Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-16 Thread Robert 'Bob' Jensen
On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 23:14 -0800, Karsten Wade wrote: On Sun, 2005-11-06 at 20:41 -0800, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Problem is the symbol does not really attract anyone. We have seen the reactions on fedoraforum.org. I even show it to my family and friend, overall they didn't like it.

Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-15 Thread Karsten Wade
On Sun, 2005-11-06 at 20:41 -0800, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Problem is the symbol does not really attract anyone. We have seen the reactions on fedoraforum.org. I even show it to my family and friend, overall they didn't like it. I've been catching up on the discussions from last week on this

Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-08 Thread nodata
Hello, I read about the new logo on Fedora People. Might as well throw in my opinion :) It's too clever. The first time I saw the proposed logo I thought to myself Why on earth is there a Möbius strip in the logo?. I don't want to have to understand a logo. What about a logo that can be good

Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
nodata wrote: Hello, I read about the new logo on Fedora People. Might as well throw in my opinion :) It's too clever. The first time I saw the proposed logo I thought to myself Why on earth is there a Möbius strip in the logo?. I don't want to have to understand a logo. Logos

Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-08 Thread Nicu Buculei
nodata wrote: Mod01, mod02, mod03 are all improvements because they try to hide the difficult-to-explain part of the logo. I disagree: why have a logo in the first place if you try to hide it? The logo should stand on its own and be recognizable even without the 'fedora' word - this is what

Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-08 Thread nodata
nodata wrote: Hello, I read about the new logo on Fedora People. Might as well throw in my opinion :) It's too clever. The first time I saw the proposed logo I thought to myself Why on earth is there a Möbius strip in the logo?. I don't want to have to understand a logo. Logos dont

Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi But not understanding a logo is distracting and annoying. Is that good? Is it really?. Examples have been given before. What your understanding of the Nike logo?. Is that somehow immediately visible to anyone who sees it?. Fedora represents many things to many different people. Its my

Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-08 Thread nodata
Hi But not understanding a logo is distracting and annoying. Is that good? Is it really?. Examples have been given before. What your understanding of the Nike logo?. Is that somehow immediately visible to anyone who sees it?. Fedora represents many things to many different people. Its my

Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi I look at the Nike logo and see a tick. That's all the thought I gave to it. I looked at the proposed Fedora logo, and saw a Möbius strip, with white and light blue, then wondered why it had two colours, then saw the f, then wondered why the rest of the strip was light blue, then wondered

Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-08 Thread nodata
Hi I look at the Nike logo and see a tick. That's all the thought I gave to it. I looked at the proposed Fedora logo, and saw a Möbius strip, with white and light blue, then wondered why it had two colours, then saw the f, then wondered why the rest of the strip was light blue, then wondered

Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi Err- thanks for that, but the point of my e-mail wasn't to get it explained, It wasnt a explanation of the logo but the colors associated with the project. it was to show the questions others might ask themselves when seeing the logo. A loop with an f in it? If thats the impression

Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-08 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On 11/8/05, nodata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But not understanding a logo is distracting and annoying. Is that good? I'm not distracted... nor am I annoyed... perhaps the fault lies inward and not with the logo. If you choose to go back and read up on the initial discussion when this draft was

Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-08 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
I made a quick sckethy modification of the draft with a stylist f and a subtle infinity symbol. http://finalzone.webmasterswebworkshop.com/Fedora/fedora_logo_draft_scketchy.png I didn't intend to make if perfect but that is a suggested idea. Luya --

Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-08 Thread Joshua Wulf
This level of discussion is not moving things foward. If you have different modifications to present.. do like dfong did..create a set of modifications to the draft and present them. Jef, it's not my intention to derail the process, so please don't misread me. I respect the work that you

Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Tejas Dinkar wrote: Hmmm, for many people, including myself, feather == Apache, even if the color of the feather is different, as may be the angle. Tejas I havent heard much about the different

Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-07 Thread Joshua Wulf
how about instead we just keep dragging this process out..with more and more ideas... every month..a new logo idea. Are there some links to the other logo ideas? I've seen Diane's and the donkey (I think that was gdk's child), and the capstrat one. That makes three. --

Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Joshua Wulf wrote: how about instead we just keep dragging this process out..with more and more ideas... every month..a new logo idea. Are there some links to the other logo ideas? I've seen Diane's and the donkey (I think that was gdk's child), and the capstrat one. That makes three.

Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-07 Thread Nicu Buculei
Joshua Wulf wrote: how about instead we just keep dragging this process out..with more and more ideas... every month..a new logo idea. Are there some links to the other logo ideas? I've seen Diane's and the donkey (I think that was gdk's child), and the capstrat one. That makes three.

Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-07 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On 11/7/05, Joshua Wulf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how about instead we just keep dragging this process out..with more and more ideas... every month..a new logo idea. Are there some links to the other logo ideas? I've seen Diane's and the donkey (I think that was gdk's child), and the

Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-07 Thread Joshua Wulf
Thanks for the links Rahul and Jeff. --josh Jeff Spaleta wrote: On 11/7/05, Joshua Wulf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how about instead we just keep dragging this process out..with more and more ideas... every month..a new logo idea. Are there some links to the other logo ideas? I've

Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-07 Thread Joshua Wulf
F is freedom is a cool idea. Here are my thoughts about the current proposal: It's too clever. Infinite freedom is a clever concept, which requires some explanation. (Why doesn't it let me play my mp3s and DVDs - where's the freedom to do what I want?) The idea of combining the f for

Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-07 Thread Joshua Wulf
Nicu Buculei wrote: Joshua Wulf wrote: how about instead we just keep dragging this process out..with more and more ideas... every month..a new logo idea. Are there some links to the other logo ideas? I've seen Diane's and the donkey (I think that was gdk's child), and the capstrat one.

Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-07 Thread Joshua Wulf
Jeff Spaleta wrote: If you are serious about this idea, what we need are 3 drafts for 3 different designs which all attempt to express the same idea. Heh. Let's do it. Let's get some variations on the theme. --josh -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com

Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-07 Thread Joshua Wulf
My main concern with the present design is the confusion caused in the cortex by the superimposition of the f and the infinity sign. Having the two elements there in that way causes neither of them to be striking and the brain to prevaricate between the two. It makes the effect weak. The

Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-06 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi Here is a set of modifications of the first proposal and a new one by Diana Fong http://www.isity.net/appeal/ Courtesy: http://fedoraproject.org/people regards Rahul -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com

Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-06 Thread Jesse Keating
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 06:44 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi Here is a set of modifications of the first proposal and a new one by Diana Fong http://www.isity.net/appeal/ I like some of the alterations. The Feather though, Feather Linux uses almost that exact same feather as the

Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-06 Thread Jesse Keating
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 07:25 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Never heard of Feather Linux before but if you are talking about this one http://featherlinux.berlios.de/ , they dont seem to be using a feather but a variation of tux. Look to the right of Tux (: -- Jesse Keating RHCE

Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-06 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Jesse Keating wrote: On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 07:25 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Never heard of Feather Linux before but if you are talking about this one http://featherlinux.berlios.de/ , they dont seem to be using a feather but a variation of tux. Look to the right of Tux (:

Re: Fedora Logo: Modifications and a new one

2005-11-06 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On 11/6/05, Rahul Sundaram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats barely visible. While we have to avoid confusion with other projects, we cant choose to use any elements at all if we are going to nit pick at this level. how about instead we just keep dragging this process out..with more and more