Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-21 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:52:49PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: I suspect the problem with that is attempting to determine a universal concept of 'offensive'. Heck, we might have no-offensive-packages-kde that conflicts with 'gnome-*', and no-offensive-packages-gnome... And you can't

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-21 Thread Jesse Keating
On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 12:58 -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: And you can't uninstall KDE without killing gnome since NetworkManager-gnome has a dependency on KDE... Um, what? Care to elaborate? -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-21 Thread Bill Nottingham
Eric Springer (erik...@gmail.com) said: It's probably abusing the system and breaks a million guidelines, but what about making a no-offensive-packages package that explicitly conflicts with a list of offensive packages? I suspect the problem with that is attempting to determine a universal

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-21 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:00:13AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 12:58 -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: And you can't uninstall KDE without killing gnome since NetworkManager-gnome has a dependency on KDE... Um, what? Care to elaborate?

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-21 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 01:08:43PM -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:00:13AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 12:58 -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: And you can't uninstall KDE without killing gnome since NetworkManager-gnome has a dependency on

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-21 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 06:22:04PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: IIUC, you're mis-interpreting the YUM output there. NetworkManager-gnome doesn't have a dependancy on KDE, rather it happens to be part of the KDE (K Desktop Environment) group. ie in doing a 'groupremove' you explicitly

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-21 Thread Bill Nottingham
Darryl L. Pierce (dpie...@redhat.com) said: You're correct in that removing the KDE group attempts to remove the NetworkManager-gnome rpm. I remembered uninstalling KDE also removed NetworkManager-gnome which borked my laptop until I re-installed the RPM. That's something that should be

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-21 Thread Jesse Keating
On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 13:28 -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 06:22:04PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: IIUC, you're mis-interpreting the YUM output there. NetworkManager-gnome doesn't have a dependancy on KDE, rather it happens to be part of the KDE (K Desktop

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-21 Thread Charley Wang
- Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 13:28 -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 06:22:04PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: IIUC, you're mis-interpreting the YUM output there. NetworkManager-gnome doesn't have a dependancy on KDE,

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-21 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Bill Nottingham wrote: Darryl L. Pierce (dpie...@redhat.com) said: You're correct in that removing the KDE group attempts to remove the NetworkManager-gnome rpm. I remembered uninstalling KDE also removed NetworkManager-gnome which borked my laptop until I re-installed

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-21 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/10/21 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com: On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 13:28 -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 06:22:04PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: IIUC, you're mis-interpreting the YUM output there. NetworkManager-gnome doesn't have a dependancy on KDE, rather it

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-20 Thread Eric Springer
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Steven James Drinnan ste...@scc.hkwrote: Well any ideas, for me Package Kit would be the way to go. Then users could add the packages or groups to the exclude list. Maybe an extra password (optional) for parents / supervisors. Or like was mentioned a way

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-19 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 19.10.2009 02:39, Ismael Olea napsal(a): bibletime.i586 : BibleTime is an easy to use Bible study tool for KDE gnomesword.i586 : GNOME-based Bible research tool kio_sword.i586 : A lightweight frontend for the Sword Bible project for KDE sword.i586 : Free Bible Software Project

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-19 Thread Yaakov Nemoy
2009/10/19 Josephine Tannhäuser josephine.tannhau...@googlemail.com: 2009/10/16 Steven James Drinnan ste...@scc.hk I recently installed gestikk. And to my horror one of the dialogs said. (Check Box) F*** off No lie, So how does one recommend that this be removed. Steven --

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-19 Thread Josephine Tannhäuser
2009/10/19 Yaakov Nemoy loupgaroubl...@gmail.com This is really a stupid thread. Of course! But who is the stupid? The one who started this thread or those who answered it or those who wasting so much time to discuss about nonsense? -- Josephine Fine Tannhäuser 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i586 --

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-19 Thread Ismael Olea
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Josephine Tannhäuser josephine.tannhau...@googlemail.com wrote: btw. I'm still missing Godwin's Law. It's a must for stupid nonsense-discussions, but I'm not missing it! tongue place=cheek So, you are acting clearly as a Nazi! /tongue -- Ismael Olea

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-19 Thread Josephine Tannhäuser
OMG Even 4chan is funnier than you -- Josephine Fine Tannhäuser 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i586 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-19 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/10/19 Ismael Olea ism...@olea.org: On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Josephine Tannhäuser josephine.tannhau...@googlemail.com wrote: btw. I'm still missing Godwin's Law. It's a must for stupid nonsense-discussions, but I'm not missing it! tongue place=cheek So, you are acting clearly

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-19 Thread Josephine Tannhäuser
2009/10/19 Thomas Janssen thom...@fedoraproject.org Well, this thread was disputable. But you crossed a line here. Some idiots on this planet grab the same statement all the time when they run out of arguments. This is not even acceptable as a tongue in the cheek.

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-19 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 01:59:50PM +0200, Josephine Tannh?user wrote: 2009/10/19 Guido Grazioli guido.grazi...@gmail.com Come on guys, let this thread die. In other words, shut the export YUM_I_LIKE_BAD_WORDS=1 yum -y install fuck up ;-) f.u.c.k.u.p. the computer of Hagbard

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-19 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 19.10.2009 13:27, Thomas Janssen napsal(a): Well, this thread was disputable. But you crossed a line here. Some idiots on this planet grab the same statement all the time when they run out of arguments. This is not even acceptable as a tongue in the cheek.

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-19 Thread Muayyad AlSadi
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Offensive_Packages hahaha! what a bad joke! not only you advertise pornography packages you give conclusions and according to which things you called offensive packages made a pornography packages equivalent to glorifying God (minbar package) how cheap this

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-19 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Muayyad AlSadi wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Offensive_Packages hahaha! what a bad joke! This thread needs to stop, too. If you wish to continue discussing it - please do so off-list. Thank You, -sv -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-19 Thread Steven James Drinnan
On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 12:30 +0200, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: 2009/10/16 Steven James Drinnan ste...@scc.hk I recently installed gestikk. And to my horror one of the dialogs said. (Check Box) F*** off No lie, So

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-19 Thread Steven James Drinnan
Wow this has really hit sore point, It just goes to show that there pro and cons on both sides. Like or not people want the ability to filter content that that deem unfit. Thats why I asked about it in the first place the concern was simple, I have young children and I installed a screamingly

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-18 Thread Eric Springer
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Steven James Drinnan ste...@scc.hk wrote: I recently installed gestikk. And to my horror one of the dialogs said. Not sure if it's the best road to take, how ever I've created a page in the wiki (that can be edited mercilessly or deleted if you think it'll just

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-18 Thread Steven James Drinnan
On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 09:35 +1000, Eric Springer wrote: On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Steven James Drinnan ste...@scc.hk wrote: I recently installed gestikk. And to my horror one of the dialogs said. Not sure if it's the best road to take, how ever I've created a page in the wiki (that

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-18 Thread Ismael Olea
Maybe this could be added as a feature in future releases - there may not be many packages that need to be added but it would give a big group of users some peace of mind. IMHO if this kind of feature is accepted would be needed to do in other cases, for example about religion. In a fast

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-18 Thread Eric Springer
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Ismael Olea ism...@olea.org wrote: My 0.02€ More like your troll-cents. Despite the absurdity (of this whole thing, in fact) I've added a category and included it. And people can make up their own minds. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-16 Thread Steven James Drinnan
I will file a ticket. But my point was the image of Fedora.Does Fedora want be associated with software vendors that use this type of language? Steven On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 07:31 +0200, Haïkel Guémar wrote: Le 16/10/2009 06:58, Steven James Drinnan a écrit : I recently installed gestikk.

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-16 Thread Steven James Drinnan
I will file a ticket. But my point was the image of Fedora.Does Fedora want be associated with software vendors that use this type of language? Steven On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 07:31 +0200, Haïkel Guémar wrote: Le 16/10/2009 06:58, Steven James Drinnan a écrit : I recently installed gestikk.

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/16/2009 12:09 PM, Steven James Drinnan wrote: I will file a ticket. But my point was the image of Fedora.Does Fedora want be associated with software vendors that use this type of language? They aren't usually vendors. They are usually just hobbyists. It would be good to highlight

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-16 Thread Peter Lemenkov
2009/10/16 Steven James Drinnan ste...@scc.hk: I will file  a ticket. But my point was the image of Fedora.Does Fedora want be associated with software vendors that use this type of language? Please, disconnect yourself from the Internet asap, because it's full of obscene videos, jokes,

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-16 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:48:24AM +0400, Peter Lemenkov wrote: Please, disconnect yourself from the Internet asap, because it's full of obscene videos, jokes, sexism and so on. And that's great! Even if something is on the internet, this does not meant that it has a place within the Fedora

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-16 Thread Peter Lemenkov
2009/10/16 Till Maas opensou...@till.name: You may also want to think about whether you really find it great that there's sexism on the internet, because you might have confused it with sexual content. No, I meant sexism. I thought, that sexism is modern trend nowadays, since almost every

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/16/2009 02:29 PM, Peter Lemenkov wrote: You see, I personally prefer to live in the society with some level of aggressively thinking and speaking minorities, rather than in dark ages of censorship, brainwashing and hypocrisy. You seem to be equating aggressive thinking with sexism and

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-16 Thread Peter Lemenkov
2009/10/16 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org: On 10/16/2009 02:29 PM, Peter Lemenkov wrote: You see, I personally prefer to live in the society with some level of aggressively thinking and speaking minorities, rather than in dark ages of censorship, brainwashing and hypocrisy. You

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/16/2009 02:40 PM, Peter Lemenkov wrote: Civil and decent behavior is to be tolerant to others, right? So, please, be tolerant to sexists/racists/multiple other-ists. Quite the opposite. You are really confused about what being civil and decent actually means. If someone is being sexist

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-16 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 01:10:09PM +0400, Peter Lemenkov wrote: 2009/10/16 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org: On 10/16/2009 02:29 PM, Peter Lemenkov wrote: You see, I personally prefer to live in the society with some level of aggressively thinking and speaking minorities, rather

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-16 Thread Bill Nottingham
Steven James Drinnan (ste...@scc.hk) said: I will file a ticket. But my point was the image of Fedora.Does Fedora want be associated with software vendors that use this type of language? There are worse things in the package collection, alas, depending on your point of view. In any case,

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-16 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 12:58:39PM +0800, Steven James Drinnan wrote: I recently installed gestikk. And to my horror one of the dialogs said. (Check Box) F*** off No lie, So how does one recommend that this be removed. What we'll probably do is patch the code to have a less obscene

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Steven James Drinnan wrote: But my point was the image of Fedora.Does Fedora want be associated with software vendors that use this type of language? Why the fuck would we not? Is there something fucking wrong with the word fuck? Let's just fucking stop this fucking politically correct

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-16 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote: Steven James Drinnan wrote: But my point was the image of Fedora.Does Fedora want be associated with software vendors that use this type of language? Why the fuck would we not? Is there something fucking wrong with the word fuck? Let's just fucking

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-16 Thread Haïkel Guémar
Le 16/10/2009 19:19, Toshio Kuratomi a écrit : On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 12:58:39PM +0800, Steven James Drinnan wrote: I recently installed gestikk. And to my horror one of the dialogs said. (Check Box) F*** off No lie, So how does one recommend that this be removed. What we'll probably

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-16 Thread Dr. Diesel
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Haïkel Guémar karlthe...@gmail.com wrote: It's not really that offensive (sexist, racist, homophobic etc...), it's not installed by default so it won't hurt our image. Anyone offended should go complain to upstream, Fedora maintainers have no time to waste

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-16 Thread Mary Ellen Foster
2009/10/16 Haïkel Guémar karlthe...@gmail.com: Le 16/10/2009 19:19, Toshio Kuratomi a écrit : On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 12:58:39PM +0800, Steven James Drinnan wrote: I recently installed gestikk. And to my horror one of the dialogs said. (Check Box) F*** off I recently came accross Gnaughty

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-16 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:29:46PM +0200, Haïkel Guémar wrote: Le 16/10/2009 19:19, Toshio Kuratomi a écrit : On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 12:58:39PM +0800, Steven James Drinnan wrote: I recently installed gestikk. And to my horror one of the dialogs said. (Check Box) F*** off No lie,

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-16 Thread Guido Grazioli
Is GPL really a way to freely censor a developer work, as in this case? If it were closed source, you wouldn't had the right to do that. That string is more stupid than offensive; and the escalation found here, starting from the word fuck to things like sexism, racism and tolerance probably was

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2009-10-17 at 01:09 +0200, Guido Grazioli wrote: Is GPL really a way to freely censor a developer work, as in this case? If it were closed source, you wouldn't had the right to do that. That string is more stupid than offensive; and the escalation found There are people who find

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-16 Thread Guido Grazioli
2009/10/17 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com On Sat, 2009-10-17 at 01:09 +0200, Guido Grazioli wrote: Is GPL really a way to freely censor a developer work, as in this case? If it were closed source, you wouldn't had the right to do that. That string is more stupid than offensive;

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/17/2009 06:58 AM, Guido Grazioli wrote: My question was, would you call that patch a bugfix, or enhancement? Or it is just like the beep over a bad word on tv, and by all means you can do that thanks to gpl? In this case, since the wording has already been fixed upstream, it would be a

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2009-10-17 at 03:28 +0200, Guido Grazioli wrote: I didnt say i find profanity not offensive; also, i strongly agree with your point (*when* wouldnt profanity be considered gratuitous?). My question was, would you call that patch a bugfix, or enhancement? Or it is just like the

Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-15 Thread Steven James Drinnan
I recently installed gestikk. And to my horror one of the dialogs said. (Check Box) F*** off No lie, So how does one recommend that this be removed. Steven signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-15 Thread Haïkel Guémar
Le 16/10/2009 06:58, Steven James Drinnan a écrit : I recently installed gestikk. And to my horror one of the dialogs said. (Check Box) F*** off No lie, So how does one recommend that this be removed. Steven File a ticket upstream. The string itself is in the .glade file, since