Re: Newbie Warnng! : Fedora Core Offline Updates
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:49:09 -0700, stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I haven't used rsync and perhaps it does this automatically, but you can > also use wget with a list of packages that you have installed, set to > only update files that have changed. Point it to a specific mirror that > you know is fast and run it every night. You could then burn the > resulting changes to a DVD and use sneaker net to put it into the yum > cache on the machine you are running in isolated mode. Then you would > just run yum update as normal and the updates would occur. That isn't going to work very well. Without the repo metadata yum isn't going to work and when some new dependencies are introduced your rpm upgrades are going to fail. It's really going to be easier to just get a copy of the whole repositories for the architectures you need. The everything repository doesn't change so you only need to get that one once. -- fedora-list mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Newbie Warnng! : Fedora Core Offline Updates
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 13:57 +0800, Robert Bernabe wrote: > sorry..i changed the subject and I thought that would be enough to > change the thread...didn't know an entirely new email had to be > done...will resend...sorry..really didn't know that the thread would be > picked up even when the subject is changed... > > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 12:10 +0800, Robert Bernabe wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> Many thanks in advance. We are investigating Fedora Core right now > >> and one of the concerns is that the FC system will not be connected (or > >> allowed to connect to the internet). All updates will have to be done > >> offline. Is there a central place to check for updates to download for > >> offline installation? Is there a compiled tar file for this anywhere? > >> We are trying to google right now and just thought to ask...if the > >> answer here is RTFM then I'm sorry. > >> > > > > Rule 1 about asking questions on Internet mailing lists: > > > > Do Not Hijack Threads! > > > > You simply replied to some random message that has nothing to do with > > your topic, instead of starting a new message on your chosen subject. > > You'll get a lot more cooperation if you understand that this annoys a > > lot of people a great deal. > > > > Thank you for your cooperation. And, for the love of the Almighty, don't top post either. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar https://oar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 336-254-1339 - -- fedora-list mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Newbie Warnng! : Fedora Core Offline Updates
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:49 AM, stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You could just set up two identical machines, one on the internet, one off. > Set up yum to cache the packages on the machine connected to the internet. > Use the cache to burn a DVD. The packages are all signed with a redhat key > that would be verified on the offline machine, so you could be sure of > getting unadulterated packages. The online machine would just be a dummy > for getting the packages. Turn off all services and set up the firewall to > be very restrictive. No local data, just the bare installation with all the > packages of the offline machine. To be even more paranoid, only boot and > check for updates, then shut it down, so you are only on the net for the > duration of the package downloads and update. > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > What about this: When you setup Fedora tell it that the public interface does not come up automatically. os as root then: ifup eth0 (optionally start firewall) yum update (optionally stop firewall) ifdown eth0 and plug the machine in to the net, but dont activate the network adapter at all till you need it. -- fedora-list mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Newbie Warnng! : Fedora Core Offline Updates
* Robert Bernabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20080716 07:58]: Hi all, Many thanks in advance. We are investigating Fedora Core right now and one of the concerns is that the FC system will not be connected (or allowed to connect to the internet). All updates will have to be done offline. Is there a central place to check for updates to download for offline installation? Is there a compiled tar file for this anywhere? We are trying to google right now and just thought to ask...if the answer here is RTFM then I'm sorry. You may be able to rsync just the part of the repos you need, and then keep a local copy of that. Here's two URL's I found (not read them in-depth) that seems relevant to what you want to do. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring/Tiering http://www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb/General/yum_article/yum_article/node15.html It's a start, and should give you an idea at least. thanks... -- fedora-list mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Newbie Warnng! : Fedora Core Offline Updates
I haven't used rsync and perhaps it does this automatically, but you can also use wget with a list of packages that you have installed, set to only update files that have changed. Point it to a specific mirror that you know is fast and run it every night. You could then burn the resulting changes to a DVD and use sneaker net to put it into the yum cache on the machine you are running in isolated mode. Then you would just run yum update as normal and the updates would occur. I don't think that the Fedora inrastructure is really set up for this sort of no internet updating. The changes are pushed out to the mirrors over the internet, and the individual installations look over the internet to pull the updates they want. So no matter what workaround you use, it is going to require internet access for some machine. You could just set up two identical machines, one on the internet, one off. Set up yum to cache the packages on the machine connected to the internet. Use the cache to burn a DVD. The packages are all signed with a redhat key that would be verified on the offline machine, so you could be sure of getting unadulterated packages. The online machine would just be a dummy for getting the packages. Turn off all services and set up the firewall to be very restrictive. No local data, just the bare installation with all the packages of the offline machine. To be even more paranoid, only boot and check for updates, then shut it down, so you are only on the net for the duration of the package downloads and update. thanks... -- fedora-list mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Newbie Warnng! : Fedora Core Offline Updates
Robert Bernabe wrote: Hi all, Many thanks in advance. We are investigating Fedora Core right now and one of the concerns is that the FC system will not be connected (or allowed to connect to the internet). All updates will have to be done offline. Is there a central place to check for updates to download for offline installation? Is there a compiled tar file for this anywhere? We are trying to google right now and just thought to ask...if the answer here is RTFM then I'm sorry. I haven't used rsync and perhaps it does this automatically, but you can also use wget with a list of packages that you have installed, set to only update files that have changed. Point it to a specific mirror that you know is fast and run it every night. You could then burn the resulting changes to a DVD and use sneaker net to put it into the yum cache on the machine you are running in isolated mode. Then you would just run yum update as normal and the updates would occur. I don't think that the Fedora inrastructure is really set up for this sort of no internet updating. The changes are pushed out to the mirrors over the internet, and the individual installations look over the internet to pull the updates they want. So no matter what workaround you use, it is going to require internet access for some machine. You could just set up two identical machines, one on the internet, one off. Set up yum to cache the packages on the machine connected to the internet. Use the cache to burn a DVD. The packages are all signed with a redhat key that would be verified on the offline machine, so you could be sure of getting unadulterated packages. The online machine would just be a dummy for getting the packages. Turn off all services and set up the firewall to be very restrictive. No local data, just the bare installation with all the packages of the offline machine. To be even more paranoid, only boot and check for updates, then shut it down, so you are only on the net for the duration of the package downloads and update. -- fedora-list mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Newbie Warnng! : Fedora Core Offline Updates
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 13:57 +0800, Robert Bernabe wrote: > sorry..i changed the subject and I thought that would be enough to > change the thread...didn't know an entirely new email had to be > done...will resend...sorry..really didn't know that the thread would be > picked up even when the subject is changed... Threads have nothing to do with the Subject. They are based on the In-Reply-To header which references the Message-ID of the message being replied to. Some broken mailers (*cough*Outlook*cough*) use the Subject for threading, but most of us aren't using them to read these lists. BTW, Rule 2 (at least on this list and many others) is: Do Not Top Post! i.e. put your reply *after* the text you are replying to (see above). poc -- fedora-list mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Newbie Warnng! : Fedora Core Offline Updates
* Robert Bernabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20080716 07:58]: > Hi all, > Many thanks in advance. We are investigating Fedora Core right now > and one of the concerns is that the FC system will not be connected (or > allowed to connect to the internet). All updates will have to be done > offline. Is there a central place to check for updates to download for > offline installation? Is there a compiled tar file for this anywhere? > We are trying to google right now and just thought to ask...if the > answer here is RTFM then I'm sorry. You may be able to rsync just the part of the repos you need, and then keep a local copy of that. Here's two URL's I found (not read them in-depth) that seems relevant to what you want to do. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring/Tiering http://www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb/General/yum_article/yum_article/node15.html It's a start, and should give you an idea at least. -- Anders Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> All-Round Linux Tinkerer & RHCE -- fedora-list mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Newbie Warnng! : Fedora Core Offline Updates
sorry..i changed the subject and I thought that would be enough to change the thread...didn't know an entirely new email had to be done...will resend...sorry..really didn't know that the thread would be picked up even when the subject is changed... Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 12:10 +0800, Robert Bernabe wrote: Hi all, Many thanks in advance. We are investigating Fedora Core right now and one of the concerns is that the FC system will not be connected (or allowed to connect to the internet). All updates will have to be done offline. Is there a central place to check for updates to download for offline installation? Is there a compiled tar file for this anywhere? We are trying to google right now and just thought to ask...if the answer here is RTFM then I'm sorry. Rule 1 about asking questions on Internet mailing lists: Do Not Hijack Threads! You simply replied to some random message that has nothing to do with your topic, instead of starting a new message on your chosen subject. You'll get a lot more cooperation if you understand that this annoys a lot of people a great deal. Thank you for your cooperation. poc -- fedora-list mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Newbie Warnng! : Fedora Core Offline Updates
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 12:10 +0800, Robert Bernabe wrote: > Hi all, > Many thanks in advance. We are investigating Fedora Core right now > and one of the concerns is that the FC system will not be connected (or > allowed to connect to the internet). All updates will have to be done > offline. Is there a central place to check for updates to download for > offline installation? Is there a compiled tar file for this anywhere? > We are trying to google right now and just thought to ask...if the > answer here is RTFM then I'm sorry. Rule 1 about asking questions on Internet mailing lists: Do Not Hijack Threads! You simply replied to some random message that has nothing to do with your topic, instead of starting a new message on your chosen subject. You'll get a lot more cooperation if you understand that this annoys a lot of people a great deal. Thank you for your cooperation. poc -- fedora-list mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
