Re: [Fontconfig] TTF/OTF packaging thoughts?

2008-07-25 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 14:06 +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the advantage to pack TrueType and CFF OpenType? I guess, the shareable contents are limited as TTC-packed CFF OpenType, so, such request comes from the people looking for an easy archiver of font files. Yes, I was just

Re: TTF/OTF packaging thoughts?

2008-07-25 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 10:31 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: All, After the discussion on two public lists, and some public and private exchanges on IRC with people whose opinion I respect a lot, since no one proposed a problem-free way to do dual format packaging, and many objected to all

Re: [Fontconfig] TTF/OTF packaging thoughts?

2008-07-24 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mer 23 juillet 2008 21:45, James Cloos a écrit : Nicolas == Nicolas Mailhot [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nicolas Can you patch fontconfig so apps get OTF (OpenType CFF) Nicolas versions by default, unless they explicitely request OpenType Nicolas TTF files? (when the same version of the

Fwd: TTF/OTF packaging thoughts?

2008-07-24 Thread Vasile Gaburici
-- Forwarded message -- From: Vasile Gaburici [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:51 AM Subject: Re: TTF/OTF packaging thoughts? To: Nicolas Mailhot [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree with all your points. Regarding point 7, I'm going to emphasize, as you did previously

TTF/OTF packaging thoughts?

2008-07-23 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Hi all, We have several issues posing the problem of dual OTF/TTF fonts packaging. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=456345 http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455995 Till now we've managed to avoid this issue, however it seems we can't escape Fedora guidelines on the subject

Re: TTF/OTF packaging thoughts?

2008-07-23 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mer 23 juillet 2008 12:23, Vasile Gaburici a écrit : I'll share my thoughts in more detail later -- I'm in a hurry now. One bit I was going to say: On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Nicolas Mailhot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. I don't know what algorithm fontconfig uses to choose between

Re: TTF/OTF packaging thoughts?

2008-07-23 Thread Jon Stanley
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:53 AM, Nicolas Mailhot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, We have several issues posing the problem of dual OTF/TTF fonts packaging. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=456345 http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455995 Till now we've managed to avoid

Re: TTF/OTF packaging thoughts?

2008-07-23 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 10:53 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Hi all, We have several issues posing the problem of dual OTF/TTF fonts packaging. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=456345 http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455995 Till now we've managed to avoid this issue,

Re: TTF/OTF packaging thoughts?

2008-07-23 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 23 juillet 2008 à 11:51 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit : On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 10:53 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: 2. I don't know what algorithm fontconfig uses to choose between several formats of the same fonts, or even if its choices are stable. It uses the version number

Re: TTF/OTF packaging thoughts?

2008-07-23 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 23 juillet 2008 à 14:36 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit : On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 20:14 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Can you patch fontconfig so apps get OTF (OpenType CFF) versions by default, unless they explicitely request OpenType TTF files? (when the same version of the

Re: TTF/OTF packaging thoughts?

2008-07-23 Thread Vasile Gaburici
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Nicolas Mailhot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In practice you can approximate cubic splines by just cutting cubic segments in many quadratic ones, which font editors like fontforge do automatically, and at the sizes text is typically rendered there's no visible