Re: yum update question

2010-01-03 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 04 January 2010 05:50:54 Paul Allen Newell wrote:
> While doing a "yum update" after an install from DVD, I noticed that I
> got the following message (this is a "write it down and then retype into
> computer that has mail" so I might have a typo:
> 
> [...]
> Installing: kernal-PAE-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686
>  W:  Possible missing firmware ql8100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.lo
>  W:  Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq_fw.bin for module aic94xx.lo
> [...]

Did you also get the message like:

Processing delta metadata
/boot/initramfs-2.6.31.5-127.fc12.x86_64.img: contents have been changed
delta does not match installed data

or similar, somewhere in the early stages of the update process (before the 
actual installing of .rpm's)?

If yes, then you have probably hit this bug:

  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=544901

In short, those warnings are harmless and you are pretty safe to ignore them.

HTH, :-)
Marko


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Re: yum update question

2010-01-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell

Marko Vojinovic wrote:

On Monday 04 January 2010 05:50:54 Paul Allen Newell wrote:
  

While doing a "yum update" after an install from DVD, I noticed that I
got the following message (this is a "write it down and then retype into
computer that has mail" so I might have a typo:

[...]
Installing: kernal-PAE-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686
 W:  Possible missing firmware ql8100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.lo
 W:  Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq_fw.bin for module aic94xx.lo
[...]



Did you also get the message like:

Processing delta metadata
/boot/initramfs-2.6.31.5-127.fc12.x86_64.img: contents have been changed
delta does not match installed data

or similar, somewhere in the early stages of the update process (before the 
actual installing of .rpm's)?


If yes, then you have probably hit this bug:

  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=544901

In short, those warnings are harmless and you are pretty safe to ignore them.

HTH, :-)
Marko

  

Marko:

Let me check the log tomorrow ... your "delta doesn't match" sounds 
familiar and, if such is the case, I will attach myself to the bugzilla 
you provided


Thanks,
Paul

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Re: yum update question

2010-01-04 Thread s

On 01/03/2010 11:50 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
While doing a "yum update" after an install from DVD, I noticed that I 
got the following message (this is a "write it down and then retype 
into computer that has mail" so I might have a typo:


[...]
Installing: kernal-PAE-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686
W: Possible missing firmware ql8100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.lo
W: Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq_fw.bin for module aic94xx.lo
[...]

The machine is old and I am prepared to understand that it might be 
getting "too old". But I can't figure out how I am decipher this 
message into something which lets me understand what f12 thinks is 
missing in my firmware. I checked my f11 install logs on another 
machine and do not see these warnings.


IMHO, it would be nice if yum told me where to look to understand 
these messages, but MHO might be ignorant of something obvious, so I 
can't complain until I understand this warning.


Thanks in advance,
Paul



See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523365

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Re: yum update question

2010-01-04 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 04 January 2010 08:15:13 Paul Allen Newell wrote:
> Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > On Monday 04 January 2010 05:50:54 Paul Allen Newell wrote:
> >> [...]
> >> Installing: kernal-PAE-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686
> >>  W:  Possible missing firmware ql8100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.lo
> >>  W:  Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq_fw.bin for module aic94xx.lo
> >> [...]
> >
> > Did you also get the message like:
> >
> > Processing delta metadata
> > /boot/initramfs-2.6.31.5-127.fc12.x86_64.img: contents have been changed
> > delta does not match installed data
> 
> Let me check the log tomorrow ... your "delta doesn't match" sounds
> familiar and, if such is the case, I will attach myself to the bugzilla
> you provided

I am not sure where is this message logged, but definitely not in yum.log, as I 
 
didn't find it there later on when I looked up again. I also don't know where 
those kernel warnings were logged, if at all... :-)

But anyway, there is no need to attach yourself to that bugzilla, just read it 
to understand what is happening. There is a particular link to the 
codemonkeys.org website with more clearer explanation. In a nutshell, it's 
just deltarpm and kernel rpm confusing each other about how big the 
initramfs.img file should be. And it just so happens that those firmware 
modules 
happen to reside in that file, so during the kernel installation you get the 
warning that they might get missing. But this never happens, because the 
kernel has those modules already, and just needs to recreate the initramfs, 
which happens automatically.

So nothing to worry about. ;-)

Best, :-)
Marko


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Re: yum update question

2010-01-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell

Marko Vojinovic wrote:

On Monday 04 January 2010 08:15:13 Paul Allen Newell wrote:
  

Marko Vojinovic wrote:


On Monday 04 January 2010 05:50:54 Paul Allen Newell wrote:
  

[...]
Installing: kernal-PAE-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686
 W:  Possible missing firmware ql8100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.lo
 W:  Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq_fw.bin for module aic94xx.lo
[...]


Did you also get the message like:

Processing delta metadata
/boot/initramfs-2.6.31.5-127.fc12.x86_64.img: contents have been changed
delta does not match installed data
  

Let me check the log tomorrow ... your "delta doesn't match" sounds
familiar and, if such is the case, I will attach myself to the bugzilla
you provided



I am not sure where is this message logged, but definitely not in yum.log, as I  
didn't find it there later on when I looked up again. I also don't know where 
those kernel warnings were logged, if at all... :-)


But anyway, there is no need to attach yourself to that bugzilla, just read it 
to understand what is happening. There is a particular link to the 
codemonkeys.org website with more clearer explanation. In a nutshell, it's 
just deltarpm and kernel rpm confusing each other about how big the 
initramfs.img file should be. And it just so happens that those firmware modules 
happen to reside in that file, so during the kernel installation you get the 
warning that they might get missing. But this never happens, because the 
kernel has those modules already, and just needs to recreate the initramfs, 
which happens automatically.


So nothing to worry about. ;-)

Best, :-)
Marko


  

Marko:

I capture and save a cut-and-paste of screen output of most yum updates 
I do, so I checked and the "delta" message is there. Appreciate the 
additional message ... as I was reading through it I remember having 
seen a prior post on such. Not certain why it didn't click at the time, 
maybe it was because I remember something about "don't need to worry" 
and therefore it didn't stick.


As you suggest, I will blaze ahead and not worry (though I will attach 
myself to the bug #544901 so I am aware when it is resolved)


Thanks again,
Paul

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Re: yum update question

2010-01-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell

s wrote:

On 01/03/2010 11:50 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
While doing a "yum update" after an install from DVD, I noticed that 
I got the following message (this is a "write it down and then retype 
into computer that has mail" so I might have a typo:


[...]
Installing: kernal-PAE-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686
W: Possible missing firmware ql8100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.lo
W: Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq_fw.bin for module aic94xx.lo
[...]

The machine is old and I am prepared to understand that it might be 
getting "too old". But I can't figure out how I am decipher this 
message into something which lets me understand what f12 thinks is 
missing in my firmware. I checked my f11 install logs on another 
machine and do not see these warnings.


IMHO, it would be nice if yum told me where to look to understand 
these messages, but MHO might be ignorant of something obvious, so I 
can't complain until I understand this warning.


Thanks in advance,
Paul



See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523365


"s":

Oh yeah, that is definitely it ... thanks for the bug id #

Paul

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