On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 04:44 -0500, Jens Petersen wrote:
In F12 we shipped yum-presto in @gnome-desktop - a kind of a compromise I
guess.
Presto/deltarpm is very useful for machines with low net connectivity to
mirrors
but enough resources to rebuild rpms.
But yum-presto is not a desktop
On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 20:47 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
I wrote up this using the Feature template, but I don't guess it's
really that much of a feature:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/RawhideRepoSubpackage
(except in that it needs coordination across the distro and docs
updates,
I intend to give up the following packages:
fedorainfinity-backgrounds
libbeagle
libcroco
libexif
libspectre
preferences-menus
Any takers ?
Matthias
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On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 15:54 +0100, Mathieu Bridon wrote:
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 15:37, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote:
I intend to give up the following packages:
fedorainfinity-backgrounds
I've been using it since Fedora 8 (never liked any other Fedora
wallpaper as much
On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 09:46 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote:
Matthias Clasen wrote:
I intend to give up the following packages:
libspectre
I can help out here.
Already sold to Marek, but I'm sure he'll welcome you as a comaintainer
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On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 16:59 +0100, Thomas Janssen wrote:
2010/1/5 Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com:
I intend to give up the following packages:
libexif
I will take this one.
Thanks, its yours if you take it:
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/libexif
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I need some kind soul to review at-spi2-atk and pyatspi for me, both of
which are part of the new at-spi2 accessibility stack. The bugs are
here:
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=544629
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=544630
Thanks, Matthias
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On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 01:22 +, Paul wrote:
The build is producing the following
mkdir
-p
/home/paul/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/monodevelop-boo-2.2-1.fc13.i386/usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/BooBinding/locale/zh_CN/LC_MESSAGES/
cp '../build/locale/zh_CN/LC_MESSAGES/monodevelop-boo.mo'
On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 07:38 -0500, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 07:03:13AM -0500, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
It would be nice if you folks add these little explanations as
comments next to the patches of the gcc SPEC file.
As some of you may know, the accessibility framework is getting ported
from CORBA/ORBit to DBus [1]. The (ambitious) upstream plan is to have
this transition completed in time for GNOME 2.30, ie within the F-13
timeframe.
This is a big effort, and the accessibility guys need all the help they
On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 22:39 -0600, Mel Chua wrote:
Because it's brainstorm time and I'm procrastinating on FUDCon
accounting... ;)
* FWN podcast,
http://www.braincache.de/wp/2009/11/15/fwn-fedora-weekly-news-201.
* the http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list might
have
Trying to respond to several points that were raised in this thread...
1. If live cds are as indispensable as you claim they are, it will be
relatively straightforward to produce them for F13 simply by omitting
the big items that will push us over the cd size limit, ie OpenOffice,
example
On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 12:33 -0500, Jud Craft wrote:
I assumed, via the release notes, that the new Xorg operates in
extend-desktop mode by default.
However, I'm not sure.
When I hook up a running Fedora laptop to a projector, my desktop is
extended. Very nice.
When I hook up the same
On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 13:00 -0500, Jud Craft wrote:
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
This is intentional. Plymouth is rendering the same boot animation on
all heads; not sure we can do much better.
Oh, I don't mind that at all. That's awesome. I understand
On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 13:13 -0500, Jud Craft wrote:
Oh, I misunderstood. Yeah, it should remember the previous configuration
you had with this combination of outputs. This information is stored in
~/.config/monitors.xml.
Right. I guess what I'm saying is...it doesn't seem to.
The very
On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 11:26 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
One of the important features of sudo is its ability to log elevated-access
actions to syslog.
Userhelper similarly logs actions, like so: userhelper[26491]: running
'/usr/share/system-config-users/system-config-users ' with root
On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 11:48 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:
when the policies are updated it is policy kit that has to be involved.
polkitd is running, at least.
That might be ok to log, indeed. polkitd need not be running, though. It
is activated as needed.
It would make sense for polkitd to
On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 12:29 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
1. In fact, a PAM-backed authority for PolicyKit might be interesting and
useful -- but there's a tangent.
What do you think PolicyKit is using for authentication ?
See
On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 13:18 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
Like I said, this is a tangent, and I'm certainly not expecting anyone to
work on this. But it'd be cool if they did.
Just as everybody else is struggling to get away from pam's awful
apis...I don't think this would be a step forward;
On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 16:58 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
Thx, btw, I thought there was a plan to unite the dbus interfaces for
kwallet and g-keyring.
AFAIK, that hasn't been implemented yet. :-(
Kevin Kofler
I believe the gnome-keyring implementation lives
On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 14:08 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
It's not QA's role to define exactly what the security policy should
look like or what it should cover, but from the point of view of
testing, what we really need are concrete requirements. The policy does
not have to be immediately
On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 18:31 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:
Otherwise we open ourselves up to a less-secure-by-default posture in an
average install.
We've been in that position in the past and it is not a favorable place to
be.
We should just avoid to sink tons of QA resources in verifying
On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 19:36 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 18:31 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:
Otherwise we open ourselves up to a less-secure-by-default posture in an
average install.
We've been in that position in the past
On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 19:54 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:
We should not be forcing the choices for the desktop spin on everyone who
installs a pkg in the distribution.
Sure, I agree.
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On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 14:03 +0100, Nils Philippsen wrote:
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 01:58 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 11/10/2009 01:58 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
I'd like to retire kudzu for F-13.
Why?
- There are places where it almost certainly does not work with current
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 08:45 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 11/10/2009 08:43 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
On Mon, November 9, 2009 1:28 pm, Bill Nottingham wrote:
- It's so deprecated that one of its replacements (HAL) has since been
frozen and deprecated
Okay, I really can't keep
On Sat, 2009-11-07 at 11:48 -0500, Jud Craft wrote:
In F12, the GNOME Help Program (I think it's called Yelp, now?) shows
an error when trying to access Help in either Nautilus or Evolution.
Do these programs not have help available? Or has it simply not been
packaged for the F12 beta?
The
On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 16:44 -0500, Jud Craft wrote:
This is unfortunately not actually a helpful topic, but I am deathly curious.
Will GNOME be stuck at 2.26 for the rest of the F11 cycle? Or are
updates in the works, just not ready yet?
We've updated GNOME in F11 to 2.26.3.
We don't do
On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 17:31 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
It seems, whether you use the bottom panel, or change the top panel to
be the bottom (speaking after an initial rawhide install), and go to
properties and change the color of it, it crashes. It logs you out of
gnome and into gdm, then
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 18:20 +0200, Linus Walleij wrote:
Is anyone actively working on multiseat?
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Multiseat
The necessary infrastructure for multiseat is (slowly) being developed
in ConsoleKit and gdm branches upstream.
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On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 17:11 -0400, Steve Grubb wrote:
On Friday 02 October 2009 01:56:21 pm Jon Stanley wrote:
Meeting summary
---
* incomplete features (jds2001, 17:04:12)
* AGREED: Lower Process Capabilities is retained, dbus changes are
being committed to
On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 18:17 -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 14:47 -0400, James Laska wrote:
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526535 (jlaska, 16:17:50)
* AGREED: after good discussion around related changes, the group
agreed to accept a fix for bug#526535
On Sat, 2009-10-03 at 10:47 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 18:17 -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 14:47 -0400, James Laska wrote:
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526535 (jlaska, 16:17:50)
* AGREED: after good discussion around related
On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 16:00 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:
#2 is about the way someone would use the system. If I'm a place where I
know the bandwidth is questionable then I figure immediately after install
I can run: yum install yum-presto and be ready to go.
Or, we install yum-presto by
On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 16:22 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:
I don't consider the single command a
significant barrier, either way.
Maybe not for people who maintain yum...
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On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 15:55 +, Colin Walters wrote:
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote:
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu wrote:
As far as I can tell, gnome-desktop doesn't include explicit (default or
otherwise)
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 12:44 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Colin Walters (walt...@verbum.org) said:
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu wrote:
As far as I can tell, gnome-desktop doesn't include explicit (default or
otherwise) fonts either.
I haven't
On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 05:55 +, Matej Cepl wrote:
Colin Walters, Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:46:50 +:
These are wrong and should be in the comps group. Looks like Matthias
added them. I'll move them to comps now.
Which seems like to typical Fedora event ... after all FESCO approved
On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 20:08 +0200, nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote:
Because they're not the default, the defaults are defined in the @fonts
group, this is an experiment by the desktop team, without any
concertation, or understanding on how we managed fonts so far.
Given that fact that
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 18:02 -0400, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
Now that abrt has obsoleted bug-buddy, starting any GTK+ application
results in the innocuous, but rather annoying warning:
Gtk-Message: Failed to load module gnomebreakpad:
libgnomebreakpad.so: cannot open shared object file:
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 18:40 -0400, Tom spot Callaway wrote:
On 09/10/2009 06:36 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
should get rid of it. The harder question is where to put that
command...
%post for abrt-gui ? :)
That doesn't help, since the gconf key is in your users gconf db. The
command has
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 19:39 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 06:57:43PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 18:40 -0400, Tom spot Callaway wrote:
On 09/10/2009 06:36 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
should get rid of it. The harder question is where to put
We will look at sharing of files, music and desktops in the next Fit and
Finish test day, which is coming up very soon, 2009-09-08, which is the
coming Tuesday.
Read all about it at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-09-08_Fit_and_Finish:Sharing
Join us on Tuesday in
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 17:04 +, Colin Walters wrote:
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Matthias Clasenmcla...@redhat.com wrote:
After talking to the abrt guys, I've changed the desktop spin ks to
replace bug-buddy and kerneloops by abrt.
This change should be made in comps (as per my
As part of the move to PolicyKit 1.0, the old PolicyKit 0.9 and
PolicyKit-gnome 0.9 packages are going to be obsoleted. Our plan is to
have the Obsoletes in place before the beta.
Most users of PolicyKit have been ported over by now, but there are a
few stragglers. If your package is using
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 19:35 +0200, drago01 wrote:
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Matthias Clasenmcla...@redhat.com wrote:
[..]
Static? Doesn't scale (unless you would want to do it just for specific
apps)
My initial idea was to make this a 'top 10 apps', ie be selective,
instead of
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 14:36 +0200, drago01 wrote:
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Toshio Kuratomia.bad...@gmail.com wrote:
On 08/23/2009 10:50 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Aren't we pitching Fedora Community interface as the end user facing
thing, going forward? It seems some of these
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 18:56 +0200, drago01 wrote:
Yeah looks good but I would rather not show screenshots in this view
(or atleast not different sized ones).
A short description + icon should be enough.
Have a show more link that contains a longer description +
screenshots and a Install
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 16:31 -0400, Michel Salim wrote:
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 13:26 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
This obviously needs the helping hand of a web designer.
For F12, this would probably be not much more than a static web page.
Static? Doesn't scale (unless you
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 22:18 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 08/18/2009 10:15 PM, Mel Chua wrote:
PS: I know this is last-minute notice - sorry about that. We're still
learning how to do things on a schedule, and next time around we'll put
the call out here much earlier.
Is there a
Another week, another Fit and Finish test day.
This time around, we want to look at printing.
See
http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-08-18_Fit_and_Finish:Printing
Both Marek Kasik and Tim Waugh have kindly agreed to be around, so we'll
have sufficient expertise for all of the
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 11:38 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
Another week, another Fit and Finish test day.
This time around, we want to look at printing.
See
http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-08-18_Fit_and_Finish:Printing
Both Marek Kasik and Tim Waugh have kindly agreed
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 18:40 +0200, Ralf Ertzinger wrote:
Hi.
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:32:48 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote
Sorry, I had no idea somebody else was referring to them. Next time,
kindly tell me if you want to reuse something that I put up with the
explicit warning
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 18:56 +0200, Ralf Ertzinger wrote:
Hi.
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:51:26 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote
Errr. wouldn't that be tomorrow, technically?
No, my isos were for the Fit and Finish test day that happened
yesterday.
Well, they're referenced on the wiki
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 11:29 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
In the course of doing a bug report on Epiphany, it's come up that
Epiphany is effectively orphaned:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/epiphany
it is owned by gecko-maint, but since it's now based on Webkit, that
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 12:20 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 15:05 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 11:29 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
In the course of doing a bug report on Epiphany, it's come up that
Epiphany is effectively orphaned:
https
On Tue, 2009-08-11 at 10:12 +0200, Zoltan Kota wrote:
Hi,
Could you help with the following bug?
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=512115
It is a
Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_x11_atom_to_xatom_for_display: assertion
`atom != GDK_NONE' failed
error. This seems to be appeared with
Just a quick reminder:
We are meeting tomorrow in #fedora-fit-and-finish on freenode to test
how well F12 works with phones, music players, cameras, usb sticks and
other things you care to plug into your computer. See
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 11:33 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
Just went to download a Fedora ISO and I'm struck once again by how
peculiar the Fedora homepage has become:
http://fedoraproject.org/
(or screenshot: http://www.annexia.org/tmp/fedora.png)
What does the word Reign have to do
Hi all,
time for another 'Fit and Finish' test day. This time, we want to look
at issues and use cases surrounding anything you can plug into your
computer, be it a camera, a phone, a usb stick, or whatever gizmos you
have at home...
Join us in #fedora-fit-and-finish on Freenode, on Aug 11
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 13:34 -0400, Bill McGonigle wrote:
On 08/07/2009 12:53 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
a camera, a phone, a usb stick, or whatever gizmos you
have at home...
Real plastic and metal plugs only, or bluetooth connections as well?
Bluetooth is definitively in scope
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 10:43 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
Well with the no frozen rawhide proposal, from the Alpha freeze point on
there would be such an updates-testing for the pending release, while
rawhide remains the wild west. You could say install F12, then at F13
Alpha jump onto F13
On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 15:15 -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
Hi FESCo,
After requesting status updates, including direct email to the feature
owners, the following feature pages do not have a current status or
their ability to tested during the Alpha is unclear based on the lack of
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 12:30 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 12:06 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
OK, bad example, but you know what I mean.
Yes, I do, and I think there is room for a Fedora offering that is
released frequently (every 6 months), supported for about a year,
On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 11:49 +0200, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote:
Hi all.
KDE 4.3 will come to F11 and F10. It's a cool thing.
There aren't updates like this for Gnome. Why not?
F10 with Gnome 2.26 sounds fine to me.
GNOME has stable bugfix updates, and we do bring all of those into
released
On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 13:04 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
An alternative would be to tag updates within a single repo in a way
that yum and PackageKit understand and have appropriate configuration
options to enable certain types of update, which would really be much
the same situation, just
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 00:56 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
I'll make sure one of the Desktop-y guys updates this (presumably
Matthias).
I've updated it recently and bumped it to 75%. It would seem
disingenuous to bump it to 100% when GNOME 2.28 has not been released
yet.
It is fine for the
On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 12:31 +0100, Pádraig Brady wrote:
Till Maas wrote:
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 08:41:49PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
I'm going to orphan glade2.
glade3 is the only actively maintained version of glade, and I don't see
a reason to keep glade2 around any longer
On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 13:12 +0200, nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote:
GNOME has been broken in rawhide for a week now
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-July/msg01500.html
What you are seeing is probably
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513629
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glade3 is the only actively maintained version of glade, and I don't see
a reason to keep glade2 around any longer.
Matthias
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The 'Fit and Finish' test day about batteries and suspend took place
yesterday. Thanks to everybody who came by and helped us find, fix and
test things !
If you could not make it, our test cases are still available here:
On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 13:10 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
It would be great if the test day (and others) could link to a iso for
rawhide that fits on a CD to make this part of the process simple.
hint, hint ;-]
Yeah, I'm working on it. However, todays (and yesterdays) spins so far
had the
Just a reminder:
The next 'fit and finish' test day will take place on July 21, which is
next Tuesday. We want to look at issues with the user experience around
batteries, suspend and power management in general.
On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 12:05 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Matthias Clasen on 07/17/2009 11:50 AM wrote:
Just a reminder:
The next 'fit and finish' test day will take place on July 21, which is
next Tuesday. We want to look at issues with the user experience around
batteries
On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 13:54 +0300, Muayyad AlSadi wrote:
regardless of any of those factors, what should I do to make this
feature be part of F12 features ?
Put your feature in the category FeatureReadyForWrangler when your
feature page is sufficiently complete. Its all explained here:
Anybody knows how to contact Tomáš Bžatek? Is he still working for Red
Hat? I see he has a lot of open bugs (some of them are just getting
closed by the bugzappers) without a single comment from him. I set one
to NEEDINFO but didn't get a response for months.
You can send mail to
On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 10:05 -0400, Michal Nowak wrote:
Awesome Window Manager [0] requires startup-notification of version
0.10 [1], I filled bug for it [3], however, no action was taken so
far. Can some of you desktop folks bump the version, please?
Done
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Time to announce the next 'fit and finish' test day.
On July 21, we want to look at issues with the user experience around
batteries, suspend and power management in general.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-07-21_Fit_and_Finish:Batteries_and_Suspend
Please join us in
On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 08:30 -0700, darrell pfeifer wrote:
The bottom line: with policykit being used more heavily in rawhide, if
you're getting strange intermittent permissions failures, try the
workaround.
When you run out of inotify watches, many things will fail, not just
PolicyKit.
We've had the first 'Fit and Finish' test day on display configuration
yesterday. I'd like to thank everybody who came by on irc and tested
something, or filed a bug. If you could not make it, our test cases are
still available here:
Just a reminder that we are kicking off our 'fit and finish' initiative
with a test day on display configuration tomorrow, in
#fedora-fit-and-finish. If you go to
http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-07-07_Fit_and_Finish:Display_Configuration
you'll find more information. We will
On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 13:55 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 15:27 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
If you have ideas for
other areas that could benefit from this kind of attention, please let
us know.
I can think of a number of different cross-component tests
I built libxklavier 4.0 in rawhide yesterday.
It changed api; the required change looks like this:
-xkl_config_registry_load (config_registry);
+xkl_config_registry_load (config_registry, FALSE);
Sorry for the late notice...
Here is a list of likely affected
-and-finish irc channel on FreeNode. Please come and join us
there !
Matthias Clasen for the Desktop team
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On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 23:48 +0400, Peter Lemenkov wrote:
If you wish to improve *user* experience, then you should focus
entirely on actual Fedora releases rather than on Rawhide. However I
see that in testing days you still encourage only users with
up-to-date Rawhide installations. That's
On Sun, 2009-06-28 at 08:06 -0400, Tom spot Callaway wrote:
The only other packages I intend to touch on this issue are:
(duplicate directory with filesystem)
avahi
avahi is good now, I think, after I made it use %find_lang.
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On Sun, 2009-06-28 at 23:35 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Matthew Garrett wrote:
The reality is that KDE *is* a second class citizen in Fedora - it
doesn't get anywhere near the attention that Gnome does.
SARCASMThanks/SARCASM for insulting our (KDE SIG's) work yet again,
that's
On Sun, 2009-06-28 at 02:04 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
That's not distro integration. It's Fedora developers who happen to be
upstream developers calling their upstream GNOME features Fedora
features. That doesn't make them any less GNOME-only features. This is at
most a failure of our
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 11:02 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
My random thought for today:
Thunderbird is listed under the Internet sub-menu. Evolution is listed
under the Office sub-menu. Why are they in different places?
Ah...
mozilla-thunderbird.desktop:
Categories=Email;Network;
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 20:06 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
On 06/24/2009 07:18 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
Thats perfectly fine. It is one main category (Office) plus several
additional categories, as described in the desktop entry spec. Plus some
old gunk thats not used anymore (X-Red
On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 11:58 +0200, Nils Philippsen wrote:
As it is, malware need only sit in the background and wait for e.g. a
PolicyKit-enabled user manager to acquire the authorization for user
creation to be able to easily install a backdoor account.
Nils, this is somewhat inaccurate
On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 19:09 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:02:22AM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
The retained authorization is only valid for the subject that obtained
it, which will typically be a process (identified by process id and
start time) or a canonical
On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 16:17 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
Its the next circle, the less frequent administrative chore tasks,
that I'm not sure its well defined in terms of which applications need
PolKit support added in. Maybe Nautilus is that circle, maybe its not.
Maybe its not time to start
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 21:00 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
Just a heads-up:
We hope to land a new PolicyKit version (which will turn into 1.0,
eventually) in F12 soon.
PolicyKit 0.92 has now landed in rawhide; the package name has changed
to polkit and polkit-gnome, to allow it to coexist
On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 12:25 +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote:
c) Have rpm silently add ownership of unowned directories to the package
that creates them. This could cause weird directory conflicts when some
other package actually owns the directory / becomes the owner, and just
feels wrong
On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 18:41 +0200, Dennis J. wrote:
If that's the case then it obviously makes sense to stick with grub
legacy but given it's status who is going to be upstream for this? What I
fear is a similar situation like we had with rpm where nobody really took
ownership and vendors
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 14:58 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
# for /usr/share/gnome/autostart
Requires: gnome-session
Great! This adds
gnome-session: 1.8 MB
control-center: 7.1 MB
GConf2: 5,5 MB
gnome-keyring: 2,3 MB
gnome-vfs2: 3.1 MB
You added at least ~ 22,8 MB overhead just
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 16:06 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
My anger is because people don't honor our packaging guidelines not even
if they are asked to do so. The guidelines are very clear in this case:
Multiple packages have files in a common directory but none of them
requires others.
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 22:39 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
Am Dienstag, den 09.06.2009, 20:00 + schrieb Michael Schwendt:
The following packages in the repository suffer from broken dependencies:
==
The results in
On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 13:25 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
I personally think it would be a huge mistake to have stuff happen
automatically based on filename/location heuristics. Naming collisions
happen all the time (for example GNOME recently decided that a third of
our fonts were ODF
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