Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-13 Thread Björn Persson
I flipped the switch to enforcing mode (except when the spam blocker crashed; there seems to be a race condition that I haven't tracked down yet.) Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-12 Thread Björn Persson
that might allow spammers to find them, not because it affects me but to be nice to other netizens who don't have as effectual spam blockers as I have. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Are conflicts in debuginfo packages OK?

2009-11-11 Thread Björn Persson
Jan Kratochvil wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:15:47 +0100, Björn Persson wrote: Generated files can be placed in separate subdirectories, for example /usr/src/debug/source tree name/%{_arch}. My patch uses there: /usr/src/debug/name-version-release.arch Duplicating the entire source tree

Re: F13 Naming: Leonidas - Constantine - New Name?

2009-11-10 Thread Björn Persson
inode0 wrote: With Fedora 12 just a few days from release it is time to begin the naming process for the next Fedora release. After F12 comes Print Screen of course. ;-) Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: Are conflicts in debuginfo packages OK?

2009-11-10 Thread Björn Persson
I should do this. /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/... Those are the ones I can't do anything about on my own, but perhaps the same exception could be applied there as in /usr/bin? Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Are conflicts in debuginfo packages OK?

2009-11-09 Thread Björn Persson
to avoid conflicts in debuginfo packages for libraries, but not for programs? I think I can avoid debuginfo conflicts in packages that provide only libraries, but maybe I shouldn't bother? Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list

Re: rawhide report: 20091104 changes - excluding noarch packages

2009-11-04 Thread Björn Persson
of the architectures that Fedora supports, which Python, Perl and Bash are as far as I can see. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Retiring ksensors, possibly id3lib as well?

2009-10-07 Thread Björn Persson
Lyos Gemini Norezel wrote: Is there valid, logical, reasoning to continue to support such old code? Are there any bugs that are so severe that we can't continue using the software? If not: Why throw out working software just because it's old? Björn Persson signature.asc Description

Re: Opinions on packaging ATLAS (for the x86 architecture)

2009-10-07 Thread Björn Persson
hardware and that shouldn't be an issue as the newer hardware should have more features in the CPU and not less. Unless you upgrade from old PowerPC Macs to new Intel Macs. :-) Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: Retiring ksensors, possibly id3lib as well?

2009-10-07 Thread Björn Persson
a new hole at any time. I'm much more nervous over programs like Squirrelmail, Firefox and Thunderbird, for which there is a steady stream of security fixes, because it indicates that the code is of low quality or that the design is fundamentally flawed. Björn Persson signature.asc Description

Re: dracut, or should booting a LiveCD touch the hard disk?

2009-10-04 Thread Björn Persson
! Asking for a passphrase and not specifying which passphrase is a very bad idea. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Bugzilla Desktop Client

2009-09-06 Thread Björn Persson
without my permission.) Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: dhclient and dhcp update require restart?

2009-09-01 Thread Björn Persson
. For those services I think a message should be displayed to inform the user that some of the updates will take effect the next time they log out. If it's a security update, the message should urge the user to log out and log in again as soon as possible. Björn Persson signature.asc Description

Re: Page size pain / localisation / possible F13 feature

2009-08-27 Thread Björn Persson
fun to think of. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: showing dependency trees

2009-08-26 Thread Björn Persson
Rajeesh K Nambiar wrote: 2009/8/24 Björn Persson bj...@xn--rombobjrn-67a.se: That's not all that quick. There ought to be a tool for this. Given a package name it should print the dependency tree for that package. It could have an option to suppress packages in the base set. Couldn't Yum

Re: showing dependency trees

2009-08-26 Thread Björn Persson
packaging is horribly broken. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: showing dependency trees

2009-08-24 Thread Björn Persson
Seth Vidal wrote: On Sun, 23 Aug 2009, Björn Persson wrote: I want to check whether a package drags in other packages unnecessarily. define unnecessarily? When you're forced to install package A to be able to install package E even though E doesn't use any of the functionality

Re: showing dependency trees

2009-08-24 Thread Björn Persson
to avoid listing glibc, like, seven hundred times over. It would also be nice if I could use it on a newly built package that isn't available in the Yum repositories. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora

Re: gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-24 Thread Björn Persson
if they want to. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: showing dependency trees

2009-08-23 Thread Björn Persson
Debayan Banerjee wrote: 2009/8/24 Björn Persson bj...@xn--rombobjrn-67a.se That's not all that quick. There ought to be a tool for this. Given a package name it should print the dependency tree for that package. It could have an option to suppress packages in the base set. Couldn't Yum

Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-26 Thread Björn Persson
can be dangerous. I completely trashed my Kmail configuration that way. Since then I'm more careful and test Fedora n+1 before I move the /home partition over. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list

Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-26 Thread Björn Persson
anaconda misparses fstab and is unable able to process bind-mounts nor nfs-mounts). * anaconda's depsolving failed when upgrading an FC10 + FC10-updates system due to NEVR issues. Those would be Anaconda issues, not Preupgrade issues – which makes them all the more serious. Björn Persson

Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Björn Persson
to apply my patch. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Björn Persson
. The only way to avoid Anaconda is to upgrade by Yum. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: RFE: FireKit

2009-07-24 Thread Björn Persson
and connect automatically. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: RFE: FireKit

2009-07-24 Thread Björn Persson
Colin Walters wrote: 2009/7/24 Björn Persson bj...@xn--rombobjrn-67a.se: Colin Walters wrote: If for example I enable desktop sharing before leaving work, then head to the airport, and log on there to WiFi, you really don't want the desktop sharing still enabled. Nor likely do you want

Re: RFE: FireKit

2009-07-24 Thread Björn Persson
holes programatically. Personally I would prefer not shipping insecure services by default, so that no firewall is needed. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com

Re: RFE: FireKit

2009-07-24 Thread Björn Persson
Matthew Woehlke wrote: Björn Persson wrote: Matthew Woehlke wrote: an iptables rule that allows stuff if there is a socket that will receive it, otherwise can drop Where's the point in that? Stealth? You might as well ask what is the point of using DROP (instead of REJECT) at all

Re: RFE: FireKit

2009-07-24 Thread Björn Persson
Matthew Woehlke wrote: Björn Persson wrote: That's obscurity, not security. Why is it people seem to have a problem with obscurity *on top of* security? What's wrong with making it as hard as possible for the bad guys? It could be because you're not actually making it any harder

weird debuginfo problem

2009-07-23 Thread Björn Persson
sources, where the .debug files referenced the sources in the build directory. After I changed %_topdir to /disk/data/home/beorn/rpm the debuginfo packages seem correct. Is this expected behaviour or should I file a bug report against RPM? Björn Persson signature.asc Description

Re: update mechanism for new releases

2009-06-24 Thread Björn Persson
are supported, right? If I upgrade from the DVD, or by Preupgrade, and it breaks, who should I send the pieces to? Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman

Re: F11: LVM over MD is broken. Switch back to F10?

2009-06-20 Thread Björn Persson
Gilboa Davara wrote: Far worse, the F9 workstations are reaching EOL, and I cannot install F10 on them due to known anaconda issue (That was fixed during the F11 devel cycle) so in short, I'm in deep ... Can you upgrade them by Yum? That should avoid any Anaconda bugs. Björn Persson

Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12

2009-06-15 Thread Björn Persson
skewed in various ways and none of us has a chance to know in what ways or how much. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Fedora 11 Test Day survey

2009-06-03 Thread Björn Persson
Fedora Test Days? If they cover some functionality that's particularly important to me or some less than common hardware that I have. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https

Re: Announcing Fedora Activity Day - Fedora Development Cycle 2009

2009-06-02 Thread Björn Persson
. Transfer only the RPM packages (taking advantage of hard links) and information on what packages are in each ISO image, and then recreate the ISO images at the destination. That way each package would only be transferred once, regardless of how many ISO images it occurs in. Björn Persson

Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-31 Thread Björn Persson
installs A. This is true for any two packages A and B as long as none of them has a hard requirement on the other. It seems to me that once you handle both of those cases correctly, it doesn't matter which order RPM chooses when the user installs both packages at once. Björn Persson signature.asc

Re: Why not to create Fedora-us and Fedora-non-us branches?

2009-05-27 Thread Björn Persson
, if you read what the convention and the national laws actually say, and yet they are granted by routine. Whether they would hold up in court doesn't matter much apparently. They are effective anyway. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora

Re: Removing %clean

2009-05-26 Thread Björn Persson
Tom spot Callaway wrote:     mkdir -p `dirname $RPM_BUILD_ROOT`\     mkdir $RPM_BUILD_ROOT\ Is that somehow better than just «mkdir -p $RPM_BUILD_ROOT»? Just curious. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora

Re: List of packages including country flags

2009-05-24 Thread Björn Persson
. So it's not just text that's being translated by the language selection. In that case I would suggest a recorded voice that says Should I speak English? and the equivalent in each language – if the intention really is that children who can't read should be able to choose their language. Björn