Re: Mono.Cecil monodevelop-debugger-mdb

2010-01-03 Thread Jud Craft
That was definitely informative. Thanks for the explanations. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Mono.Cecil monodevelop-debugger-mdb

2010-01-01 Thread Jud Craft
No, we should patch the broken packages to work with the current Mono.Cecil. And upstream deserves a beating for this attitude. :-/ Why am I not surprised this is coming from the M$-loving Mono community? Shouldn't Fedora take upstream's design into account? It's their software, after all.

Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

2009-11-30 Thread Jud Craft
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Bojan Smojver wrote: Rudolf Kastl writes: intel (i965) works fine... You are lucky. Major regressions there in F-12. On my hardware, this used to work when nomodeset was passed to kernel. Now, it doesn't any more. With KMS, on the other hand,

Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

2009-11-30 Thread Jud Craft
For the Qt-demo rendering issue on intel, it is fixed by Qt 4.6. Good to hear! -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Pulseaudio in F12

2009-11-29 Thread Jud Craft
I have two sound cards installed: one onboard and another PCI. The PCI, the one I do no use very much, works fine. The onboard is the one which does not save the volumes. Every time I call an application its master and pcm volume go to the maximum (I see the sliders going to the top in

crazy Xrandr/XOrg automatic display configuration.

2009-11-25 Thread Jud Craft
I assumed, via the release notes, that the new Xorg operates in extend-desktop mode by default. However, I'm not sure. When I hook up a running Fedora laptop to a projector, my desktop is extended. Very nice. When I hook up the same projector and then -boot- my Fedora laptop, I am set to

Re: crazy Xrandr/XOrg automatic display configuration.

2009-11-25 Thread Jud Craft
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: This is intentional. Plymouth is rendering the same boot animation on all heads; not sure we can do much better. Oh, I don't mind that at all. That's awesome. I understand that clone mode is excellent for Plymouth. But after Fedora

Re: crazy Xrandr/XOrg automatic display configuration.

2009-11-25 Thread Jud Craft
Oh, I misunderstood. Yeah, it should remember the previous configuration you had with this combination of outputs. This information is stored in ~/.config/monitors.xml. Right. I guess what I'm saying is...it doesn't seem to. The very first time I booted my laptop with this (800x600)

Re: crazy Xrandr/XOrg automatic display configuration.

2009-11-25 Thread Jud Craft
Please pardon my answering everyone in one email. To Adam: I have not used my BIOS. The Intel 965 card on my Toshiba laptop has no BIOS options. I can't even change the default scaling from full-panel to off. It's really sad. The OS has to do everything in this laptop, since the BIOS

Re: crazy Xrandr/XOrg automatic display configuration.

2009-11-25 Thread Jud Craft
lt;clonegt;yeslt;/clonegt; line. Every config (including for the 800x600 projector) sets clone to no. Sorry for the bad escape code. I meant there are no cloneyes/clone lines at all. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: crazy Xrandr/XOrg automatic display configuration.

2009-11-25 Thread Jud Craft
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: so, um, you didn't read it, then. =) he simply suggested connecting the external monitor at grub stage rather than having it plugged in at BIOS stage, to see if that made a difference. Oh, curses! Right, sorry about that. When I go back

missing help files for Evolution and Nautilus in F12 Beta?

2009-11-07 Thread Jud Craft
In F12, the GNOME Help Program (I think it's called Yelp, now?) shows an error when trying to access Help in either Nautilus or Evolution. Do these programs not have help available? Or has it simply not been packaged for the F12 beta? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

updating F11 GNOME release

2009-11-02 Thread Jud Craft
This is unfortunately not actually a helpful topic, but I am deathly curious. Will GNOME be stuck at 2.26 for the rest of the F11 cycle? Or are updates in the works, just not ready yet? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: updating F11 GNOME release

2009-11-02 Thread Jud Craft
@Judd, wait for the F12 release, it's the best 'update' and it is not ready yet! I hope so. I'm not sure anything can top Fedora 8. Hard to explain how much I enjoyed that distribution. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-26 Thread Jud Craft
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: AFAICT, the native LLVM backends don't have that problem. The real problem with C++ is that Clang's C++ support is experimental and incomplete, so you're stuck with llvm-g++. I thought that C doesn't have any crazy name or symbol or

Re: Fedora 12 Beta

2009-10-25 Thread Jud Craft
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 3:19 AM, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Yes. Development releases of Fedora have a large number of debugging stuff enabled. I really can't tell if you're joking. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-25 Thread Jud Craft
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Actually, the ABI issue is only if you use the C code generator, not the native ones. I'm not sure I understand. How can LLVM-C be ABI-incompatible with plain GCC-C? I thought that C doesn't have any crazy name or

Re: Status of touchpad support in F12 for kdm?

2009-10-19 Thread Jud Craft
I suppose at least this does work even if upstream policy is not to make this available - however for a newbie just installing F11 and wanting this available it is not obvious from install notes or release notes as far as I remember? It's important to note... The reason why you can't

Re: Updates-testing (was: Re: thunderbird upgrade - wtf?)

2009-10-14 Thread Jud Craft
What about using LVM to store a pre-update snapshot of your distro? (Separate root partition from /home and other stuff, of course. Roll back root). Highly inconvenient, but it would theoretically work... On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Wed,

Re: Updates-testing (was: Re: thunderbird upgrade - wtf?)

2009-10-14 Thread Jud Craft
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: Newer builds with patches, reverted code with epoch, newer upstream release to fix the mistake upstream, etc..  To say that there is no way to fix a mistake is insulting. I'd like to logic-link here with the following... On Wed, Oct 14,

Re: Updates-testing (was: Re: thunderbird upgrade - wtf?)

2009-10-14 Thread Jud Craft
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Jud Craft wrote: They both suffer from the same problem -- new packages may cause changes in data that are not reversibly compatible with the old package, and mere package rollback is not useful. Of course, I imagine that any rollback system that doesn't

Re: Updates-testing (was: Re: thunderbird upgrade - wtf?)

2009-10-14 Thread Jud Craft
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: There's no perfect. we're just going for 'good enough', really. Ah, so package-rollback is shipped as the halfway-effective crutch, but it's so easy to implement we might as well offer it anyway solution. Or, the excellent implementation of

Re: RFC: Kernel changes that may affect desktops

2009-06-30 Thread Jud Craft
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Matthew Garrettm...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 05:48:44PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: You have to tell us what we need to change in KDE and give us the necessary time to adapt, even if it means you have to wait for Fedora 13 to push this change.

Re: RFC: Kernel changes that may affect desktops

2009-06-30 Thread Jud Craft
Darn straight. I stand corrected. On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Adam Jacksona...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 13:42 -0500, Jud Craft wrote: Fedora's deployment of that work, however, is another matter.  Does Fedora offer a variety of environments with a set of common features

Re: How to enable xorg.conf in F-11

2009-06-11 Thread Jud Craft
I think the Fedora release notes mention that if you run the tool system-config-display, it will automatically generate an xorg.conf for you. From the Common F11 Bugs, under Miscellaneous problems with Intel graphics adapters : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#intel-misc-gfx

Re: Maintainer Responsibilities

2009-06-04 Thread Jud Craft
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote: David Tardon wrote: Let me try another analogy: How do you handle health problems? You'll visit your doctor. You'll expect him to identify the problem and to take appropriate steps to solve your issue--that may well