Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-03 Thread Joerg Schilling
Ankur Sinha sanjay.an...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like another thread going the wrong way. I just wanted to know if wodim is usable (i mean without wasting dvds like its doing currently for me). From the discussion, I feel it's still buggy and therefore I'm going to shift to another program

Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-03 Thread Joerg Schilling
Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com wrote: The person from the GNOME project just verified that he attacks people who are helpful. He does not seem to be important. The person being Olav Vitters, one of the GNOME bugmasters, and that was at my request, after you polluted the GNOME

Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-03 Thread Joerg Schilling
Julian Sikorski beleg...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/02/2009 03:47 PM, Denis Leroy wrote: On 11/02/2009 07:18 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: That may be true, but since cdrecord is not shippable, it's a pretty vacuous truth. Out of curiosity, was that just because of the GPL2-CDDL mix ? Or was

Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-03 Thread Joerg Schilling
King InuYasha ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing I can figure out from this conversation is that the CDDL is supposed to be incompatible with the GPL. If that's the case, why not simply ask the original creator to kindly dual license it? First, it is definitely wrong that the CDDL was

Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-03 Thread Joerg Schilling
Josephine Tannhäuser josephine.tannhau...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/11/3 Conrad Meyer ceme...@u.washington.edu In this case, upstream (wodim) is a fork of Joerg Schilling's project. Wodim was forked from cdrecord because Joerg is crazy. Joerg likes to call wodim the broken fork and

Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-03 Thread Joerg Schilling
Mat??j Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote: Dne 3.11.2009 05:22, Ankur Sinha napsal(a): I just wanted to know if wodim is usable (i mean without wasting dvds like its doing currently for me). From the discussion, I feel it's still buggy and therefore I'm going to shift to another program (maybe

Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-03 Thread Joerg Schilling
Julian Sikorski beleg...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, putting the ad personam arguments aside, there are two important facts: - cdrecord is still under active development, but there might be a problem with distributability (Sun lawyers say there is not, but I guess There is no problem with

Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-03 Thread Joerg Schilling
Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: There are some people who claim that there is a legal problem with the original software but none of the persons who spread this claim (including people from redhat) did ever make a valid legal statement that could confirm

Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-03 Thread Joerg Schilling
Josephine Tannhäuser josephine.tannhau...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/11/3, Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de: Josephine Tannhäuser josephine.tannhau...@googlemail.com wrote: It seems that you have not been there. I was there and I was shocked about your behavior

Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-03 Thread Joerg Schilling
Tom \spot\ Callaway tcall...@redhat.com wrote: Since nothing has changed, please consider this thread closed. Continued postings will be handled under the moderation policies. So let us conclude: - Redhat continues to distribute cdrkit although there are known legal problems

Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-03 Thread Joerg Schilling
Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote: You have refused to cite specific legal problems with cdrkit, so there are no known legal problems that anyone can see. The proper reporting method is bugzilla.redhat.com; can you point to where you reported them? It seems that you did never check this

Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-03 Thread Joerg Schilling
Simo Sorce sso...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-11-03 at 12:58 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: The conclusion of all lawyers I did talk to, is that there is no legal problem with original source. There is no problem with the **source**, but the binary results most probably cannot

Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-03 Thread Joerg Schilling
King InuYasha ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: While it is true that the GPL permits linking to CDDL libraries, that is only in the case if the library is a system library, which is a library that is NECESSARY for working on a particular OS. This is usually how it is Please show me the exact place

Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
I've filed a bug[1] against wodim not burning dvds correctly. While browsing through another bug[2] on wodim, I came across this comment[3]. wodim is completely unmaintained since May 6th 2007, don't expect to see any fixes anytime soon as long as Redhat continues to distribute wodim instead of

Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
On the other hand trying to build Jörg's stuff isn't easy on Fedora. And might not even work as he likes to use a interface that was depreciated a while back for talking to the cd/dvd drives. I would guess that you are not informed correctly. My software easily compiles on more than 30 different

Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
That may be true, but since cdrecord is not shippable, it's a pretty vacuous truth. The solution is obviously to fix the bug and help revive upstream, or else host a development tree on fh if upstream stays idle. Note that is is just the other way: It is cdrkit that is undistributable as it is

Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com wrote: I guess it wasn't good enough for you to get booted out of the GNOME Bugzilla? Well, there are always some bad guys who don't like to see people who help users. The person from the GNOME project just verified that he attacks people who are helpful. He