Re: [Fontconfig] Is code point substitution inside the same font possible with fontconfing?

2008-07-20 Thread Vasile Gaburici
correctly? On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Nicolas Mailhot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le samedi 19 juillet 2008 à 23:00 +0300, Vasile Gaburici a écrit : Briefly, I want to alter the code point of a request before passing it to the font library (freetype2 in my case). The recoding that needs

Adobe FDK under wine? Or similar FOSS tool?

2008-07-20 Thread Vasile Gaburici
Editing OpenType feature tables with fontforge is a big PITA. Adding a locl table to Linux Libertine, see [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Tasks/Ro_fonts#Linux_Libertine], took me three hours (testing included). And that just for the regular font. Parts of the table are (or rather should be)

Re: Adobe FDK under wine? Or similar FOSS tool?

2008-07-20 Thread Vasile Gaburici
P.S.: here is a sample feature file for Adobe Minion Pro (2004) made public by Adobe: http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?233@@.3bb58628!enclosure=.3bb58629 On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Vasile Gaburici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Editing OpenType feature tables with fontforge is a big PITA. Adding

The goose OpenType eggs holds...

2008-07-20 Thread Vasile Gaburici
I've found CFF OpenType versions of the ghostscript URW fonts. AFAICT, they are well done: have kerning pairs (using the correct 'kern' feature for CFF files), has ligatures etc. They also fix the missing mappings for Romanian (no locl table yet...). The only troublesome point may that the author

Fwd: [Fontforge-devel] Cannot import GSUB .fea file

2008-07-20 Thread Vasile Gaburici
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, 2008-07-19 at 17:35, Vasile Gaburici wrote: I exported a GSUB table to a .fea file and edited it there. But importing back doesn't work. When I click on the Import right above Save Feature File nothing happens. That's not what import is supposed to do. It should not have

Re: The goose OpenType eggs holds...

2008-07-21 Thread Vasile Gaburici
:15 AM, Nicolas Mailhot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le lundi 21 juillet 2008 à 00:48 +0300, Vasile Gaburici a écrit : I've found CFF OpenType versions of the ghostscript URW fonts. AFAICT, they are well done: have kerning pairs (using the correct 'kern' feature for CFF files), has ligatures etc

Fwd: [Fwd: the ivory tower and the bazaar]

2008-07-22 Thread Vasile Gaburici
Stupid gmail doesn't reply to all recipients by default, so see below. -- Forwarded message -- From: Vasile Gaburici [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fwd: the ivory tower and the bazaar] They say a picture is worth a thousand words. [http://www.cs.umd.edu/~gaburici/linux-fonts.png

Call for OpenType fonts! [Was: Re: Fwd: [Fwd: the ivory tower and the bazaar]]

2008-07-22 Thread Vasile Gaburici
Since we are debating the state of Fedora fonts, I'd also like to add that Fedora should ship as many OpenType fonts as possible. Why? Because it (finally!) includes a decent bundle of TeX (texlive), which contains XeTeX -- a version of TeX that can use advanced OpenType features directly. XeTeX

Re: The goose OpenType eggs holds...

2008-07-22 Thread Vasile Gaburici
I've got some expert comments on the fonts. There are some issues with the conversion... Details here: http://www.typophile.com/node/47578 On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Vasile Gaburici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect the person that did the work used his employers' (very) non-free

Re: Call for OpenType fonts! [Was: Re: Fwd: [Fwd: the ivory tower and the bazaar]]

2008-07-22 Thread Vasile Gaburici
Most people using OOo probably don't have clue what features OpenType provides, mostly because they've only seen Arial and Times New Roman. So I don't expect widespread requests from the userbase... Btw, is there a way to vote for feature requests, or do we have to spam them on the forums? On

Re: packager for liberation sans derivative needed (was: Re: Call for OpenType fonts!)

2008-07-22 Thread Vasile Gaburici
I'll gladly do some testing. As for the packaging, given that it's a derivative of Liberation, perhaps someone from Redhat will step up and include them in the official package... On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Gustavo Ferreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have worked on a derivative version of

Analysis of combining diacritics support

2008-07-22 Thread Vasile Gaburici
Here's something that will make Nicolas proud. Following the discussion from [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455981] I've looked at the level of support in Fedora of combining diacritics for Romanian. The summary: - Charis Doulos SIL work perfectly - Linux Libertine works too, but

Re: contact kurditgroup

2008-07-23 Thread Vasile Gaburici
What are the implications of a GPL'd pdf? Having to give the (LaTeX or whatever) source? Having to allow others to modify said source? On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Nicolas Mailhot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michal, Many thanks for sending those (and CC-ing the list). Many thanks to

Re: TTF/OTF packaging thoughts?

2008-07-23 Thread Vasile Gaburici
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Nicolas Mailhot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In practice you can approximate cubic splines by just cutting cubic segments in many quadratic ones, which font editors like fontforge do automatically, and at the sizes text is typically rendered there's no visible

Fwd: TTF/OTF packaging thoughts?

2008-07-24 Thread Vasile Gaburici
-- Forwarded message -- From: Vasile Gaburici [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:51 AM Subject: Re: TTF/OTF packaging thoughts? To: Nicolas Mailhot [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree with all your points. Regarding point 7, I'm going to emphasize, as you did previously

Re: The goose OpenType eggs holds...

2008-07-24 Thread Vasile Gaburici
I suspect that their fonts are based on the visual designs, but not raw data of the URW fonts, otherwise GUST would be bound by the GPL, and could not change the license... As you know, font looks cannot be copyrighted in the U.S. (not sure about Europe though). So, the main question is: can

Re: The goose OpenType eggs holds...

2008-07-24 Thread Vasile Gaburici
] wrote: On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 18:29 +0300, Vasile Gaburici wrote: The GPL copyright holder for the original Type 1 fonts is URW, so they would have to send GUST notice of derived work infringement. Correct? To initiate legal proceedings, yes, but it doesn't mean that Fedora can distribute

Fwd: [Bug 456582] Review Request: tex-fontools - Tools for handling fonts with LaTeX and fontinst

2008-07-24 Thread Vasile Gaburici
Maybe somebody on this list is willing to sponsor me on this package: -- Forwarded message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:43 PM Subject: [Bug 456582] Review Request: tex-fontools - Tools for handling fonts with LaTeX and fontinst To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Proposed amendment to general packaging guidelines: no bundling of fonts in other packages

2008-07-25 Thread Vasile Gaburici
Not so fast. I have some details about this TeX font business, but I won't have time to write them down until this evening. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Nicolas Mailhot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Given what happened there: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=456580 I'm

Re: Had a look at Charis SIL

2008-07-25 Thread Vasile Gaburici
[-a attach.xml] [-t volt.txt] infile.ttf outfile.ttf Compiles volt source into OT tables in the font. Think of this as a 3rd party command-line version of MS VOLT. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Nicolas Spalinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Crossland wrote: 2008/7/24 Vasile Gaburici [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: TeX fonts, part one [Was: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Proposed amendment to general packaging guidelines: no bundling of fonts in other packages]

2008-07-25 Thread Vasile Gaburici
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Nicolas Mailhot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: — We should not hide general-purpose fonts in app-specific directories. TEX should use system fonts directly. XeTeX can do that. TeX probably NEVER will because that violates TDS. If you don't what that means, then don't

Re: TeX fonts, part one [Was: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Proposed amendment to general packaging guidelines: no bundling of fonts in other packages]

2008-07-25 Thread Vasile Gaburici
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/25 Vasile Gaburici [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I second the idea that TeX ought to be an exception to the guideline not hide general-purpose fonts in app-specific directories; TeX predates all other programs in a GNU/Linux

Re: TeXGyre fonts licensing concern

2008-07-30 Thread Vasile Gaburici
My lack of legal brain is confused on this. If URW doesn't change the license and it remains purely GPL, but the other contributors agree to re-license their parts as GLP+FontException, then what is there to be gained by this? Isn't the user bound by most restrictive license in the package, that

Best way to add a line to a config file from another package?

2008-08-11 Thread Vasile Gaburici
I need to add line to /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/config.ps to get some extra functionality enabled for lcdf-typetools, namely Type 42 support. The config.ps file is properly marked as a config file in texlive-texmf-dvips. Is there some infrastructure that's normally used to hack config files or

Font subsetting is patented?

2008-08-12 Thread Vasile Gaburici
Seems to me this way: http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6252671/description.html But IANAL... ___ Fedora-fonts-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list

Asana-Math: close but no cigar

2008-08-12 Thread Vasile Gaburici
It's nice to see that the first ( only?) FOSS OpenType math font, (and by that I mean one that has a math script, like Cambria Math), has been added to rawhide. But the font is currently useless in Fedora, because (i) our XeTeX is too old, and (ii) the unicode-math XeLaTeX package is not

Re: Asana-Math: close but no cigar

2008-08-12 Thread Vasile Gaburici
of this year, together with the release of the GUST Math font. On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 5:52 AM, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 05:41 +0300, Vasile Gaburici wrote: It's nice to see that the first ( only?) FOSS OpenType math font, STIXFonts? Well, not quite FOSS

Re: Asana-Math: close but no cigar

2008-08-12 Thread Vasile Gaburici
, Vasile Gaburici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The STIX fonts do **NOT** currently have the math OpenType script. What this means is that they have nice collection of glyphs, but no special layout features, so they're pretty useless for actually typesetting something with them. The math script, aka MATH

Re: Asana-Math: close but no cigar

2008-08-12 Thread Vasile Gaburici
: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~gaburici/uni-asana.pdf http://www.cs.umd.edu/~gaburici/uni-cambria.pdf http://www.cs.umd.edu/~gaburici/uni-stix.pdf On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Vasile Gaburici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It turns out that STIX beta fonts have a modicum of MATH table (it didn't occur

Re: Asana-Math: close but no cigar

2008-08-13 Thread Vasile Gaburici
or constructions are completely empty. Calling this release a beta was a bit of a stretch... On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Vasile Gaburici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unlike Office 2007, XeTeX checks if a font contains the math script, not the MATH table to decide whether it will work or not for Unicode math

Re: Asana-Math: close but no cigar

2008-08-13 Thread Vasile Gaburici
No, there actualy is some (unofficial?) MS documentation for MATH tables. It has been seen by both George Williams (fontforge) and Apostolos Syropoulos (asana). On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/8/13 Vasile Gaburici [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The math