Because ... why would you want to use this? Ever?
Bill
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Dave Jones (da...@redhat.com) said:
+# We only build -PAE on 686.
%ifarch i686
-%define with_up 0
%define with_pae 1
%else
%define with_pae 0
The naming of 'with_up' is subtle here. With this change,
we'll try building a '686' kernel as well as a '686-PAE'.
That was
Dave Jones (da...@redhat.com) said:
Oh, I thought that proposal got shot down.
The proposal to have the baseline be i686 + SSE2 was shot down; bare
i686 was approved.
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This is needed for the i686-by-default feature.
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Thorsten Leemhuis (fed...@leemhuis.info) said:
Yes -- all that have kernel.i686 installed now would get the new
kernel.i686 later (the one with PAE). But the latter will not boot on
all machines where the curret kernel.i686 works. If there is no
kernel.i686 (because it is named
Thorsten Leemhuis (fed...@leemhuis.info) said:
I don't see how this is a problem.
Getting rid of the suffix -PAE afaics would solve exactly the problem
that now is just exposed to more people (or might make solving it a
lot easier afaics).
Well, the problem is that you'd have to define a
Jon Masters (j...@redhat.com) said:
This works fine, but means that, if we upgrade module-init-tools and
there is a binary format change, then the system will be slow booting
before depmod has been re-run again. I'm thinking about just doing a
depmod -a on upgrade in such cases in the
Pete Zaitcev (zait...@redhat.com) said:
Intel has produced a patch, and John Linville has applied this to the 2.6.28
kernel (available from koji), but it now sounds like 2.6.28 might not make
it out soon, or ever. Can this fix be applied to the 2.6.27 branch?
Maybe the -stable team will
Dave Jones (da...@redhat.com) said:
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 03:49:20PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
This probably comes up once in a while, thought I'd raise it again.
I'd like to suggest switching the default kernel to -PAE on machines
that support it, for the following reasons:
Avi Kivity (a...@redhat.com) said:
Are Pentium Ms (really the memory that comes with them) actually capable
of running recent Fedoras? I'm talking desktop, not
I'm-using-my-laptop-as-a-firewall-just-because-I-can.
Sure, I had a T40 that had 1.5GB of memory in it, and it could have
taken
It doesn't really gain anything from being static, aside from requiring
odd udev rules and/or init scripts to load it.
Bill
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Dave Jones (da...@redhat.com) said:
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 01:17:38PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
It doesn't really gain anything from being static, aside from requiring
odd udev rules and/or init scripts to load it.
We had this discussion yesterday on irc, but I never really got
Adam Jackson (a...@redhat.com) said:
Do we have any way of querying the kernel for firmware requests it will
itself make? I don't think we do, let alone the ability to notice
pattern matches like f/m/s.
There's the MODULE_FIRMWARE tag, but it obviously doesn't handle
runtime-generated
Dave Jones ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
On Fri, Oct 03, 2008 at 11:25:49AM -0400, Peter Jones wrote:
Bill Nottingham wrote:
See various and sundry plumber's conf discussions.
Comments? (The netfilter stuff needs further investigation.)
Also, please add these, since they're
Jon Masters ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
Really? Do you have actual stats for the number (percentage) of Fedora
users that *actually* need to update their modules (as opposed to following
some blindly ridiculous message-board advice...)
Nope. I'm just taking the viewpoint that users
Dave Jones ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
linux-2.6-defaults-fat-utf8.patch
Drop?
Isn't this a local choice similar to the later ones?
linux-2.6-net-silence-noisy-printks.patch
linux-2.6-piix3-silence-quirk.patch
linux-2.6-quiet-iommu.patch
linux-2.6-silence-acpi-blacklist.patch
/1.5.18 (2008-05-17)
Jeremy Katz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 16:13 -0700, Bill Nottingham wrote:
- killing the initrd for that general 90% case can be a big win
Ermm, the general 90% (or some large-ish generalizing percentage) are
set up to use LVM. Which then requires
See various and sundry plumber's conf discussions.
Comments? (The netfilter stuff needs further investigation.)
Bill
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RCS file:
Tom spot Callaway ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 12:13 -0700, Bill Nottingham wrote:
See various and sundry plumber's conf discussions.
Comments? (The netfilter stuff needs further investigation.)
Fly on the wall here, but wouldn't demodularizing the SCSI stack cause
[1] Or someone can dig up the patches for dynamic loop allocation and
finish them off :-)
Already exists. Try 'mknod loop23 ; losetup ...'...
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Chris Snook ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
See various and sundry plumber's conf discussions.
Links please?
Not sure where things are being posted. Summary:
- modules are wasteful (you lose a good chunk of code size savings in
page round up)
- modules are slow (well, modprobe is)
- for the
As long as we're printing mostly useless messages on every boot regardless
of debug level, make them 5% more amusing.
Signed-off-by: Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- linux-2.6.26.noarch/arch/x86/kernel/head64.c.foo2008-08-01
15:44:28.0 -0400
+++ linux-2.6.26.noarch/arch/x86
Jarod Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
Ideally we'll want kernel-firmware to be a .noarch.rpm, but we can't get
that until we start to build it from a separate srpm.
We actually *can* make it noarch without much effort -- remember, the kernel
is a special beast that actually does get a
Matt Domsch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433121
DKMS would like to have the opportunity to run it's
auto-rebuilder/installer after a new kernel RPM has been installed,
without having to wait for a system restart to run it. Likewise, when
a kernel
Matt Domsch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
Use triggers - this functionality already exists without kernel-specific
infrastructure.
a) LSB suggests triggers are evil.
Then triggers must be the right answer.
b) triggers don't tell me the version of the package that got
installed that
Jason L Tibbitts III ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
MD == Matt Domsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
MD [...] there's no ordering guarantee between the two such that we
MD know kernel-devel is always installed before kernel.
It should be possible to have kernel-devel have Requires(post): kernel
Mark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
Why wouldn't it be a module like (most) other framebuffers?
Well.. vesafb is also enabled with 'y' and because uvesafb is it's
successor it seems logical to me that it also gets enabled with 'y'
(not as a module but build in). Perhaps a good idea for fedora
Mark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
AFAIK, we don't ship the tools for uvesafb, so it's a little late for
it to be a successor. How does it execute them if it's built-in, anyway?
uvesafb just got included in the 2.6.24 which isn't even final yet so
it's not 'late'.. more early than late.
Jason L Tibbitts III ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
DJ == Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DJ I think we ended up settling on putting them on
DJ people.fedoraproject.org. Given the 150MB quota, this probably
DJ means...
Actually all it means is that you need to ask for more space.
Sort
Bill Nottingham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
Here you go; sorts them into two piles (networking and block), and expands
the symbol list to catch some of the missing modules such as ahci and
some of the wireless drivers.
... committed.
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Jeremy Katz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
Depends on how many copies of the qlogic driver there are ;-)
RHEL live CDs? What's that?
(Actually, I lied - drivers/block + drivers/scsi is 1.3M compressed.)
I mean, I guess I can just do manual twiddling to rule out things that
aren't under
Jeremy Katz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
If
it's done at runtime, you can handle whatever kernel you happen to get,
even if it's not one of ours.
There are plenty of constraints we have around kernel configuration.
Asking for a file to be shipped with the kernel which tells us a little
Isn't it about time for this to die?
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Chuck Ebbert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
The arcmsr driver is in-kernel but you can't install to a
system using it for the main disk controller:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=249647
Ditto for the uli526x network driver, network installs are
impossible on systems
Chuck Ebbert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
Why do we explicitly remove atomic.h from our kernel header package?
IIRC, the reasoning was because the operations weren't actually
atomic when used from userspace; ergo, it was a bad idea to provide
them.
Bill
Axel Thimm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
Would it make sense to add these patches to Fedora's kernel?
http://www.atcomputing.nl/Tools/atop
This could help in the area of extending laptop battery life by
detecting unneccessary disk access. The first step is to have some
disk I/O to process
Axel Thimm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
These patches:
a) aren't upstream
b) change the format of /proc/stat
c) change process accounting in an incompatible way
So... no.
OK, fair enough (I wasn't aware of b) and c)).
Any other way then to achive the stated goals?
I haven't
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