Bill Nottingham wrote:
Ralf Corsepius (rc040...@freenet.de) said:
*That's* what I mean by "we don't really support i586 in any meaningful
manner".
You seem to be speaking in terms of "You == RH".
No, period - I haven't seen anyone in the community say that they're
testing it on i586-class ha
On 06/19/2009 12:38 AM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>
> You never tried to convey anything to me. Back in Februar I asked for
> your ks and you said you wanted to post it to fedora-devel. This never
> happened.
I got distracted with other things. Mine wasn't that different anyway.
It was the almost
Hi,
On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 21:11 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 03:02:53PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 19:09 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > > Can the malware inject code into the process which gained the
> > > authentication (eg. using
Am Donnerstag, den 18.06.2009, 16:04 -0700 schrieb Toshio Kuratomi:
> On 06/18/2009 02:41 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>
> > There is no SIG yet because A SIG needs APPROVAL from the board. But
> > there already are couple of people interested: Marc Wiriadisastra, Simon
> > Wesp, Sebastian Vahl an
On 06/18/2009 02:41 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> There is no SIG yet because A SIG needs APPROVAL from the board. But
> there already are couple of people interested: Marc Wiriadisastra, Simon
> Wesp, Sebastian Vahl and two people from the LXDE team who have joined
> Fedora recently but are stil
Am Donnerstag, den 18.06.2009, 16:59 -0400 schrieb TK009:
> On 06/18/2009 03:08 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> > (@all: See fedora-list for previous postings.)
> >
> > Am Donnerstag, den 18.06.2009, 11:17 +0530 schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
> >
> >> I had already did a remix based on LXDE a release bef
> I give up trying to reason with you. Bye.
don't be offended, I myself was from those who had disabled the
feature in mandriva [when it was mandrake]
but I'm not a typical user because
* I have fast internet at home [which most people in my country don't]
* I keep iso files and loop back them
David Nielsen, Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:21:59 +0200:
> Btrfs has been surprisingly good for me, no problems outside claiming
> the partition was full when there was 25gb left (on a 120gb drive). I
> say bring on this update, hilarity and dataloss, they do mix no matter
> what sanity says.
I just want t
On 06/18/2009 03:08 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> (@all: See fedora-list for previous postings.)
>
> Am Donnerstag, den 18.06.2009, 11:17 +0530 schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
>
>> I had already did a remix based on LXDE a release before and I had the
>> kickstart and a working image a while earlier. Th
On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 20:53 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 07:09:29PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:02:22AM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > > The retained authorization is only valid for the subject that obtained
> > > it, which will typi
> If one application acquires an authorization it automatically authorizes all
> other
applications running on the same desktop -- and I think that is a
potential attack vector for malware.
maybe this is about sudo and a like things
but PolicyKit is designed AFAIK to be much fine grained, it doe
Here's a list of topics for tomorrow's FESCo meeting, taking place in
#fedora-meeting on freenode at 17:00UTC.
#167 Feature: F12X86Support -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F12X86Support
#168 Feature: NFSClientIPv6 -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NFSClientIPv6
#169 Feature: XZR
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 03:02:53PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 19:09 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:02:22AM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > > The retained authorization is only valid for the subject that obtained
> > > it, which will typi
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> Can the malware inject code into the process which gained the
> authentication (eg. using ptrace)?
Also, using a new PackageKit the worst you'll be able to do is install
signed software from already configured repos. Installing untrusted
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 07:09:29PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:02:22AM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > The retained authorization is only valid for the subject that obtained
> > it, which will typically be a process (identified by process id and
> > start time) o
(@all: See fedora-list for previous postings.)
Am Donnerstag, den 18.06.2009, 11:17 +0530 schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
> I had already did a remix based on LXDE a release before and I had the
> kickstart and a working image a while earlier. The survey was done on
> this list just to gauge interest in
On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 19:09 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:02:22AM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > The retained authorization is only valid for the subject that obtained
> > it, which will typically be a process (identified by process id and
> > start time) or a can
Den 2009-06-18 05:10, Bill Nottingham skrev:
See the Fedora Foundations [1] and Objectives [2] page. If we're truly
about being on the leading edge, being innovative, etc., the main target
of Fedora should be current hardware, even if older hardware is still
supported.
Yeah, but frankly, there
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 5:58 AM, Nils Philippsen wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 16:57 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> Ve haf zer technology, already. :) it's just a case of adding code to
>> more apps to take advantage of the awesomeness of PolicyKit, and I
>> believe this is scheduled to happen.
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>
> Can the malware inject code into the process which gained the
> authentication (eg. using ptrace)?
>
or using *LD_PRELOAD*?
>
> Rich.
>
> --
> Richard Jones, Emerging Technologies, Red Hat
> http://et.redhat.com/~rjones
> virt-p2v <
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:02:22AM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> The retained authorization is only valid for the subject that obtained
> it, which will typically be a process (identified by process id and
> start time) or a canonical bus name. And your malware does not have
> either.
Can the ma
Compose started at Thu Jun 18 06:15:14 UTC 2009
New package 389-ds-base
389 Directory Server (base)
New package 389-dsgw
389 Directory Server Gateway (dsgw)
New package eclipse-veditor
Eclipse-based Verilog/VHDL plugin
New package ghc-utf8-string
Haskell UTF8 layer
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 22:19 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
> perhaps it's best if we just agree to agree?
well that just doesn't sound like the f-d-l spirit at _all_. :D
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On Thu, 18 Jun 2009, Martin Langhoff wrote:
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
Gah. Allowing packages to pierce the firewall just makes the firewall
redundant.
True
A firewall is an extra layer of security that
simply hides the actual problem.
Um!? Layered securi
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> Gah. Allowing packages to pierce the firewall just makes the firewall
> redundant.
True
> A firewall is an extra layer of security that
> simply hides the actual problem.
Um!? Layered security is a _good thing_. *All* the network daemo
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> +arch_compat: geode: i686
...
> That should do the trick. :)
Cool. Didn't know we had that compat mechanism available.
Back to my humid cave then...
m
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mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect
- ask
On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 10:08 -0400, Jarod Wilson wrote:
>
> [1] doesn't mean a mass rebuild won't happen for RHEL6. Also doesn't
> mean that it will. Hand-wavy "can't talk about unreleased products"...
>
While not speaking in definitives, and while not speaking /for/ Red Hat,
it is extremely unli
Martin Langhoff (martin.langh...@gmail.com) said:
> To note: it _is_ reported as a 586, so at least ancillary work in
> yum/anaconda/rpm will be needed so that installing F12 on these
> "supported but not quite 686 CPUs" is possible, avoiding the hackery
> of installing it on a true 686 and then t
On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 16:58 +0200, Karsten Hopp wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The Fedora s390x team is pleased to announce a first preview of Fedora
> 11 for s390x
>From the mails I get on failed build attempts, some of the OOo s390x
dependencies seem to be giving trouble, so FWIW some time ago I built a
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Peter Robinson (pbrobin...@gmail.com) said:
>> > I know of *no one* in the community who tests on i586 to ensure that it
>> > works. (If this drags them out of silence, so be it!) It is certainly not
>> > part of the QA matrix for testing RC
Hi,
This is an accurate description of how things work, thanks to Matthias
for clearing things up on this list. There's more background information
about this particular thing here
http://hal.freedesktop.org/docs/polkit/
http://hal.freedesktop.org/docs/polkit/PolicyKit-1.8.html
http://hal.freedes
On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 11:58 +0200, Nils Philippsen wrote:
>
> As it is, malware need only sit in the background and wait for e.g. a
> PolicyKit-enabled user manager to acquire the authorization for user
> creation to be able to easily install a backdoor account.
Nils, this is somewhat inaccurate
On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 10:52 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Chitlesh GOORAH (chitlesh.goo...@gmail.com) said:
> > Hello there,
> >
> > We have some doubt about the Requires: of a default localization.
> >
> > For example, eclipse-texlipse needs aspell
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi
Hello,
The Fedora s390x team is pleased to announce a first preview of Fedora
11 for s390x
in form of a prebuilt hercules image and as a tarball which can be
unpacked on
a free DASD of your z9 or z10.
We currently have ~11600 binary packages of Fedora 11/s390x and are
working on
getting real
Chitlesh GOORAH (chitlesh.goo...@gmail.com) said:
> Hello there,
>
> We have some doubt about the Requires: of a default localization.
>
> For example, eclipse-texlipse needs aspell
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506431
>
> By default I chose aspell-en,
Any chance it could be po
Ralf Corsepius (rc040...@freenet.de) said:
>> *That's* what I mean by "we don't really support i586 in any meaningful
>> manner".
>
> You seem to be speaking in terms of "You == RH".
No, period - I haven't seen anyone in the community say that they're
testing it on i586-class hardware.
Bill
--
Peter Robinson (pbrobin...@gmail.com) said:
> > I know of *no one* in the community who tests on i586 to ensure that it
> > works. (If this drags them out of silence, so be it!) It is certainly not
> > part of the QA matrix for testing RCs. On the kernel side, I doubt the
> > kernel
> > team even
Warren Togami (wtog...@redhat.com) said:
> Nano is 64bit with virt.
>
> BTW, anyone tested these yet with Fedora?
I believe Chuck and/or DaveJ has one.
Bill
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On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Ingvar Hagelund
wrote:
> As one of many, I'm the semi-happy owner of an Apple iPhone. The iPhone and
> the iPod Touch's media player db is well supported under Linux, using tools
> like libgpod, and iFuse or sshfs for access. Until recently, one could use
> amarok
Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
> Hello there,
>
> We have some doubt about the Requires: of a default localization.
>
> For example, eclipse-texlipse needs aspell
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506431
>
> By default I chose aspell-en,
>
> # For Spell-Check (choosing default : English)
>
Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
Hello there,
We have some doubt about the Requires: of a default localization.
For example, eclipse-texlipse needs aspell
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506431
By default I chose aspell-en,
# For Spell-Check (choosing default : English)
Requires: aspe
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 15:17:28 Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 15:14 -0400, Jarod Wilson wrote:
> > I thought an official spin could only be a live image. i.e., once you
> > start letting the user choose packages in anaconda, it can't be an
> > official spin anymore. At least, I'm
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 20:46:30 Peter Robinson wrote:
> I'm not sure I understand why not. Are you saying that if RedHat
> decided that RHEL7 was to support Sparc , there'd be no interest in
> making that a primary arch?
> >>>
> >>> ppc/ppc64 is supported in RHEL. It is no longe
Hello there,
We have some doubt about the Requires: of a default localization.
For example, eclipse-texlipse needs aspell
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506431
By default I chose aspell-en,
# For Spell-Check (choosing default : English)
Requires: aspell-en
Is there any macro
Gerd Hoffmann (kra...@redhat.com) said:
> On 06/17/09 19:52, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>> P4 2.4Ghz Athlon 3400+Core2Duo E6850 Atom N270
>> march=i686/ -1.1% +2.0% +0.9% +0.6%
>> mtune=generic
>> march=i586/ +0.3% -0.3% -0.
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 2:31 PM, James Hubbard wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:28 PM, James Hubbard wrote:
>>> Trying to berate people into using x86_64 as I've seen in this and
>>> other threads has gotten annoying.
>>
>> Berate? I'm not t
Jens Petersen (peter...@redhat.com) said:
> > The desktop spin in F11 still had language groups, AFAIK.
>
> Actually I removed them all at the very end of the F10 cycle (and then
> reverted the change for the f10 branch of spin-kickstarts).
Although, given that the translations are in the main
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:28 PM, James Hubbard wrote:
>> Trying to berate people into using x86_64 as I've seen in this and
>> other threads has gotten annoying.
>
> Berate? I'm not trying to berate anyone. What I am trying to do is get
> a han
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
>> At some point in the next few weeks this kernel will land in rawhide.
>> I will try and make sure btrfs-progs-0.19 goes out at the same time.
>> The new btrfs-progs isn't essential for running the new format, so if
>> you just install the ke
On Thu, 7 May 2009 17:26:23 +0200, Michael wrote:
> Dependency chaos. Some packagers have started with adding
>
> Requires: %{_libdir}/pkgconfig
>
> instead of the good old "Requires: pkgconfig". Not only is this dependency
> expensive -- the filelists metadata must be loaded and parsed -- it
On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 16:57 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Ve haf zer technology, already. :) it's just a case of adding code to
> more apps to take advantage of the awesomeness of PolicyKit, and I
> believe this is scheduled to happen.
I still have one fairly serious gripe with PolicyKit: If one
>> Hi,
>>
>> > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 01:52:26PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>> >> - Build all packages for i686 (this requires cmov)
>>
>> > This cuts out AMD Geode ...
>>
>> That's not true; Geode has cmov, and should be compatible with gcc's i686.
>
> It does work - I have CentOS 5.3
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 06:14:33PM -0400, Chris Ball wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 01:52:26PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>>> - Build all packages for i686 (this requires cmov)
>
>> This cuts out AMD Geode ...
>
> That's not true; Geode has cmov, and should be compatibl
>> I'm not sure I understand why not. Are you saying that if RedHat
>> decided that RHEL7 was to support Sparc , there'd be no interest in
>> making that a primary arch?
>
> ppc/ppc64 is supported in RHEL. It is no longer a primary arch in Fedora.
Sorry? I thought it
> At some point in the next few weeks this kernel will land in rawhide.
> I will try and make sure btrfs-progs-0.19 goes out at the same time.
> The new btrfs-progs isn't essential for running the new format, so if
> you just install the kernel you will be fine, but obviously some of
> the commands
On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 12:53 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
> In F-11 the samba4 package provides subpackages for libtalloc and
> libtdb.
> In rawhide we have split these packages out on their own as these 2
> packages are finally released independently also upstream.
>
> I'd like to split these out of t
>> > - We don't really support i586 in any meaningful matter
>>
>> What does this mean? Does Fedora not run on i586? Why was there a
>> mass-rebuild for i586 if it doesn't work?
>
> I know of *no one* in the community who tests on i586 to ensure that it
> works. (If this drags them out of silence
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Adam Jackson said:
>> Really we just need the moral equivalent of %exclude for autoreqprovs.
>
> Yeah, I said that years and years ago, but RPM didn't want it.
Just for info, PLD some time ago have included a run-time depende
> The desktop spin in F11 still had language groups, AFAIK.
Actually I removed them all at the very end of the F10 cycle (and then reverted
the change for the f10 branch of spin-kickstarts).
So they are only for localized spins and fedora-install-fedora.ks(?) now.
Jens
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Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:40:56PM +0200, Farkas Levente wrote:
>> Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 09:09:45PM +0200, Farkas Levente wrote:
so what's our position now?
it seems upstream wouldn't like to (and probably can't solve without
>>>
On 06/18/2009 10:13 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
On 18/06/09 04:09, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
I was more asking if there were perl packagers interested in
packaging/maintaining those packages. I can probibly find time to do it
sometime, but I thought someone else might be more quickly able to do
so. ;)
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:33 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:58:45 +0200
> Iain Arnell wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>> > perl(Geo::OSM:EntitiesV3)
>> > perl(Geo::OSM::OsmReaderV5)
>> > perl(Geo::OSM::EntitiesV5)
>> > perl(Geo::OSM::OsmReaderV3)
>>
On 06/18/2009 04:41 AM, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
>
> No particular reason with a traceable track record, but I've understood
> that anything that is not composed with pungi or livecd-tools will be
> blocked as they are the blessed and preferred tools for the job(s).
You use whatever tool you wa
On 18/06/09 04:09, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
I was more asking if there were perl packagers interested in
packaging/maintaining those packages. I can probibly find time to do it
sometime, but I thought someone else might be more quickly able to do
so. ;)
Thanks.
kevin
Would it be any benefit t
On 06/17/09 19:52, Bill Nottingham wrote:
P4 2.4Ghz Athlon 3400+Core2Duo E6850 Atom N270
march=i686/ -1.1% +2.0% +0.9% +0.6%
mtune=generic
march=i586/ +0.3% -0.3% -0.2% +1.3%
mtune=atom
march=i686/
On 06/17/09 21:17, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
- Atom is the only currently produced 32-bit x86 chip of note; optimize
for what's currently available
Just as an aside, can we do anything to help people identify whether
their hardware is 64bit
2009/6/18 Matej Cepl
> Josef Bacik, Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:27:34 -0400:
> > Btrfs will not be as stable as ext4 currently is for at least another
> > year, so it is still very much just for testing. I am very interested
> > in hearing about bugs and getting them fixed, however there will be
> > lit
Greetings,
We have a draft of test plan for Fedora 12. This test plan will be
used to verify installation of Fedora 12 on different hardware
platforms and gather installation test feedback. We have had some new
features in this test plan for Fedora 12,but some new features are
still under dis
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