Re: [fedora-india] Association with a startup in Bangalore

2009-10-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/22/2009 12:48 PM, Rangeen Basu wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Rahul Sundaram 
 We cannot accept money directly but if they are willing to share the
 cost and recoup any expenses, that is ok. Donations in-kind in other
 words.

 
 The startup has sponsored 10 freemedias including postage which I will
 be sending out next week. I talked to them and they might want to
 become a resource centre as well. They are coming up with a website of
 their own and they might want to get listed as an offline vendor too.
 They might be interested to take part in FOSS.in as well but only as
 attendees.

As attendees is fine. Engaging in a conversation is always a helpful start.

Rahul

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Re: [fedora-india] Association with a startup in Bangalore

2009-10-19 Thread Joerg Simon
On Sunday 18 October 2009 18:48:25 Rangeen Basu wrote:
 Hi
 One startup in Bangalore wants to run all their computers (around 20)
 on Fedora and requires installation, configration and network setup
 support. Is there anyone in Bangalore with proper knowledge of
 configuring servers and a linux network? I might use the help. I can
 easily take care of the installation and basic configuration part but
 regarding server setup, I am not really an expert..

I am absolutely sure that there are people who can/will do this very easily. 
Even me, as not the deepest technical person would be able to do this without 
any preparation. So i think this can be done by our contributors in Bangalore 
and around. 

Btw. i would not use Fedora for Servers. Nobody will upgrade Servers every 13 
month - and the argument they(startup company) do not care about security, is 
maybe good for them, but it is not good for Fedora when a old Fedora Server is 
abused - for the press still a Fedora System is abused. 
The Company should use CentOS for their servers it's the same family.

But! I do not think we should help a business without get something back. 
Here in Europe we call that Community Consulting where we enable companies to 
work with and on Fedora - and there is the Fedora EMEA e.V. as legal entity - 
non profit organisation - where you can spend donations for Fedora. We use this 
money for events, fad, fudcon, swag. We can save some RedHat Money and  we 
report all that to the Fedora Board.

I know that things are different in India and maybe the law does not allow 
moneyflow to a private contributor, but maybe it is possible that the startup 
Company helps as a Fedora Contributor, as example - provides proper 
accomodation for Fedora Contributors for Meet up's like foss.in or provides 
SWAG or Booth Material or simply code ;)

cu Joerg

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Re: [fedora-india] Association with a startup in Bangalore

2009-10-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/19/2009 06:29 PM, Rangeen Basu wrote:

 I have talked to them and they have agreed to pay us some money which
 I plan to use for freemedia. I don't think that will be a problem
 legally.

We cannot accept money directly but if they are willing to share the
cost and recoup any expenses, that is ok. Donations in-kind in other
words.

 Also I will let them know about FOSS.in and also know if they are
 interested to participate.

That would be good. Thanks for staying on top of this.

Rahul

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Re: [fedora-india] Association with a startup in Bangalore

2009-10-19 Thread Ashwin Mansinghka
On 19-Oct-09 6:29 PM, Rangeen Basu wrote:
 Btw. i would not use Fedora for Servers. Nobody will upgrade Servers every 13
 month - and the argument they(startup company) do not care about security, is
 maybe good for them, but it is not good for Fedora when a old Fedora Server 
 is
 abused - for the press still a Fedora System is abused.
 The Company should use CentOS for their servers it's the same family.
  
 Understood and will be conveyed to them.



I have a slightly different view Fedora is as good a server as 
CentOS or Debian or SUSE or..
Security is simply a frame of mind. In my opinion, Fedora provides a 
evolving security platform
for such new starters, they can graduate to a high security levels from 
low levels of today.
I am sure a choice of using Fedora for servers should be appreciated and 
encouraged and
supported by this forum instead of showing a different path altogether.

 Here in Europe we call that Community Consulting where we enable companies to
 work with and on Fedora - and there is the Fedora EMEA e.V. as legal entity -
 non profit organisation - where you can spend donations for Fedora. We use 
 this
 money for events, fad, fudcon, swag. We can save some RedHat Money and  we
 report all that to the Fedora Board.
  
 I have talked to them and they have agreed to pay us some money which
 I plan to use for freemedia. I don't think that will be a problem
 legally.



If it was Kolkata, I would have offered free but limited support. I like 
helping people who want to use linux
in a big way. I can help online (over internet). If costs of travel and 
accommodation can be paid for, I can
travel for a few days to the courageous users of Fedora, to provide 
initial thrust and support and confidence
building, and a little training.

 Company helps as a Fedora Contributor, as example - provides proper
 accomodation for Fedora Contributors for Meet up's like foss.in or provides
  
 They are extremely small now with very limited budget, but I will stay
 in touch with them and check if they can help in any way.

 Also I will let them know about FOSS.in and also know if they are
 interested to participate.



Everything starts small, the ones which make it big are those which make 
the right choices, however
tough and challenging those choices may tun out to be. Best of Lucks.

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Re: [fedora-india] Association with a startup in Bangalore

2009-10-19 Thread Amit Pundir

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From: Ashwin Mansinghka ashwin_...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Mon, 19 October, 2009 11:36:05 PM
Subject: Re: [fedora-india] Association with a startup in Bangalore

On 19-Oct-09 6:29 PM, Rangeen Basu wrote:
 Btw. i would not use Fedora for Servers. Nobody will upgrade Servers every 
 13
 month - and the argument they(startup company) do not care about security, 
 is
 maybe good for them, but it is not good for Fedora when a old Fedora Server 
 is
 abused - for the press still a Fedora System is abused.
 The Company should use CentOS for their servers it's the same family.
  
 Understood and will be conveyed to them.



I have a slightly different view Fedora is as good a server as 
CentOS or Debian or SUSE or..
Security is simply a frame of mind. In my opinion, Fedora provides a 
evolving security platform
for such new starters, they can graduate to a high security levels from 
low levels of today.
I am sure a choice of using Fedora for servers should be appreciated and 
encouraged and
supported by this forum instead of showing a different path altogether.

We are also using fedora for as server and its working nicely.

 Here in Europe we call that Community Consulting where we enable companies 
 to
 work with and on Fedora - and there is the Fedora EMEA e.V. as legal entity 
 -
 non profit organisation - where you can spend donations for Fedora. We use 
 this
 money for events, fad, fudcon, swag. We can save some RedHat Money and  we
 report all that to the Fedora Board.
  
 I have talked to them and they have agreed to pay us some money which
 I plan to use for freemedia. I don't think that will be a problem
 legally.



i with my other friend can help these people, i am not sure what all
things has to be done, yes i do have setup our college lab where we
have some 70 machines two webservers backup using rsync , nat using
iptables .. if i can get exact idea of the things to be done we can
provide a helping hand,

If it was Kolkata, I would have offered free but limited support. I like 
helping people who want to use linux
in a big way. I can help online (over internet). If costs of travel and 
accommodation can be paid for, I can
travel for a few days to the courageous users of Fedora, to provide 
initial thrust and support and confidence
building, and a little training.

as we have good support online, things can be
done with help of each other.

 Company helps as a Fedora Contributor, as example - provides proper
 accomodation for Fedora Contributors for Meet up's like foss.in or provides
  
 They are extremely small now with very limited budget, but I will stay
 in touch with them and check if they can help in any way.

 Also I will let them know about FOSS.in and also know if they are
 interested to participate.



Everything starts small, the ones which make it big are those which make 
the right choices, however
tough and challenging those choices may tun out to be. Best of Lucks.


Amit Pundir
Kormangala, Bangalore



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