Re: Heads-up: %define vs %global in specs

2010-01-08 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 11:54:14AM +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote: On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, Panu Matilainen wrote: For the impatient: Starting with today's rawhide, the these kind of constructs in specs no longer work: %{?!foo: %define foo bar} For the generally desired effect, the above

Re: Recommendations on how to handle this package and its libraries

2010-01-07 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 08:58:08AM -0600, Adam Miller wrote: I'm currently packaging lessfs and there are apparently a couple libraries that are a part of it that have become a cause for concern by the reviewer (rightfully so) and I'm hoping someone could offer a recommendation of how to go

Re: RFE: Never, ever steal focus.

2010-01-07 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 02:24:17PM -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: They do happen to have the same WM_CLASS and WM_CLIENT_LEADER window properties. But that still only addresses automatic focus changes within a single application. Automatic focus changes across apps is probably desirable;

Re: Vala programs and compiling from source

2009-12-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 02:16:13PM +, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 15:53 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 05:00:58PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi, I recently submitting Deja-dup, a backup program written in Vala for review

Re: Vala programs and compiling from source

2009-12-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 03:52:14PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi, I recently submitting Deja-dup, a backup program written in Vala for review at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540761 Vala is described in more detail at

Re: Orphaned some packages

2009-12-21 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 09:36:59PM +0530, Vivek Shah wrote: Hi, Trying to take biniax and bastet, same problems. Tried taking up peppy (successful on the devel branch) but the same problem occurred on the other branches and for xpad as well. If people could try again I'd appreciate it -- we

Re: Vala programs and compiling from source

2009-12-21 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 05:00:58PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi, I recently submitting Deja-dup, a backup program written in Vala for review at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540761 Vala is described in more detail at http://live.gnome.org/Vala. Deja-dup like many

Re: Create a -cli package without a different executable

2009-12-19 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:39:18PM +0100, Julian Aloofi wrote: Am Freitag, den 18.12.2009, 18:12 +0100 schrieb Nicoleau Fabien: Hi, I'm packaging phatch that provides /usr/bin/phatch, a graphical application to manage some operations on photos. It handles command line parameters so

Re: Fedora update submission page broken for multiple packages

2009-12-17 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 01:35:44PM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:41:22 -0500, Tom wrote: Orcan Ogetbil writes: If there is a way to file an update (same version and release except the disttag) to multiple branches, please let me know. Usually it works: just

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-16 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:33:20AM -0500, Jon Masters wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 12:35 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: master makes a lot of sense from a git perspective. devel (or rawhide) makes sense from what we actually call the code that that branch eventually makes. A symlink

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-16 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:42:28AM -0500, Simo Sorce wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 07:28 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:33:20AM -0500, Jon Masters wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 12:35 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: master makes a lot of sense from a git

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-16 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:13:33AM +0100, Andreas Schwab wrote: Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com writes: On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 13:33 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote: My thinking is that we don't use origin/next or origin/maint either and both are common upstream in git and the kernel.

Re: Fedora update submission page broken for multiple packages

2009-12-16 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:15:37PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: I tried to submit an update for both the fc12 and fc11 versions of postgresql. It did not work; I had to file them as separate updates. I'm pretty sure it used to work --- is my memory failing me, or is this new breakage? If the

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:22:35AM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 13:16 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote: I'd like to suggest (again ;) that origin/devel be used. Either that, or use master as the local dir, e.g. kernel/master. Having it differ seems like a recipe for

Re: Exception request from FESCo for bundled libaries

2009-12-14 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 01:27:52PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le Lun 14 décembre 2009 12:45, Josephine Tannhäuser a écrit : of course this is a practicable rule, BUT the problem is upstream or the rule itself. kernels internal zlib is not a lib its a module, wordpress internal

Re: Exception request from FESCo for bundled libaries

2009-12-07 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 11:48:12AM +0100, Adrian Reber wrote: I was informed that wordpress uses bundled libraries and would like to request an exception from FESCo. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=544720 You need to have an explanation of why an exception would be

Re: Orphaning gnome-common

2009-12-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 09:05:00AM -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 05:39 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: This is a heads up that I'm going to orphan gnome-common. I don't do any gtk programming anymore so it doesn't make sense for me to keep this package. mclasen has

Orphaning gnome-common

2009-12-04 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
This is a heads up that I'm going to orphan gnome-common. I don't do any gtk programming anymore so it doesn't make sense for me to keep this package. mclasen has done several of the recently needed updates to this package; if he and the desktop team would like to take it over let me know; I'll

Re: 190 packages with .la file(s)

2009-11-30 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 01:25:08PM +0100, Pierre-Yves wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 13:12 +0100, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: sugar-base-0.86.0-1.fc12.x86_64 : Base Sugar library I'm co-maintaining it, so I'll try to have a look at this one. I'm just pointing out this : Note that

Re: Security testing: need for a security policy, and a security-critical package process

2009-11-24 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 06:10:59PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 19:38 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: How that translates in packages and defaults is not really the most important part, but the plan is to have strict package defaults + a policy package that makes

Re: jack2

2009-11-23 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 04:23:23PM -0500, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Andy Shevchenko wrote: Hello. Nowadays the jack project has two branches - old jack (1) branch with version 0.116.2 and new one called jack2 version 1.9.3. I'd like to gather opinions and

Re: Old/compat package naming

2009-11-23 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 05:34:40PM +0100, Lubomir Rintel wrote: Hi, Alexander pointed out that I was suggesting a wrong name for Saxon 9 package [1]. In fact there's a couple of packages in repositories now that violate the naming policy [2] in the very same way. Apart from wondering what

Re: [RFA] Your [PACKAGE_NAME] did not pass QA

2009-11-23 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 09:00:22PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le lundi 23 novembre 2009 à 13:48 -0600, Chris Adams a écrit : Once upon a time, Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net said: Le lundi 23 novembre 2009 à 09:51 -0700, Jerry James a écrit : 1) I'm going to nag you

Re: Security testing: need for a security policy, and a security-critical package process

2009-11-23 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 05:55:15PM -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 14:08 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: It's not QA's role to define exactly what the security policy should look like or what it should cover, but from the point of view of testing, what we really need are

Re: A silly question about our FC tag

2009-11-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:52:42PM -0500, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: It's a hack. It's Fedora-specific, so doesn't belong in RPM (or anything else). And RPM will no longer produce predictable versioning. My proposed hack's outcome is quite predictable. I just faced this same attitude in

Re: Question about tagging

2009-11-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 08:50:06PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 00:50 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: And why can't all this be done with s/git/SVN/? All we really need apart from what CVS already provides is atomic commit IDs, to make the maintainers would not tag

Re: allow adding repos in preupdate?

2009-11-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 06:46:59AM -0500, Neal Becker wrote: I'd like to add my favorite repo. Possible? I thought preupgrade already took whatever repos you have enabled in yum. Do you want it to have UI for selecting repositories? Or something else? -Toshio pgpxlKePkYGCm.pgp Description:

FYI: packageDB URL changes coming up

2009-11-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
This is a heads up for people using the PackageDB in scripts. The plan is to have the 0.5.x PackageDB deployed in infrastructure no later than Fedora 13 Alpha (currently penciled in as 2010-02-09). This release will include major changes in the URL structure and a few removals of unused methods.

Re: F12: where did window properties go?

2009-11-19 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 07:03:53PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org writes: On 11/19/2009 05:00 AM, Tom Lane wrote: So I just spent a frustrating little while looking for the focus-follows-mouse setting on a fairly-vanilla F12 installation. As far as I can

Re: A silly question about our FC tag

2009-11-17 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:08:15AM -0500, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 17:11 -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: Actually not if done in conjunction with a release bump, such as we do with a mass rebuild. Only if we

Re: Identifying remaining core font users

2009-11-13 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 03:36:14PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: I'm no fan of Python either, but there is a fairly simple JSON API to the package database. eg: wget -O ocaml.json 'https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/ocaml?tg_format=json' which gave me a huge

Re: FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12

2009-11-12 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 02:56:42PM -0500, James Laska wrote: Greetings folks, After careful review by Will Woods around recently discovered problems related to preupgrading to Fedora 12, I've filed ticket#270 (https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/270) for discussion at the next FESCO

Re: FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12

2009-11-12 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
Sorry for breaking thread: There are definitely workarounds available, but none that meet the criteria for preupgrade as an effortless upgrade option. So I'm a bit confused by what is so hard here. preupgrade starts up, finds it can't store stage2, and then tells you that you'll need to have

Re: FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12

2009-11-12 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:27:28PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: Toshio Kuratomi (a.bad...@gmail.com) said: There are definitely workarounds available, but none that meet the criteria for preupgrade as an effortless upgrade option. So I'm a bit confused by what is so hard here

Re: rpm %verify

2009-11-11 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 10:43:58AM -0500, Steve Grubb wrote: On Thursday 05 November 2009 10:27:30 am Bill Nottingham wrote: Steve Grubb (sgr...@redhat.com) said: I have 2 bugzillas asking for %verify to be added to %config files. I am wondering if this is a good idea at all. The issue is

Re: What to do with package that wants to use sse?

2009-10-31 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 09:33:13AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2009-10-31 at 09:29 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: That is very useful information. It sounds like I will want to do this for this package, since enabling sse2 will turn on the sse instructions and sse2 might turn out

Re: Proposal: naming convention for Python 3 packages and subpackages

2009-10-29 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 06:27:35PM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: Current naming conventions for Python packages are in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/NamingGuidelines#Addon_Packages_.28python_modules.29 I rather like the idea of standardizing on a python3- prefix for _all_ Python 3

Re: the mass rebuild and i586 rpms?

2009-10-25 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 02:37:57AM +0200, Milos Jakubicek wrote: Newpackage (some of them even for months!): python-decorator3 Please do not rebuild this one. It's currently just a forwards compat package for EL-5. I'll dead.package the devel package soon. zikula-module-filterutil Please

Re: Action Tags concept

2009-10-23 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 04:46:36PM +0200, Martin Bacovsky wrote: On Thursday 22 October 2009 16:33:06 you wrote: I like this concept. How does it relate to tagging? * As a replacement for tagging * As a separate feature from tagging * In addition to tagging where some output utilizes

Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

2009-10-21 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:11:37AM +0100, Steven Whitehouse wrote: Hi, Jim Parsons left Red Hat a little while back and the only contact details I have is his Red Hat email address, which is of course no longer valid. I've opened a bugzilla #530027 as per the unresponsive maintainer

Re: Passing on ownership for a package...

2009-10-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:23:45AM -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: Is there any process for handing over package ownership? I have a package that I'm wanting to give to another maintainer. Can I simply reassign ownership to him, or is there something else needed first? Note, if you want to

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-16 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 12:58:39PM +0800, Steven James Drinnan wrote: I recently installed gestikk. And to my horror one of the dialogs said. (Check Box) F*** off No lie, So how does one recommend that this be removed. What we'll probably do is patch the code to have a less obscene

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-16 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:29:46PM +0200, Haïkel Guémar wrote: Le 16/10/2009 19:19, Toshio Kuratomi a écrit : On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 12:58:39PM +0800, Steven James Drinnan wrote: I recently installed gestikk. And to my horror one of the dialogs said. (Check Box) F*** off No lie

Re: tagging of non critical path package into F-12?

2009-10-15 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 08:59:13AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Conrad Meyer ceme...@u.washington.edu wrote: If they're not on any of the official spins, what benefit does tagging them into dist-f12 provide over having them as updates? (Pushing updates is

Re: Switching python-setuptools to distribute

2009-10-13 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 12:52:30PM +0100, Mat Booth wrote: I was unaware of all this. Is there a reason why the setuptools author will not grant commit rights to others? Going solely on your email it seems like a fork would be unnecessary if he was willing to share the workload... He

Re: rpms/libXres/devel .cvsignore, 1.9, 1.10 libXres.spec, 1.26, 1.27 sources, 1.10, 1.11

2009-10-13 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 01:21:38PM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: atropine:~% repoquery --whatprovides 'pkgconfig(xext)' libXext-devel-0:1.0.99.4-3.fc12.i686 atropine:~% repoquery --requires libXext-devel | grep pkg pkgconfig pkgconfig(x11) pkgconfig(xextproto) So, whatever. Clearly the

Switching python-setuptools to distribute

2009-10-12 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
I've been a comaintainer of the python-setuptools package for a long time and recently became the owner when icon relinquished it. It is currently a tumultuous time for distributing python modules with a new and active maintainer for distutils inside of the python stdlib and a fork of setuptools

Re: Howto handle multilib conflict?

2009-10-12 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:17:16AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 18:05 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:47:59 -0700, Adam wrote: Of course, that turns the larger question into 'why do we put i686 -devel packages in the x86-64 repo, not just

distribute vs setuptools

2009-10-08 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
So I just read this piece of news on the distutils-sig list. Here's a summary/background. setuptools has become increasingly popular as a method of making python modules easier to package (by upstream), managing plugins, and getting version requirements right. However, the setuptools author has

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-10-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 10/02/2009 04:53 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: A important oddness of the feature process is that it is not actually necessary for the feature to be in the distribution. So you send a nag mail, feature owners ignores it, you drop the feature and the functionality is still there. So unless the

Trade review for two zikula packages

2009-10-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
Hi, Anyone want to trade reviews for two zikula packages? We want to get them approved and in so that Fedora Insight can be deployed with them for Fedora 12. Mel Chua and Rahul are in charge of them but I packaged one of them and the other I reworked a bit. I don't feel comfortable reviewing

Re: Proposal: Python 3 in Fedora 13

2009-10-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 10/02/2009 08:48 AM, Colin Walters wrote: On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Haïkel Guémar karlthe...@gmail.com wrote: *BSD, fellow GNU/Linux distro like Debian [...] are able to ship multiples python stacks In Debian's case of course there are actually *two* separate Python systems ;)

Re: Proposal: Python 3 in Fedora 13

2009-10-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 10/02/2009 02:28 PM, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: Since yum is available during build, this would work (but is fugly): - build as normal - push out python2 files to buildroot - after everything else is done, yum remove python-devel yum install python3-devel - build python3 modules

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-10-01 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 10/01/2009 03:10 AM, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: 2009/9/14 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com Hi, everyone. We - the QA group - have recently been researching the feasibility of using zsync to reduce the size of live image downloads. This has hit a roadblock in the form of the problem

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-10-01 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 10/01/2009 09:42 AM, Jonathan Underwood wrote: 2009/10/1 Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com: A) You're a coder and want to get your hands dirty with the rsync protocol. Check out how librsync manages to use the system zlib and if possible to do this compatibly, apply it to zsync and rsync

Re: Proposal: Python 3 in Fedora 13

2009-10-01 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 10/01/2009 11:11 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Oct 1, 2009, at 10:59, Josh Boyer jwbo...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 01:15:09PM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: Scoping: - this work would target Fedora 13. I'd avoid pushing it into F12 until it's proven safe to do so I'm

Re: Proposal: Python 3 in Fedora 13

2009-10-01 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 10/01/2009 10:15 AM, David Malcolm wrote: Proposal: Python 3 in Fedora 13 Evolutionary, not revolutionary: build a python 3 stack parallel-installable with the python 2 stack. First: Overall +1. Note: liberally snipped, throughout. = Proposal = Where I would draw the line is on

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-30 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/30/2009 10:43 AM, Michael Schroeder wrote: On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:27:44AM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: So... that means the custom zlib isn't necessary to the proper operation of deltarpm, correct? I haven't looked at where in the code this is being used yet but I'm guessing

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-30 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/29/2009 09:24 AM, James Antill wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 08:07 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On 09/29/2009 05:00 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 09/29/2009 05:14 PM, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: Seems that violations of the guidelines are not so important like the violation

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-30 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/30/2009 11:34 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On 09/30/2009 10:43 AM, Michael Schroeder wrote: AFAIK the current rpm uses the system's zlib library, so the deltarpm copy is also no longer needed for Fedora. Interesting. That's slightly puzzling though. That would mean that deltarpm

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-29 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/29/2009 05:00 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 09/29/2009 05:14 PM, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: Seems that violations of the guidelines are not so important like the violation of the Trademark (The hunting of fedora related sites, like blogs or forums with adhesions contracts)... Are the

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Exemption for bundling local copy of system library?

2009-09-29 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/29/2009 11:37 AM, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: Hi, Oolite http://oolite.org is currently undergoing review, and a stumbling block is in its use of its own copy of libjs. An upstream developer is participating in the review and has a clear explanation for the rationale:

Re: sugar-pippy dependencies

2009-09-29 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/29/2009 12:51 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Hello, the sugar-pippy rpm in Fedora depends on pygame, which is used by some of the examples. So far, so good, but pygame in turn depends on numpy, a 7.7MB package

Re: sugar-pippy dependencies

2009-09-29 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/29/2009 01:52 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: I admit I'm not following sugar and numpy discussions too closely so I might have missed it but I don't remember this. I do remember talking about removing the numpy

Re: sugar-pippy dependencies

2009-09-29 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/29/2009 02:11 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: rawhide, I think the numpy support was just dropped from pygtk2 as opposed to fixing the dependencies in numpy themselves. numpy still depends on atlas and various other stuff. I'm not sure what the impact of either changes are, I'd have to dig

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-09-29 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/29/2009 05:38 PM, Steve Dickson wrote: On 09/29/2009 08:17 PM, John Poelstra wrote: [...snip...] I want to be perfectly clear that I'm not sounding an all clear on this by any means. If your answer here means that this change hasn't been thoroughly tested, you're going to have a hard

Re: yum-presto not on by default

2009-09-23 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/23/2009 09:46 PM, James Antill wrote: On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 17:22 +0200, Till Maas wrote: This is all under the assumption, that delta rpm creation from a xz compressed rpm to a gzip compressed rpm works. Yeh, I don't know the answer to that. I'd _guess_ that it would work, but

Re: should file ncrack-services go to /etc?

2009-09-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/22/2009 02:43 AM, Martin Gieseking wrote: Am 21.09.2009 23:24, Till Maas wrote: On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 04:58:32PM -0400, Casey Dahlin wrote: On 09/21/2009 04:04 PM, Till Maas wrote: On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 08:47:24PM +0200, Martin Gieseking wrote: during the review of ncrack

Anyone know jgranado?

2009-09-18 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
Hi, is jgranado reading this list or anyone know where he is? We're having a problem with the way he's setup his FAS account and bugzilla account. If he can get in touch with me I can straighten everything out. If not, we'll eventually need to orphan his packages to stop the errors we're

Re: Possible packages...

2009-09-17 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/17/2009 07:48 AM, R P Herrold wrote: 2009/7/13 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com: The Infrastructure group has a rather ongoing project to try and find a really good calendar server system (and then, obviously, package it) ... It's proved a bit tricky, though, to find a really

Re: New pacage, not sure where to start, or pehaps I have started but don't know where to end

2009-09-17 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/17/2009 10:07 AM, Scott McCarty wrote: All, I am working on distributing a log analysis utility wrote called petit (http://opensource.eyemg.com/index.php/Petit). Currently, I am treating it more like a regular application than a python module because it comes with

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-16 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/16/2009 12:42 AM, Tomas Mraz wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 14:01 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On 09/15/2009 01:29 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: Sorry but the packager may have no way to influence upstream. And to be honest having a huge patch against rsync and/or zsync to extract a library

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-16 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/16/2009 08:39 AM, Simo Sorce wrote: On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 08:10 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: This is a logical leap. rsync has forked zlib but they are only using the fork internally. 2 and 3 get that fork out in the open so that more than one program can use it. 2 and 3

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-15 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/15/2009 04:44 AM, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: Hey, I googled for it and found Karims blogpost and Simon aka kassamedias answer (comment 3) http://kparal.wordpress.com/2009/09/01/zsync-transfer-large-files-efficiently/ I will note that the reply is not quite right. We can have

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-15 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/15/2009 01:10 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: Toshio Kuratomi wrote: This would be great if maintainers were willing to fix issues after the fact. Look at rsync -- there's no incentive to fix the library issue at this point because rsync is already in the distribution. We need to fix

Re: Question concerning bundled SQLite in Fossil tarball

2009-09-10 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/10/2009 05:14 AM, Martin Gieseking wrote: Hi, I'd like to see the distributed SCM Fossil (www.fossil-scm.org) packaged for Fedora because I find the concept of the tool quite attractive. There was already a review request for it in bugzilla:

Licensing policy for apps developed by Fedora Infrastructure now in effect

2009-09-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
Over the past few months, Fedora Infrastructure has been discussing having a consistent set of licenses for applications and scripts we create for Fedora. The goals of doing this were to * Be able to share code among the various programs that we write. * Not have our libraries force a specific

Re: Directory draft (was Re: Triggers just to avoid unowned directories?)

2009-09-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/02/2009 08:47 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote: Michel Alexandre Salim (michael.silva...@gmail.com) said: Multi-ownership seems *far* preferable to me than using triggers to move files around, or moving a prelink-specific directory to the base filesystem package. Then the guidelines should

Re: fedora-pkgdb: make it discoverable on browser home page?

2009-08-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 08/26/2009 02:33 AM, drago01 wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Martin Bacovskymbaco...@redhat.com wrote: On Monday 24 August 2009 14:36:09 drago01 wrote: On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Toshio Kuratomia.bad...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/23/2009 10:50 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Aren't

Re: fedora-pkgdb: make it discoverable on browser home page?

2009-08-24 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 08/24/2009 07:31 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 14:36 +0200, drago01 wrote: On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Toshio Kuratomia.bad...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/23/2009 10:50 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Aren't we pitching Fedora Community interface as the end user facing thing,

Re: fedora-pkgdb: make it discoverable on browser home page?

2009-08-23 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 08/23/2009 10:06 AM, Michel Salim wrote: Hi Adam, Thanks for the wonderful fedora-pkgdb search engine! I was wondering -- since it's a standard opensearch plugin, whether it would be a good idea or not to make it auto-discoverable on *.fedoraproject.org, especially

Re: fedora-pkgdb: make it discoverable on browser home page?

2009-08-23 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 08/23/2009 10:50 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Aren't we pitching Fedora Community interface as the end user facing thing, going forward? It seems some of these features will overlap or duplicate it. It's possible. The packagedb is going to be the backend for the Fedora Community Front end

Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-08-20

2009-08-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 08/20/2009 04:18 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:19:39AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: Is it just me or are there some packages that seem to be eternally on this list? beage/f-spot/tomboy never seem to go anywhere. They're eternally broken on ppc64. Mostly due to Mono

Re: Confusion with openal-soft

2009-08-17 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 08/16/2009 11:52 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 00:30:31 +0900, Mamoru wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote, at 08/16/2009 11:47 PM +9:00: On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:39:37 +0900, Mamoru wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote, at 08/16/2009 09:29 PM +9:00: On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:04:14

Re: pygtk2 and its numpy dependency

2009-08-11 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 08/10/2009 12:36 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: pygtk2 implements a function called gtk.gdk.get_pixels_array(), which returns the pixel contents of a GDK pixbuf as a numpy array. Fine and dandy, but this means it links against numpy (7 megs) which is itself linked against atlas (12 megs). Kind

Re: KDE vs. GNOME on F10

2009-08-06 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 08/06/2009 09:43 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 09:24 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: We either have to make it clear which policy we use and which policy we don't, and hence which theoretical user base we are not targeting, or take on extra work and try to satisfy both. I am

Re: KDE vs. GNOME on F10

2009-08-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 08/05/2009 11:47 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: And maintainers can choose whether or not they want to take on the work of shipping updates in the adventurous repository. How does this work? It would seem that the adventurous repository would be mandatory as something that changes ABI would

Re: KDE vs. GNOME on F10

2009-08-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 08/05/2009 12:11 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 11:58 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Also, having the expectation that the other repository is for security updates doesn't address the problem of a security release breaking ABI. That's rather unlikely (well, except

Re: KDE vs. GNOME on F10

2009-08-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 08/05/2009 01:04 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 12:44 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Sure, this is comparable to the present situation. But it doesn't seem like it makes things much better. * It doesn't solve the original poster's issue (that the GNOME stack isn't

Re: KDE vs. GNOME on F10

2009-08-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 08/05/2009 02:26 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 13:25 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Sure. I'm just pointing out that you're trying to solve a different problem than either the original poster or Thorsten. (And now that I understand your problem better, perhaps yours

Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 10 - 2009-08-03

2009-08-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 08/03/2009 02:19 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: The following packages in the repository suffer from broken dependencies: == The results in this summary consider Test Updates!

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-31

2009-07-31 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 07/31/2009 01:01 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 01:20:12AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 08/01/2009 01:14 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Sat, 2009-08-01 at 00:58 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: I don't think anybody is going to argue that extracting source from srpm or pulling

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-31

2009-07-31 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 07/31/2009 01:47 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 02:00:10AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Even if they do want to go to this extend, we don't need to grant them special exceptions. We can recommend that the projects used a proper project hosting facility and leave it at that.

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-31

2009-07-31 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 07/31/2009 01:48 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 01:09:43PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On Sat, 2009-08-01 at 01:20 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: That's kind of side tracking though. Point is that SRPM as upstream source is simply a stupid thing. We would complain loudly or

python-fedora license change

2009-07-30 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
python-fedora-0.3.14 is the last release that will be GPLv2. Future releases will be LGPLv2+. This is a move to a more permissive license so there shouldn't be any new incompatibilities. -Toshio signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: [RFE] Auto-approve watchcommits and watchbugzilla in Pkgdb (2nd try)

2009-07-29 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 07/29/2009 01:59 AM, Till Maas wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 01:54:20PM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: It was in my post to the last thread:: Is someone in a position to verify whether setting security flags on a bug prevents someone who would be put in the CC list by the default cc

Re: [RFE] Auto-approve watchcommits and watchbugzilla in Pkgdb (2nd try)

2009-07-29 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 07/29/2009 08:20 AM, Till Maas wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 07:12:00AM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On 07/29/2009 07:05 AM, Till Maas wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 06:30:27AM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Is the same thing true of watching a person? till, I'm now watching till

Re: [RFE] Auto-approve watchcommits and watchbugzilla in Pkgdb (2nd try)

2009-07-29 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 07/29/2009 08:41 PM, Peter Lemenkov wrote: 2009/7/29 Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com: Okay, please test this with a package that has people on the initial CC list so we've tested precisely the behaviour people are concerned about. If the initialcclist is not set when a security bug

Re: [RFE] Auto-approve watchcommits and watchbugzilla in Pkgdb (2nd try)

2009-07-28 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel/67465 (2007-10-26, started by Toshio Kuratomi) http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel/94641 (2008-10-12, started by Patrice Dumas) http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel/116848 (2009-07-06, started by me) -- With best regards, Peter Lemenkov

Re: Orphans on the chopping block for F12

2009-07-28 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 07/28/2009 03:48 PM, Mat Booth wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Mat Boothfed...@matbooth.co.uk wrote: Well, we should probably make sure maven still works since a bunch of projects probably depend on this to build, so I can take these. I'm fast becoming a one man Java SIG. :-/

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