Re: PolicyKit changes in F12

2009-05-24 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Sunday 24 May 2009 04:26:10 Matthias Clasen wrote: On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 00:33 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Jaroslav Reznik wrote: How long old PK will be shipped in Fedora? Shipping old PolicyKit won't really help, as PackageKit etc. are all going to get ported to the new one

Re: PolicyKit changes in F12

2009-05-24 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Sunday 24 May 2009 00:33:09 Kevin Kofler wrote: Jaroslav Reznik wrote: How long old PK will be shipped in Fedora? Shipping old PolicyKit won't really help, as PackageKit etc. are all going to get ported to the new one. The only reasonable thing to do is to BLOCK the upgrade until it can

Re: PolicyKit changes in F12

2009-05-26 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Martes 26 Mayo 2009 11:16:14 Daniel P. Berrange escribió: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 02:22:02PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote: | From: Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu | | Seems frustrations are mounting: | On policykit and standards |

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Viernes 29 Mayo 2009 11:38:21 Rahul Sundaram escribió: On 05/29/2009 03:00 PM, Muayyad AlSadi wrote: IMHO it is not Fedora's job to define family values moralities. Such morals/values will vary all around the world I don't want fedora to define such things, we have our own values

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Viernes 29 Mayo 2009 13:40:36 Chitlesh GOORAH escribió: On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro wrote: Movies in proprietary formats can be downloaded also with Firefox, Transmission, wget, etc. From the description of gnaughty I understand it can also

Re: Maintainer Responsibilities

2009-06-03 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Miércoles 03 Junio 2009 11:52:37 Juha Tuomala escribió: On Wednesday 03 June 2009 11:47:26 Jaroslav Reznik wrote: PS: I'm not saying to not report bugs to RH bugzilla, we can help then but lack of direct communication between user and developer is issue, You're assuming that all those

Re: Maintainer Responsibilities

2009-06-04 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Jueves 04 Junio 2009 08:59:23 Ralf Corsepius escribió: Kevin Kofler wrote: Steve Grubb wrote: Not if its closed. How would I be notified that the fix is in Fedora? If the bug is severe enough, shouldn't the upstream commit be applied to Fedora's package and the package pushed out for

Re: Maintainer Responsibilities

2009-06-04 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Miércoles 03 Junio 2009 22:27:13 Kevin Kofler escribió: Jaroslav Reznik wrote: Most bugs are filled by quite technically skilled users. For average users it doesn't depend if it is RH bugzilla or upstream's bugzilla - it's too complicated for them. I know - it's another story

Re: Maintainer Responsibilities

2009-06-04 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Miércoles 03 Junio 2009 23:35:07 Adam Williamson escribió: On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 22:57 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Steve Grubb wrote: And then should the bug be closed hoping that one day you pull in a package that solves the user's problem? If the bug is fixed upstream, the Fedora

Re: Maintainer Responsibilities

2009-06-05 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Jueves 04 Junio 2009 20:23:01 Adam Williamson escribió: On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 17:27 +0100, Paul Howarth wrote: I'll happily raise upstream bugs myself but it irks me when maintainers close Fedora bugs with the UPSTREAM resolution without actually taking the upstream fix and bringing it

Re: the end of life for flash player (HTML5)

2009-06-09 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Martes 09 Junio 2009 17:05:04 Kevin Kofler escribió: drago01 wrote: Or you can simply ship provide multiple video streams and switch them based on the useragent. (this is very likely to be the end result, even thought it sucks). The user agent is the wrong way to check for support.

Re: Qt 4.5.1

2009-06-09 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Tuesday 09 June 2009 18:11:37 Jeremy Sanders wrote: Hi - Are we likely to see a qt 4.5.1 update at some point for F10? There's a bug fixed which makes my application very slow. Qt 4.5.1 draws long clipped lines extremely slowly. Hi, it's waiting in Bodhi...

KDE-SIG weekly report (26/2009)

2009-06-24 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
/fedora- meeting.2009-06-23-16.04.log.html Full log -- = Participants = * Jaroslav Reznik * Kevin Kofler * Lukas Tinkl * Rex Dieter * Steven Parrish * Than Ngo

Re: Suggestion re FESCO Ticket #170

2009-06-29 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Monday 29 June 2009 13:22:05 Naheem Zaffar wrote: The I don't care looks like get me out of here!. I don't care really scares me. If you don't care then system installation or using with live CD is not a job for you! Jaroslav Not presenting a default choice is just bad usability. Those

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26

2009-06-29 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Monday 29 June 2009 17:12:42 Bastien Nocera wrote: On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 15:15 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Bastien Nocera wrote: I'm sure that a KDE hacker with access to a supported fingerprint reader could implement the enrollment facility within an afternoon. There's already an

Re: Raising the bar

2009-06-29 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Monday 29 June 2009 21:27:27 Matthias Clasen wrote: Hey all, we'd like to announce the 'Fit and Finish' initiative for Fedora, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fit_and_Finish with the goal to improve the user experience of the Fedora desktop. We want to identify the small (and sometimes

Re: Fedora 12 Features Needing Updates

2009-07-15 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Wednesday 15 July 2009 02:28:07 Ben Boeckel wrote: John Poelstra wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KDE43 I updated this since both Rex is on vacation and Kevin is most likely as well. Hi Ben, don't forget to update Updated column on Feature List page [1]. I often forget

Re: kde-4.3.0 coming to F-10, F-11

2009-08-05 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Wednesday 05 August 2009 12:04:21 Till Maas wrote: On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 01:55:11PM -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: The KDE SIG is now working on KDE-4.3.0-related builds for Fedora 10 and 11 candidate updates. As this requires some buildroot overrides, if your package uses KDE libraries, it

Re: Fedora 12 Features Proposed for Removal

2009-08-06 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Thursday 06 August 2009 01:59:02 Bastien Nocera wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 00:56 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 15:15 -0700, John Poelstra wrote: Hi FESCo, After requesting status updates, including direct email to the feature owners, the following feature

Re: KDE vs. GNOME on F10

2009-08-07 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Friday 07 August 2009 04:21:56 Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 12:30 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 12:06 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: OK, bad example, but you know what I mean. Yes, I do, and I think there is room for a Fedora offering that is

Re: KDE vs. GNOME on F10

2009-08-07 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Friday 07 August 2009 10:42:35 Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 08/07/2009 01:35 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: The other problem is if you'd like stable updates but you prefer KDE, or vice versa =) Why do you expect that updating to the latest KDE means unstable system? ;-) As already

Re: Requires question in SPEC

2009-08-11 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Tuesday 11 August 2009 10:02:23 Steven Moix wrote: Hello all, I'm facing a problem with one of my SPEC files...I'm packaging a program (motion, in RPM Fusion) that has a startup script. In the start() section of this startup script, I have added an

KDE-SIG weekly report (33/2009)

2009-08-12 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
/2009-08-11/fedora- meeting.2009-08-11-14.07.log.html -- = Participants = * Jaroslav Reznik * Kevin Kofler * Rex Dieter * Sebastian Vahl * Steven Parrish * Lukas Tinkl * Thomas Janssen

Re: PolicyKit 0.9 is going away

2009-08-27 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Thursday 27 August 2009 17:35:36 Kevin Kofler wrote: Jaroslav Reznik wrote: PolicyKit-KDE is now integral part of kdebase-workspace, it is a KDE 4.3 feature, we should disable it for now (untill we have new ported version). Same problem is with PolicyKit-Qt as my quick port breaks API

Re: ktorrent adds kdm - Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-28 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Thursday 27 August 2009 18:34:38 Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:14:43 -0400, Ben wrote: [KDE X session file] So your issue is that kdebase-workspace puts it there, but it's not complete, so it shouldn't? Well, in case installing ktorrent shall drag in the packages for

Re: gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-28 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Thursday 27 August 2009 19:54:19 Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) wrote: 25.08.2009 02:07, Kevin Kofler wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: A quick way to actually check for such dependencies is to switch to another desktop environment, say Xfce, remove all the KDE packages and install one

Re: PolicyKit 0.9 is going away

2009-08-28 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Thursday 27 August 2009 18:45:44 Matthias Clasen wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 17:35 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Jaroslav Reznik wrote: PolicyKit-KDE is now integral part of kdebase-workspace, it is a KDE 4.3 feature, we should disable it for now (untill we have new ported version

Re: PolicyKit 0.9 is going away

2009-08-28 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Friday 28 August 2009 15:36:19 Matthias Clasen wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 06:47 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: Matthias Clasen wrote: I have been able to port some 10-12 PolicyKit users from 0.9 to 0.90 in a matter of a few days. The KDE sig should really be able to get this port done.

Re: PolicyKit 0.9 is going away

2009-08-28 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Friday 28 August 2009 16:23:07 David Zeuthen wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 12:45 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: I'd be willing to maintain PolicyKit 0.9 packages (as compatibility packages (though renaming should not be needed as they already have distinct names), to be used by KDE) for

Re: PolicyKit 0.9 is going away

2009-08-28 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Friday 28 August 2009 16:14:51 Jaroslav Reznik wrote: On Friday 28 August 2009 15:36:19 Matthias Clasen wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 06:47 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: Matthias Clasen wrote: I have been able to port some 10-12 PolicyKit users from 0.9 to 0.90 in a matter of a few days

Re: PolicyKit 0.9 is going away

2009-08-31 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Saturday 29 August 2009 22:43:46 Kevin Kofler wrote: Matthias Clasen wrote: Anyway, this all seems to be a somewhat moot discussion, trying to nail us down on a 'promise to keep the old stuff around', when there already is a patch that can solve the whole dilemma. Looks like this is

KDE-SIG weekly report (37/2009)

2009-09-08 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply to this email or add it to the related meeting page. -- = Weekly KDE

KDE-SIG weekly report (39/2009)

2009-09-22 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply to this email or add it to the related meeting page. -- = Weekly KDE

[KDE] Which Phonon? Phonon backend - GStreamer or Xine?

2009-09-29 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
Hi! We, KDE SIG, are considering which backend should be default for Phonon in Fedora. Seems like it's not easy to agree on final decision @ KDE SIG meetings, we'd like to summarize what's the problem, some backends facts (please correct me, comment, add, etc.) and we'd like to hear comments

KDE-SIG weekly report (40/2009)

2009-09-30 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply to this email or add it to the related meeting page. -- = Weekly KDE

Re: [KDE] Which Phonon? Phonon backend - GStreamer or Xine?

2009-09-30 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Wednesday 30 September 2009 15:33:43 Kevin Kofler wrote: Jaroslav Reznik wrote: Another interesting thing is PA Phonon integration work by Colin Guthrie (see the link in my first message). Phonon just as wrapper/thin client for PA with nicer Qt like API. I like this idea. That's

Re: [KDE] Which Phonon? Phonon backend - GStreamer or Xine?

2009-09-30 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Wednesday 30 September 2009 19:11:36 Kevin Kofler wrote: Lennart Poettering wrote: So I think it would make a lot of sense to switch to make our distro Gst-only asap. Eventually this move will have to happen anyway. Uh, I have to disagree there. It is not our job as distribution

Re: [KDE] Which Phonon? Phonon backend - GStreamer or Xine?

2009-10-01 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Thursday 01 October 2009 03:02:04 Kevin Kofler wrote: Jaroslav Reznik wrote: That's not about standardize on GTK+ That was just an example of how one size fits it all doesn't always work when it comes to libraries, there will always be more than one library for some purposes. We

Re: KDE-SIG weekly report (40/2009)

2009-10-02 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Thursday 01 October 2009 20:38:30 Sebastian Vahl wrote: Am Mittwoch 30 September 2009 schrieb Jaroslav Reznik: o future of Phonon * Upstream (sandsmark) recommends building/packaging phonon from qt, and building/packaging backends separately. * Mandriva developments integrating

Re: dracut, or should booting a LiveCD touch the hard disk?

2009-10-05 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
Hi Ray, I have to disagree. And why? Becuase of my experience. Few days ago one colleague came to my cubicle and asked me - KDE wants something and I don't know what they want. So I took a look and saw Plymouth with something that looks like password dialog. He was really surprised that it's

KDE-SIG weekly report (42/2009)

2009-10-13 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply to this email or add it to the related meeting page. -- = Weekly KDE

Re: [Fwd: Junior Jobs]

2009-10-19 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Monday 19 October 2009 08:47:38 Orcan Ogetbil wrote: 2009/10/19 Miroslav Suchý May be good idea for Fedora as well... Mirek Původní zpráva Předmět: [opensuse-packaging] Junior Jobs Datum: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:46:58 +0200 Od: Michal Hrusecky Hi, lately

KDE-SIG weekly report (45/2009)

2009-11-03 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply to this email or add it to the related meeting page. -- = Weekly KDE

Re: Local users get to play root?

2009-11-19 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Thursday 19 November 2009 14:05:01 Richard Hughes wrote: 2009/11/19 Jeff Garzik jgar...@pobox.com: 1) We should recognize this new policy departs from decades of Unix and Linux sysadmin experience. Sure, it's different. It doesn't make it wrong. 2) F12 policy should be reverted to

Re: abrt and bugzilla

2009-11-20 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Friday 20 November 2009 12:29:34 Neal Becker wrote: I can't seem to get abrt to work at all. I suspect it's stuck on trying to get bz username password. I suspect it doesn't work correctly with kde. From what I know it works correctly in KDE, even we have several KDE related bugreports

Re: abrt and bugzilla

2009-11-20 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Friday 20 November 2009 13:11:49 Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 11/20/2009 01:08 PM, Neal Becker wrote: Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 11/20/2009 12:54 PM, Neal Becker wrote: Jaroslav Reznik wrote: On Friday 20 November 2009 12:29:34 Neal Becker wrote: I can't seem to get abrt to work at all. I

KDE-SIG weekly report (48/2009)

2009-11-24 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply to this email or add it to the related meeting page. -- = Weekly KDE

Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

2009-11-27 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Thursday 26 November 2009 23:14:09 Dave Airlie wrote: On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 07:23 +1000, Dave Airlie wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-26 at 20:16 +, Terry Barnaby wrote: On 11/26/2009 07:46 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 17:09:14 +, Terry

Re: Come back

2010-01-08 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Friday 08 January 2010 15:51:28 Alain Portal wrote: Hi, I just took ownership of kbackup as it was orphan. As there is a long time that I didn´t contribute to the Fedora Project, can somebody tell me how to update the package and ask for F-10 and F-11 branches? F-10 branch is EOL (you