Re: Spinning kernel-vanilla packages via standard spec

2007-03-30 Thread Roland McGrath
> I kinda like it in %name whichever route we go here. Along the same > lines as Ingo's kernel-rt packages, it makes it easier to install them > in parallel with normal kernels for testing. I was just remembering about Ingo's -rt builds. I hadn't looked. What he uses is nearly identical to wh

Re: Needed: An easier way to build a subset of kernel packages

2007-03-30 Thread Roland McGrath
> Ooh, I like it... Along those lines, what if we had Makefile include a > Makefile.local if it existed, which was .cvsignore'd? Then you could > tweak your local default build prefs to your hearts content without > having to worry about accidentally committing them... Actually you can write yo

Re: Needed: An easier way to build a subset of kernel packages

2007-03-30 Thread Jarod Wilson
David Woodhouse wrote: On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 21:20 -0400, Jarod Wilson wrote: Hrm, not sure why that doesn't pass the option through, but I hadn't even thought to look at the Makefile to see how these flags would work at that level. Out of curiosity, does the following work?: $ make RPM_DEFIN

Re: Spinning kernel-vanilla packages via standard spec

2007-03-30 Thread Jarod Wilson
Roland McGrath wrote: It is. And I was under the impression that's what Dave was thinking too, but I'll let him speak for himself. Well, do we want it in the package set? I figured we were talking about "informal" builds that might be put up for ftp, but not be an integrated part of the Fedora

Re: Needed: An easier way to build a subset of kernel packages

2007-03-30 Thread David Woodhouse
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 21:20 -0400, Jarod Wilson wrote: > Hrm, not sure why that doesn't pass the option through, but I hadn't > even thought to look at the Makefile to see how these flags would work > at that level. Out of curiosity, does the following work?: > > $ make RPM_DEFINES="--define 'wi

Re: Needed: An easier way to build a subset of kernel packages

2007-03-30 Thread Jarod Wilson
David Woodhouse wrote: On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 01:26 -0400, Jarod Wilson wrote: Turns out the complexity of adding --with/--without support only resulted in the on/off lines at the top of the spec being slightly longer, so one can now additionally pass in, say, --without xen, on the rpmbuild lin

Re: Needed: An easier way to build a subset of kernel packages

2007-03-30 Thread David Woodhouse
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 01:26 -0400, Jarod Wilson wrote: > Turns out the complexity of adding --with/--without support only > resulted in the on/off lines at the top of the spec being slightly > longer, so one can now additionally pass in, say, --without xen, on the > rpmbuild line to disable buil

Re: Spinning kernel-vanilla packages via standard spec

2007-03-30 Thread Roland McGrath
> It is. And I was under the impression that's what Dave was thinking too, > but I'll let him speak for himself. Well, do we want it in the package set? I figured we were talking about "informal" builds that might be put up for ftp, but not be an integrated part of the Fedora world. If one rpmb

Re: Spinning kernel-vanilla packages via standard spec

2007-03-30 Thread Jarod Wilson
Roland McGrath wrote: I already got it working and posted the spec and Makefile patch here. Gah, sorry, I saw the patch, but missed that the spec mods were included in it too. (I've also got my stuff for building from git branches working now.) Nobody answered about whether they wanted it c

Re: Spinning kernel-vanilla packages via standard spec

2007-03-30 Thread Roland McGrath
I already got it working and posted the spec and Makefile patch here. (I've also got my stuff for building from git branches working now.) Nobody answered about whether they wanted it committed. I didn't do it in a way intended to produce different variant rpms called kernel-vanilla-V-R, if that's

Re: Backwards compatible module symlinks

2007-03-30 Thread Chuck Ebbert
Jon Masters wrote: > Chuck Ebbert wrote: >> At first glance it doesn't seem very hard to do something like this >> on kernel install: >> >> ln -s raid456.ko >> /lib/modules/2.6.20-1.2933.fc6/kernel/drivers/md/raid4.ko >> ln -s raid456.ko >> /lib/modules/2.6.20-1.2933.fc6/kernel/drivers/md/raid5.ko

Re: Backwards compatible module symlinks

2007-03-30 Thread Jon Masters
Chuck Ebbert wrote: At first glance it doesn't seem very hard to do something like this on kernel install: ln -s raid456.ko /lib/modules/2.6.20-1.2933.fc6/kernel/drivers/md/raid4.ko ln -s raid456.ko /lib/modules/2.6.20-1.2933.fc6/kernel/drivers/md/raid5.ko ln -s raid456.ko /lib/modules/2.6.20-1.

Re: Make "pci=nomsi" the default on 2.6.20 kernels?

2007-03-30 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 03:09:08PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > Isn't that needed though to access higher config space on PCIE ? > Or do we not have any drivers that use that yet, making it a nonissue? > Yeah, you need it to access Extended config space on PCI-Express, but the only people who need

Re: Make "pci=nomsi" the default on 2.6.20 kernels?

2007-03-30 Thread Dave Jones
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 03:04:39PM -0400, Kyle McMartin wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 01:15:28PM -0400, Chuck Ebbert wrote: > > Jay Cliburn wrote: > > > Chuck Ebbert wrote: > > >> It seems like more and more problems with PCI MSI are turning up > > >> in the 2.6.20 kernel. Discussion upstre

Re: Make "pci=nomsi" the default on 2.6.20 kernels?

2007-03-30 Thread Chuck Ebbert
Kyle McMartin wrote: >> > > Yeah, we've also turned off MMCONFIG by default. We've seen way too many > bugs that go away when they're disabled. > Now that you mention it, that looks like a good idea too. ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-ker

Backwards compatible module symlinks

2007-03-30 Thread Chuck Ebbert
At first glance it doesn't seem very hard to do something like this on kernel install: ln -s raid456.ko /lib/modules/2.6.20-1.2933.fc6/kernel/drivers/md/raid4.ko ln -s raid456.ko /lib/modules/2.6.20-1.2933.fc6/kernel/drivers/md/raid5.ko ln -s raid456.ko /lib/modules/2.6.20-1.2933.fc6/kernel/driver

Re: Make "pci=nomsi" the default on 2.6.20 kernels?

2007-03-30 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 01:15:28PM -0400, Chuck Ebbert wrote: > Jay Cliburn wrote: > > Chuck Ebbert wrote: > >> It seems like more and more problems with PCI MSI are turning up > >> in the 2.6.20 kernel. Discussion upstream concluded that maybe > >> it should have been off by default in 2.6.20, so

Re: Make "pci=nomsi" the default on 2.6.20 kernels?

2007-03-30 Thread Dave Jones
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 02:47:28PM -0400, Chuck Ebbert wrote: > Dave Jones wrote: > > > > Gets my vote too. > > I've turned off CONFIG_PCI_MSI and turned it back on about 2-3 times > > now for FC5/FC6, because each time it starts to look more promising, > > it seems to find new ways to regre

Re: Make "pci=nomsi" the default on 2.6.20 kernels?

2007-03-30 Thread Chuck Ebbert
Dave Jones wrote: > > Gets my vote too. > I've turned off CONFIG_PCI_MSI and turned it back on about 2-3 times > now for FC5/FC6, because each time it starts to look more promising, > it seems to find new ways to regress. > > I might do a build next week in rawhide with it off again too, > to see

Spinning kernel-vanilla packages via standard spec

2007-03-30 Thread Jarod Wilson
A little follow-on to the "Longing for git-bisect" thread, in a newly-created/subjected thread... So, I've been poking around in the kernel spec file extensively the past few days already... Any objections to my attempting to implement the building of a kernel-vanilla package as well? Roland, not

Re: Something is changing the firmware loading timeout

2007-03-30 Thread Chuck Ebbert
Chuck Ebbert wrote: > >> +printk(KERN_INFO >> + "firmware_class: attempt to set timeout to %d\n", >> + loading_timeout); This message triggered during boot, so something /was/ screwing with the timeout. Now it stays at 60 sec

Re: Make "pci=nomsi" the default on 2.6.20 kernels?

2007-03-30 Thread Dave Jones
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 02:03:23PM -0400, Chuck Ebbert wrote: > Pete Zaitcev wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:00:12 -0400, Chuck Ebbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> It seems like more and more problems with PCI MSI are turning up > >> in the 2.6.20 kernel. Discussion upstream conclude

Re: Make "pci=nomsi" the default on 2.6.20 kernels?

2007-03-30 Thread Chuck Ebbert
Pete Zaitcev wrote: > On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:00:12 -0400, Chuck Ebbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> It seems like more and more problems with PCI MSI are turning up >> in the 2.6.20 kernel. Discussion upstream concluded that maybe >> it should have been off by default in 2.6.20, so maybe we sho

Re: Make "pci=nomsi" the default on 2.6.20 kernels?

2007-03-30 Thread Pete Zaitcev
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:00:12 -0400, Chuck Ebbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems like more and more problems with PCI MSI are turning up > in the 2.6.20 kernel. Discussion upstream concluded that maybe > it should have been off by default in 2.6.20, so maybe we should > just do that in Fedor

Re: Qlogic firmware isn't in the FC7 kernel

2007-03-30 Thread Jeremy Katz
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 13:15 -0400, Chuck Ebbert wrote: > Jon Masters wrote: > > Josh Boyer wrote: > >> On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 16:16 -0400, Chuck Ebbert wrote: > >>> Apparently the qlogic drivers don't have any firmware included in FC7, > >>> so nobody can actually use a qlogic adapter. Should we be

Re: Qlogic firmware isn't in the FC7 kernel

2007-03-30 Thread Chuck Ebbert
Jon Masters wrote: > Josh Boyer wrote: >> On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 16:16 -0400, Chuck Ebbert wrote: >>> Apparently the qlogic drivers don't have any firmware included in FC7, >>> so nobody can actually use a qlogic adapter. Should we be patching the >>> kernel like in FC6 or do we need a separate pack

Re: Make "pci=nomsi" the default on 2.6.20 kernels?

2007-03-30 Thread Chuck Ebbert
Jay Cliburn wrote: > Chuck Ebbert wrote: >> It seems like more and more problems with PCI MSI are turning up >> in the 2.6.20 kernel. Discussion upstream concluded that maybe >> it should have been off by default in 2.6.20, so maybe we should >> just do that in Fedora and make people who want it us

Re: Needed: An easier way to build a subset of kernel packages

2007-03-30 Thread Jarod Wilson
Chuck Ebbert wrote: > Jarod Wilson wrote: >> Chuck Ebbert wrote: >>> Jarod Wilson wrote: >>> The minimalist approach that comes to mind is to make all the %define build* bits all set to 1/enabled by default, and only flip them to disabled where appropriate, so they'd be equivalent

Re: Make "pci=nomsi" the default on 2.6.20 kernels?

2007-03-30 Thread Jay Cliburn
Chuck Ebbert wrote: It seems like more and more problems with PCI MSI are turning up in the 2.6.20 kernel. Discussion upstream concluded that maybe it should have been off by default in 2.6.20, so maybe we should just do that in Fedora and make people who want it use "pci=msi" to enable it? It's

Re: Make "pci=nomsi" the default on 2.6.20 kernels?

2007-03-30 Thread Jon Masters
Chuck Ebbert wrote: It seems like more and more problems with PCI MSI are turning up in the 2.6.20 kernel. Discussion upstream concluded that maybe it should have been off by default in 2.6.20, so maybe we should just do that in Fedora and make people who want it use "pci=msi" to enable it? It's

Make "pci=nomsi" the default on 2.6.20 kernels?

2007-03-30 Thread Chuck Ebbert
It seems like more and more problems with PCI MSI are turning up in the 2.6.20 kernel. Discussion upstream concluded that maybe it should have been off by default in 2.6.20, so maybe we should just do that in Fedora and make people who want it use "pci=msi" to enable it? It's probably not going to

Re: Needed: An easier way to build a subset of kernel packages

2007-03-30 Thread Chuck Ebbert
Jarod Wilson wrote: > Chuck Ebbert wrote: >> Jarod Wilson wrote: >> >>> The minimalist approach that comes to mind is to make all the %define >>> build* bits all set to 1/enabled by default, and only flip them to >>> disabled where appropriate, so they'd be equivalent to your allow* idea, >>> in