote: It seems like we are reaching a consensus on doing a Grecian landscape with a helmet columns and some natural elements like Olympus, vines, etc., so I think we've pretty much met our goal which is great! :) ~m For the natural elements part, I believe olive trees could be an addition, as they are symbols of glory peace. In ancient Greece olive was sacred. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Konstantinos Antonakoglou PGP key: 0xC9E2E16B anton.c...@gmail.com constanton @ Freenode signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F11 visual concept idea - greek
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Konstantinos Antonakoglou a écrit : | | For the natural elements part, I believe olive trees could be an | addition, as they are symbols of glory peace. In ancient Greece olive | was sacred. Agreed. Olive trees are excellent choice for the theme. Luya -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmGj8kACgkQa10Jb0NOz+GY0wCbBddN/9tSa3qwaaYBF5QAsfIp kcMAoKP/KbF6MvyEOTUK4cJBZZB19K3u =/jdK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F11 visual concept idea - greek
Hi everybody ! I just wanted to mention that, after reading this thrad, I uploaded a few pictures I've made during a trip in Greece. I don't know if it is usable for graphical work, but I thought it could give some inspiration to someone. Here is the url : http://picasaweb.google.fr/kobal.inpacted/GreekLandscapesAndArchitecture?feat=directlink Besides that, you did a wonderful job on Fedora 10 and I'm looking forward the next step :) (sorry for the bad english) -- David Leray 2009/2/1 Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 09:54 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote: Hi Samuele, Samuele Storari wrote: Hi all I work on the Acient Greek theme for this Fedora's release I think is the best one. Mo I'd like your idea to create a collage from different landscape or other image. For this theme I try to work on the Spartan Leonidas idea, I work on the Acient Helm so we don't have discussion on violence or other not connected idea. I started looking some inspiration photos on flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/ghost_of_kuji/2763629314/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/protectorrr/2714125326/ then I draw my own. Let me suggest to you guys my idea and let me know your guess and your suggestions. Maybe someone could help me to find some more dettailed photos of the helm? For F11 we're trying to work together on the same concept, we aren't doing competing ideas anymore. Our deadline for a decision on the visual concept (basically, how will we visually depict 'Leonidas') is February 1. Do you think there is a way we can integrate the idea of your helmet with a landscape of Greek architecture for the wallpaper, and maybe we could integrate the helmet in other artwork too? Do you have any ideas on what a landscape with the helmet integrated into it might look like? I do think based on the wallpaper poll results that we should try for a landscape for the wallpaper, but that doesn't mean we can't have a helmet placed in it or somehow work the idea of a helmet in it? I like the idea of having a helmet somewhere because Leonidas was from Sparta and Sparta was very militaristic, but at the same time a helmet is for protection so it's not too violent a symbol as you said. What do you think? Do you have ideas on how we can work together? ~m I think adding a helmet would be great. I have an idea of small bronze Greek helmet laying on the ground - either on the bottom left on grass (here I'd use some older helmet, let it blend with nature), while the bigger temple being on the bottom right, or having the helmet laying on one of the stairs leading to temple (if we make a temple with stairs; here I'd use rather shiny new helmet). Either way, my idea is focusing rather on the spiritual part of the image, I'd draw it how it could look if the temple was new and still used by old Greeks, perhaps around the columns could be some grapes or some other plant growing, I can also imagine hot springs (with vapour flowing up from the springs, creating a mist) and maybe forest or small bushes nearby, possibly with Mt. Olympus being seen in a distance. Though I am not sure if we'd be able to do such complex art from scratch with inkscape; or if we'd be doing photo-realistic one, if we could get hands on fitting and properly licensed photos... Maybe if I have enough time I'll try to sketch the idea in inkscape, but do not expect something that will look good _ Martin ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F11 visual concept idea - greek
Máirín Duffy wrote: Hi Samuele, Samuele Storari wrote: Hi all I work on the Acient Greek theme for this Fedora's release I think is the best one. Mo I'd like your idea to create a collage from different landscape or other image. For this theme I try to work on the Spartan Leonidas idea, I work on the Acient Helm so we don't have discussion on violence or other not connected idea. I started looking some inspiration photos on flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/ghost_of_kuji/2763629314/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/protectorrr/2714125326/ then I draw my own. Let me suggest to you guys my idea and let me know your guess and your suggestions. Maybe someone could help me to find some more dettailed photos of the helm? For F11 we're trying to work together on the same concept, we aren't doing competing ideas anymore. Our deadline for a decision on the visual concept (basically, how will we visually depict 'Leonidas') is February 1. Do you think there is a way we can integrate the idea of your helmet with a landscape of Greek architecture for the wallpaper, and maybe we could integrate the helmet in other artwork too? Do you have any ideas on what a landscape with the helmet integrated into it might look like? I do think based on the wallpaper poll results that we should try for a landscape for the wallpaper, but that doesn't mean we can't have a helmet placed in it or somehow work the idea of a helmet in it? I like the idea of having a helmet somewhere because Leonidas was from Sparta and Sparta was very militaristic, but at the same time a helmet is for protection so it's not too violent a symbol as you said. What do you think? Do you have ideas on how we can work together? ~m How about four spears stuck in the ground, which are forming a totem like shape, with the helmet supported by or on top of the spear points? It could symbolize the 4 F's that make the basic support structure of Fedora, as well as be themed by the codename. -- ~Michael http://michaelbox.net ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F11 visual concept idea - greek
Hi Samuele, Samuele Storari wrote: Hi all I work on the Acient Greek theme for this Fedora's release I think is the best one. Mo I'd like your idea to create a collage from different landscape or other image. For this theme I try to work on the Spartan Leonidas idea, I work on the Acient Helm so we don't have discussion on violence or other not connected idea. I started looking some inspiration photos on flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/ghost_of_kuji/2763629314/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/protectorrr/2714125326/ then I draw my own. Let me suggest to you guys my idea and let me know your guess and your suggestions. Maybe someone could help me to find some more dettailed photos of the helm? For F11 we're trying to work together on the same concept, we aren't doing competing ideas anymore. Our deadline for a decision on the visual concept (basically, how will we visually depict 'Leonidas') is February 1. Do you think there is a way we can integrate the idea of your helmet with a landscape of Greek architecture for the wallpaper, and maybe we could integrate the helmet in other artwork too? Do you have any ideas on what a landscape with the helmet integrated into it might look like? I do think based on the wallpaper poll results that we should try for a landscape for the wallpaper, but that doesn't mean we can't have a helmet placed in it or somehow work the idea of a helmet in it? I like the idea of having a helmet somewhere because Leonidas was from Sparta and Sparta was very militaristic, but at the same time a helmet is for protection so it's not too violent a symbol as you said. What do you think? Do you have ideas on how we can work together? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F11 visual concept idea - greek
Quoting MáirÃÂn Duffy du...@fedoraproject.org: Hi folks, This is a really really sloppy mockup but hopefully illustrates the kind of visuals I'm thinking of for F11: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/8/83/Artwork_F11_greek-concept_mockup1_mo.png I think of desolation when I see that image with a ruins from old Greek temple (tend to get bored so easily) and a very dry land. That picture would mean Fedora after collapse. Greece is famous with its olive field so the land needs to be green. I see mountain that look like Olympia and the sky appears to be a god/goddess land. That image needs to be live, not dead. Let see what the next iteration will bring. Luya ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F11 visual concept idea - greek
On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 05:29 -0500, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Quoting MáirÃÂn Duffy du...@fedoraproject.org: Hi folks, This is a really really sloppy mockup but hopefully illustrates the kind of visuals I'm thinking of for F11: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/8/83/Artwork_F11_greek-concept_mockup1_mo.png I think of desolation when I see that image with a ruins from old Greek temple (tend to get bored so easily) and a very dry land. That picture would mean Fedora after collapse. Greece is famous with its olive field so the land needs to be green. I see mountain that look like Olympia and the sky appears to be a god/goddess land. That image needs to be live, not dead. Let see what the next iteration will bring. Yep, I like the concept as a whole, but I'd perhaps use some ancient temple/building that is *not* in ruins, Also having the ground covered in green (or more colours, if it were to evoke spring) would definitely make the image better/livelier. Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F11 visual concept idea - greek
Well, based on what I've read so far, I gave it a try and produced this: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Artwork_F11-thermopylae-greek-mockup.jpg Maybe too detailed, but I just want to point out the main concept, which is the combination of ancient Greece and nature (water, mountains with a lot of green). Sorry if I messed the gallery table a bit : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Artwork#Mock-ups -- Konstantinos Antonakoglou PGP key: 0xC9E2E16B anton.c...@gmail.com constanton @ Freenode signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F11 visual concept idea - greek
Máirín Duffy (du...@fedoraproject.org) said: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Artwork_F11-thermopylae-greek-mockup.jpg Maybe too detailed, but I just want to point out the main concept, which is the combination of ancient Greece and nature (water, mountains with a lot of green). Hey thanks Konstantinos (and everyone else)! I'll try to make the image more alive and green like your mockup! I like the idea. A question - is it possible/should we look for a full photo (appropriately licensed) that can be used? (For example, http://flickr.com/photos/11909...@n00/2184295492/ doesn't have the right license, but it's the right sort of idea.) Bill ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) said: I like the idea. A question - is it possible/should we look for a full photo (appropriately licensed) that can be used? Wow, searching by license pulls a lot fewer than I'd hope. But still there are some that may be useful: http://flickr.com/photos/wolfgangstaudt/1128495207/ http://flickr.com/photos/byrdiegyrl/2921157353/ http://flickr.com/photos/condour/25436733/ http://flickr.com/photos/cwinters/23051637/ Bill ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F11 visual concept idea - greek
looks incredible IMHO. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Máirín Duffy du...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Hi folks, This is a really really sloppy mockup but hopefully illustrates the kind of visuals I'm thinking of for F11: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/8/83/Artwork_F11_greek-concept_mockup1_mo.png I'm thinking maybe somewhere more mountainous with some mists, and with some vines/plants growing up the columns with some sunbeams on them. What do you think? Source materials are referenced on the main F11 Artwork page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F11#Mock-ups ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- --- uzu linukso. subtenu libera programaro. kotizu al http://www.thebadapples.info/ogg.xml http://www.fedorareloaded.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F11 visual concept idea - greek
Máirín Duffy wrote: This is a really really sloppy mockup but hopefully illustrates the kind of visuals I'm thinking of for F11: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/8/83/Artwork_F11_greek-concept_mockup1_mo.png I'm thinking maybe somewhere more mountainous with some mists, and with some vines/plants growing up the columns with some sunbeams on them. What do you think? And maybe some green, the first impression looking at the mockup was that the pasture is sand and all he pictures is a wasteland with ruins. But having some misty mountains (the Olympus) should be awesome. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
