Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-27 Thread Marc Deslauriers
On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 10:47 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > These issues should be resolved in the newer packages in > updates-testing. They're not in updates-testing yet. They're still awaiting PUBLISH votes in bugzilla. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=186277 Marc. signatu

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-27 Thread James Kosin
Jesse Keating wrote: On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 13:43 -0500, James Kosin wrote: Sounds like something didn't get built correctly. Was this a new release of sendmail or a patch? I believe my packages needed (or at least I let them build a -cf package) at one point. My version has been working fo

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-27 Thread Jesse Keating
On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 13:43 -0500, James Kosin wrote: > Sounds like something didn't get built correctly. Was this a new > release of sendmail or a patch? > I believe my packages needed (or at least I let them build a -cf > package) at one point. My version has been working for some time with

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-27 Thread James Kosin
Jesse Keating wrote: On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 16:17 -0600, Mike Klinke wrote: There is instead an entry in /usr/lib; "sendmail.sendmail" which is linked to /usr/sbin/sendmail. Also the man pages no longer work if you type; "man sendmail" You have to use "man sendmail.sendmail". This

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-27 Thread Mike McCarty
Eric Rostetter wrote: Quoting Marc Deslauriers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Curiously, sendmail actually DID get test votes for all platforms before it got moved to official updates. No part of the QA process was hastened. True, for the _current_ QA process. But not for the original QA process. I

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-27 Thread Mike McCarty
Marc Deslauriers wrote: On Sun, 2006-03-26 at 23:48 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: Ah, now we get down to the nitty gritty of the desire to hasten the process of going from a Test state to a Release state. Hopefully, those who in past have seen no need to maintain a policy of "no package can move f

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-27 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting Marc Deslauriers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Curiously, sendmail actually DID get test votes for all platforms before it got moved to official updates. No part of the QA process was hastened. True, for the _current_ QA process. But not for the original QA process. The main problem I've had

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-27 Thread Jesse Keating
On Sun, 2006-03-26 at 22:16 -0600, Eric Rostetter wrote: > All I know is that in bug 186277 it says: > > > Comment #13 From Jesse Keating on 2006-03-23 11:58 EST [reply] > >I did have advance notice and I was on vendor-sec. However like > > you said this > > was a hard hole

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-27 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I think that everybody should send Jesse big thanks for preparing I'll second that, as well. Mike Depsite any differences I have with the Fedora Legacy Project, I very much appreciate all that Jesse has done for the project. Without him there wouldn

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-27 Thread Marc Deslauriers
On Sun, 2006-03-26 at 23:48 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: > Ah, now we get down to the nitty gritty of the desire to hasten > the process of going from a Test state to a Release state. Hopefully, > those who in past have seen no need to maintain a policy of "no package > can move from Test state to Re

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-26 Thread Mike McCarty
Michal Jaegermann wrote: On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 10:24:12AM -0500, David Eisner wrote: Eric Rostetter wrote: This sounds like what happens when we rush the QA processes... Other distros had advance warning about this vulnerability, and hence more time to apply patches and do testing. Pe

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-26 Thread Mike McCarty
Eric Rostetter wrote: Quoting Jesse Keating <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 16:17 -0600, Mike Klinke wrote: There is instead an entry in /usr/lib; "sendmail.sendmail" which is linked to /usr/sbin/sendmail. Also the man pages no longer work if you type; "man sendmail" You have t

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-26 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting David Eisner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Eric Rostetter wrote: We were notified. We didn't act because it was "bad timing" for FL. On what day were you notified? -David All I know is that in bug 186277 it says: Comment #13 From Jesse Keating on 2006-03-23 11:58 EST [reply] I di

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-26 Thread Jesse Keating
On Sun, 2006-03-26 at 13:56 -0500, David Eisner wrote: > On what day were you notified? We weren't. As I said before, this was a CERT driven announcement, and only those that have a pre-existing agreement w/ CERT got the notice before the embargo date. Fedora Legacy has no such agreement w/ CERT

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-26 Thread David Eisner
Eric Rostetter wrote: We were notified. We didn't act because it was "bad timing" for FL. On what day were you notified? -David -- fedora-legacy-list mailing list fedora-legacy-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legacy-list

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-25 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting Michael Mansour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> *** ERROR: FEATURE() should be before MAILER() >> *** ERROR: FEATURE() should be before MAILER() >> *** ERROR: FEATURE() should be before MAILER() Yeah, I got that on a bunch of machines. Just updated my sendmail.mc to move the FEATURE macros up

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-25 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting Michal Jaegermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 10:24:12AM -0500, David Eisner wrote: Eric Rostetter wrote: >This sounds like what happens when we rush the QA processes... Other distros had advance warning about this vulnerability, and hence more time to apply patches an

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-25 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting David Eisner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Eric Rostetter wrote: This sounds like what happens when we rush the QA processes... Other distros had advance warning about this vulnerability, So did FL technically. and hence more time to apply patches and do testing. They didn't have more ti

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-25 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting Michael Kratz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Can you tell what was different between the old .cf and the new one? The new cf appeared to be a 'fresh' default config file. i.e. only bound to localhost, all my amavis and rbl stuff was missing, etc. I don't doubt this. I just wanted to make sur

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-25 Thread Michael Mansour
Hi Eric, > Quoting Michal Jaegermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I am not sure in which distro /usr/sbin/alternatives showed up > > for the first time. > > It first showed up in RHL 7.3 as far as RHL goes. It originated in > debian though... > > >> *** ERROR: FEATURE() should be before MAILER()

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-25 Thread Jesse Keating
On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 10:24 -0500, David Eisner wrote: > > Other distros had advance warning about this vulnerability, and hence > more time to apply patches and do testing. Is there a way Fedora Legacy > could be added to the list of vendors that are notified in this type of > situation? > >

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 25 March 2006 11:45, Gene Heskett wrote: >On Saturday 25 March 2006 11:29, Michal Jaegermann wrote: >>On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 11:39:33AM +0100, Danny Terweij - Net Tuning >> | > >Net wrote: >>> My sendmail on FC3 boxes also not working correctly. >> >>Interesting. I actually did instal

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 25 March 2006 11:29, Michal Jaegermann wrote: >On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 11:39:33AM +0100, Danny Terweij - Net Tuning | Net wrote: >> My sendmail on FC3 boxes also not working correctly. > >Interesting. I actually did install an update on an FC3 box and >it did not need any corrections

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-25 Thread Michal Jaegermann
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 11:39:33AM +0100, Danny Terweij - Net Tuning | Net wrote: > > My sendmail on FC3 boxes also not working correctly. Interesting. I actually did install an update on an FC3 box and it did not need any corrections after that. > mailq was set as mailq.sendmail. > newaliases

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-25 Thread Michal Jaegermann
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 10:24:12AM -0500, David Eisner wrote: > Eric Rostetter wrote: > >This sounds like what happens when we rush the QA processes... > > Other distros had advance warning about this vulnerability, and hence > more time to apply patches and do testing. Personally I _hugely_ pre

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-25 Thread David Eisner
Eric Rostetter wrote: This sounds like what happens when we rush the QA processes... Other distros had advance warning about this vulnerability, and hence more time to apply patches and do testing. Is there a way Fedora Legacy could be added to the list of vendors that are notified in this t

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-25 Thread Danny Terweij - Net Tuning | Net
From: "Michael Kratz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> overwrote my sendmail.cf file and didn't create a .rpmnew or .rpmsave! My sendmail on FC3 boxes also not working correctly. mailq was set as mailq.sendmail. newaliases was set as newaliases.sendmail And maybe more is very wrong with this package

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-24 Thread Michael Kratz
Eric Rostetter wrote: Quoting Michael Kratz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I just (yum) updated sendmail on a Redhat 7.3 box, and the RPM overwrote my sendmail.cf file and didn't create a .rpmnew or .rpmsave! Lucky I still had my custom .mc file and it didn't overwrite that. Can you tell what was diff

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-24 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting Michael Kratz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I just (yum) updated sendmail on a Redhat 7.3 box, and the RPM overwrote my sendmail.cf file and didn't create a .rpmnew or .rpmsave! Lucky I still had my custom .mc file and it didn't overwrite that. Can you tell what was different between the old .

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-24 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting Michal Jaegermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I am not sure in which distro /usr/sbin/alternatives showed up for the first time. It first showed up in RHL 7.3 as far as RHL goes. It originated in debian though... *** ERROR: FEATURE() should be before MAILER() *** ERROR: FEATURE() should be

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-24 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting Jesse Keating <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I had verified votes for all the platforms. True. I also had LOTS of people asking when a release would come out, again and again. Should not be relevent, especially if there is one in updates-testing. Unfortunately sendmail is one of those real

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-24 Thread Jesse Keating
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 22:09 -0600, Eric Rostetter wrote: > > This sounds like what happens when we rush the QA processes... > > I've stopped trying to do QA because by the time I download the testing > version, install it, and start testing it, and well before I can submit > a report, the package

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-24 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting Jesse Keating <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 16:17 -0600, Mike Klinke wrote: There is instead an entry in /usr/lib; "sendmail.sendmail" which is linked to /usr/sbin/sendmail. Also the man pages no longer work if you type; "man sendmail" You have to use "man sendmail.send

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-24 Thread Michael Kratz
Jesse Keating wrote: This sounds like the Alternatives system got confused and wasn't making the links that it was supposed to, as stated in the spec file. Hrm. FYI: I just (yum) updated sendmail on a Redhat 7.3 box, and the RPM overwrote my sendmail.cf file and didn't create a .rpmnew or

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-24 Thread Mike Klinke
On Friday 24 March 2006 16:41, Jesse Keating wrote: > > This sounds like the Alternatives system got confused and wasn't > making the links that it was supposed to, as stated in the spec > file. Hrm. I see three missing links on RH9 and FC1; /usr/lib/sendmail /usr/share/man/man8/sendmail.8.gz

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-24 Thread Mike Klinke
On Friday 24 March 2006 16:48, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > > /usr/sbin/alternatives was supposed to take care of that. If you > will do 'rpm -q --scripts sendmail' then you should see, among > other things, something of that sort: > > /usr/sbin/alternatives --install /usr/sbin/sendmail mta \ >

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-24 Thread Michal Jaegermann
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 08:21:15AM +1000, Michael Mansour wrote: > > On Friday 24 March 2006 12:54, David Eisner wrote: > > > > There is instead an entry in /usr/lib; "sendmail.sendmail" which > > is linked to /usr/sbin/sendmail. Also the man pages no longer work > > if you type; "man sendmai

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-24 Thread Jim Popovitch
Mike Klinke wrote: On Friday 24 March 2006 12:54, David Eisner wrote: Just a heads up: after installing the sendmail-8.12.11-4.24.1.legacy package on a RH9 machine today, I noticed /usr/lib/sendmail was gone. This will break anything that's expecting it to be there. In my case, symlinking /us

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-24 Thread Jesse Keating
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 16:17 -0600, Mike Klinke wrote: > There is instead an entry in /usr/lib; "sendmail.sendmail" which > is linked to /usr/sbin/sendmail. Also the man pages no longer work > if you type; "man sendmail" You have to use "man > sendmail.sendmail". This sounds like the Alterna

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-24 Thread Michael Mansour
Hi, > On Friday 24 March 2006 12:54, David Eisner wrote: > > > Just a heads up: after installing the > > sendmail-8.12.11-4.24.1.legacy package on a RH9 machine today, I > > noticed /usr/lib/sendmail was gone. This will break anything > > that's expecting it to be there. > > > > In my case, symli

Re: New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-24 Thread Mike Klinke
On Friday 24 March 2006 12:54, David Eisner wrote: > Just a heads up: after installing the > sendmail-8.12.11-4.24.1.legacy package on a RH9 machine today, I > noticed /usr/lib/sendmail was gone. This will break anything > that's expecting it to be there. > > In my case, symlinking /usr/lib/sendm

New sendmail and missing /usr/lib/sendmail

2006-03-24 Thread David Eisner
Just a heads up: after installing the sendmail-8.12.11-4.24.1.legacy package on a RH9 machine today, I noticed /usr/lib/sendmail was gone. This will break anything that's expecting it to be there. In my case, symlinking /usr/lib/sendmail --> /usr/sbin/sendmail fixed the problem. -David Marc