On Monday 11 June 2007 19:11:00 Martin Marques wrote:
Are new packages still getting in FL? I saw some updates appear last
week for FC3 (xorg and mozilla I think).
No.
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opensource is done by paid engineers, and what isn't done by paid engineers
is most often based on what paid engineers are doing.
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to change on a month to month basis (looking at the world view).
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gotten of the ground and helped those who needed it when
they needed it.
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need updates, and make informed decisions regarding their system's future.
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in the past.
I would like to make clear that the servers are only going offline because the
project is ending, and keeping them online consumes real resources. This
consumption is unnecessary if the project is shut down.
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of
the work necessary to keep the project alive. They would be better suited
consuming updates from a product that is designed for their usage cases.
* probably lots more I'm not thinking about now, and it's late so
my reading comprehension is likely sub-par
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the message more carefully you'll see that you aren't being denied
access, only that mirrors have a special port to use that should the load
become too high only the mirrors would get access. You're perfectly capable
of rsyncing all the content you want.
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On Sunday 17 December 2006 10:20, Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) wrote:
Who can fix this?
Oops, sorry I can fix this, I've just been busy this weekend.
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to shut the doors.
Unfortunately its all take take take and no give.
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with it, by all means. I'll turn over information
about how to use the build system and push to the mirrors. I don't want to
see Legacy to touch the newer Fedora releases that might carry the new longer
lifespan, I think 13 months is the best possible compromise.
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On Tuesday 12 December 2006 14:47, Eric Rostetter wrote:
If Jesse approves, I can put the same notice on the fedoralegacy.org
web site...
Please do.
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On Tuesday 12 December 2006 15:45, Jesse Keating wrote:
If Jesse approves, I can put the same notice on the fedoralegacy.org
web site...
Please do.
And once done, I suppose I draft something up for the announce list.
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to the proposals for the longer life span,
etc...
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of decisions come AFTER we get the go ahead to open core.
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and FESCO agrees) than the 13month will fall into effect. So it
hasn't been decided yet.
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On Thursday 30 November 2006 10:32, Matthew Miller wrote:
Everyone's pretty much talking like this is a done deal. Any idea when an
official decision will be made?
I'm involved in discussions with RH management this week, and probably next
week.
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On Wednesday 29 November 2006 21:58, Matthew Miller wrote:
Okay, what more do we need to make it official?
Webpage changes to note our wrapup, reporting to the Fedora Board regarding
our project status, postings to fedora-announce-list, and then watching the
flames roll in.
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before upgrading the chance to keep
up-to-date with security fixes while they wait.
The Fedora project would be offering 13~ months of updates (security only for
the last part), which gives you the opportunity to go from say Fedora 7 to
Fedora 9 + 1 month.
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committing to testing FC6 - FC8 in one jump.
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case) from FCN to FCN+2.
So by having 13~ months you would be able to do FCN to FCN+2
How much of this is just speculation at this point, and how close is
this to being actual policy?
Depends on your feedback (:
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behind. The Legacy folks of past and present are totally awesome, and we
could really use their knowledge and eagerness to help in perhaps more
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See my blog regarding the future of Legacy as a project. Please remember
these are just proposals and not final solutions. A wiki page will follow
soon.
http://jkeating.livejournal.com/#entry_34659
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the RHEL
route and replace mozilla with seamonkey.
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On Thursday 26 October 2006 00:13, Tim Thome wrote:
Cannot find a valid baseurl...
For a temporary work around, replace the fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors
with fedoraproject.org/mirrors
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On Thursday 26 October 2006 16:07, Tim Thome wrote:
Thx, worked like a champ... wonder if this should be on the static page?
We've fixed the static pages to provide access to the mirror lists.
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, that's 9~ months. FC6
was released today, 10/24, about 7 months since FC5 was released.
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be used, such as PDF, but that's not a here nor there
question.
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On Sunday 22 October 2006 02:09, Ali Lomonaco wrote:
Just opened bugzilla #211760 for the gzip vulnerability. I just
cloned the fc5 bugzilla #207643. If no one has done any work on this
I'll backport the fix from fc5.
Thanks!!
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? That way we also get
a good test in, and have a backup if the new build system isn't working
right, etc.
Only if we agree to split RHL updates from Fedora updates and nothold one up
for the other.
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feedback when we put out a patch that 'broke'
systems).
Yikes, 10-20 hours seems CRAZY. It built, patch applied, app launches, push
it as a testing update. (sure you could do a LITTLE more testing, but trying
to fit 20 hours of heavy qa on an app is just silly)
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On Friday 20 October 2006 12:21, Jesse Keating wrote:
Yikes, 10-20 hours seems CRAZY. It built, patch applied, app launches,
push it as a testing update. (sure you could do a LITTLE more testing, but
trying to fit 20 hours of heavy qa on an app is just silly)
I should note that the only way
instead of the whole
infrastructure team?
Mostly because he owns the project.
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On Friday 20 October 2006 15:16, Eric Rostetter wrote:
Yes, if you want me to help, please add me to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You've been added.
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On Thursday 19 October 2006 11:44, Matthew Miller wrote:
When Jesse Keating worked at Pogo, that was largely true, but with his
duties at RH and with his new kid, it doesn't seem to be the case anymore.
I'm sure this is not Jesse's fault -- there needs to be commitment from
above, and that's
it to
Extras and tying into existing scripts or slightly new scripts to do most the
work would lighten the load SIGNIFICANTLY.
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it properly packaged in the Legacy repos. Extras packages can
continue to build against it at that point.
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are trying to help you.
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On Monday 14 August 2006 16:06, Eric Rostetter wrote:
This page needs to be updated to reflect FC1 and FC2 being retired...
Whoops! Thanks for catching that. (I added the FC4 too)
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parts
together:
http://download.fedoralegacy.org/fedora/4/updates/i386/legacy-yumconf-4-2.fc4.noarch.rpm
download it, use sha1sum to make sure it maches the listed sha1sum, and
install it.
I've fixed the site so that it mentions FC4, but I should have been a bit more
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On Monday 14 August 2006 16:43, James Kosin wrote:
Jesse,
I believe RH9 was retired many ages ago also.
Not from the Fedora Legacy project.
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There were a number of updates in Testing for Fedora Core 4 at time of
transition to Legacy. The Fedora Legacy Project will examine these and
re-release them as updates-testing if they are security related in the days
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for a specific version that
maybe they provide? Have you followed their instructions to the letter, on
the exact version of Fedora they are designed for? Have you asked the cpanel
company for help?
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glibc installed, I'm not
getting what its trying to do.
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a follow up when it is.
Rock!
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On Sunday 30 July 2006 09:16, G. Roderick Singleton wrote:
Nope. Not fixed. Get Err http://download.fedoralegacy.org
apt/redhat/9/i386/updates php-devel 4.2.2-17.21.legacy
It is now. Load was very high.
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On Tuesday 25 July 2006 14:28, Tim Evans wrote:
In looking into this, I see all 'rpm' commands (even simple queries) hang
in the same way. Man page doesn't mention it, but is there a lockfile
somewhere that's holding things up? Or something else?
rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db*
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then
and push them to the update repo w/out sending update announcements and such.
Any objections?
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forward my announcement on
to Fedora News.
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can and do slip from time to time)
Please direct any questions to the fedora-legacy-list@redhat.com email list.
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that was appropriate for said releases during
the time they were active. FC3 .fc3, FC4 .fc4, etc...
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in the buildroots?
I was thinking our make files don't support them, but then I realized we
aren't using any make files in any kind of CVS (:
The real solution here is to move to the Fedora infrastructure. /me posts
another email to infrastructure list asking for a cvs tree.
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On Thursday 29 June 2006 21:43, Matthew Miller wrote:
Anyone have any opinion on this?
I would think be clear that we're interested only in security related bugs.
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no objection to any removals.
Thanks Eric. I had no intention of just dropping it, but thank you for
outlining a good plan. Also I would add that at the time of 'drop' any
open bug reports for security problems would be resolved if possible.
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it as a community and come up with some reasonable
decisions.
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applications it should be fairly easy to upgrade those
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users we should follow what upstream does.
Flames? Thoughts?
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difference in going from kernel 2.4.12 to 2.4.13 versus going
from 2.4.12 to 2.6.10 (just made up version numbers, but you get the idea).
Same with going from apache 1.x.5 to 1.x.6 versus going from apache
1.x.5 to apache 2.x.y.
True, those would be insane.
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, and longer term
we're moving all this content over to fedoraproject.org so that it can
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On Mon, 2006-04-10 at 23:59 +0200, Nils Breunese (Lemonbit Internet)
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The tzdata update wan't a security issue either. I reckon this is an
issue at least somewhat like the tzdata issue.
Time being correct is something of a security issue, at a stretch.
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, and
the lifespan we can give it is a good, but if you need more, you should
probably be looking at RHEL or one of its rebuilds.
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, the private list doesn't really add much, for now you can use the
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On Wednesday 22 March 2006 10:29, Kenneth Porter wrote:
For those of us accepting mail from outside on pre-FC4 Fedora, are any
updates in the pipe to address this?
We are working on some fixed packages.
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Changelogs
rh73:
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- fixed VU#834865 (#186277)
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to using download.fedora.redhat.com as our master mirror and thus
all the rest of the Fedora mirror system.
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, but not an indefinite one.
Longer life span needs ought to be using RHEL or one of the free rebuilds.
I'd also entertain pasturing FC1 at the same time.
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the existing FC updates and the FC
tree itself around. Easier to mirror, easier to manage.
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it, however the path to make the choice is rather
easy. Flip a bit in an existing file and you're done.
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be
willing to accept packages built on a different build system? Or should
we just continue from this point forward with just FC3+ supporting
x86_64? (and set policy for if/when we get support for ppc packages)
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Sysadmins have access to
them as well, and we share of the publish space, is that not
integration? I don't think we need to shove other projects onto the
same systems that do Extras builds.
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Control Lists) any wiki page can be
locked down very securely. Also more narrow control can be given to
various parts of the wiki, like a top level Legacy page. The ACLs
provide a very good balance between openess and security.
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to keep all
the pieces.
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has far surpassed us in quantity, quality,
participation by the community, integration within Fedora itself,
community exposure, etc, etc, etc We are very much trying to play
catchup.
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of it is we are NOT a professional project. We are a
community project put together by community collaboration. A wiki
system is for exactly that, community collaboration.
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On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 11:59 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
Arg. Our upload script wasn't modified to handle x86_64 updates. I'm
fixing that now.
And check now?
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yum, but good to have that there anyway.
We need to get this echoed to the wiki much like
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legacy/YumFC2Detailed
Just make a new page named YumFC3Detailed and then link to it from the
main http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legacy page.
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plate for now.
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as not having enough community interest. This is a
very self service project. You get out of it what you put into it.
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the
patch uses is a known good patch from at least some other vendor. So
the plot to root all Legacy systems is going to have to start further up
the food chain.
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it issues into live
releases. Just food for thought.
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into released will be
lower than it is right now, and be considered testing packages.
IMHO the quality of packages hitting updates-testing is pretty on par
with the quality of packages hitting Fedora updates. So I'm not so sure
what the problem is here.
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that little to no packages
escape updates-testing w/out some QA done on it.
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appalled by is the general feeling of I should get things my
way, and it should be free I see in the Linux user community. As I've
stated before, you get out what you put in.
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establish if there is a consensus or
not.
Correct. We have some of that, although with some misunderstanding on
many sides (;
Honestly I haven't seen enough naysayers yet to discard this shortened
timeout policy.
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of, and AFAIK someone jumped to a conclusion that we
were doing away with QA and started the tail chasing we've been doing
for the past day.
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a
program anywhere that is convenient.
I am really opposed to any kind of automated testing that boils down to
'it installed here, guess it is good to go'. I want human interaction
on the packages, so I'm trying to make that human interaction easier.
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to it. But I'll take a
look at the list you come up with.
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known security fix needed, and they should be tracked on Pekka's list.
It should get easier to contribute soon with the build system changes.
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