Re: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-15 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
uot;restart". Shut-down going to bed. Or keep the updates, till bedtime. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Bugzilla Desktop Client

2009-09-06 Thread Frank Murphy
On 06/09/09 11:50, nodata wrote: --snip-- >> > > Is the abrt data stored in bugzilla? > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ABRT -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Bugzilla Desktop Client

2009-09-06 Thread Frank Murphy
On 06/09/09 11:17, nodata wrote: --snip-- >>> check it at: >>> http://raj-khalsa.blogspot.com/2009/09/bugzilla-desktop-client-first-phase.html >>> >>> Working on this project is my first experience into the world of Open >>> Source. I'm very new to this field. So I'd appreciate your suggessions >>>

Re: Commas not allowed in License tags

2009-09-02 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
On 01/09/09 16:53, Iain Arnell wrote: Redistributable, no modification permitted "Redistributable though no modification permitted" ? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: enigmail for F-11's thunderbird ?

2009-08-08 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
On 08/08/09 17:09, Mail Lists wrote: --snip-- >>> >>> >> bash-4.0$ rpm -qa | grep thunderbird >> thunderbird-3.0-2.3.beta2.fc11.x86_64 >> thunderbird-enigmail-0.96a-0.3.cvs20090521.fc11.x86_64 >> > > Doh me - its -lightning- that doesn't work - sorry - my enigmail is > just fine (tho looks like y

Re: enigmail for F-11's thunderbird ?

2009-08-08 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
On 08/08/09 17:03, Mail Lists wrote: --snip-- > Since the mozilla builds do not provide x64 (which is a shame 64 bit > are basically the baseline now with core 2) and the plugins are not 64 > bit I am not using them - but if you use the 32 bit mozilla tb and > enigmail nightly from mozilla - they

Re: F-11: system-config-printer --> windows printer --> "You are not authorized to carry out the requested action"

2009-08-08 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
On 08/08/09 12:53, Gregory Hosler wrote: > Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: >> On 08/08/09 12:37, Gregory Hosler wrote: > > The printer is attached to a windows box. At the time of running > system-config-printer, > the windows box is on. > > This used to work ju

Re: enigmail for F-11's thunderbird ?

2009-08-08 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
On 08/08/09 12:39, Gregory Hosler wrote: > Hi all, > Works fine for me. Did you get TB from Mozilla? I believe enigmail is setup fro the Fedora packaged version of TB, which is on TB 3 Beta2 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/

Re: F-11: system-config-printer --> windows printer --> "You are not authorized to carry out the requested action"

2009-08-08 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
On 08/08/09 12:37, Gregory Hosler wrote: > Hi all. > > I'm hoping that I have missed something somewhere. > Wrong-list: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Network Printer > Select WIndows/Samba printer What's the printer attached to? -- fedora-devel-list mail

Well Done: Rawhide Setroubleshoot Bug Reporting

2009-08-04 Thread Frank Murphy
Excellent, take a bow. -- Regards, Frank jabber | msn | skype: frankly3d http://www.frankly3d.com -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: 2.6.31-0.112.rc4.git3.fc12 on F11: flashing intel xorg driver

2009-08-02 Thread Frank Murphy
On 02/08/09 11:02, Axel Thimm wrote: > > Do you have the URL of the blog? Thanks! > http://www.advogato.org/person/mjg59/ 27 Jul 2009 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: 2.6.31-0.112.rc4.git3.fc12 on F11: flashing intel xorg driver

2009-08-02 Thread Frank Murphy
On 02/08/09 10:41, Axel Thimm wrote: > Hi, > > in order to debug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514918 I > installed a rawhide kernel (2.6.31-0.112.rc4.git3.fc12). Unfortunately > X flashes all the time which makes working graphically very difficult > to impossible. > > But I need to

Re: F12 rpm on F11 (rpmlib(PayloadIsXz))

2009-08-01 Thread Frank Murphy
On 01/08/09 20:00, Axel Thimm wrote: > Hi, > > I want to test some features of the F12 kernel. Unfortunately rpm's > format change stand in the way: > I update to F12 rpm, it pulled in 2 other pkgs rpm-libs-4.7.1-1.fc12.x86_64 kernel-2.6.31-0.112.rc4.git3.fc12.x86_64 rpm-4.7.1-1.fc12.x86_64 kern

Re: openssh-blacklist - careless waste of space.

2009-07-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On 31/07/09 17:37, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 09:42 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > >> I think what is meant, it that the app is useless, without either >> web\media input. Which the user should not have to do to take full >> advantage of it. >

Re: openssh-blacklist - careless waste of space.

2009-07-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On 31/07/09 09:37, Jan Chadima wrote: - "Conrad Meyer" wrote: --snip-- Maybe I do not understand your question. Now the srpm and noarch.rpm also< 20kB. The build is normal koji build. User (or admin) run the program and then program synchronize the local database of keys to the inte

mcelog, Is it dead\dying?

2009-07-31 Thread Frank Murphy
Found: Merge review 2007 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226132 Bug: 2009 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507026 -- Regards, Frank jabber | msn | skype: frankly3d http://www.frankly3d.com -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redh

Re: new to list, first post

2009-07-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On 31/07/09 00:43, Doug Epling wrote: --snip-- It is apparent from reading all these great howdy-dos to my post, that there is a great difference of opinion on exactly what Fedora is. #1 That's it in a nutshell, Fedora is different things to different people. As I said, it will be interest

Re: Package Kit messages...

2009-07-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On 30/07/09 20:02, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: Hello, So I recently updated F11 and was told I needed to log off for the changes to take effect. When I click the yield type sign and select log off, I get the dialog for shutdown, restart, hibernate, suspend... Just a small suggestion, maybe I'm of

Re: Audio issue...

2009-07-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On 30/07/09 19:55, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:40:03 -0600, Nathanael wrote: Wrong mailing-list. it's being human, and I managed to be polite for once :) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-li

Re: Audio issue...

2009-07-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On 30/07/09 19:40, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: Hello, On an up to date F11 I'm seeing bizarre audio issues. Using Rhythmbox or the main volume control in the panel, if I adjust the volume, and then request the next song, my volume level is reset, and not necessarily reset to the same value. For e

Re: new to list, first post

2009-07-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On 30/07/09 15:30, wde...@mikrotec.com wrote: I am new to this list, and I am looking forward to hearing the discussion. --snip-- Is Fedora really gaining that much ground with every bi-yearly release to justify that pace? There is talk, just talk at the moment, for and ELC: Wiki: https://f

Re: fedora mini revisted

2009-07-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On 29/07/09 23:40, Bill McGonigle wrote: On 07/29/2009 02:47 PM, Ville-Pekka Vainio wrote: I'm not sure how extensions written in Javascript/XUL would be installed. There are rpmfusion packages for thunderbird extensions - thunderbird-enigmail being one I use which puts its files in: Mozilla

Re: fedora mini revisted

2009-07-29 Thread Frank Murphy
On 27/07/09 21:33, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, I'd like some thoughts, and some help so yes, I'm opening a can of worms :-) A while a go jkatz put out a call about support for netbooks, and I begun to step up and the idea behind Fedora Mini [1] was born before being sidetracked by shiny t

Re: Orphans on the chopping block for F12

2009-07-29 Thread Frank Murphy
On 28/07/09 23:42, Mat Booth wrote: I'm fast becoming a one man Java SIG. :-/ As soon as I know how, will help you. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-26 Thread Frank Murphy
On 26/07/09 14:01, Farkas Levente wrote: the question here why yum not upgrade openssl during the dvd update process. it's another yum problem (and it's happened with 3 of my systems). Did you have updates checked during upgrade from DVD? -- Regards, Frank -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: Chromium-3.0.195 fails to start

2009-07-20 Thread Frank Murphy
On 20/07/09 08:37, 梁穗隆 wrote: I download and install the latest rpm of chromium-3.0.195. But it fails to start. I hope the bug will be fixed soon. Not a Fedora Package. Maybe contact Google? Regards, Frank -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.

Re: Purging the F12 orphans

2009-07-14 Thread Frank Murphy
On 14/07/09 19:20, Richard June wrote: > I use azureus, and if it's reasonably popular, I'll happily maintain the > package. Is there information on whether or not people actually install these > packages? > I use it. That's as far as it goes at the moment. (keeps my ISP happy) Is there anyway

Re: How to contact Tomáš Bžatek?

2009-07-14 Thread Frank Murphy
On 14/07/09 18:33, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 14.07.2009, 13:26 -0400 schrieb Matthias Clasen: >>> Anybody knows how to contact Tomáš Bžatek? Is he still working for Red >>> Hat? I see he has a lot of open bugs (some of them are just getting >>> closed by the bugzappers) without a

Any Ruby Packagers Here?

2009-07-14 Thread Frank Murphy
I don't know ruby. But: http://tinyurl.com/9m4wzr is some ruby stuff to identify snippets of Code. Any ruby knowing people willing to package it? Regards, Frank -- jabber | msn | skype: frankly3d http://www.frankly3d.com -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https:

Wine was: Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-12 Thread Frank Murphy
On 12/07/09 03:35, David wrote: > > Would you please name "some very modern day applications that are > written for the windows platform" that will run in a Linux current > version of WINE? That will run under the currently available WINE in > Fedora 11. Names and versions. _Real_ applications. T

Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread Frank Murphy
On 11/07/09 10:41, Jussi Lehtola wrote: > > The x86_64 repo contains some multilib packages. If you don't specify > the wanted architecture when installing, yum might install both 32- and > 64-bit versions if available. Try adding the .x86_64 arch specifier, > e.g. instead of > # yum install foo

Re: Open Seat on the Fedora Packaging Committee

2009-07-10 Thread Frank Murphy
On 11/07/09 05:46, Richard June wrote: > I'm interested, I have packaged for Livna, YellowDog, and ran my own > repository that built for fedora, centos, yellowdog, and suse. > I think the plan was to send "Spot" an email ;) Regards, Frank -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@r

Re: an update to automake-1.11?

2009-07-09 Thread Frank Murphy
Take 5, take note of Spot's msg. Regards, Frank -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Anybody know how to contact Axel Thimm (again)?

2009-07-08 Thread Frank Murphy
On 08/07/09 18:51, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Jon Ciesla (l...@jcomserv.net) said: Is he not responding at axel.th...@atrpms.net? >>> That's his bugzilla email addess, so that seems to be the case :-( >> >> What about i...@fedoraproject.org? > > i...@fp.o is not Axel. ath...@fp.o just goe

Re: http://www.fsf.org/news/dont-depend-on-mono

2009-07-07 Thread Frank Murphy
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-legal-list/2009-July/msg00014.html Regards, Frank -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: http://www.fsf.org/news/dont-depend-on-mono

2009-07-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On 07/07/09 09:24, drago01 wrote: > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: >> Is there any contingency plans in place, >> for a worst case scenario if C#, is lost? >> FesCo? >> Legal? >> >> Is there any searchable parameter, >> to wor

Re: Better ways to format USB disks (file fomats etc)

2009-07-05 Thread Frank Murphy
snipped> Since I would only use this new HDD with my > different computers running fedora I thought I could use a more > modern file system like ext3 or ext4. This would allow me to have > larger files (and also maybe better performance). However, I would > like to have the extremely high usabili

Re: Feature proposal: Extended Life Cycle Support

2009-07-05 Thread Frank Murphy
On 05/07/09 07:20, Matej Cepl wrote: > Jeroen van Meeuwen, Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:30:46 +0200: > > > The problem I have with this whole project is that nobody explained me > well, why you folks interested in this don't join CentOS project? NIH? > > Matěj > Possibly because CentOS is not Fedora

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Frank Murphy
On 02/07/09 13:47, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 07/02/2009 06:15 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > >> Is there a book group? >> or what search parameter? >> Tried yum info "Dive Into Python" > > # yum info diveintopython > > Since we have more than one book,

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Frank Murphy
On 02/07/09 13:41, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> We ship books as packages? > > Yes and this is not even the first time. Dive Into Python has been in > the repo for ages already. > > Rahul > Is there a book group? or what search parameter? Tried yum info "Dive Into Python" Error: No matching P

Re: KSplice in Fedora?

2009-07-01 Thread Frank Murphy
On 01/07/09 17:38, Bill McGonigle wrote: On 06/30/2009 06:23 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: The average home user turns his/her computer off when going to sleep, so he/she reboots at least once per day. Unless they are into torrents\limewire, then it's 24/7. Their is quite a lot of normal users in

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26

2009-07-01 Thread Frank Murphy
On 01/07/09 00:22, inode0 wrote: So if the community agreed to these two changes, which seem reasonable to me, then what? Well, I think at this point we hit the real wall in this debate, but I really don't think we can avoid the subsequent requests for more equal treatment by refusing to call G

Re: FAO: Programmers Quick Q?

2009-06-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On 30/06/09 03:41, Kevin Kofler wrote: Another big issue is what -devel packages to ship. A KDE application developer will have little to no use for GNOME -devel packages and vice-versa. The old Developer spin had only the GNOME -devel stuff on it (it didn't even ship KDE at all), #1 A Poll

Re: FAO: Programmers Quick Q?

2009-06-29 Thread Frank Murphy
On 29/06/09 17:17, Mat Booth wrote: As a software engineer, I am also interested in making Fedora the best development distro out there (I do this by packaging Eclipse plug-ins) and I think the formation of a SIG to look after development tools That's why the sig should come first. but I'

Re: FAO: Programmers Quick Q?

2009-06-29 Thread Frank Murphy
Any preference? May I request that you gather a community and get some more progress *before* creating yet another mailing list? We have enough dead or almost dead mailing lists. Adding more isn't useful. Rahul Hopefully after seeing this, some may come on board. If not, then "Build it a

FAO: Programmers Quick Q?

2009-06-29 Thread Frank Murphy
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Development#Communication with this in mind. Have a ticket open for a new m-l. devel-apps@ or programming-sig@ Any preference? Frank -- jabber | msn | skype: frankly3d http://www.frankly3d.com http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Development -- fedora-devel

Re: http://www.fsf.org/news/dont-depend-on-mono

2009-06-29 Thread Frank Murphy
On 29/06/09 09:42, King InuYasha wrote: I don't think you need to really worry about Mono itself. If you really are worried about Microsoft suing your brains out, just remove mono-web and mono-winforms. You don't even need those two for most packaged Mono apps on Linux. Only if you want to run

http://www.fsf.org/news/dont-depend-on-mono

2009-06-29 Thread Frank Murphy
Is there any contingency plans in place, for a worst case scenario if C#, is lost? FesCo? Legal? Is there any searchable parameter, to work out what something is coded in\depending on (code wise) This is not the normal " mono" post. I hope, I worded it enough, that my concern is: Fedora and

Re: Fedora 11 wireless-tools yum erase?

2009-06-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On 24/06/09 13:30, TK009 wrote: Remember that ultimately Fedora _does_ grant you access to that level of control, should you choose to use it: rpm -e --nodeps is available and does what it says on the tin. The trade-off is you get the responsibility along with the power. :) Good idea As th

Re: Why do we need FC version attached to the package name?

2009-06-22 Thread Frank Murphy
On 22/06/09 08:32, Jesse Keating wrote: Maybe, freeze all updates nearing a GA, And keep them frozen indefinitely? -- Jes Duh!, forgot the coffee. That would get the early adopters, then nearing EOL of current eg 9. Only allow updates for 11. Same when 10 is EOL. Just update most recent

Re: Why do we need FC version attached to the package name?

2009-06-22 Thread Frank Murphy
On 22/06/09 08:24, Jesse Keating wrote: That's messed up. We used to check just before release time that this situation never occured. It should probably be added to the rel-eng release checklist if it isn't there already. Dave Not possible while we allow people to keep making updates t

Re: Fedora 11 wireless-tools yum erase?

2009-06-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On 21/06/09 12:59, Martin Sourada wrote: I'm not sure about most of these, but I'd like to note that wpa-supplicant is not a wireless-only tool (that one of your sentences seem to imply). I use it at dorm to authenticate to wired network(as well as at home to authenticate to home wifi network).

Re: Fedora 11 wireless-tools yum erase?

2009-06-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On 21/06/09 12:57, Michal Schmidt wrote: Someone already requested this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=480558 Good Why does it bother you? The package is not that big. It's not about size, it's about making sense. No wireless, therefore why wireless installed. Michal F

Fedora 11 wireless-tools yum erase?

2009-06-21 Thread Frank Murphy
Why does yum erase wireless-tools want to: Removing for dependencies: anaconda firstboot rhpl system-config-(boot,date,date-docs,firewall, firewall-tui,keyboard,kickstart,language,lvm, network,network-tui,rootpassword,users,users-docs) This is a wired desktop, that has absolutely no need for wire

The Devel Sig Wiki

2009-06-20 Thread Frank Murphy
I've had no further replies to: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-June/msg00036.html So can I take it nobody minds if I add my name to the sig https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Development#Participants and try get this going again? Frank -- jabber | msn | skype: frankly3

Re: Announcing LXDE Fedora Remix 11

2009-06-19 Thread Frank Murphy
Can this be stopped. It is not helping. Please Frank -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: gpsdrive and some perl packaging needed

2009-06-18 Thread Frank Murphy
On 18/06/09 04:09, Kevin Fenzi wrote: I was more asking if there were perl packagers interested in packaging/maintaining those packages. I can probibly find time to do it sometime, but I thought someone else might be more quickly able to do so. ;) Thanks. kevin Would it be any benefit t

Re: Thoughts? Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On 17/06/09 10:17, Paul Howarth wrote: Supposing I have a bunch of boxes I want to install, most of which have DVD drives but a few are CD only. My "preferred method" would be to install via DVD but I'd still like a CD install method for the other boxes. Paul. If networked do a net-install.

Thoughts? Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-17 Thread Frank Murphy
We've seen arguments, for and against. Statistics and Numbers, thinking! Get the community involved. *Find Out* As I've stated earlier: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-June/msg01015.html Run a poll, get the fp.o to run a poll, and blog\twitter etc. *Don't ask pointed que

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12? DO NOT VOTE for Kevin Kofler!

2009-06-16 Thread Frank Murphy
On 16/06/09 18:30, Seth Vidal wrote: okay. chill out, everyone. There's more than enough demagoguery to go around. -sv +10 Take the night off everyone, before hitting reply. Been there, done that Frank -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.c

Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12

2009-06-16 Thread Frank Murphy
On 16/06/09 04:56, Matt Domsch wrote: with a BIOS a little over 5 years old. Is it long in the tooth? sure. Is it still very functional? you bet. I wouldn't go so far as to require sse2 in such a move. I would have to agree with Matt on this. I have put fedora on boxes for people with

Re: Porting amarok-1.4 to F11

2009-06-15 Thread Frank Murphy
On 15/06/09 19:02, Ingvar Hagelund wrote: As one of many, I'm the semi-happy owner of an Apple iPhone. The iPhone and the iPod Touch's media player db is well supported under Linux, using tools like libgpod, and iFuse or sshfs for access. Until recently, one could use amarok as a front end to

Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12

2009-06-15 Thread Frank Murphy
On 15/06/09 18:58, Bill Nottingham wrote: Jon Ciesla (l...@jcomserv.net) said: PLEASE do not do this. If we stop supporting Pentium II and Pentium III, I have to buy a whole lot of new hardware. Dead serious. Could we do i686 as a secondary arch, and swap with i386 further in the future? W

Re: No bluetooth for PulseAudio nonbelievers

2009-06-15 Thread Frank Murphy
Thanks Lennart, I really wish Skype would update their crap Did you contact them? Frank -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: What I HATE about F11

2009-06-15 Thread Frank Murphy
On 15/06/09 01:34, Lennart Poettering wrote: what will smolt claim next? that santa claus exists? You mean he doesn't :( Frank -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: What I HATE about F11

2009-06-15 Thread Frank Murphy
On 15/06/09 01:24, Guido Grazioli wrote: That said, I agree the wheel group should be enabled with sudo, though I disagree that the initial install user should be automatically added to it. But then again, I hate sudo :P I do most scripting that requires root access via root

Re: Split Media - A use case

2009-06-15 Thread Frank Murphy
On 15/06/09 08:15, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: I'm providing severl friends and relatives with CD install images via these genned iso's. So at least 5 more CD sets would have been fetched if I didn't do this. What was the underlying reason for the CDS' over DVD\LiveCD? Frank -- fedora-devel-li

Re: What I HATE about F11

2009-06-14 Thread Frank Murphy
On 14/06/09 16:07, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: However I agree with you that samba is always a pain to setup on new systems. I do not hate it, but I wish this had been made easier. Logging into X as root? I can't comment on this as I didn't ever feel the need to do that. I didn't know it was prevented

Re: What I HATE about F11

2009-06-14 Thread Frank Murphy
On 14/06/09 12:10, Manuel Wolfshant wrote: To be honest, I like the Ubuntu way of adding a sudoers entry for the first user that gets created. Then suggest it as a feature for F12 Frank -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fed

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-14 Thread Frank Murphy
On 14/06/09 04:47, Jesse Keating wrote: Don't be clouded by who is requesting it. Releng qa anaconda et al would love to stop doing split cds. Less confusion on what to download would be appreciated by many too. We are one of the last distros to still do cd media outside of live media. Is this a

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On 13/06/09 19:53, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: ----- "Frank Murphy" wrote: Just curious. But if a user has bandwidth problems, how is\are mutiple CD's going to help, or is it purely on hardware grounds, no dvd-rom. Does no one remember what happened last tim

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On 13/06/09 19:22, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: - "Itamar Reis Peixoto" wrote: the user's still able to install using netboot.iso. Yeah some guy in a mud hut with no DSL only a 56k modem, Power 4 hours a day... NetInst FAIL. Just curious. But if a user has bandwidth problems, how i

Re: rpmconf - tool to handle rpmnew and rpmsave files

2009-06-12 Thread Frank Murphy
On 12/06/09 17:00, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 14:30 +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: I've been tired for some time of watching rpmnew and rpmsave files. I've been looking for some tool, but did not find any, so I wrote my own. http://miroslav.suchy.cz/fedora/rpmconf/rpmconf Befor

Re: x86_64 kernel + i586 F11 userspace + yum

2009-06-11 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)
Paul Jakma wrote: On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Warren Togami wrote: setarch i386 chroot /path/to/i586root Do this and yum will behave properly. Ok, that should improve things if I want to do a series of installs. Thanks! It's still extra typing though. Also, any ideas on having the x86_64 kernel

BlueJ Advice Needed

2009-06-09 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)
Hoping to package BlueJ. http://www.bluej.org/about/what.html Q1: http://www.bluej.org/download/download.html Downloadable jar file, (and use contents of) or http://www.bluej.org/download/source-download.html Contains mix of Win\Mac\*nix stuff in the source zip Q2: The third party bits that are

Re: Interested in scanning?

2009-06-05 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)
Bastien Nocera wrote: Heya, Yesterday, I was browsing Ubuntu's "Blueprints" for their next release, and saw this: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-karmic-gnomescan gnome-scan is already packaged by Deji, but I gather that more integration work could be done to make set

Re: Maintainer Responsibilities

2009-06-04 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)
Kevin Kofler wrote: Ralf Corsepius wrote: Me thinks, your are just being lazy and are trying to rudely push around Fedora's user base. "customer-friendliness" is something entirely different from your attitude. Fedora's "customers" aren't paying us anything, That's the way it was\is setup

Re: Maintainer Responsibilities

2009-06-04 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)
Matej Cepl wrote: but I think if somebody skilled in programming Perl (hint, hint) would work on https:// bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=189813 (and its upstream counterparts), situation of our reporters COULD improve. Matěj Is it time then to setup programming-l...@fedoraproject.org

Packager = Programmer?

2009-06-04 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)
Does trying to become a packager. Involve being currently a Developer, as in Programming skills\certification, whether Perl\Python\c++ etc. Frank -- msn: frankly3d skype: frankly3d Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List Still Learning, Unicode where possible -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fed

Re: KPackageKit fail

2009-06-04 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)
Valent Turkovic wrote: I'm testing Rawhide with latest updates and KPackageKit fails to do updates, I get this error log: http://fpaste.org/paste/13851 It is works for you haven't tested it please do, if it works for you then ignore this message, if not then reply if you need some more feedback

Re: Fedora 11 Test Day survey

2009-06-03 Thread Frank Murphy
James Laska wrote: === 1. How did you find out about Fedora Test Days? Test-List 2. Was sufficient documentation available to help you participate in a Fedora Test Day? If not, what did you find missing or in need of improvement? Yes 3. Did you enco

Re: Is The Devel Sig alive or Dead?

2009-05-31 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)
Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 05/31/2009 05:42 PM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) wrote: Lat meeting log seems to be: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Development#Communication It's not active anymore. The Fedora Development custom spin has also been dropped. Guessing lack of Interest? So

Is The Devel Sig alive or Dead?

2009-05-31 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)
Lat meeting log seems to be: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Development#Communication Frank -- msn: frankly3d skype: frankly3d Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List Still Learning, Unicode where possible -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/ma

Re: Why not to create Fedora-us and Fedora-non-us branches?

2009-05-31 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)
Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 05/31/2009 03:52 PM, Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) wrote: Stephen Gallagher wrote: Furthermore, it is not just "illegal spin", I don't know about illegal but the name "Russian Fedora" is a violation of the Fedora trademark guidelines, clearly. Rahul There

Re: Mono (& Moonlight) Licensing? Revisited

2009-05-31 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 05/31/2009 12:42 PM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) wrote: http://www.itwire.com/content/view/25215/1090/1/1 Not intending to burn the house down. But, going by this article: http://www.itwire.com/content/view/25215/1090/1/1 Dated 25th May. Unease sets in. It is not clear

Mono (& Moonlight) Licensing? Revisited

2009-05-31 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)
http://www.itwire.com/content/view/25215/1090/1/1 Not intending to burn the house down. But, going by this article: http://www.itwire.com/content/view/25215/1090/1/1 Dated 25th May. Unease sets in. Frank -- msn: frankly3d skype: frankly3d Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List Still Learning, Un

Fedora Mips\Arm Processors?

2009-05-30 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)
Looking at following: http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2009/05/the-mips-processor-and-the-150-1.html How is Fedora in regards to running mips\arm processors? Frank -- msn: frankly3d skype: frankly3d Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List Still Learning, Unicode where possible -- fedora-devel-list m

Devel-Spins F11\Rawhide?

2009-05-29 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)
What is the most recent Devel-Spin? Will there be one for GA? Frank -- msn: frankly3d skype: frankly3d Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List Still Learning, Unicode where possible -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Frank Murphy
Muayyad AlSadi wrote: - yum as I said I demand for a list even if it's with false positives Couldn't it be the job of those who care to maintain this list in the first place ? no problem, just give me a procedural way other than watching all packages in pkgdb [so that I catch t

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)
Dr. Diesel wrote: If they do get installed, it would probably not be an accident. Whatever the moral\cultural situation Frank Yes! Use Firefox for example where you can end up on a "questionable site" by accident! That is true, but would not something like DansGuardian, b

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)
Muayyad AlSadi wrote: in case you have accepted to put such packages in the repo please maintain a wiki page listing all of them so that we can add exclude for all of them in fedora .repo files sorry, but our users trust us [in ojuba.org spin] to provide packages that respect our family values

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-28 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi My packaging survey turned up a interesting suggestion https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-May/msg01809.html We don't currently have any guidelines covering this but considering the Debian action to hot babe http://lwn.net/Articles/113644/ I wanted to as

Re: Why not to create Fedora-us and Fedora-non-us branches?

2009-05-26 Thread Frank Murphy
Bill Nottingham wrote: Peter Lemenkov (lemen...@gmail.com) said: ... what exactly are you trying to accomplish? Make it legal to ship MP3 code? Sorry, those are patented in Europe as well. Patents are *currently* illegal in Europe, (though they may be granted). The patents offices being