Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-04-04 Thread Jan Pazdziora
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 06:38:02AM +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote: Would this one be the same for the development (soon to be 9) version? http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/development/i386/os/repodata/ Yes, this is the development branch, aka rawhide, which will be made into Fedora

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-04-03 Thread Gabor Szabo
Hi, about a month ago I wrote that I would like to improve the reporting on http://www.szabgab.com/distributions/ by including recent releases of Fedora. (and Red Hat as well) I asked on this list how can I get the list of all the packages included in Fedora N? Ralf has pointed me to some page:

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-04-03 Thread Jan Pazdziora
On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 10:46:35PM +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote: Now I am here in Oslo, the QA Hackathon where I would like to work on this is going to start tomorrow evening so I started to look at this. The above page only gives me a list of perl package names. There is no version number of

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-04-03 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Jan Pazdziora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 10:46:35PM +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote: Now I am here in Oslo, the QA Hackathon where I would like to work on this is going to start tomorrow evening so I started to look at this. The above

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-03-12 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 11 Mar 2008 14:18:07 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DC == Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DC I've always had a sneaking suspicion that what I've got are good DC enough for me, but not for Fedora's repositories. Well, modern cpanspec generates pretty good

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-03-12 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 20:55 +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote: So if you do find a module with problematic licenses it would be great if you could check if CPANTS http://cpants.perl.org/ has also caught that issue. To be brutally honest, Artistic 1.0 is a problematic license. It's been poorly

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-03-12 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
GS == Gabor Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GS So if you do find a module with problematic licenses it would be GS great if you could check if CPANTS http://cpants.perl.org/ has GS also caught that issue. This is good news; Perl modules have often been a source of licensing trouble due to

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-03-12 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 12 Mar 2008 14:08:36 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GS == Gabor Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GS So if you do find a module with problematic licenses it would be GS great if you could check if CPANTS http://cpants.perl.org/ has GS also caught that issue. This

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-03-12 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 09:26:41PM +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote: What others would you include in that list? The full list is on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing#head-19fc3ef10add085a28cb06784dc34ef8b05a9bd6 -- Pat -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-03-12 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
GS == Gabor Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GS What others would you include in that list? The current set of approved licenses should be at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing (which isn't responding for me at the moment, so I can't cut'n'paste for you). - J -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-03-11 Thread Dave Cross
Ralf Corsepius wrote: On Sat, 2008-03-08 at 07:34 +, Dave Cross wrote: I also have this problem. Not many days go by without me needing a CPAN module that isn't pre-packaged into an RPM. In those cases I often find that cpanspec works to whip up a quick RPM that that I can use. I don't

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-03-11 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
DC == Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DC I've always had a sneaking suspicion that what I've got are good DC enough for me, but not for Fedora's repositories. Well, modern cpanspec generates pretty good specs. Generally what you need to do is verify the license (which unfortunately seems

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-03-11 Thread Chris Weyl
On 11 Mar 2008 14:18:07 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DC == Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DC I've always had a sneaking suspicion that what I've got are good DC enough for me, but not for Fedora's repositories. Well, modern cpanspec generates pretty good

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-03-10 Thread Steven Pritchard
On Sat, Mar 08, 2008 at 07:34:27AM +, Dave Cross wrote: In those cases I often find that cpanspec works to whip up a quick RPM that that I can use. I don't know how many of those automatically generated RPMs would reach the standards required for inclusion in Fedora, but I'm slowly

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-03-10 Thread Dave Cross
Steven Pritchard wrote: On Sat, Mar 08, 2008 at 07:34:27AM +, Dave Cross wrote: http://rpm.mag-sol.com/ I just took a quick look at that, and I noticed that a *bunch* of those modules are already available in Fedora... Yep. I noticed that over the weekend as well. They were created

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-03-10 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven Pritchard wrote: On Sat, Mar 08, 2008 at 07:34:27AM +, Dave Cross wrote: http://rpm.mag-sol.com/ I just took a quick look at that, and I noticed that a *bunch* of those modules are already

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-03-07 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 09:37 +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote: Hi, I see on http://perl-qa.hexten.net/wiki/index.php/OsloQAWorkshop2008 that probably non of you is going to participate. That's a pity. Anyway I am trying to setup some documentation/system that might help all the distros to include

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-03-07 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Ralf Corsepius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 09:37 +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote: Hi, I see on http://perl-qa.hexten.net/wiki/index.php/OsloQAWorkshop2008 that probably non of you is going to participate. That's a pity. Anyway I am

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-03-07 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 10:38 +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote: On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Ralf Corsepius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 09:37 +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote: Hi, I see on http://perl-qa.hexten.net/wiki/index.php/OsloQAWorkshop2008 that probably non of

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-03-07 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Ralf Corsepius [07/03/2008 10:53] : To put it bluntly: Perl-dists in Fedora are more or less community-only maintained, i.e. inclusion of perl-dists in Fedora is more or less community demand-driven = There is little demand for these remaining 12000 packages, probably because hardly anybody

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-03-07 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 11:16:14AM +0100, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: * Ralf Corsepius [07/03/2008 10:53] : To put it bluntly: Perl-dists in Fedora are more or less community-only maintained, i.e. inclusion of perl-dists in Fedora is more or less community demand-driven = There is little

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-03-07 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Ralf Corsepius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 10:38 +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote: On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Ralf Corsepius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 09:37 +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote: Hi, I see

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-03-07 Thread Dave Cross
Emmanuel Seyman wrote: search.cpan.org always calls a module's licence as Unknown no matter how clearly the licence is in the source code itself. That's no longer true. See, for example: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Symbol-Approx-Sub/ Which includes Perl (Artistic and GPL). I'm pretty

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-03-07 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 17:19 +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote: On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Ralf Corsepius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 10:38 +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote: On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Ralf Corsepius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2008-03-07

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-03-07 Thread Dave Cross
Ralf Corsepius wrote: On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 17:19 +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote: IMHO there is very little communication between the distro communities and the Perl community. Some Debian people have started a dialog on the last YAPC in Vienna and I wish we can increase that even further. The QA

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-03-07 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Ralf Corsepius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 17:19 +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote: On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Ralf Corsepius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 10:38 +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote: On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at

Re: Packaging CPAN modules for Fedora, the Oslo QA Hackathon, CPAN::Porters

2008-03-07 Thread Dave Cross
Gabor Szabo wrote: Lately I have also arrived to the conclusion that if you are not interested in bleeding edge Perl development then you should use only the modules supplied by your OS or Perl vendor. For that having only 1000 modules is way too low. A couple of years ago I reached the same