Re: [Felix-language] tutorial orientation

2007-04-26 Thread skaller
On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 17:51 -0400, Chris King wrote: > Now I don't know enough about C++ to judge how much of the template > system's functionality the typical C++ programmer uses, but I'd guess > most programmers use it for nothing more than polymorphic type safety > and could transition to Felix

Re: [Felix-language] tutorial orientation

2007-04-26 Thread Chris King
On 4/26/07, skaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just try to tell one of the people that like 'meta-programming' > that it is a load of rubbish and that templates are one of > the things Felix deliberately replaces (with parametric > polymorphism and typeclasses) .. well of course I'm going > to ge

Re: [Felix-language] tutorial orientation

2007-04-26 Thread skaller
On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 09:47 -0700, James Dennett wrote: > On 4/26/07, skaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've found an issue being that each time you (John) come to > illustrate how to use Felix to do something real, it involves > seemingly magical bindings to C or C++. If those are explained

Re: [Felix-language] tutorial orientation

2007-04-26 Thread skaller
On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 09:47 -0700, James Dennett wrote: > > All potentially interesting, but what it needs, IMO, is detailed > examples that motivate why a C++ user would want to read on, > and explanations of why Felix has chosen the approaches it > has. This is hard for me! My personal motiv

Re: [Felix-language] tutorial orientation

2007-04-26 Thread James Dennett
On 4/26/07, skaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Given an intended market of C++ programmers, is Felix being taught in the wrong order? For that audience (and I'll hold myself up as an example), probably. The actual presentation is more suited to people coming from something like Ocaml, IMO.

Re: [Felix-language] tutorial orientation

2007-04-26 Thread skaller
On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 11:24 -0400, Chris King wrote: > On 4/26/07, skaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Given an intended market of C++ programmers, > > I don't really see Felix's target being "C++ programmers" per se, but > more so "people who would really rather program in some other language

Re: [Felix-language] tutorial orientation

2007-04-26 Thread Chris King
On 4/26/07, skaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Given an intended market of C++ programmers, I don't really see Felix's target being "C++ programmers" per se, but more so "people who would really rather program in some other language but need the speed / libraries / etc. that C++ offers". At lea